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Posted by: HamHat.5201

HamHat.5201

i’ve tested running circles in a pug and I tend to be the only one being attacked. Any one else notice this? How ever when i’m playing with my guild it seems pretty balanced.

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Posted by: Oglaf.1074

Oglaf.1074

1) What class are you?
2) What weapons do you use?
3) Do you stack Toughness?

I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.

Do you even lift, bro?

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Posted by: lcpdragonslayer.7895

lcpdragonslayer.7895

What Oglaf said. They target the people with higher toughness so if you have the highest toughness by far in your group, you become the computer-designated tank.

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Posted by: Cathbadb.6079

Cathbadb.6079

Try being a Hybrid specced Necromancer with only short ranged weapons (i.e. scepter/focus, axe/dagger) and have the Ice elemental Boss in FotM chase you around (along with his adds) right on your heels. Makes for some interesting game play and no amount of frustration for the other players in the group who try as they might cannot pull aggro off you unless you’re dead.

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Posted by: JJBigs.8456

JJBigs.8456

Use swiftness? Stun him/Immobilize when hes under the faucet to gain distance too (ask team if you have none). Ive never had the boss “on my heels” even when he does chase you

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Posted by: Jabiacas Horologium.4976

Jabiacas Horologium.4976

Go to the gw2 wiki and look up ‘aggro’. Sounds like the others in your group are either long ranged glass cannons or they know how to manage their aggro which dumps it on the only person that doesn’t know how to do leap frog dumps to manage their own. Are you using toughness, shields, are you the closest person to the mobs most of the time?

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Posted by: Khal Drogo.9631

Khal Drogo.9631

Aggro is not so clear cut. Mobs still go for the glass cannon warriors when my 2549 defense mesmer is around.

I notice this most visibly with the COF P1 slave driver and HOTW P1 troll. I am standing closer, have better toughness than the GS warrior and they go out of their way to chase down the warrior. In the wiki I tot I read something about highest DPS being part of the aggro table

Apologies to those who may find my posts on GW2 forums offensive and hateful.

(edited by Khal Drogo.9631)

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Posted by: ComeAndSee.1356

ComeAndSee.1356

Toughness, high armor, and a Shield are the biggest passive aggro grabs ingame.

Sha Nari – 80 Guardian (http://bit.ly/12RNvtK)
Lorella Windrunner – 80 Thief
Shayera Nightfall – 80 Mesmer

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Posted by: Oglaf.1074

Oglaf.1074

Aggro is not so clear cut. Mobs still go for the glass cannon warriors when my 2549 defense mesmer is around.

I notice this most visibly with the COF P1 slave driver and HOTW P1 troll. I am standing closer, have better toughness than the GS warrior and they go out of their way to chase down the warrior. In the wiki I tot I read something about highest DPS being part of the aggro table

Damage and proximity are also contributing to aggro. As such, a close-range Profession dealing high damage does generate quite a lot of aggro.

I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.

Do you even lift, bro?

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Posted by: Sandbenders.5027

Sandbenders.5027

On fractal yesterday (after patch) Mossman won’t let go of me and I had neither the most or lesser toughness of the group (also didn’t hit it first). As an Engineer I wasn’t dealing the most damage.

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Posted by: Oglaf.1074

Oglaf.1074

On fractal yesterday (after patch) Mossman won’t let go of me and I had neither the most or lesser toughness of the group (also didn’t hit it first). As an Engineer I wasn’t dealing the most damage.

Some mobs, bosses in particular, have their own unique aggro rules that deviate from the norm.

I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.

Do you even lift, bro?

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Posted by: Nokaru.7831

Nokaru.7831

You’re being Dynamically Aggro’ed™.

In all seriousness, their aggro system is in dire need of rework to make it actually more dynamic.

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Posted by: Cathbadb.6079

Cathbadb.6079

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Posted by: sostronk.8167

sostronk.8167

I pull alot more aggro depending on how much damage Im doing. I run all classes in dungeons and my thief pulls the most aggro because it is doing the most damage, probably followed by my warrior.

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Posted by: Jabiacas Horologium.4976

Jabiacas Horologium.4976

Gaining and Losing Aggro

For a neutral (yellow outlined) NPC the player must attack first to gain its attention. The aggro table of a hostile NPC changes dynamically depending on a number of factors, in order of importance [citation needed] :

closest target to them
who is dealing damage
top damage dealers
who is using a shield / has more toughness and overall armor
others (see Tanking tactics below)

As a consequence, to lose aggro, the player moves to be further from the NPC than other players or allies and ceases all attacks. A typically effective Guild Wars 2 technique to lose aggro is to roll away (dodge) from the hostile NPC. This is based on the fact that the distance travelled away from the hostile NPC by rolling is greater than the distance a player could run in the same amount of time. Lastly, a jump seems slower than a run – jumping away from the NPC will not help on a flat surface.

NPCs that cannot target a player nor find a path to a position where they can target the player will quickly cancel all aggro towards this player. This means that either jumping out of reach of a melee foe (NPCs cannot jump) or switching between land and water (against strictly aquatic or terrestrial NPCs):

is effective in breaking aggro;
is not effective in killing it safely, especially if there is no other ally to keep the NPC in combat mode.

Indeed, a NPC who loses aggro towards everything usually turns invulnerable for a short while, long enough to regenerate entirely, and proceeds slowly to its spawning area. However, once at full health, most of the time it becomes available again to attack even if it is still moving.
[edit] Tanking

Although Guild Wars 2 does not allow players to become unkillable tanks like in other MMOs (mainly because of the lack of effective long-term healing), keeping the aggro of a NPC while kiting, blocking or otherwise dodging his attacks remains a valid strategy, if a difficult one, especially against melee foes. However, keep in mind that different NPCs use different aggro mechanics, and that a tactic that is useful against some NPCs can utterly fail against another.

One tactic that involves manipulating the aggro table is called kiting. This usually means to generate a large amount of threat for a hostile NPC and then run, avoiding the NPC’s attacks so that other party members may kill the NPC without taking any damage.
Another tactic involves reviving fallen allies in turns to draw a NPC accross the battlefield, while the other players attack it. Highly challenging enemies such as Champions and event bosses indeed value reviving to the point of sometimes ignoring any other factor, while stopping reviving will draw their attention to the more classical threat sources.

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Posted by: loneknight.8425

loneknight.8425

lol, I too noticed necro tend to grab attention of lupi (those poor guys kiting like crazy), follow by me when necro is downed.

The thief who did dat – Crystal Desert

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

i don t think is based only on armor..

My Full GC mesmer Always get mossman aggro for the Whole duration of the fight……as happens to other mobs.

Its possibly more dps+armor or something like that.

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: HamHat.5201

HamHat.5201

Thanks for all the info def gonna check out aggro, I do run a ver tanky guardian hammer build. So that’s probably it. Just seems a bit unfair that I build my character with full exotics so I am the only one that gets attacked.

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Posted by: Oglaf.1074

Oglaf.1074

i don t think is based only on armor..

My Full GC mesmer Always get mossman aggro for the Whole duration of the fight……as happens to other mobs.

Its possibly more dps+armor or something like that.

Some mobs, bosses in particular, have their own unique aggro rules that deviate from the norm.

I can do thirty Five-Dolyak Arm Curls.

Do you even lift, bro?