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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

TheMaskedParadigm.3629

You SHOULD blame yourself for being BAD and a CASUAL.

I bet he doesn’t even SAB.

Crigger just kicked me out of zone 3 at the checkpoint before King Toad. I’m going to eat his throat.

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Posted by: kokiman.2364

kokiman.2364

Thank God I had a ridiculous healing spec for my guardian.
- The next 20 minutes has the leader and I taking care of all the dogs, mostly because we have nothing better to do than twiddle our thumbs.

I have a heal-spec guardian because I want a heal-spec guardian.

http://youtu.be/-sRyEteX1Ag

obal, if you read the last paragraph of his latest post you’d see that he’s not interested in playing a good build, he is choosing of his own accord to use bad gear.

And then complaining about his party for being bad.

Mine as well try

No combatlog = useless.

GuildWars 2

Currently playing Heart of Thorns.

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Posted by: lunyboy.8672

lunyboy.8672

How the blazes did a thread about crappy group dynamics devolve into a build discussion? Way to undermine the message, guys.

You must be new here. There is very little intelligent analysis to be had in general, but there is only a small core group of real elitists, who are very good at the game, but they only make fun of people/builds/professions to make themselves feel better about something else in their life.

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Actually, here is the thing. The game is a year old. The “elitists” have been educating the community for months with video/stream guides, and written guides.

After a year, the answers to every question the game poses are out there if you put some effort into finding it. So forgive the elitists for being tired of explaining over and over again the answers to questions that ought not to be even asked anymore. And forgive them for not having patience for imbeciles who are too stubborn or stupid to avail themselves of the ample community resources at their disposal.

After all this time and effort, what is the proper response (if you won’t allow ‘derision’ to be the answer) to a person who says, “My sentinels/clerics hybrid necromancer minion build and 4 equally geared pug friends keep failing TAFU, please nerf! Also, I don’t want any help and I refuse to change my build or my utilities and no one in my party will change our build or our utilities and I expect a nerf”?

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Posted by: lunyboy.8672

lunyboy.8672

Actually, here is the thing. The game is a year old. The “elitists” have been educating the community for months with video/stream guides, and written guides.

After a year, the answers to every question the game poses are out there if you put some effort into finding it. So forgive the elitists for being tired of explaining over and over again the answers to questions that ought not to be even asked anymore. And forgive them for not having patience for imbeciles who are too stubborn or stupid to avail themselves of the ample community resources at their disposal.

After all this time and effort, what is the proper response (if you won’t allow ‘derision’ to be the answer) to a person who says, “My sentinels/clerics hybrid necromancer minion build and 4 equally geared pug friends keep failing TAFU, please nerf! Also, I don’t want any help and I refuse to change my build or my utilities and no one in my party will change our build or our utilities and I expect a nerf”?

This is the official DUNGEON board. I simply suggest that this would be the first place people go when something in the game becomes frustratingly difficult.

Good information about builds isn’t that easy to find, there are no clearing houses of “good” builds with ratings, and the plethora of “guides” on youtube is spurious at best.

The game is advertised as play the way you want, with no holy trinity, and roles are very poorly defined. On top of that, PvE outside of dungeons isn’t challenging, you can get to 80 easily with greens, group up to do events, all without research.

Maybe you should consider that, and take your clear hatred of casuals to a private forum, so you have har har har without the rest of us being subjected to it.

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Posted by: swiftpaw.6397

swiftpaw.6397

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Posted by: obal.3218

obal.3218

Aside from the video sticky….

Guardian
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83701-the-perfect-dps-guardian-build/
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84653-the-virtuan-sf-gs-guardian-dps-build/
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84006-guardian-video-guide-for-fractals-of-the-mist-shown-at-48/

Warrior
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83915-axemace-dps-build-for-dungeons-and-fractals-62513/

Ranger
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84268-the-perfect-dps-ranger-guide-for-real/

Theif
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84546-the-perfect-dps-thief-build/

Mesmer
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83936-the-new-mesmer-meta/

Engineer
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/82395-guide-to-grenades-in-pve/

Necromancer
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/81260-powermancer-glass-cannon-build/

Elementalist
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83561-hamartias-sd-elementalist-build-dps-might-stacking/

Good information about builds isn’t that easy to find, there are no clearing houses of “good” builds with ratings, and the plethora of “guides” on youtube is spurious at best.

It’s not hard to find good ones. The length of the video is a pretty good indicator for dungeons. For builds if it’s for dungeons and it’s not a zerker power build it’s bad. If it’s a condition or healing build it’s really bad. People are hesitant to change to this and look for something easier and much worse rather than try it and get better.

The game is advertised as play the way you want, with no holy trinity, and roles are very poorly defined.

True, but after a year of being out it is pretty clear what each profession brings.

Warrior – offensive support of FGJ, banners, vulnerability
Guardian – defensive support of projectile reflects/destruction, condition removal, defensive boons, binding blades, blinds
Mesmer – utility of TW, feedback and other reflects, focus pull, null field, group boon copying
Elementalist – lots of might and fury and conjured weapons
Ranger – offensive support of spotter and frost spirit
Engineer – stacking max vulnerability with grenades
Theif – stealth, lots of dps, good for stacking might before fights blasting sb in a fire field
Necro – blinds, chill, vulnerability

A good group comp maintain 20+ might and vulnerability stacks, perma fury, reflects if needed, condition removal if needed, and ZERKERS. Some other good things depending on the situation would be blinds, cc, and perm prot.

Probably left out some things but oh well. You get the drift.

(edited by obal.3218)

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Posted by: Shiren.9532

Shiren.9532

It appears no one in your group knew to stack behind the stairs :/
Doing so would have made quick work of those dogs.
(and I agree, a smarter man would have quit. A 15 min run should never take 3 hours).

The guardian was running a healing spec and the ranger was using shortbow in melee range. I seriously doubt stacking behind the stairs was going to be helpful. A lot of stacking strategies rely on high DPS and temporary immunity skills to succeed. In that sense, glass cannon is often the easiest build to run because Glyph of Storms in earth attunement is going to do more for your survivability than soldier’s gear, and when it ends you best hope the mob is taking a lot of damage or you might actually have to try.

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Posted by: lunyboy.8672

lunyboy.8672

Aside from the video sticky….

Guardian
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83701-the-perfect-dps-guardian-build/
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84653-the-virtuan-sf-gs-guardian-dps-build/
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84006-guardian-video-guide-for-fractals-of-the-mist-shown-at-48/

Warrior
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83915-axemace-dps-build-for-dungeons-and-fractals-62513/

Ranger
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84268-the-perfect-dps-ranger-guide-for-real/

Theif
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84546-the-perfect-dps-thief-build/

Mesmer
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83936-the-new-mesmer-meta/

Engineer
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/82395-guide-to-grenades-in-pve/

Necromancer
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/81260-powermancer-glass-cannon-build/

Elementalist
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83561-hamartias-sd-elementalist-build-dps-might-stacking/

Good information about builds isn’t that easy to find, there are no clearing houses of “good” builds with ratings, and the plethora of “guides” on youtube is spurious at best.

It’s not hard to find good ones. The length of the video is a pretty good indicator for dungeons. For builds if it’s for dungeons and it’s not a zerker power build it’s bad. If it’s a condition or healing build it’s really bad. People are hesitant to change to this and look for something easier and much worse rather than try it and get better.

The game is advertised as play the way you want, with no holy trinity, and roles are very poorly defined.

True, but after a year of being out it is pretty clear what each profession brings.

Warrior – offensive support of FGJ, banners, vulnerability
Guardian – defensive support of projectile reflects/destruction, condition removal, defensive boons, binding blades, blinds
Mesmer – utility of TW, feedback and other reflects, focus pull, null field, group boon copying
Elementalist – lots of might and fury and conjured weapons
Ranger – offensive support of spotter and frost spirit
Engineer – stacking max vulnerability with grenades
Theif – stealth, lots of dps, good for stacking might before fights blasting sb in a fire field
Necro – blinds, chill, vulnerability

A good group comp maintain 20+ might and vulnerability stacks, perma fury, reflects if needed, condition removal if needed, and ZERKERS. Some other good things depending on the situation would be blinds, cc, and perm prot.

Probably left out some things but oh well. You get the drift.

This is actually more good information than I came across in my first 2 weeks playing. Not everyone has been playing for a year, and especially when coming from other game with more clear roles, it DOES take time to get used to the difference.

Thanks for the post, I hope more people see it.

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Posted by: Broadicea.8294

Broadicea.8294

Aside from the video sticky….

Guardian
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83701-the-perfect-dps-guardian-build/
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84653-the-virtuan-sf-gs-guardian-dps-build/
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84006-guardian-video-guide-for-fractals-of-the-mist-shown-at-48/

Warrior
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83915-axemace-dps-build-for-dungeons-and-fractals-62513/

Ranger
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84268-the-perfect-dps-ranger-guide-for-real/

Theif
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/84546-the-perfect-dps-thief-build/

Mesmer
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83936-the-new-mesmer-meta/

Engineer
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/82395-guide-to-grenades-in-pve/

Necromancer
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/81260-powermancer-glass-cannon-build/

Elementalist
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/83561-hamartias-sd-elementalist-build-dps-might-stacking/

Good information about builds isn’t that easy to find, there are no clearing houses of “good” builds with ratings, and the plethora of “guides” on youtube is spurious at best.

It’s not hard to find good ones. The length of the video is a pretty good indicator for dungeons. For builds if it’s for dungeons and it’s not a zerker power build it’s bad. If it’s a condition or healing build it’s really bad. People are hesitant to change to this and look for something easier and much worse rather than try it and get better.

The game is advertised as play the way you want, with no holy trinity, and roles are very poorly defined.

True, but after a year of being out it is pretty clear what each profession brings.

Warrior – offensive support of FGJ, banners, vulnerability
Guardian – defensive support of projectile reflects/destruction, condition removal, defensive boons, binding blades, blinds
Mesmer – utility of TW, feedback and other reflects, focus pull, null field, group boon copying
Elementalist – lots of might and fury and conjured weapons
Ranger – offensive support of spotter and frost spirit
Engineer – stacking max vulnerability with grenades
Theif – stealth, lots of dps, good for stacking might before fights blasting sb in a fire field
Necro – blinds, chill, vulnerability

A good group comp maintain 20+ might and vulnerability stacks, perma fury, reflects if needed, condition removal if needed, and ZERKERS. Some other good things depending on the situation would be blinds, cc, and perm prot.

Probably left out some things but oh well. You get the drift.

This whole post should be made into a thread that we keep bumped at the top. Compendium of dungeon builds. I’d say stickied but there are no mods for this forum, only modbot.

Retired. Too many casuals.

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

I’d say stickied but there are no mods for this forum, only modbot.

Are you smoking crackerjacks again? See ya in 3 days after my ban for using the modbot banned term “crackerjacks.”

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

TheMaskedParadigm.3629

I’d say stickied but there are no mods for this forum, only modbot.

Are you smoking crackerjacks again? See ya in 3 days after my ban for using the modbot banned term “crackerjacks.”

I get that reference!

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