I used to do fractal 50 and I get a good number of Shards of Coagulated Mists Essence, but now I am getting globs and vials of this stuff when doing level below 40. I would like to know what level fractals when you start seeing mobs drop shards of this stuff… Also, I would like to know how can you get ascended weapon/armor chest now? Thanks.
The ascended chest drop rates have not merely been “decreased,” which implies something reasonable might have happened. No, they are less than one tenth of what they used to be. A much more extreme word is warranted. Like “obliterated,” or “nearly eliminated.”
To add my limited input, I’ve been running fracs with a near-static group since ner—xpac with up to 15 fracs per day, climbing to 100; done all dailies (all of em) and been doing them since day 2… I suck at math but that means quite a lot of dailies among the 5 of us.
I’m the only one that got a weapon box.
Oh, and it was in a CASUAL daily crate, and it was after we got to 100.
From my experience, yes, daily chests are the only ones that have a chance at giving you anything, an extremely low chance, and your personal level matters absolutely 0. Think about it if you wanna climb to 100, since it’s meaningless unless you do it for the hell of it. As we did. ’cause what else can we do, right?
I used to do fractal 50 and I get a good number of Shards of Coagulated Mists Essence, but now I am getting globs and vials of this stuff when doing level below 40. I would like to know what level fractals when you start seeing mobs drop shards of this stuff… Also, I would like to know how can you get ascended weapon/armor chest now? Thanks.
For the vials/globs/shards, in keeping with the changes to when agony damage starts, the new drop zones are:
Vials: 1-30
Globs: 31-49
Shards: 50+
Rev, Ele, Burnzerker
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I’ve gotten an ascended ring (including infused) most days that I do all of the dailies (a majority of the days since the xpac dropped), although the last two days I have gotten an ascended weapon and armor box instead. The boxes don’t seem that much rarer than before, to me at least.
I’ve gotten an ascended ring (including infused) most days that I do all of the dailies (a majority of the days since the xpac dropped), although the last two days I have gotten an ascended weapon and armor box instead. The boxes don’t seem that much rarer than before, to me at least.
I’ve gotten a 5 or 6 ascended rings, two of which were infused, but no one has been reporting ascended weapons and armor. Do you have a screenshot? Because if that is the case I’d like to post it all over the whining forum posts and tell them to deal with it
Rev, Ele, Burnzerker
“Beware he who would deny you access to information,
for in his heart he dreams himself your master.”
I’ve gotten an ascended ring (including infused) most days that I do all of the dailies (a majority of the days since the xpac dropped), although the last two days I have gotten an ascended weapon and armor box instead. The boxes don’t seem that much rarer than before, to me at least.
I’ve gotten a 5 or 6 ascended rings, two of which were infused, but no one has been reporting ascended weapons and armor. Do you have a screenshot? Because if that is the case I’d like to post it all over the whining forum posts and tell them to deal with it
simply that they drop isnt the point, its that the drop rate was hit so so hard and that drop rate was one of the big reasons that a lot of people ran high level fractals before. One of the big reasons people ran dungeons was gold which they nerfed as well. It appears that they are also trying to disincentivize fractals by nerfing one of the big draws to that content?
I’ve gotten an ascended ring (including infused) most days that I do all of the dailies (a majority of the days since the xpac dropped), although the last two days I have gotten an ascended weapon and armor box instead. The boxes don’t seem that much rarer than before, to me at least.
I’ve gotten a 5 or 6 ascended rings, two of which were infused, but no one has been reporting ascended weapons and armor. Do you have a screenshot? Because if that is the case I’d like to post it all over the whining forum posts and tell them to deal with it
simply that they drop isnt the point, its that the drop rate was hit so so hard and that drop rate was one of the big reasons that a lot of people ran high level fractals before. One of the big reasons people ran dungeons was gold which they nerfed as well. It appears that they are also trying to disincentivize fractals by nerfing one of the big draws to that content?
Well…yeah. They are adding raids which have been stated to have a 15% chance drop rate for an ascended box per boss (so ~2 group members will get ascended loot per boss per week). Even at it’s height, fractals were nowhere near that rate. They want people to do the hardest content for the best loot, i.e. raids (though I do think having the highest level fractals have a better drop chance would be in keeping with that but Anet made its decision).
Their entire strategy has been to guide people to the new content rather than the old content. I’ve seen a lot of people on the forums complaining that they are trying to force people away from old content, but what’s the point of new content if no one plays it?
Rev, Ele, Burnzerker
“Beware he who would deny you access to information,
for in his heart he dreams himself your master.”
raids which have been stated to have a 15% chance drop rate for an ascended box per boss (so ~2 group members will get ascended loot per boss per week). Even at it’s height, fractals were nowhere near that rate.
I just looked up KING’s droprate research. I’m seeing 4.2% weapon, 11.9% armor, 11.7% skin.
Now, you can definitely argue that a Fractal 50 takes a lot longer than a raid boss – or at least once people figure all them out and start farming them – but let’s not be misleading about the droprates in Fractals.
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raids which have been stated to have a 15% chance drop rate for an ascended box per boss (so ~2 group members will get ascended loot per boss per week). Even at it’s height, fractals were nowhere near that rate.
I just looked up KING’s droprate research. I’m seeing 4.2% weapon, 11.9% armor, 11.7% skin.
Now, you can definitely argue that a Fractal 50 takes a lot longer than a raid boss – or at least once people figure all them out and start farming them – but let’s not be misleading about the droprates in Fractals.
I thought Anet had said 15%, but 4.2% and 11.9% are significantly higher than anywhere else in the game so my point still stands. That said, how did he do his droprate research? May I see the link?
EDIT: I thought you were talking about raids, but KING’s research is for fractals. If the 15% is for raids, my point still stands in that raids have the highest drop chance in the game up until now.
Rev, Ele, Burnzerker
“Beware he who would deny you access to information,
for in his heart he dreams himself your master.”
raids which have been stated to have a 15% chance drop rate for an ascended box per boss (so ~2 group members will get ascended loot per boss per week). Even at it’s height, fractals were nowhere near that rate.
I just looked up KING’s droprate research. I’m seeing 4.2% weapon, 11.9% armor, 11.7% skin.
Now, you can definitely argue that a Fractal 50 takes a lot longer than a raid boss – or at least once people figure all them out and start farming them – but let’s not be misleading about the droprates in Fractals.
I thought Anet had said 15%, but 4.2% and 11.9% are significantly higher than anywhere else in the game so my point still stands. That said, how did he do his droprate research? May I see the link?
EDIT: I thought you were talking about raids, but KING’s research is for fractals. If the 15% is for raids, my point still stands in that raids have the highest drop chance in the game up until now.
FRACTALS had 4.2/11.9%. That means FRACTALS had 16%. If raids have 15%, that’d basically be in line with old Fractals.
I’ve gotten a 5 or 6 ascended rings, two of which were infused, but no one has been reporting ascended weapons and armor. Do you have a screenshot? Because if that is the case I’d like to post it all over the whining forum posts and tell them to deal with it
I claimed and salvaged the weapon for the Ball of Dark Engery for my first tier collection, and the only reason I still have this one is because I haven’t decided if I want to use it for my other main or to salvage this one too.
Not all ascended drops were nerfed guys.
I got at least 5 rings, maybe more, from daily chests.
Stay positive
Rings are basically a dime a dozen before HoT. Now I am getting more of this useless stuff especially from bonus chests. Most people go to Fractals to get a ascended armor, weapon, weapon skin or even an endless fractal potion.
raids which have been stated to have a 15% chance drop rate for an ascended box per boss (so ~2 group members will get ascended loot per boss per week). Even at it’s height, fractals were nowhere near that rate.
I just looked up KING’s droprate research. I’m seeing 4.2% weapon, 11.9% armor, 11.7% skin.
Now, you can definitely argue that a Fractal 50 takes a lot longer than a raid boss – or at least once people figure all them out and start farming them – but let’s not be misleading about the droprates in Fractals.
I thought Anet had said 15%, but 4.2% and 11.9% are significantly higher than anywhere else in the game so my point still stands. That said, how did he do his droprate research? May I see the link?
EDIT: I thought you were talking about raids, but KING’s research is for fractals. If the 15% is for raids, my point still stands in that raids have the highest drop chance in the game up until now.
FRACTALS had 4.2/11.9%. That means FRACTALS had 16%. If raids have 15%, that’d basically be in line with old Fractals.
raids which have been stated to have a 15% chance drop rate for an ascended box per boss (so ~2 group members will get ascended loot per boss per week). Even at it’s height, fractals were nowhere near that rate.
I just looked up KING’s droprate research. I’m seeing 4.2% weapon, 11.9% armor, 11.7% skin.
Now, you can definitely argue that a Fractal 50 takes a lot longer than a raid boss – or at least once people figure all them out and start farming them – but let’s not be misleading about the droprates in Fractals.
I thought Anet had said 15%, but 4.2% and 11.9% are significantly higher than anywhere else in the game so my point still stands. That said, how did he do his droprate research? May I see the link?
EDIT: I thought you were talking about raids, but KING’s research is for fractals. If the 15% is for raids, my point still stands in that raids have the highest drop chance in the game up until now.
FRACTALS had 4.2/11.9%. That means FRACTALS had 16%. If raids have 15%, that’d basically be in line with old Fractals.
Well…yeah. They are adding raids which have been stated to have a 15% chance drop rate for an ascended box per boss (so ~2 group members will get ascended loot per boss per week). Even at it’s height, fractals were nowhere near that rate.
This is, frankly, extremely wrong.
Fractals gave a 31.6% chance every day if you did 50/40/30/20. A single 15% chance once per week can’t even come close to comparing.
It’s possible that the completion rate (elapsed completion time/successive completions) for Fractals post-HOT is something Anet is gathering data on before throwing ascended back into the reward system at the same rate as before. Think about it, if Ascended were rewarded now at the same rates as before for 40-50+ range fractals, the effect would be a significant increase in the amount of fractal gear being awarded for comparatively easier fractal runs. Fractals are very, very accessible right now. And it wouldn’t be out of the question to run multiple high level fractals in succession for significantly higher gains than before. I don’t think that would be an intended outcome of the fractal change.
I feel like what we should be asking is:
Do we like the reward system now?
Do we like consistent guaranteed rewards at the end of every fractal (fractal encryptions, agony resistance)?
Do we want ascended drop rates that are greater, less than, equal to before?
*on the “less than”option, some players do believe that balance of rewards should be based on a number of factors including difficulty, and therefore may opt to lower the reward of certain content if it seems to pay out significantly more than the effort put in.
Personally, I’m not sure how they could justify increasing fractal drop rates to what they were before in the 40-50 range given how much quicker and easier they are now. They may increase it for the much higher levels based on the timetables some people have claimed for completion. But, I’m sure Anet is listening to the complaints but also has some internal metric on player Ascended gear acquisition rates that they are trying to balance out.
It’s possible that the completion rate (elapsed completion time/successive completions) for Fractals post-HOT is something Anet is gathering data on before throwing ascended back into the reward system at the same rate as before. Think about it, if Ascended were rewarded now at the same rates as before for 40-50+ range fractals, the effect would be a significant increase in the amount of fractal gear being awarded for comparatively easier fractal runs. Fractals are very, very accessible right now. And it wouldn’t be out of the question to run multiple high level fractals in succession for significantly higher gains than before. I don’t think that would be an intended outcome of the fractal change.
I feel like what we should be asking is:
Do we like the reward system now?
Do we like consistent guaranteed rewards at the end of every fractal (fractal encryptions, agony resistance)?
Do we want ascended drop rates that are greater, less than, equal to before?
*on the “less than”option, some players do believe that balance of rewards should be based on a number of factors including difficulty, and therefore may opt to lower the reward of certain content if it seems to pay out significantly more than the effort put in.
Personally, I’m not sure how they could justify increasing fractal drop rates to what they were before in the 40-50 range given how much quicker and easier they are now. They may increase it for the much higher levels based on the timetables some people have claimed for completion. But, I’m sure Anet is listening to the complaints but also has some internal metric on player Ascended gear acquisition rates that they are trying to balance out.
I think a great follow-up question to that is not just internal, but external. How many options does Anet want people to have access to Ascended gear in? If Anet only wants X amount of ascended pieces entering players bags each, for example, week, how does the Fractals chance balance with the raids chances?
Rev, Ele, Burnzerker
“Beware he who would deny you access to information,
for in his heart he dreams himself your master.”
raids which have been stated to have a 15% chance drop rate for an ascended box per boss (so ~2 group members will get ascended loot per boss per week). Even at it’s height, fractals were nowhere near that rate.
I just looked up KING’s droprate research. I’m seeing 4.2% weapon, 11.9% armor, 11.7% skin.
Now, you can definitely argue that a Fractal 50 takes a lot longer than a raid boss – or at least once people figure all them out and start farming them – but let’s not be misleading about the droprates in Fractals.
I don’t think you are reading that properly. Armor and weapons are all well below 2% in that data, with weapon boxes topping out at 0.3%. 4.2% is for golden weapon skins, not ascended weapons and 11.9% isn’t even in the table… maybe you are looking at the ring droprate?
In all seriousness, hidden update? We will never know.
The drought doesn’t look dead at all. Only 5 ascended boxes out of 742 daily chests. That’s only one more than last time I looked. No, it is still in full force.
I don’t think you are reading that properly. Armor and weapons are all well below 2% in that data, with weapon boxes topping out at 0.3%. 4.2% is for golden weapon skins, not ascended weapons and 11.9% isn’t even in the table… maybe you are looking at the ring droprate?
You are looking at the wrong tab. Make sure you are looking at the Pre-23/10/2015 data, not current drop rates. That horrible 0.3% number you quoted is how things are now. Compare that to how it used to be and cry.
The drought doesn’t look dead at all. Only 5 ascended boxes out of 742 daily chests. That’s only one more than last time I looked. No, it is still in full force.
I was more so joking about the fact that we finally have a record of ascended dropping from the highest level chest. I’ve been watching this update each night, and waiting to see when we would see the first.
If I wanted to be forced into raiding, I’d be playing WoW instead. One of the greatest appeals of GW2 was the continued relevance of 5-man content. With that gone, I will be too once I finish the HoT story.
I was more so joking about the fact that we finally have a record of ascended dropping from the highest level chest. I’ve been watching this update each night, and waiting to see when we would see the first.
They aren’t much quicker are they?
You still need to do 3 for the “daily” chest.
Yes yes you can go all 3 swamp or whatever but it honestly doesn’t seem much faster, especially with the kittening kittened instabilities.
raids which have been stated to have a 15% chance drop rate for an ascended box per boss (so ~2 group members will get ascended loot per boss per week). Even at it’s height, fractals were nowhere near that rate.
I just looked up KING’s droprate research. I’m seeing 4.2% weapon, 11.9% armor, 11.7% skin.
Now, you can definitely argue that a Fractal 50 takes a lot longer than a raid boss – or at least once people figure all them out and start farming them – but let’s not be misleading about the droprates in Fractals.
I thought Anet had said 15%, but 4.2% and 11.9% are significantly higher than anywhere else in the game so my point still stands. That said, how did he do his droprate research? May I see the link?
EDIT: I thought you were talking about raids, but KING’s research is for fractals. If the 15% is for raids, my point still stands in that raids have the highest drop chance in the game up until now.
FRACTALS had 4.2/11.9%. That means FRACTALS had 16%. If raids have 15%, that’d basically be in line with old Fractals.
I think a great follow-up question to that is not just internal, but external. How many options does Anet want people to have access to Ascended gear in? If Anet only wants X amount of ascended pieces entering players bags each, for example, week, how does the Fractals chance balance with the raids chances?
If a given set of players are in raids at a given time and getting loot, they are necessarily NOT in fractals getting loot. And we are talking about account bound loot, not farmable currency creation like dungeons was.
