Genevieve Talbot [NP] – Noble Phantasm on Stormbluff Isle
Rangers have no respect in dungeons!
One of the problems is that rangers often need the active effect of signets, probably along with 1500 longbow range or piercing arrows, traits which are likely to be more appealing than Spotter. Or if they are using Spotter with longbow, chances are the rest of the party won’t be getting the precision.
The other issue that I want to bring up that applies often with the deeply-loathed bearbow pugs is the fact that often times in Arah, for example, their stupid pets can aggro elite mobs. “It’s on passive” pssh.
Personally I’ve seen my pet randomly start running towards an enemy when it was on passive. Although I don’t think it’s the most frequent bug. But it’s definitely happened several times before. I think another possible cause would be auto targeting with melee, where you hit a weapon skill that’s out of range and your pet starts running. Although this wouldn’t apply to bearbows. :P
so could some1 explain properly how a ranger would deal more or better sustained dps than a warrior or guardian or thief within a 10 seconds timeframe? that would be great.
The other issue that I want to bring up that applies often with the deeply-loathed bearbow pugs is the fact that often times in Arah, for example, their stupid pets can aggro elite mobs. “It’s on passive” pssh.
Pets won’t aggro anything that the ranger itself hasn’t aggroed.
so could some1 explain properly how a ranger would deal more or better sustained dps than a warrior or guardian or thief within a 10 seconds timeframe? that would be great.
I don’t think that’s how sustained works.
edit: and it doesn’t matter either way. you bring warrior for banner (and ea). you bring ranger for spotter/spirit.
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i remember in gw1 where it really didnt matter what class you were cause we have skills we can change to work with the group!
Ironic is it not? I thought GW2 originally intended to achieve exactly the opposite, and get rid of class discrimination, by scrapping the trinity. But it would seem they’ve actually made the problem worse.
“Madness is just another way to view reality”
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One of the problems is that rangers often need the active effect of signets, probably along with 1500 longbow range or piercing arrows, traits which are likely to be more appealing than Spotter. Or if they are using Spotter with longbow, chances are the rest of the party won’t be getting the precision.
The other issue that I want to bring up that applies often with the deeply-loathed bearbow pugs is the fact that often times in Arah, for example, their stupid pets can aggro elite mobs. “It’s on passive” pssh.
Personally I’ve seen my pet randomly start running towards an enemy when it was on passive. Although I don’t think it’s the most frequent bug. But it’s definitely happened several times before. I think another possible cause would be auto targeting with melee, where you hit a weapon skill that’s out of range and your pet starts running. Although this wouldn’t apply to bearbows. :P
Reminds me of the horrible dungeon NPC’s. Actually, I’m pretty sure your pets are way beyond the capacity of Varra Skylark; queen of aggroing mobs. I can actually be OOC and standing still and she’ll shoot a champion orrian warrior that wasn’t aggroed at all. I’m like “B**** WHATCHU DOIN!?!”
The other issue that I want to bring up that applies often with the deeply-loathed bearbow pugs is the fact that often times in Arah, for example, their stupid pets can aggro elite mobs. “It’s on passive” pssh.
Pets won’t aggro anything that the ranger itself hasn’t aggroed.
Are you certain? What about if for example, an orrian turret shot the ranger and as the ranger ran away, an elite risen walked right up to where the turret was when the bear pet lunged to retaliate on the turret. If the bear attacked, would it have the possibility of hitting both by accident? I could see some crap like that happening.
dont get mad at the people who want to get through content quickly and efficiently, its not their fault that anet messed up class balance.
if you want to spend 2 hours doing cof path 1 with 5 rangers, no one is stopping you, but dont make kitten posts crying because people dont want their time wasted with kittenty classes
reroll war, cry to anet, or play a different game
You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. I have 10 geared 80s and, of hundreds of p1 CoF runs, one of the fastest I’ve ever been a part of was a 5 Ranger group. Absolutely wrecked the place. It started at a ‘lfg Ranger only’ joke with some friends and ended up being pretty kitten amazing. Ranger is beast in skilled hands.
As much as one ranger can speed up a CoF p1 run by bringing spotter and frost spirit boosting the dps of the 4 other members, their own personal dps being not really all that great I don’t think you even know the meaning of “wrecking the place” if you felt a 5 ranger run was one of your fastest. Your head would probably explode if you had a good thief in your party.
- “No tears, please. It’s a waste of good suffering.”
As much as one ranger can speed up a CoF p1 run by bringing spotter and frost spirit boosting the dps of the 4 other members, their own personal dps being not really all that great I don’t think you even know the meaning of “wrecking the place” if you felt a 5 ranger run was one of your fastest. Your head would probably explode if you had a good thief in your party.
I main a thief and 2 of my 10 80s are thieves. I know plenty about them so don’t be condescending please. And yes 5 Rangers was an awesome run and saying that would take two hours is stupid and rediculous.
The other issue that I want to bring up that applies often with the deeply-loathed bearbow pugs is the fact that often times in Arah, for example, their stupid pets can aggro elite mobs. “It’s on passive” pssh.
Pets won’t aggro anything that the ranger itself hasn’t aggroed.
Are you certain? What about if for example, an orrian turret shot the ranger and as the ranger ran away, an elite risen walked right up to where the turret was when the bear pet lunged to retaliate on the turret. If the bear attacked, would it have the possibility of hitting both by accident? I could see some crap like that happening.
If the pet is set on passive it will sit there and ignore the turret hits until it’s dead. And only pets that can cleave are drakes.
so could some1 explain properly how a ranger would deal more or better sustained dps than a warrior or guardian or thief within a 10 seconds timeframe? that would be great.
I don’t think that’s how sustained works.
edit: and it doesn’t matter either way. you bring warrior for banner (and ea). you bring ranger for spotter/spirit.
Well it does matter, if the boss dies within a burst phase of 5-10 seconds the chunk of damage that is guard burst dps minus ranger dps might pull ahead of the chunk group dps with spotter+frostspirit minus group dps without those. Might not be the case for guards and warriors within 10 seconds, but maybe for ele.
As much as one ranger can speed up a CoF p1 run by bringing spotter and frost spirit boosting the dps of the 4 other members, their own personal dps being not really all that great I don’t think you even know the meaning of “wrecking the place” if you felt a 5 ranger run was one of your fastest. Your head would probably explode if you had a good thief in your party.
I main a thief and 2 of my 10 80s are thieves. I know plenty about them so don’t be condescending please. And yes 5 Rangers was an awesome run and saying that would take two hours is stupid and rediculous.
he didn’t say that 5 rangers would take 2 hours. he is, however, completely right that changing classes would do nothing but improve the team DPS. adding almost any class over more rangers would make the run faster – warrior would bring banners/EA/superior damage, thief would bring damage, ele would bring damage…….
5 rangers is in no way a good composition. sure, you can probably do better runs than PUGs in a good full dps 5 ranger party, but what class wouldn’t be able to (other than engi/necro/mes)?