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Posted by: Guanglai Kangyi.4318

Guanglai Kangyi.4318

Simple solution to all the complaints: remove dungeons, add “fun-geons”.

GW2 is a play-how-you-want game but dungeons are designed for elitists to exclude people. Therefore, all dungeon mechanics need to be reworked to:

- Mobs no longer take damage from attacks. Instead, they lose health automatically over time. They also lose more health the further away players are from them. This will discourage the “zerk only” stacking meta by enabling players to play how they want, with any build, at any range.

- Mobs no longer deal damage. Instead, players either take steady damage over time, reduced by armor, when near mobs. Dodging will negate this effect for 10 seconds. This will give players a meaningful choice as to whether or not to dodge instead of making dodging mandatory (yes, there’s a guy on reddit right now complaining that dungeons force him to dodge when he doesn’t want to).

- Doors will not open until all mobs in the preceding area have been cleared. This is to prevent skipping, obviously.

- Dungeons no longer give rewards. This is to discourage players from “farming” dungeons instead of doing them for fun, the way they were meant to be played.

- Party members cannot be kicked once they join the party. This is prevent elitists from kicking people for playing how they want. If a party wants to kick a member, they must submit a ticket to Anet detailing the reasons for the requested kick to be reviewed by a GM. This will be made feasible by the fact that most dungeons will take, at minimum, approximately two hours to complete per run.

I think I speak for everyone (but the elitist speedrunning zerk stacksploiters) when i say this would vastly improve the dungeon experience.

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Posted by: Scorpion Over Lord.9036

Scorpion Over Lord.9036

Good idea, but i do feel you left out some stuff needed for the bingo unless you added the things only you needed to win…or am i late on this topic rendering my comment moot?

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Posted by: TurtleDragon.3108

TurtleDragon.3108

but but… what about the stacking exploit, I don’t like it when other people do it!

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Posted by: deSade.9437

deSade.9437

Buff healers.
Nerf warriors.
Yolo.

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Posted by: Ariete The Phoenix.8276

Ariete The Phoenix.8276

Buff Warriors party healing abilities in dungeons only.
Delete Thief, yeah, everyone hate those guys.
Put some lions in the dungeon, make sure they are hungry, this will encourage players to keep moving.
Add some of those chickens from ebonhawke in dungeons.

Also known as Liahm Lee

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Posted by: Gyler.8150

Gyler.8150

Condition damage scales with toughness, vitality and healing power now while in fungeons.

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Posted by: Oxxy.7068

Oxxy.7068

Buff Warriors party healing abilities in dungeons only.
Delete Thief, yeah, everyone hate those guys.
Put some lions in the dungeon, make sure they are hungry, this will encourage players to keep moving.
Add some of those chickens from ebonhawke in dungeons.

The chicken change totally counter the lions, though.

Luminifera ~ Guardian – Trisha Blackhands ~ Thief – Hua Yue ~ Elementalist.

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

I laughed and then I cried.

[ARES]
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Our blood has bought their lives.

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Posted by: KaboomzZz.2914

KaboomzZz.2914

I think you confused fun-geon with fun-gone.
…and hellboar said he wants some funyuns.

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Posted by: Tachii.3506

Tachii.3506

The definition of fun in my opinion is trying new things. Doing the same repetitive task everyday for years will get boring quickly. There need to be some small variation. Right now the only variation from doing the same dungeons everyday is the potential loot of exotics, and that drops maybe on a weekly basis only.

That said, I still find FOTM somewhat interesting. The small variation is there, and I don’t do it daily so it’s still somewhat refreshing. But currently with the rumors that the rewards are nerfed I now lack incentive to do it as well as having people in my time slot to do it with.

SBI – Thief and the occasional Guardian & Warrior.

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Posted by: xallever.1874

xallever.1874

Okay, how about you remove ping gear? I don’t know why people do that.

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Posted by: ArmageddonScr.7234

ArmageddonScr.7234

(yes, there’s a guy on reddit right now complaining that dungeons force him to dodge when he doesn’t want to).

Hah, now this I gotta see.

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Posted by: XacTactX.6709

XacTactX.6709

Guang 2016

Anet likely didn’t want to remove the armor stats entirely because…well,
we’ve all seen what happens in games where there’s no disadvantage to taking your pants off.

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Posted by: xallever.1874

xallever.1874

The definition of fun in my opinion is trying new things. Doing the same repetitive task everyday for years will get boring quickly. There need to be some small variation. Right now the only variation from doing the same dungeons everyday is the potential loot of exotics, and that drops maybe on a weekly basis only.

That said, I still find FOTM somewhat interesting. The small variation is there, and I don’t do it daily so it’s still somewhat refreshing. But currently with the rumors that the rewards are nerfed I now lack incentive to do it as well as having people in my time slot to do it with.

Before you do any dungeons… roll a dice! Keep rolling until you get the number that you want before you can enter the said dungeon! From then on, it’s the dice that has the final say!

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Posted by: Tachii.3506

Tachii.3506

Might not be a bad idea actually. With limited time, I’ll roll a dice and what dungeons I get to do next, with Arah and Aetherblade that will seldom get the dice roll. Mhm.

(Too much effort though lol)

SBI – Thief and the occasional Guardian & Warrior.

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Posted by: Ecole.2349

Ecole.2349

- Doors will not open until all mobs in the preceding area have been cleared. This is to prevent skipping, obviously. This should be a thing anyhow. I can’t count the times I’ve been booted for wanting to run the dungeon properly, there are people out there that are 100% convinced the devs make content that is supposed to be skipped. I weep for the lfg T_T

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Posted by: FenrirSlakt.3692

FenrirSlakt.3692

- Doors will not open until all mobs in the preceding area have been cleared. This is to prevent skipping, obviously. This should be a thing anyhow. I can’t count the times I’ve been booted for wanting to run the dungeon properly, there are people out there that are 100% convinced the devs make content that is supposed to be skipped. I weep for the lfg T_T

Hahaha! You’re kidding right?

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Posted by: Lucas.9157

Lucas.9157

When you try to remove bingo posts from the forum, they come yet stronger.

Anet pls nerf this undodgeable silly mechanic.

EDIT: not talking about you OP. Topic is fine and fun

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Posted by: maxinion.8396

maxinion.8396

- Doors will not open until all mobs in the preceding area have been cleared. This is to prevent skipping, obviously. This should be a thing anyhow. I can’t count the times I’ve been booted for wanting to run the dungeon properly, there are people out there that are 100% convinced the devs make content that is supposed to be skipped. I weep for the lfg T_T

rofl

do you even know where you’re posting

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Posted by: Tachii.3506

Tachii.3506

To a lesser extent I think they should make Kholer at least a non-skippable boss. The fight after the April update is now even easier due to the ferocity changes and hitting everything harder in low level dungeons as a lv80. Alas it most likely won’t happen, so now I just have to write “kholer pls” after the Spider Queen if the party got the deeps. Just got 2 rares today in today’s run in one path. :>

SBI – Thief and the occasional Guardian & Warrior.

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Posted by: Star Ace.5207

Star Ace.5207

Not funny-you also forgot to note that there are PuGs who think they are “meta” and think they are actually speedrunning when they aren’t, and others are actually abusive/bullies who also don’t read and join groups that meant to run casually and then expect them to do a speedrun. A thread about making “the jerk-geon” would still be as inappropriate as this one, nevertheless.

Not meant to take away your “fun”, but mocking others-especially people you don’t know nothing at all and that you are simply generalizing about-isn’t fun at all. I certainly don’t mock or belittle anyone for playing differently than I do-you have the right to be “efficient”, and they have the right to take their time (which has nothing to do with the absurd, cited “two hours minimum” run.)

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Posted by: Ephemeral.5409

Ephemeral.5409

Also, role play must be present in every single dungeon run. Not adhering to this will result in a perma ban with no appeal.

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Posted by: maxinion.8396

maxinion.8396

Also, role play must be present in every single dungeon run. Not adhering to this will result in a perma ban with no appeal.

#LilithRules2014

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Posted by: Dalanor.5387

Dalanor.5387

Also, role play must be present in every single dungeon run. Not adhering to this will result in a perma ban with no appeal.

No run, walk only?

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

Also, role play must be present in every single dungeon run. Not adhering to this will result in a perma ban with no appeal.

No run, walk only?

Backwards. To give a chance for mobs when you kite.

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Posted by: Nilkemia.8507

Nilkemia.8507

“It’s a faaaaaaake!”

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

Also, role play must be present in every single dungeon run. Not adhering to this will result in a perma ban with no appeal.

#LilithRules2014

#LilithRulesEternity

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Posted by: stachekiller.2591

stachekiller.2591

- Every dungeon will now cause perma-chill to slow down movements and attacks and make sure that dungeons take as long as the designers intended.

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Posted by: maxinion.8396

maxinion.8396

Also, role play must be present in every single dungeon run. Not adhering to this will result in a perma ban with no appeal.

#LilithRules2014

#LilithRulesEternity

how can an asura look down on me, didn’t know this was possible

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Posted by: Lilith Ajit.6173

Lilith Ajit.6173

Also, role play must be present in every single dungeon run. Not adhering to this will result in a perma ban with no appeal.

#LilithRules2014

#LilithRulesEternity

how can an asura look down on me, didn’t know this was possible

Lilith rules. Duh. Haha

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Posted by: Rangersix.1754

Rangersix.1754

I just want the dungeon to give me the rewards the second I step through the portal. Why are you people forcing me to play a certain way?! I play the way I want!

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Posted by: Ram Banson.4081

Ram Banson.4081

does someone have a link from the reddit guy complaining about he being forced to dodge?!?!
i want to read this so bad xD

Blùb [LuPi]

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

does someone have a link from the reddit guy complaining about he being forced to dodge?!?!
i want to read this so bad xD

plz provide sauce

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Posted by: Darox.8069

Darox.8069

Dude! You are much better at jokes than you are at maths

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Posted by: Laar.5476

Laar.5476

Wow, that is gold.

I want a dungeon where I don’t have to attack anything to kill it; Anet needs to support my play style.

#fungeon2014

Edit: On second thought I want Mass Effect style romance options for all mobs in the dungeon so I can have a love triangle between Lupi, the Jotun and myself. Then in path 2 I finally give one of them the cold shoulder and live PG13 happily ever after on a spaceship, until I get a terrible ending in path 3.

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Posted by: hendo.1940

hendo.1940

Is path 3 the green path?

Rezardi – [DnT]
Game over, yo.

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Posted by: Laar.5476

Laar.5476

Is path 3 the green path?

If it were the green ending, would that be a synthesis of player and boss, player and trash mobs, or player and dungeon fungeon?

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Posted by: Tman.6349

Tman.6349

Simple solution to all the complaints: remove dungeons, add “fun-geons”.

GW2 is a play-how-you-want game but dungeons are designed for elitists to exclude people. Therefore, all dungeon mechanics need to be reworked to:

- Mobs no longer take damage from attacks. Instead, they lose health automatically over time. They also lose more health the further away players are from them. This will discourage the “zerk only” stacking meta by enabling players to play how they want, with any build, at any range.

- Mobs no longer deal damage. Instead, players either take steady damage over time, reduced by armor, when near mobs. Dodging will negate this effect for 10 seconds. This will give players a meaningful choice as to whether or not to dodge instead of making dodging mandatory (yes, there’s a guy on reddit right now complaining that dungeons force him to dodge when he doesn’t want to).

- Doors will not open until all mobs in the preceding area have been cleared. This is to prevent skipping, obviously.

- Dungeons no longer give rewards. This is to discourage players from “farming” dungeons instead of doing them for fun, the way they were meant to be played.

- Party members cannot be kicked once they join the party. This is prevent elitists from kicking people for playing how they want. If a party wants to kick a member, they must submit a ticket to Anet detailing the reasons for the requested kick to be reviewed by a GM. This will be made feasible by the fact that most dungeons will take, at minimum, approximately two hours to complete per run.

I think I speak for everyone (but the elitist speedrunning zerk stacksploiters) when i say this would vastly improve the dungeon experience.

“LFG Signet of the Hunt Cleric Bearbows only”. Guys, we are finally on the cusp of ‘build diversity’! I hope you are all as excited as I am!

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Posted by: kuittaa.7360

kuittaa.7360

Fungeons should be pink and cloudy and marshmallow-like.

Pinkish marshmallow might be OP though.