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Posted by: Minigrump.4961

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Picture Explains itself at a level 10 fractal. (Note if you can not see it the guardian is using scepter on the colossus)

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Posted by: Saulius.8430

Saulius.8430

never argue with stupid, from distance no one can tell the difference

kill all ze thingz

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Posted by: adam.8692

adam.8692

He plays "how he wants";)

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Posted by: Dog.1472

Dog.1472

I can already hear it…

“Stop telling me how to play!”
“Just worry about yourself!”
“I’ll do what I want!”
“Gotta be a perfect run for that guy I guess.”
“Elitist”

Yeah I guess I get a little kitten over things like this… Can’t even show people how to do something without being called an “elitist”.

“Please, you can look down on people without having to be physically above them.
As an asura, I do this all the time.”

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Posted by: Konrad.9587

Konrad.9587

Was it… a bearbow?

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Posted by: Black Box.9312

Black Box.9312

The “who cares” just makes this SO perfect.

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Posted by: Minigrump.4961

Minigrump.4961

Was it… a bearbow?

To answer your question, yes that was a bearbow in the pary. Not the best run but meh, it was a pug group. I just expect people to know how the fight actually works if you are doing a level 10 or higher fractal. :\

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Posted by: Fror.2163

Fror.2163

I personally wouldn’t blame the guardian too hard for the only reason that when I’m at Maw, I usually play Sword/Focus+Scepter/Focus. I keep the Sc/F for when I want to relax a bit on the last phase (because, hey, this is the 4th fractal and well… pugs). And when I’m Sw/F, I sometimes happen to swap weapons by mistake, rarely but still… it happens. I’d like to mention that if you have retaliation up (stand your ground, for instance) and play with projectiles on the colossi (typically the Sw 3 burst, but also Sc 1), you actually deal more damage to (one of) the colossi than with Sw auto-attack (based on experience, not numbers). But this is purely situational. On the other hand, if the guy played Sc/F for the whole phase, yes, that was stupidity.

Frór (yes, with the accent!)

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Posted by: Tree.3916

Tree.3916

Play how you want.

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Posted by: MastaNeenja.1537

MastaNeenja.1537

I would have cared, cared so much about how good it would feel for kicking you for being that kind of a smart kitten .

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Posted by: HELLruler.4820

HELLruler.4820

Note if you can not see it the guardian is using scepter on the colossus

To answer your question, yes that was a bearbow in the pary.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s written that the colossus reflects projectiles, right?

I mean, it’s ok play how you want as long as you don’t complain after being kicked, but not knowing some stuff at lvl 10 fractal (you did jade maw at least 4 times) is too much for even someone who doesn’t know how to read lol

Guess this game is just too hard…

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Posted by: durend.6237

durend.6237

I had a guard in my party that used scepter on those things once. His reply to my “you know they reflect projectiles right?” was “special tactics”. When I asked what those “tactics” were he replied with “I have retaliation”

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Posted by: Black Box.9312

Black Box.9312

I personally wouldn’t blame the guardian too hard for the only reason that when I’m at Maw, I usually play Sword/Focus+Scepter/Focus. I keep the Sc/F for when I want to relax a bit on the last phase (because, hey, this is the 4th fractal and well… pugs). And when I’m Sw/F, I sometimes happen to swap weapons by mistake, rarely but still… it happens. I’d like to mention that if you have retaliation up (stand your ground, for instance) and play with projectiles on the colossi (typically the Sw 3 burst, but also Sc 1), you actually deal more damage to (one of) the colossi than with Sw auto-attack (based on experience, not numbers). But this is purely situational. On the other hand, if the guy played Sc/F for the whole phase, yes, that was stupidity.

The third attack in the sword chain also gets reflected, just FYI. Use GS for the colossi instead.

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Posted by: Havvy.4897

Havvy.4897

Correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s written that the colossus reflects projectiles, right?

I mean, it’s ok play how you want as long as you don’t complain after being kicked, but not knowing some stuff at lvl 10 fractal (you did jade maw at least 4 times) is too much for even someone who doesn’t know how to read lol

Guess this game is just too hard…

Theoretically, only one person ever had to do jade maw 4 times to get to level 10 fractals. Everybody else could play the odd levels of whoever is the highest. Technically, a level 2 character just out of the starter instance could join a level 10 fractal.

But yes, he really needs to understand reflections.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

I had a guard in my party that used scepter on those things once. His reply to my “you know they reflect projectiles right?” was “special tactics”. When I asked what those “tactics” were he replied with “I have retaliation”

I could probably use some clarification about that. (Don’t have any classes that really use Retaliation, so I’m not too familiar with it.) So if you have Retal up, you get your projectiles reflected and take damage from it, you trigger your OWN Retaliation on yourself?

And is it possible to double reflect projectiles? (i.e. you use a projectile, he reflects it, you also pop a reflect skill. What happens then?)

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Posted by: Keiel.7489

Keiel.7489

I find that the lower the fractal level the longer the run is…

[DONE]

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Posted by: Fror.2163

Fror.2163

I personally wouldn’t blame the guardian too hard for the only reason that when I’m at Maw, I usually play Sword/Focus+Scepter/Focus. I keep the Sc/F for when I want to relax a bit on the last phase (because, hey, this is the 4th fractal and well… pugs). And when I’m Sw/F, I sometimes happen to swap weapons by mistake, rarely but still… it happens. I’d like to mention that if you have retaliation up (stand your ground, for instance) and play with projectiles on the colossi (typically the Sw 3 burst, but also Sc 1), you actually deal more damage to (one of) the colossi than with Sw auto-attack (based on experience, not numbers). But this is purely situational. On the other hand, if the guy played Sc/F for the whole phase, yes, that was stupidity.

The third attack in the sword chain also gets reflected, just FYI. Use GS for the colossi instead.

That’s the point! Put your retaliation up, use Sword 3. It gets reflected dealing dmg to you, but thanks to retaliation, you actually deal way more dmg to the colossus than the sword auto-attack. Granted you get some dmg (because of reflect), but nothing you can’t manage.

Frór (yes, with the accent!)

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Posted by: lunyboy.8672

lunyboy.8672

I had a guard in my party that used scepter on those things once. His reply to my “you know they reflect projectiles right?” was “special tactics”. When I asked what those “tactics” were he replied with “I have retaliation”

I could probably use some clarification about that. (Don’t have any classes that really use Retaliation, so I’m not too familiar with it.) So if you have Retal up, you get your projectiles reflected and take damage from it, you trigger your OWN Retaliation on yourself?

And is it possible to double reflect projectiles? (i.e. you use a projectile, he reflects it, you also pop a reflect skill. What happens then?)

I think you hit the maximum number of reflections at 1, which is to say, you can’t reliably re-reflect projectiles. I do not, however, know whether they just pass through a barrier or get absorbed as non-entities.

Projectile ownership is quite interesting in this game some times as well.

On another note, “I have retaliation!” will be my battle cry from now on.

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Posted by: SkyChef.5432

SkyChef.5432

I find that the lower the fractal level the longer the run is…

Haha, you just don’t know. I have run w/ 1 group at level 59 couple days ago and the skill level is just unbelievable bad. And you think if they got to this level they must be good, yes?
It’s all come down to 2 thing: who taught them the tactic at the 1st place and they believe that’s the way to go w/o looking for answers already available by googling & youtube. These people are very easy to rage quit, insulting others because they blame others for their failure. Never fail and it happens everywhere, pug or no pug.

People are too serious of their knowledge.

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