Guild Wars 2

I rarely… I never buy/use foods I genuinely don’t see the point behind them. Then again I always play with randoms and don’t see the point in spending 2 – 3G on food just to have the chance of some of it going to waste.

Last night I was playing with a group of people though and they got terribly upset that I wasn’t using any food going so far as saying leave the dungeon and get some. I ended up getting squash butternut or something ~20s ea? Sure we got through the fight but I feel the food wasn’t really worth it as it mostly just added precision and a little vitality.

So again how useful are foods and I guess what food should I get, if any, that will be useful?

I never use food, a powerful slaying potion is enough, especially when stacking damage modifiers.

For soloing things though, like my failed lupi attempts and champ risen giant which I did recently, I use the 100+ precision, 10%+ crit damage food plus slaying potion.

I keep a bunch of dragon candies (the 20min cheap lifesteal food) in my inventory for places where the regen is useful. I use minotaur steak (prec critdmg food which used to be really cheap) for casual runs.

The best foods are the Curry/Sweet and Spicy Butternut Squash soups, but they are (especially sweet n spicy) pretty pricey so I don’t use them too often.

With the cheapest food you will probably even make little profit. Slightly faster runs and slightly less chance to wipe and get repair fee.

Can’t say I’ve ever really noticed a difference between no buff and having food plus utility. I usually don’t use anything and I don’t do dungeons that frequently so I often end up forgetting until part way through (or sometimes completely through!) the dungeon. There has never been a ‘Wow! This is much better.’ moment. I still use them when I remember mainly because in theory it is better.

You are looking at 10%-15% more damage. Up to you how much you value that.

Wethospu.6437:

With the cheapest food you will probably even make little profit. Slightly faster runs and slightly less chance to wipe and get repair fee.

I really don’t play to get huge amounts of gold it is nice sure, but honestly I don’t know why I play really just the satisfaction of beating a dungeon.

10 – 15% damage increase would be amazing but like I said I play with randoms and most time they probably aren’t using foods either so again it would feel like a waste if I am putting everything into it just to carry them a little bit DPS wise.

In organized groups I am sure you all pile the foods on and just melt everything. I want to be an efficient player and see those high numbers, but I hate having the feeling I am the most useful person in the group.

Candy Dragon gimmicks are the default food you should use in casual runs. More perception is rarely bad, and you heal about 300 per second which is noticeable. Costs like 75c which is nothing for a guy about to get at least 1.26g for completing the dungeon.

You don’t need to use the best food, any food is better than nothing.

Hell, even if you use level 1 food, you still get a 10% exp bonus. It’s not a bad idea to buy food that costs up to 1s per 30 minute buff, so check out the level 50-70 versions of the food that has the stats you prefer.

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

Candy Dragon gimmicks are the default food you should use in casual runs. More perception is rarely bad, and you heal about 300 per second which is noticeable. Costs like 75c which is nothing for a guy about to get at least 1.26g for completing the dungeon.

It apparently steals, not just heals.

I usually use the orrian truffle and steak stew (dunno if i got it right). The extra endurance regen is nice and the extra stack of might is not a bad thing. I mostly use this for lupi in arah. Otherwise Mango Pies

Just get cheap foods if you’re worried about your money expenditure. Blackberry Pies are a decent lifesteal food and cost like 3c per. Chocolate Cherries give 26% MF and are also around that price. Still remaining within the acceptable price range, Slices of Candied Dragon Rolls are less than 1s and give the best possible lifesteal stats, same as Omnomberry Pies, except with a shorter duration. There’s also Dragon Buns which give +10% crit damage and +200 power on kill, which are also fairly cheap.

Food/utility buffs aren’t absolutely necessary, but it’s useful and helpful to have them.

I craft my own food and even I don’t generally use my best stuff on PUGs (although if people are dying all over the place, dramatically increasing boon duration for extra protection on the group is worth it to me to pay the omnomberry cream price). I do use SOMEthing though. A lot of it is super cheap to buy or make, so I don’t see why you wouldn’t.

Add another Dragon Rolls lover to the list, right here.

+1

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dragon's_Breath_Bun
You have literally no reason not to use this and Slaying potions. It’s MAYBE 2 silver for a single run.

You hate feeling like you’re the most useful person in the group? That’s the most backwards thing I’ve ever heard; imagine if everyone thought that way? Literally no one would pull their weight due to not wanting to be the only person pulling their weight, in contrast to everyone just pulling their weight in the first place, and then there will be no dead weight to carry.

Or maybe that’s too logical…

I made an “anchor” necro build because I got sick of carrying pugs. Let them carry me for a change.

Young Somalia.1706:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dragon's_Breath_Bun
You have literally no reason not to use this and Slaying potions. It’s MAYBE 2 silver for a single run.

You hate feeling like you’re the most useful person in the group? That’s the most backwards thing I’ve ever heard; imagine if everyone thought that way? Literally no one would pull their weight due to not wanting to be the only person pulling their weight, in contrast to everyone just pulling their weight in the first place, and then there will be no dead weight to carry.

Or maybe that’s too logical…

Does it have an ICD? Going to the second boss of HOTW p1 after killing all of the weak trash with like 5,500 power sounds crazy good.

Considering the power buff lasts for 30s, it is pretty situational.

mosspit.8936:

Considering the power buff lasts for 30s, it is pretty situational.

Do you perhaps run Clerics and RP walk from mob to mob?

And regardless of the subtraction of 200 power, it’s still an additional 10 crit damage, which for 80 copper, is cheaper than, and will benefit progression more than… magic find food.

mosspit.8936:

Considering the power buff lasts for 30s, it is pretty situational.

The cheap 10% crit damage is pretty cool beans

Not denying that. I was just being specific to the power buff.

Young Somalia.1706:

mosspit.8936:

Considering the power buff lasts for 30s, it is pretty situational.

Do you perhaps run Clerics and RP walk from mob to mob?

And regardless of the subtraction of 200 power, it’s still an additional 10 crit damage, which for 80 copper, is cheaper than, and will benefit progression more than… magic find food.

I stated it was situational. Meaning situations where you can find bosses with a load of weak mobs before it so as to capitalize on the power buff.

I definitely don’t have 6 stacks of Candied Dragon Roll in my bank and a stack on each character…. It’s pretty much the best price to reward ratio I can find and would only change to the super expensive stuff for a record, which I don’t do anyway xD
Also slayer potions are an absolute must, I buy the Powerful versions and use the weaker tier ones if I find them.
But in like… Crucible of Eternity you’ve got something like 3 types of enemies, so I don’t really see the point in a slayer potion. And I’m not too sure about AC, don’t you need a Ghost Slaying Potion? I don’t even know.

The blackberry pies are cheaper than the dragon rolls now

Mental checklist:

AC1 – It will be up for Queen, Burrows, and perhaps intermittently during final boss (I’m unsure if tagging an add that runs into a flame circle procs it, otherwise not) [2/3 combat events]
AC2 – It will be up for Queen, defending Detha at pillars, but not for end boss [2/3 combat events]
AC3 – Queen, Burrows, more Burrows, but not end boss [3/4 combat events]

CoF1 – It will be up for Slave Driver, anything after the first Acolyte in Acolyte room, and at totems, but perhaps only Effigy for a short time [3/4 combat events]
CoF2 – Devourers, Burrows, and the two rooms atop the ramp, as well as defending Magg and final boss [6/6 combat events]
CoF3 – Active while clearing torches, trash leading to first champ, and the defend event; likely not maintainable for champ drake and end boss [3/5 combat events]

HotW1 – Opening trash, turrets, maybe Troll, plus the trash and boss after the troll will be permanent uptime, but you will lose it at Ginva [3/5 combat events]

SE1 – Should be active on first two bosses, 66% uptime on Golem trio, down on last boss [call it 3/4 combat events]
SE3 – First boss, Zadorojny after you kill one of his many escorts, and Destroyer if he spawns an add pretty early to keep uptime from killing Zadorojny [3/4 combat events]

Meh typing this on a cellphone is a joke. I’d keep going but I don’t care so much. Yeah, it’s situational. But as you can see it’s still got a pretty good (minimum 50% combat events) uptime if you’re not RPing walking inbetween mobs killed with Cleric gear.

Young Somalia.1706:

Mental checklist:

AC1 – It will be up for Queen, Burrows, and perhaps intermittently during final boss (I’m unsure if tagging an add that runs into a flame circle procs it, otherwise not) [2/3 combat events]
AC2 – It will be up for Queen, defending Detha at pillars, but not for end boss [2/3 combat events]
AC3 – Queen, Burrows, more Burrows, but not end boss [3/4 combat events]

CoF1 – It will be up for Slave Driver, anything after the first Acolyte in Acolyte room, and at totems, but perhaps only Effigy for a short time [3/4 combat events]
CoF2 – Devourers, Burrows, and the two rooms atop the ramp, as well as defending Magg and final boss [6/6 combat events]
CoF3 – Active while clearing torches, trash leading to first champ, and the defend event; likely not maintainable for champ drake and end boss [3/5 combat events]

HotW1 – Opening trash, turrets, maybe Troll, plus the trash and boss after the troll will be permanent uptime, but you will lose it at Ginva [3/5 combat events]

SE1 – Should be active on first two bosses, 66% uptime on Golem trio, down on last boss [call it 3/4 combat events]
SE3 – First boss, Zadorojny after you kill one of his many escorts, and Destroyer if he spawns an add pretty early to keep uptime from killing Zadorojny [3/4 combat events]

Meh typing this on a cellphone is a joke. I’d keep going but I don’t care so much. Yeah, it’s situational. But as you can see it’s still got a pretty good (minimum 50% combat events) uptime if you’re not RPing walking inbetween mobs killed with Cleric gear.

It was not about it being economical or otherwise. It was purely in reply to the query by colesy.

colesy.8490:

Does it have an ICD? Going to the second boss of HOTW p1 after killing all of the weak trash with like 5,500 power sounds crazy good.

Situational in terms of killing large amounts of weak trash before bosses. Situation specifically on the power buff. Purely that. Btw, I have never RP-walked in GW2. In fact, I did not even bother to find out what the walk key is. (nor am I interested to find out)

shieeettt

I can’t even see who’s posting what when I read forums on a cellphone. Dat landscape website layout

Dolan.3071:

I definitely don’t have 6 stacks of Candied Dragon Roll in my bank and a stack on each character…. It’s pretty much the best price to reward ratio I can find and would only change to the super expensive stuff for a record, which I don’t do anyway xD
Also slayer potions are an absolute must, I buy the Powerful versions and use the weaker tier ones if I find them.
But in like… Crucible of Eternity you’ve got something like 3 types of enemies, so I don’t really see the point in a slayer potion. And I’m not too sure about AC, don’t you need a Ghost Slaying Potion? I don’t even know.

I use undead in COE because of alpha.

AC is probably ghost slaying but I think I read a wethospu post saying that the gravelings aren’t affected by ghost slaying. anyway ghost slaying is prohibitively expensive so skale venom is probably better

dragon’s breath buns are pretty cool too, I stocked up on a bunch of those using the zhaitaffy that I have leftover.

I doubt that “on-kill” food stacks.

They do not stack, tested this while doing old lupicus speedclears.

Well thanks for clearing that up.

Young Somalia.1706:

You hate feeling like you’re the most useful person in the group? That’s the most backwards thing I’ve ever heard; imagine if everyone thought that way? Literally no one would pull their weight due to not wanting to be the only person pulling their weight, in contrast to everyone just pulling their weight in the first place, and then there will be no dead weight to carry.

Or maybe that’s too logical…

No no, he hates how other people aren’t contributing as much as he is.

This is the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

AntiGw.9367:

Young Somalia.1706:

You hate feeling like you’re the most useful person in the group? That’s the most backwards thing I’ve ever heard; imagine if everyone thought that way? Literally no one would pull their weight due to not wanting to be the only person pulling their weight, in contrast to everyone just pulling their weight in the first place, and then there will be no dead weight to carry.

Or maybe that’s too logical…

No no, he hates how other people aren’t contributing as much as he is.

This is the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

This is the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

Anicetus.1253:

AntiGw.9367:

Young Somalia.1706:

You hate feeling like you’re the most useful person in the group? That’s the most backwards thing I’ve ever heard; imagine if everyone thought that way? Literally no one would pull their weight due to not wanting to be the only person pulling their weight, in contrast to everyone just pulling their weight in the first place, and then there will be no dead weight to carry.

Or maybe that’s too logical…

No no, he hates how other people aren’t contributing as much as he is.

This is the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

This is the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

This is Dub. He got banned from the forums for having the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Anicetus.1253:

AntiGw.9367:

Young Somalia.1706:

You hate feeling like you’re the most useful person in the group? That’s the most backwards thing I’ve ever heard; imagine if everyone thought that way? Literally no one would pull their weight due to not wanting to be the only person pulling their weight, in contrast to everyone just pulling their weight in the first place, and then there will be no dead weight to carry.

Or maybe that’s too logical…

No no, he hates how other people aren’t contributing as much as he is.

This is the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

This is the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

This is Dub. He got banned from the forums for having the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

This is the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Anicetus.1253:

AntiGw.9367:

Young Somalia.1706:

You hate feeling like you’re the most useful person in the group? That’s the most backwards thing I’ve ever heard; imagine if everyone thought that way? Literally no one would pull their weight due to not wanting to be the only person pulling their weight, in contrast to everyone just pulling their weight in the first place, and then there will be no dead weight to carry.

Or maybe that’s too logical…

No no, he hates how other people aren’t contributing as much as he is.

This is the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

This is the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

This is Dub. He got banned from the forums for having the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

It is me, i got banned for asking you how late it was in NZ.

guanlongwucaii.3162:

I use undead in COE because of alpha.

AC is probably ghost slaying but I think I read a wethospu post saying that the gravelings aren’t affected by ghost slaying. anyway ghost slaying is prohibitively expensive so skale venom is probably better

dragon’s breath buns are pretty cool too, I stocked up on a bunch of those using the zhaitaffy that I have leftover.

Meh Alpha dies so fast I don’t really see the point, budget cuts are coming Guan you gotta cut back!

I thought Gravelings were affected because you wouldn’t get your Daily Variety in AC as they both counted as “ghosts” :/ not that I would spend that much on a ghost slaying potion anyway.

Oh and Blackberry Pie is cheaper but isn’t is something like steal health on crit chance 40% vs 66% on DCR?

Yea, its slightly worse. But it also costs 5 copper lol

yeah these elitists called me cheap for using blackberry pies

He’s not even joking, we ripped into him for a whole run for using Blackberry Pies.
I love you really <3

Well even I feel cheap when I see people running +100 precision +10% crit damage.

So what I am getting just get the dragon stuff.

And yes Somalia I hate feeling like I am doing the most in a group similar to what AntiGW was trying to convey, but I am not an elitist I want people to play well and actually contribute to the group.

Thanks for the advice everyone.

I am elitist but never use food unless someone gifts it to me. I cant tell the difference.

I turned all my taffy into cupcakes. If I’m not speedrunning with the guild, I’ll pop one of those.

AntiGw.9367:

Young Somalia.1706:

You hate feeling like you’re the most useful person in the group? That’s the most backwards thing I’ve ever heard; imagine if everyone thought that way? Literally no one would pull their weight due to not wanting to be the only person pulling their weight, in contrast to everyone just pulling their weight in the first place, and then there will be no dead weight to carry.

Or maybe that’s too logical…

No no, he hates how other people aren’t contributing as much as he is.

This is the classic elitist mentality that we have seen in the zerker and MF discussions.

I think the correct statement is the person “believes” others aren’t contributing as much. The reality of said belief is inconsequential.

Dolan.3071:

guanlongwucaii.3162:

I use undead in COE because of alpha.

Meh Alpha dies so fast I don’t really see the point, budget cuts are coming Guan you gotta cut back!

COE is a pain to use slaying potions. I generally pop an inquest slaying potion after the first alpha to since there are golems for 3 rooms in a row, but I don’t bother with potions for the rest of this dungeon.

Default food for me is omnomberry pie for the life leech and extra precision, and being only a couple silver each.

^ Hey big spender! Dun dun dundun!

I use undead slaying for COE but then I have a mace with perception for trash, inquest slaying mace for the boring legendary golem an undead slaying mace for alpha and arah, so that paired with sigil of night axe and potion is 30%+ in damage modifiers.

Also I have svanir slaying, flame legion slaying, outlaw slaying, nightmare slaying, ghost slaying and dredge slaying maces.

If you do dungeons and don’t carry the appropriate weaponry for what you do, you ought to be expelled. Slaying sigils are cheaper than most consumables, and more effective :/

Flame Legion/Outlaw/Dredge/Undead/Inquest/Sons of Svanir/Elemental/Nightmare Court/Ghost/Force/Night type sigils-and-potions (to whichever potions apply to) master race reporting for duty.

I take Force and Night, then Force and Undead for Arah only, the other daytime dungeons are meh and I rarely do them.
I mean for a record run sure, but Jesus, do I look like I’m made of gold/dungeon tokens?… Well yes… I am actually, but I’m lazy, hell I’m flat out managing my stacking weapons. And to do that for all my alts? That’s literally one million tokens from CoF/CoE/Arah.