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Posted by: ktmmax.3214

ktmmax.3214

As much as I feel going F2P is a good thing and will be delighted to bring in my other friends who were put off by prices, I am struggling to get to grips with the influx of new players trying to search for dungeons. Me and my group spent 30 minutes trying to advertise our path 3 AC because level 30’s kept spam joining every time we advertised for a ‘level 80 guardian’

Please can we get like a LFG system where we can select the level of player we want? E.g 70-80 only, so we don’t have to keep re posting as a result of new players not understanding the system and typical LFG advertisements.

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Posted by: phys.7689

phys.7689

they should really jack the ffxiv duty finder and party finder. You can set the jobs and levels you want i believe

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Posted by: Kordash.2197

Kordash.2197

Did you whisp him to ask to stop ? And told him (gently) to read the LFG before joining ?

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Posted by: Enko.6123

Enko.6123

Did you whisp him to ask to stop ? And told him (gently) to read the LFG before joining ?

I don’t think the OP was saying that the same person kept joining. Looks like it was just all the new players that the game has gotten.

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Posted by: Kordash.2197

Kordash.2197

If i’m not mistaken, F2P players can not use the lfg.

Either way, having them to know how to read the LFG’s properly is good for everyone.

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Posted by: phys.7689

phys.7689

If i’m not mistaken, F2P players can not use the lfg.

Either way, having them to know how to read the LFG’s properly is good for everyone.

it has a level requirement. Probably around 30 if i remember correctly.

and the game actually tells you to start using dungeons and use the lfg around this level.
anet has this really bad habit of ignoring existing issues, then promoting some new activity that highlights their old flaws.

they now set up a situation where newbs gonna get a negative experience because they havent improved lfg in 2 years. And they really wanted these newbs, so much so they giving the base game out and overcharging for HoT.

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Posted by: ktmmax.3214

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Yes it only requires you to be level 30, and obviously none of them have any idea what ‘p3 Meta guard’ or anything similar which results in all these new players with barely any experience and at level 30 trying to join every time you advertise. Fair enough to them; they want to try and experience dungeons and are excited for it, who wouldn’t be? but for us veterans it can be very frustrating having to repost your group every few seconds because new players are constantly trying to join as they have just unlocked their ‘dungeons feature’

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Posted by: phys.7689

phys.7689

Yes it only requires you to be level 30, and obviously none of them have any idea what ‘p3 Meta guard’ or anything similar which results in all these new players with barely any experience and at level 30 trying to join every time you advertise. Fair enough to them; they want to try and experience dungeons and are excited for it, who wouldn’t be? but for us veterans it can be very frustrating having to repost your group every few seconds because new players are constantly trying to join as they have just unlocked their ‘dungeons feature’

not really fair to them because anet is setting up a situation they are likey to be rejected. The lfg has been problematic since its inception, but they never wanted to solve these issues because they werent too concerned with dungeons at all. If they want a less toxic raid culture, they are going to have to alter lfg systems.

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Posted by: ktmmax.3214

ktmmax.3214

Yes it only requires you to be level 30, and obviously none of them have any idea what ‘p3 Meta guard’ or anything similar which results in all these new players with barely any experience and at level 30 trying to join every time you advertise. Fair enough to them; they want to try and experience dungeons and are excited for it, who wouldn’t be? but for us veterans it can be very frustrating having to repost your group every few seconds because new players are constantly trying to join as they have just unlocked their ‘dungeons feature’

not really fair to them because anet is setting up a situation they are likey to be rejected. The lfg has been problematic since its inception, but they never wanted to solve these issues because they werent too concerned with dungeons at all. If they want a less toxic raid culture, they are going to have to alter lfg systems.

But then what are us veterans expected to do who quickly want to finish our daily dungeons and find 1 more player? Wait and keep kicking and advertising for 30 minutes till we finally get a level 80 player? AC is definitely going to be the worst for this.

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Posted by: Kordash.2197

Kordash.2197

Excuse me, but the user experience of the LFG is actually tied to people mostly using it wrong, aka, “DIDN’T READ LOL HURR DURR”, and not the tool in itself. Working on features to prevent things that can be prevented with a bit of common sense isn’t good. For the very simple reason that doesn’t help people to improve their very basics social skills.

Yes in some case the tool allow griefing (instance stealing for example), and that should be worked on. But not the “not reading” part.

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Posted by: Kordash.2197

Kordash.2197

Yes it only requires you to be level 30, and obviously none of them have any idea what ‘p3 Meta guard’ or anything similar which results in all these new players with barely any experience and at level 30 trying to join every time you advertise. Fair enough to them; they want to try and experience dungeons and are excited for it, who wouldn’t be? but for us veterans it can be very frustrating having to repost your group every few seconds because new players are constantly trying to join as they have just unlocked their ‘dungeons feature’

not really fair to them because anet is setting up a situation they are likey to be rejected. The lfg has been problematic since its inception, but they never wanted to solve these issues because they werent too concerned with dungeons at all. If they want a less toxic raid culture, they are going to have to alter lfg systems.

But then what are us veterans expected to do who quickly want to finish our daily dungeons and find 1 more player? Wait and keep kicking and advertising for 30 minutes till we finally get a level 80 player? AC is definitely going to be the worst for this.

You are a bit over exagerating. If it takes you that long, either you’re playing @ 3 a.m in your server time zone, or you are doing it wrong.

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Posted by: ktmmax.3214

ktmmax.3214

Yes it only requires you to be level 30, and obviously none of them have any idea what ‘p3 Meta guard’ or anything similar which results in all these new players with barely any experience and at level 30 trying to join every time you advertise. Fair enough to them; they want to try and experience dungeons and are excited for it, who wouldn’t be? but for us veterans it can be very frustrating having to repost your group every few seconds because new players are constantly trying to join as they have just unlocked their ‘dungeons feature’

not really fair to them because anet is setting up a situation they are likey to be rejected. The lfg has been problematic since its inception, but they never wanted to solve these issues because they werent too concerned with dungeons at all. If they want a less toxic raid culture, they are going to have to alter lfg systems.

But then what are us veterans expected to do who quickly want to finish our daily dungeons and find 1 more player? Wait and keep kicking and advertising for 30 minutes till we finally get a level 80 player? AC is definitely going to be the worst for this.

You are a bit over exagerating. If it takes you that long, either you’re playing @ 3 a.m in your server time zone, or you are doing it wrong.

It’s easy to judge my ignorance however I hope you can understand that It’s very frustrating for me and my group having to wait 30 minutes and constantly keep kicking and re posting our LFG. And it was around 11am server time.

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Posted by: Kordash.2197

Kordash.2197

I know it’s frustrating, i’ve been there myself, but when people are new, it’s better to act to form them to use the LFG properly. Trolls are another matter.

Let’s not lie to ourselves, even with a better LFG tool, you’ll still be in this kind of situations, or probably waiting even longer to get what you want (l80 guard).

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Posted by: Rasimir.6239

Rasimir.6239

It’s very frustrating for me and my group having to wait 30 minutes and constantly keep kicking and re posting our LFG. And it was around 11am server time.

Excuse the question, but wouldn’t it have been quicker if you had just 4-manned the dungeon?

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Posted by: Element Two.7316

Element Two.7316

In the time you spent waiting for a level 80 guardian, you could have done all 3 paths with whatever team you already had, and then probably all of CM/SE/TA too.

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Posted by: SkyFallsInThunder.8257

SkyFallsInThunder.8257

Excuse me, but the user experience of the LFG is actually tied to people mostly using it wrong, aka, “DIDN’T READ LOL HURR DURR”, and not the tool in itself. Working on features to prevent things that can be prevented with a bit of common sense isn’t good. For the very simple reason that doesn’t help people to improve their very basics social skills.

Yes in some case the tool allow griefing (instance stealing for example), and that should be worked on. But not the “not reading” part.

The tool can be changed by ANet. The mentality of players cannot, ANet can’t force people to read and in general to be better individuals, especially in this case where we all know how idiotic can people behave.

A filter to the lfg would be most useful.

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Posted by: robertul.3679

robertul.3679

Assuming these new players stick around and eventually buy HoT I consider the situation perfectly handled.

Gathering wood and talking to npcs doesn’t teach you anything about the toxicity of a virtual environment. They gotta get ready for the raids.

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Posted by: Rising Dusk.2408

Rising Dusk.2408

This is actually a very valid point. I’ll communicate this along to the developers so that they realize what F2P is doing to the LFG. It may heighten the priority of a number of LFG enhancements I noted awhile back.

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Posted by: azizul.8469

azizul.8469

he can’t keep join spam , can he? because after a while the system will tell “you already joined too many party recently” .. kinda

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Posted by: moiraine.2753

moiraine.2753

he can’t keep join spam , can he? because after a while the system will tell “you already joined too many party recently” .. kinda

You did not understand the OP.He didn’t say it was the same persone.

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