Guild Wars 2

Sounds good
Yeah we’re all wrong
Sorry
Cya

Trevor Boyer.6524:

In most forums as they age
Devs or GMS or w/e they are called specific to that forum
All eventually use alternative accounts to post and comment
This avoids direct aggression toward company representation
And allows them to say to you what they REALLY want to say

Every conversation in this forum concerning ANet’s handling of dungeons is full of the most absolute pessimism and negativity I’ve ever seen when it comes to dungeon development. I can’t remember the last time anyone said anything hopeful about the future of dungeons during a discussion.

I really hope there aren’t employees participating in those conversations. That’d be more depressing than the silence. :-(

Let’s hope stacking/skipping is nerfed
Dungeons will be much better
No more Berserker Elitism

At least I support all of their recent changes (excluding bugs of course).

Spider Queen best change. Err.

She should come into melee range by herself or her immobilize attack’s range should be increased to 1200.

Ofcourse now you zerkers exploit ranged attacks. This is why we cant have good things.

Lucas.9157:

Let’s hope stacking/skipping is nerfed
Dungeons will be much better
No more Berserker Elitism

I agree
And I hope some devs will read this.
That I’m against being kicked from parties and insulted
only because I play pigpigboarbow.
I must be able to play how I want.
Obv whoever doesn’t agree with me doesn’t have enough experience
To actually give an opinion on what I said
So I’ll avoid discussing it further to prevent going off-topic.

downed state tank it :>

That trinity action made me laugh a lot. Was this post or pre patch? I haven’t noticed any poison fields. Also, shibayan is life.

This was pre-patch, haha.

I think that was a little after AC got revamped.

edit: Shibayan IS life. :>

DeSade
Come to NA. We’re doing anti-elitist runs. Last time we triple stacked wars (colesy was one, casual confirmed)

Lucas.9157:

DeSade
Come to NA. We’re doing anti-elitist runs. Last time we triple stacked wars (colesy was one, casual confirmed)

He won’t. Not even for me. QQ life not worth living.

Stacking is so cute.

Well, you could come to EU. I’d lag too much on NA and I have way too many people that need me… Imagine poor spoj or commander tequila blessing without me.

I should test someday the connection from here (third world, ninth circle) to EU, on NA I don’t lag too much but get contantly DC’ed.

At least the food here is better.

Can’ìt be better than here…

Yeah i doubt you have better food over there.

deSade.9437:

Can’ìt be better than here…

I believe that.

<3

Lilith Ajit.6173:

deSade.9437:

Can’ìt be better than here…

I believe that.

<3

<3

Brazil took the best food around the world (thankfully ignoring the terrible hispanic cuisine) and improved it (my international friends come here and confirm this).
It’s one of the few reasons I couldn’t stand living in the US lol

Oh I do have a pretty long list…

Trevor Boyer.6524:

stachekiller.2591:

I actually don’t think this encourages elitism. I think it helps people new to dungeons be forced to learn some mechanics. I went with two casual groups yesterday and cleared the spider queen in about the same time as before with no wipes because we went in together to clear the gargoyles and then people actually saw the spider queen AOE on the ground and dodged out of it. I think this has the potential to make players better overall by forcing them to learn a core mechanic. “Elitists” might try to stick to the old way of doing it and FGS the thing in that corner, but to the credit of the PUGs I played with they adapted quickly and successfully. Once enough people run through it I doubt the elitist mindset your guildie had above will really resonate.

It does nothing BUT encourage elitism
Remember that elitism is not about player skill/experience or wisdom
Elitism is about what you’re wearing, if you can afford it and if you’re using meta

It does nothing BUT encourage elitism
Now in PUGs, you won’t be accepted unless you are using a perfect serk meta in AC
Because people want to complete the dungeon run in 15 minutes, not 45 minutes
No one has time, nor would they want, to dance around The Spider Queen
For 20 to 30 minutes, while wearing Cleric’s gear, before killing it
Especially when considering the grind required to build ascended gear

And again, this is supposed to be the introduction dungeon
The first dungeon in the game, able to be completed with level 35 characters

Changes like this are bad because they eliminate a middle ground difficulty mode
You essentially go from “easy explorable maps”
To “UBER hard required level 80 ascended Berserker mode”
There are no middle ground stepping stones for new/casual players
To learn and build wealth, to prepare for such challenges

People want meta builds in berserker gear for experienced, speed run groups. If they’re advertising for a specific type of player, and you don’t meet that requirement, don’t join. It’s that simple. People have as much right to choose the type of group they want and who’s in it just like you do when you start your own group. It also helps to read the description of a LFG posting but that’s an entirely separate issue.

Most people who have solo’d spider queen have done so in under 5 minutes. If it takes longer to do that in a pug group then something is seriously wrong. It’s also the reason now that, if I do pug, I host and go ahead and solo her first so I don’t have to deal with pugs failing because they don’t realize standing in red circles is bad and/or bring condition removal.

I suppose I could solo her naked for you and post a video of it but I’m sure people have done that before already to prove how ridiculously easy she is and how boring and predictable her attacks are. In fact, I say she is perfect for pugs and new players since they can learn to anticipate attacks and avoid them.

The level of a dungeon does not dictate the difficulty of a dungeon. I’ve seen more failures on CM than I have for CoF and CoE (kind of surprised at that one). The rewards are also primarily for level 80 players. Sure there are rares but by the time you can equipment a set, they’re obsolete.

Yada Yada, again missing the point

It isn’t about how hard or easy the spider queen is
It’s that it is ALWAYS most convenient to wear pure DPS, in all situations

Trevor Boyer.6524:

Yada Yada, again missing the point

It isn’t about how hard or easy the spider queen is
It’s that it is ALWAYS most convenient to wear pure DPS, in all situations

My dear Trevor,

While I do conceive that for you it may actually be hard to understand, I’ll go over it again. If you need to kill an ennemy, you are bound to do more efficiently if you bring something to deal damage to it. In GW2 that’s berserker gear going along with damage oriented builds offering necesary support. We call it the meta as it represents the maximal efficiency (#stigma) achievable. Please learn your lesson.

Sincerely,
Captain Obvious.

Trevor Boyer.6524:

Yada Yada, again missing the point

It isn’t about how hard or easy the spider queen is
It’s that it is ALWAYS most convenient to wear pure DPS, in all situations

more defensive stats, less damage
less defensive stats, more damage

sounds fine to me

except the less damage part doesn t work due 1hko mechanics.

1hko mechanics like what? there’s hardly any in this game.

Every boss is now Crusher.

You can tank even Crusher.

Deadeye from >1200 range then.

haviz.1340:

Deadeye from >1200 range then.

Waitwaitwait….. uhhhhhh

Dwayna!

(( DWAAAAAAYYYNNNAAA!!!! )))

she ha this thing that ( if you some how manage to kittening see it through the god kitten partical effects of the 80 people pressing one around you )) will insta down you…

uhh….

Clockheart with its stacks?

uhhh…..

i got nothing….

Dead Eye OP.

Dwayna doesnt 1 shot unfortunately. Atleast not on those pvt players.

spoj.9672:

Dwayna doesnt 1 shot unfortunately. Atleast not on those pvt players.

… -.-

……………

DEADEYE OP!

:)

Now you know why everyone skips them.

Bears can tank deadeyes on 2k range.

Bears have >50k hp.

Necros can get to over 60k.

Necro OP then.

Exactly my speech.

maha.7902:

1hko mechanics like what? there’s hardly any in this game.

I’m always curious why people say there are 1hko mechanics in GW2 dungeons when like I don’t know of any if you are running like full tank gear + traits :/ . Guess people are playing like a different game or something

2 hits yes 1 hit not that I can recall.

Or perhaps people mean 1 skill ko then hell yes atleast on my zerker ele.

Nightmares about the birds from hotw story mode
Horn
dodge
Horn
dodge
Horn
kittenUUUUUU

DonQuack.9025:

2 hits yes 1 hit not that I can recall.

Or perhaps people mean 1 skill ko then hell yes atleast on my zerker ele.

Nightmares about the birds from hotw story mode
Horn
dodge
Horn
dodge
Horn
kittenUUUUUU

But the dude said less damage doesn’t apply for people wearing tanky gear since there are 1hko mechanics against even tanky people like full PTV + traits. Which honestly is untrue.

CuRtoKy.8576:

But the dude said less damage doesn’t apply for people wearing tanky gear since there are 1hko mechanics against even tanky people like full PTV + traits. Which honestly is untrue.

Oh yea agreed I dont recall being ohk’d by anything back when I thought AH guard was baller for dungeons.