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Posted by: Estriella Faerie.4029

Estriella Faerie.4029

More than six month ago, Robert Hrouda posted on the forums that the cap that was put on fractals was because we didn’t have enough AR for it yet. His exact words were:

It was never intended that you could get higher without further AR gear that has not yet been released. […] Each new piece of AR gear is meant to allow you to progress to further fractal levels, which have increasingly better rewards compounding with higher scaling difficulty.

Since then, we got many new pieces of AR: amulets, earrings and now weapons. Yet, there’s still nothing said about finally letting us go to the fractals at level 50+, even though we now have almost twice the AR we had back then…

Having this content capped, doing the same levels we were doing back then, for so many month, is quite long, and I know quite a few players who completely stopped fractals, and gw2 for some, because of it.

Please, uncap the higher levels of fractals. We now have twice the AR we had back then, so higher levels of daily should now be available to us.

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Posted by: coronaas.4362

coronaas.4362

post this to general you might get a response if it hits 300+ replies

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

I would bump.

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Posted by: mexay.3902

mexay.3902

Really needs to happen. I’ve got 55 AR now. I’m 5 AR off taking 0 damage in 48s.

When ascended armour comes out, and we all get an extra 30 AR, capable of taking 1% damage per tick at level 58 is that where you say ’Alright, now you can have 50s"

This is not a problem of letting the general community get to that level, but giving the hardcore players a level to play at, with a level of prestige to it. What prestige is there in 48s anymore? None really. The guys running CoF 1 all day every day are there with 5 or 6 fractal weapons. They’re just a skin now.

I want to be able to put up an LFG for a level 68 and know that just by joining, my group will be some of the best players I’ve ever played with.

Please, uncap fractals. Literally anyone with full infused ascended, which as it currently stands takes maybe a month to get if they try, can do 48s. They don’t have to be skilled, they don’t have to be able to communicate to a party. Hell, they don’t even have to dodge anymore. Do what needs to be done.

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Posted by: Broadicea.8294

Broadicea.8294

hyperbole doesn’t serve this argument well

Retired. Too many casuals.

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Posted by: Chabo.7498

Chabo.7498

Has anyone confirmed if 50+ is still locked out. I would love to know now that I have 55 AR on my ranger.

Roaming/Raid Mesmer

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Posted by: One Note Chord.5031

One Note Chord.5031

Just tried it. 55 ar still dies instantly (that is, goes from full hp to dead in one tick) at level 58. Pretty disappointing.

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best statistical loot in the game. We want everyone on an equal power base.”
Pre-launch, Colin listed things that make MMOs bad. They are all now in GW2.

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Posted by: Chachacha.5806

Chachacha.5806

Yup, a group of us tried it as soon as the update was done. Def not possible, we tried Banner rez’s, guardian tome, 99% trick, rez orbs, a combination of the above, Nothing worked…

Seriously what gives? We can do 48’s with 45Ar but not 58’s with 55Ar.

The content is in the game, available and imo currently some of the most compelling as well as “Hard” content out there, why stop us from doing it? If you want to cater to more casual players please do, but don’t alienate those interested in the higher levels! I just don’t get the logic…

I mean, I love fractals and not just for the skins, as do many people around me, I even hit max level: 80 a couple of months ago. A long journey of working my way up through 32 levels of reward-less punishing content, and what have i got to show for it?

Kitten all! I repeat Kitten all!
Roger that?

I had a really good friend who I played levels 60 through to 80 with, we even reached it on the same run… Ah good times!
Well I haven’t seen him online since about a week after that famous run…
And that’s a kitten shame, but hey, what do you expect?

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Posted by: Wukunlin.8461

Wukunlin.8461

yeah, not much to expect when you have a bunch of fanboys with all that “YOU DON’T PLAY FOR THE REWARDS” BS

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Posted by: DungeonDaughter.7391

DungeonDaughter.7391

I’m pretty sure they fired Robert Hrouda right before this update specifically so he could not increase the fractal level cap.

Oh and I heard he ate Colin J’s last ice cream sandwich without replacing them. Big no no.

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No one enjoys [it]. No one finds it fun.” —Colin J.

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Posted by: Wraith.9426

Wraith.9426

If I had to guess, they will unlock higher levels in Fractals when they release the 3 new fractals later this year.

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Posted by: Nicron.2794

Nicron.2794

/sign

me and my friends were so happy to see new ascended gear coming, and now what?
nothing
no difference on jade maw 50+
wtf is wrong with that??
the only rly challanging pve content (fractals 70+ imho) can only be done if you know someone, who can open it for you

me and my friends hit lvl 80 1-2 weeks ago, in the end it was rly hard and even without any rewards we had a good time

why anet dont gives us the chance to get skins/big fractal relics??

maybe its time to take a break from guildwars

greetings from germany

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

at least i hope we will be able to survive maw at 48 without needing workarounds.

did anyone try how hard agony hits with ar 55?

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Zelyhn.8069

Zelyhn.8069

If they release new fractals, uncap them, and reduce the amount of dredges I will give them gems.

Geeeeeeeeems

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Posted by: haviz.1340

haviz.1340

If they release new fractals, uncap them, and reduce the amount of dredges I will give them gems.

Geeeeeeeeems

Swarm them!

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Posted by: Eleasar.2578

Eleasar.2578

Thanks all for testing that out so fast! Really sad that it is not possible to go for 50+ now. I hate the idea of the ascended weapons (for my guardian alone i use 12 different weapons) – but even having those weapon(s) will not help? wtf…

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

TheMaskedParadigm.3629

They should make Dredge Thieves that steal AR and use the stolen bundle to inflict Agony. That would be amazing!

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Posted by: Zelyhn.8069

Zelyhn.8069

I think dredges should use their digging technology to randomly appear in every single fractal. Not just a few dredges of course, the complete repoping bandwagon thing with the boss!
This way, no more avoiding them.
And then they steal AR.

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

TheMaskedParadigm.3629

I think dredges should use their digging technology to randomly appear in every single fractal. Not just a few dredges of course, the complete repoping bandwagon thing with the boss!
This way, no more avoiding them.
And then they steal AR.

I think there should also be a bonus event at every single Fractal end boss where the Dredge clown car digs out of the ground and Rabsovich and crew come out to play. That would be good.

Brazil
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Posted by: Bright.9160

Bright.9160

at least i hope we will be able to survive maw at 48 without needing workarounds.

did anyone try how hard agony hits with ar 55?

You could already do that.

Get it

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Depends if you consider using tomes as a work around.

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

I hope they never open up 50+. Actually, if they scaled the rewards the way they scale agony, I would change my opinion.

But yeah, revamp rewards first, and then open up higher difficulty.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

With new rewards I may actually start doing fracs again. Then i can finish getting backpieces for alts. Atm i cant be bothered as the only thing I want from fracs is a fractal sword and relics. But im not desperate for the relics and I will probably never have the luck to get the sword so its not worth my time.

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

TheMaskedParadigm.3629

My Wayfarer’s back piece got a nice upgrade with the patch yesterday

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Posted by: Zelyhn.8069

Zelyhn.8069

Is it to presumptuous to assume they will allow us to loot ascended weaponry in fotm 50+ ?

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

TheMaskedParadigm.3629

I think they’ll change all of the Fractal weapons to Ascended stats TBH. Especially since they have the untransmute stone now. I’m sure the Fractal skins will have random stats though and be random levels.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

at least i hope we will be able to survive maw at 48 without needing workarounds.

did anyone try how hard agony hits with ar 55?

You could already do that.

Get it

You are a mesmer a necro or a warrior with any of the usual fotm builds.

How can you survive agony if you are alone at maw?

If you pug a lot you understand why i don t like to be in the hands of guardians or thieves/eles that have high chances to miss their tome/blasts

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Zelyhn.8069

Zelyhn.8069

Hmm actually that would not be a bad idea!

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Posted by: HyssT.3854

HyssT.3854

1OO% agree. Anet, please stop time capping the content you add. It makes no senses. Is that your only tactic to enhance the little content that you provide? lol…

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

If you pug a lot you understand why i don t like to be in the hands of guardians or thieves/eles that have high chances to miss their tome/blasts

If you got all the way to Maw with a pug hopefully you figured out if the guardian is good enough to use tome.

then again, why even discuss it now that it’s a non-issue?

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

TheMaskedParadigm.3629

If you pug a lot you understand why i don t like to be in the hands of guardians or thieves/eles that have high chances to miss their tome/blasts

If you got all the way to Maw with a pug hopefully you figured out if the guardian is good enough to use tome.

then again, why even discuss it now that it’s a non-issue?

He has a club foot. This will also be the third post of mine he flags because I’ve mentioned the club foot. Someone doesn’t know their Lord Byron history

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Posted by: lightdruid.7689

lightdruid.7689

Necros can live through 48 maw ar ticks with no help as long as they have FULL life force. I’ve had to do it before when some of my party members ended up killing us all at the maw.

Made them all die over and over to get their life force and then proceeded to eat all the ticks.

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Posted by: Mad Rasputin.7809

Mad Rasputin.7809

I’m pretty sure they fired Robert Hrouda right before this update specifically so he could not increase the fractal level cap.

Oh and I heard he ate Colin J’s last ice cream sandwich without replacing them. Big no no.

I think you hit the nail on the head here.

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Posted by: Nicron.2794

Nicron.2794

bump this! we need access to higher levels!

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

If you pug a lot you understand why i don t like to be in the hands of guardians or thieves/eles that have high chances to miss their tome/blasts

If you got all the way to Maw with a pug hopefully you figured out if the guardian is good enough to use tome.

I can t say if and how hard is to use a tome.
I don t use a guardian.

What i can say is more than 50% guardians from gw2lfg miss it at maw.

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Now that you have 55 AR it’s all good now.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

I was asking if someone with AR 55 tried it….
But nobody answered.

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Wethospu.6437

Wethospu.6437

54% of your health.
Source

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Posted by: Tentonhammr.7849

Tentonhammr.7849

at least i hope we will be able to survive maw at 48 without needing workarounds.

did anyone try how hard agony hits with ar 55?

You could already do that.

Get it

You are a mesmer a necro or a warrior with any of the usual fotm builds.

How can you survive agony if you are alone at maw?

If you pug a lot you understand why i don t like to be in the hands of guardians or thieves/eles that have high chances to miss their tome/blasts

If you have played a necro to reward lvl 48 and don’t know how to survive maw agony at that level without anyone’s help, I just don’t know what to say… Next you’re gonna tell me you die on the final laser when there aren’t any crystals near by…

Zelendel

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Posted by: Quick Mouse.7635

Quick Mouse.7635

I expect (I hope) that they are waiting until people have a chance to craft a few ascended weapons. When they release the new fractals, I imagine (I hope) they will also raise the cap. Time will tell.

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Posted by: Nokaru.7831

Nokaru.7831

In order to survive the Jade Maw in Difficulty Scale 50+, one of these three things needs to happen:

  1. You find an exploit to bypass the mechanic.
  2. The designers lower the current damage value of its Agony attack. (1172%)
  3. You gain around 950 total Agony Resistance.

Just have to wait for someone to remove that extra “1”. It was designed to be impossible and it’s pretty bulletproof right now.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

at least i hope we will be able to survive maw at 48 without needing workarounds.

did anyone try how hard agony hits with ar 55?

You could already do that.

Get it

You are a mesmer a necro or a warrior with any of the usual fotm builds.

How can you survive agony if you are alone at maw?

If you pug a lot you understand why i don t like to be in the hands of guardians or thieves/eles that have high chances to miss their tome/blasts

If you have played a necro to reward lvl 48 and don’t know how to survive maw agony at that level without anyone’s help, I just don’t know what to say… Next you’re gonna tell me you die on the final laser when there aren’t any crystals near by…

i just have ele and mesmer
since ele is really hard to combo out at maw and almost impossible if you get targeted, and mesmer is impossible to keep alive alone….

I’d like to have 1 character not depending on random guardians…

Because i m a bad player that thinks that pugging is fun due to different party compositions and original tactics you happen to see.

But being 100% in the hands of Others annoys me too much

If you don t pug a lot maybe you can t understand i think

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

TheMaskedParadigm.3629

at least i hope we will be able to survive maw at 48 without needing workarounds.

did anyone try how hard agony hits with ar 55?

You could already do that.

Get it

You are a mesmer a necro or a warrior with any of the usual fotm builds.

How can you survive agony if you are alone at maw?

If you pug a lot you understand why i don t like to be in the hands of guardians or thieves/eles that have high chances to miss their tome/blasts

If you have played a necro to reward lvl 48 and don’t know how to survive maw agony at that level without anyone’s help, I just don’t know what to say… Next you’re gonna tell me you die on the final laser when there aren’t any crystals near by…

i just have ele and mesmer
since ele is really hard to combo out at maw and almost impossible if you get targeted, and mesmer is impossible to keep alive alone….

I’d like to have 1 character not depending on random guardians…

Because i m a bad player that thinks that pugging is fun due to different party compositions and original tactics you happen to see.

But being 100% in the hands of Others annoys me too much

If you don t pug a lot maybe you can t understand i think

You can’t keep Mesmer alive on its own…? I mean, you have like 80% uptime on reflects, Vigor on crit, and Blurred Frenzy. Not to mention loads of Dazes and a solid HP pool.

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Posted by: Estriella Faerie.4029

Estriella Faerie.4029

I mean, you have like 80% uptime on reflects, Vigor on crit, and Blurred Frenzy.

None of which works on Maw agony. If he only has 45ar, a mesmer can’t survive maw agony on it’s own.

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

TheMaskedParadigm.3629

I mean, you have like 80% uptime on reflects, Vigor on crit, and Blurred Frenzy.

None of which works on Maw agony. If he only has 45ar, a mesmer can’t survive maw agony on it’s own.

#HealSkill

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

If he only has 45ar

No excuse for that anymore. Get geared.

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Posted by: Treborlavok.3504

Treborlavok.3504

Why do you think they added ascended weapons and armor coming sometime soon. Just watch, when the ascended armor drops, well get more fotm zones/content.

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

TheMaskedParadigm.3629

Why do you think they added ascended weapons and armor coming sometime soon. Just watch, when the ascended armor drops, well get more fotm zones/content.

The hope remains in this man.

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Posted by: Nikaido.3457

Nikaido.3457

Considering that one of the future fractals will be inspired by the molten facility (but not an actual carbon copy of the dungeon), and that dredges are the most loved mobs here, I am grinning from ear to ear at the thought of what may actually happen once they’re done working on that fractal. 48 molten will be a gift that keeps on giving.

The thought of getting both molten and underground facility on the same roll! Think about the possibilities!

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Posted by: Emanuel.9781

Emanuel.9781

NO NO NO

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