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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

The biggest problem I find with GW2 is that content just doesn’t feel fresh. I am always going into the path of least resistance and never anywhere else.

Merge dungeons with Fractals and then up the reward to 10g/20g/30g/etc. Then there can be a Fractal finder tab to join fractal instance from anywhere. This will give fractals 32-100 new path and a ton of more variety of boss fights. To solve players that keeps refreshing to get the shortest path/swamp fractal, every day will have a pre-determined path. Meaning, it is no longer random when you choose. There are a ton of instances and choices to keep fractal fresh.

Dungeon currencies will now be converted to fractal currency. While exclusivity is important, it is lost the moment when ANet put dungeon rewards in sPvP. I don’t need to set my foot in Arah to get Arah gear. I can simply just rank reward farm my way.

After 1000 runs, no one cares about the lore, if you do then don’t join my group I don’t want you to watch the storyline. If ANet wants to keep lore, then ANet can make explorable path be a side story instance that can be done alone or with 5 people. Those would give a one time reward like a story mode path. This way, ANet doesn’t need to completely trash explorable path. Then ANet put the short and harder path and more fun boss fights in Fractals. They can recycle old mobs while still keeping the lore about them with the side story instances.

ANet can include also Living Story season 2 instance and boss fights. They are really fun and deserve a fractal instance. This will allow fractals to grow while more Living Story is created.

Fractals 10-19 should have no agony involved. Mainly so that players without Ascended Gear can play two or three different daily fractal instance. Add a level 60 Fractal path and shift the agony progression starting at level 20 instead of level 10. Fractal 10-19 will still drop Pristine fractal tokens so players can acquire ascended rings.

I won’t pretend it is an easy task, but this suggestion will allow Fractal/challenging content to grow:

  • Recycle old content.
  • Can recycle newly added content.
  • Add tons of new boss fractal already and can easily add some more new bosses. I want to fight a harder Forgeman boss, he was epic. I want to fight Kodan’s Bane again. ANet can easily add Shadow of the Dragon which is one of my favorite.
  • Bring every dungeon players together. No more waiting for people on doing a instance that no one wants to do.
  • Cut down the frustration and boring parts of dungeon instance. Instead of a 6 hour path, ANet can simply cut down the entire annoyance away. Looking at SEp2 and Aetherblade.
  • It also benefits new players. They can watch the dungeon instance cinematic without needing to interrupt because the speedrunners are doing fractals.
  • Less clutter on the lfg finder UI.
  • Daily paths will feel fresh every day because there are 32 or more different instance that can be comboed for 3 paths. More instances can be added through living story.
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Posted by: Artemis Thuras.8795

Artemis Thuras.8795

So I might get arah p4, ta aetherpath, and volcanic fractal in one run?

I think I’ll pass. Even if you were offering 100g, I’d hardly ever have enough time to be able to say " I can complete this today".

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

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I’m fairly confident that we’ll see the LS2 instances made into fractals at some point. It would be silly not to — the content is there, it’s interesting, and it just needs the difficulty bumped up to make them into really fun fractal shards.

Personally, this wouldn’t do it for me. I hate the RNG nature of fractals. Sometimes I’ll get the itch: “Gee, I’d really like to play through X fractal.” But then I remember that there’s a pretty low chance that I’ll actually get to play that fractal, and it’s more likely that I’ll end up spending a lot of time doing a ton of fractals I despise.

Adding more content would be nice, but I’d honestly rather see this turned around — make specific FotM shards playable on demand.

So I might get arah p4, ta aetherpath, and volcanic fractal in one run?

I think I’ll pass. Even if you were offering 100g, I’d hardly ever have enough time to be able to say " I can complete this today".

This can be easily finished in under an hour. How is that too much time?

With a PUG?

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Posted by: Artemis Thuras.8795

Artemis Thuras.8795

So I might get arah p4, ta aetherpath, and volcanic fractal in one run?

I think I’ll pass. Even if you were offering 100g, I’d hardly ever have enough time to be able to say " I can complete this today".

This can be easily finished in under an hour. How is that too much time?

With a PUG?

With anything less than a very well practiced SC-type group?

RNG defining length of time required is a bad plan. makes it hard to commit to content.
especially when you add several instances that may take pugs anything from 1-8 hours to complete.

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Posted by: Bukkebruse.2810

Bukkebruse.2810

I’m fairly confident that we’ll see the LS2 instances made into fractals at some point. It would be silly not to — the content is there, it’s interesting, and it just needs…

…to be sold for 200 gems per episode on the gemstore :^)

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

I’m fairly confident that we’ll see the LS2 instances made into fractals at some point. It would be silly not to — the content is there, it’s interesting, and it just needs…

…to be sold for 200 gems per episode on the gemstore :^)

This. Plus, there’s nothing in LS2 that’s even remotely on the difficulty level of a fractal.

In any case, the game is moving more and more toward open world, “avoid the orange circle and stand in white circle while spamming skill”s gameplay. Dungeons and fractals don’t fit the current GW2 content model.

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Posted by: Windsagio.1340

Windsagio.1340

God, no.

Fractal encounters, as a rule, are about 5.6 billion times more interesting than dungeon encounters. Don’t poison the well.

LS2 encounters if upscaled would work though (the adjusted the LS1 ones, sometimes a lot, to make them work)

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

I’m fairly confident that we’ll see the LS2 instances made into fractals at some point. It would be silly not to — the content is there, it’s interesting, and it just needs…

…to be sold for 200 gems per episode on the gemstore :^)

This. Plus, there’s nothing in LS2 that’s even remotely on the difficulty level of a fractal.

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I’m fairly confident that we’ll see the LS2 instances made into fractals at some point. It would be silly not to — the content is there, it’s interesting, and it just needs the difficulty bumped up to make them into really fun fractal shards.

They’d definitely need to be boosted up in difficulty, but some of the encounters were rather interesting — especially when compared to most dungeon bosses. Besides, it would be a real shame if that Glint’s Lair decor only made it into a LS episode that only gets played once and forgotten.

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Agree so much dlonie.

And I wouldn’t mind peices of some dungeons making their way into fractals, surely not whole things though. Especially that I do fractals more than anything now I wouldn’t mind a Lupi Fractal, I miss my best buddy. Bring back TAFU as a fractal?!?!

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

I’m fairly confident that we’ll see the LS2 instances made into fractals at some point. It would be silly not to — the content is there, it’s interesting, and it just needs…

…to be sold for 200 gems per episode on the gemstore :^)

This. Plus, there’s nothing in LS2 that’s even remotely on the difficulty level of a fractal.

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I’m fairly confident that we’ll see the LS2 instances made into fractals at some point. It would be silly not to — the content is there, it’s interesting, and it just needs the difficulty bumped up to make them into really fun fractal shards.

They’d definitely need to be boosted up in difficulty, but some of the encounters were rather interesting. Besides, it would be a real shame if that Glint’s Lair decor only made it into a LS episode that only gets played once and forgotten.

I think the his response is right though… If they’re going to sell the LS episodes in the gemstore, it’d look really bad to also recycle them for fractals.

Either way, I don’t see them interested in doing any work on fractals/dungeons aside from botched Lupi-like changes.

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

If they’re going to sell the LS episodes in the gemstore, it’d look really bad to also recycle them for fractals.

deflates

I hadn’t thought of that. :’-(

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Posted by: Cheezy.2039

Cheezy.2039

I’m fairly confident that we’ll see the LS2 instances made into fractals at some point. It would be silly not to — the content is there, it’s interesting, and it just needs…

…to be sold for 200 gems per episode on the gemstore :^)

Can easily get the money for that out of Bukkes Bank

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Posted by: lLobo.7960

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Although the Idea of merging dungeons in fotm is terrible (for all the reasons mentioned above)
It would be interesting to see mechanics like the fotm levels and instabilities placed into dungeon paths. Not as many, but some increased lvls of difficulty with greater rewards and “instabilities” themed for each dungeon.
Each dungeon getting some 3 “challenge” levels for their paths.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

Although the Idea of merging dungeons in fotm is terrible (for all the reasons mentioned above)
It would be interesting to see mechanics like the fotm levels and instabilities placed into dungeon paths. Not as many, but some increased lvls of difficulty with greater rewards and “instabilities” themed for each dungeon.
Each dungeon getting some 3 “challenge” levels for their paths.

They had the right idea with selectable gambits in the Queen’s Gauntlet, but totally dropped the ball by not implementing them for fractals and dungeons. Instead, we got the far inferior instabilities.

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

So I might get arah p4, ta aetherpath, and volcanic fractal in one run?

I think I’ll pass. Even if you were offering 100g, I’d hardly ever have enough time to be able to say " I can complete this today".

You would get a small part of Arah p4. a small part of TA aetherpath and Volcanic Fractal in one run.

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Posted by: Artemis Thuras.8795

Artemis Thuras.8795

So I might get arah p4, ta aetherpath, and volcanic fractal in one run?

I think I’ll pass. Even if you were offering 100g, I’d hardly ever have enough time to be able to say " I can complete this today".

You would get a small part of Arah p4. a small part of TA aetherpath and Volcanic Fractal in one run.

breaking them up sounds like a lot of work for anet..

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Posted by: Bloodgruve.6038

Bloodgruve.6038

Sometimes I have 15 minutes and want to run a dungeon. I rarely get into fractals because of time constraints. Don’t take away my quick dungeon runs.

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Posted by: cocowoushi.7150

cocowoushi.7150

No thank you. I’d rather encourage anet to make new mini dungeons via fractals insead of recycling again and again.