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Posted by: Raven.3248

Raven.3248

So I hear some people are getting banned for selling. Devs can you please release new info regarding this issue because the last info we got was that it is ok to sell when no exploits are used.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1x8nii/psa_dungeon_selling_might_be_a_bannable_offence/

This is important because you cant just go and ban all sellers because you changed your minds and not informing anyone

Just another Arah veteran

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

Purple Miku.7032

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Posted by: Fext.3614

Fext.3614

IDK why are people banned for selling, if people are certainly not forced to buy… I never did and after all it does not make any sense. AC is the best way how to make fast and easy money so to pay for it is really odd…

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Posted by: Lindbur.2537

Lindbur.2537

They’re banning sellers who exploit (like the underwater lupi skip), not legitimate sellers. The problem is that they’re on a power trip and banning the wrong people in the process.

#FreeDolan

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

a t s e.9614

Banning the “wrong” people because they are on your friendlist ? Thats pretty sad trying to defend people who ruin the game for the others . An exploiter could buy all dusks from TP , resell for the price he wants and blow up the market.

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Posted by: Lindbur.2537

Lindbur.2537

Banning the “wrong” people because they are on your friendlist ? Thats pretty sad trying to defend people who ruin the game for the others . An exploiter could buy all dusks from TP , resell for the price he wants and blow up the market.

What is your problem, seriously?

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Posted by: dutchiez.7502

dutchiez.7502

Banning the “wrong” people because they are on your friendlist ? Thats pretty sad trying to defend people who ruin the game for the others . An exploiter could buy all dusks from TP , resell for the price he wants and blow up the market.

Atse, going full kitten 1 post at a time.

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Posted by: noobgood.8762

noobgood.8762

At least I have something to laugh about while waiting for my PC to be repaired.

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

a t s e.9614

Its not my fault if some people cant play the game normally. Play the game the way it was intended and you’ll keep your account, its simple isint it?

The funny part is that they think they are the only ones who know about arah puzzles. We all know that stuff and choose to not use dem at our advantage.

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

Atse ….

#FreeDolan

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Posted by: Phadde.7362

Phadde.7362

I’d like selling dungeons to be ban-able. Just did the fatal mistake (which I once promised that I wouldn’t make) and PUG:ed AC twice. On the end of the first run, two french guildies kicked the rest in the very end of the dungeon. Same thing happened on the run after – but that time it was two different people doing the sinful deeds.

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

a t s e.9614

Atse ….

#FreeDolan

I got defeated by dredge scale 28 today , you can at least say that next time instead of leaving an empty text … How I am supposed to reply if its blank
?

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Posted by: Matisse.9356

Matisse.9356

atse has a point here, as an awful lot are selling paths using exploits.
This is not only valid for Arah, but has started heavily with AC too.
Besides hurting the economy, AC is usually the first dungeon to check out and therefore leaves a nice impression on new potential dungeoneers…

In all honesty, I fully support that they are finally taking action against exploiters.
Unfortunately, there might be some misfire, but I am sure that this can be resolved.

I doubt that whining on the forums is a helpful measure though…

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

Atse ….

#FreeDolan

I got defeated by dredge scale 28 today , you can at least say that next time instead of leaving an empty text … How I am supposed to reply if its blank
?

what?

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Besides hurting the economy,

This is an opinion masquerading as a fact. Please describe, in precise economic terminology, how someone selling a dungeon path hurts the game economy. And I mean hurt as in cause actual damage not “increase the gold supply by .000000001% which leads to inflation of .0000001%.”

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

a t s e.9614

Atse ….

#FreeDolan

I got defeated by dredge scale 28 today , you can at least say that next time instead of leaving an empty text … How I am supposed to reply if its blank
?

what?

Your favourite words. ‘’ Fully defeated , broken armor’’ here you go.

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

I don’t understand how you being dead at lupi is relevant to the #FreeDolan movement.

#FreeDolan

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Posted by: Matisse.9356

Matisse.9356

Besides hurting the economy,

This is an opinion masquerading as a fact. Please describe, in precise economic terminology, how someone selling a dungeon path hurts the game economy. And I mean hurt as in cause actual damage not “increase the gold supply by .000000001% which leads to inflation of .0000001%.”

First off, I would appreciate if you didn’t take quotes out of context.
Second, I gladly explain it to you: If someone is increasing the gold in circulation by means of EXPLOITING paths to gain fast gold, it is hurting the economy as this is gold not intended to be added in this way.

You do not know how much the gold supply by means of EXPLOITED path selling increases the overall economy, so your statement could be completely inaccurate – politely put.

Saying money gathered by EXPLOITING is not hurting the economy because it is a small amount is a rather strange argument. Bad money hurts in real life too, no matter how small the overall amount might be. As you have quite some thought-out posts in this forum, I doubt that you fail to understand this.

I have put the content I am referring to in block letters, as I am not sure you read my first post in detail but rather felt the need to shoot from the hip.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

You might have an arguement for ac. But arah sellers tend to not repeat the paths that often in a single day. There is a minor time difference in dungeon completion when using certain exploits. In fact the underwater skip in arah path 2 and the lupi skip take longer than actually doing it legit. :/

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Posted by: Cat Has Ducks.1982

Cat Has Ducks.1982

You might have an arguement for ac. But arah sellers tend to not repeat the paths that often in a single day. There is a minor time difference in dungeon completion when using certain exploits. In fact the underwater skip in arah path 2 and the lupi skip take longer than actually doing it legit. :/

I think people’s main concerns are coral skipping p4. Which I heard was still doable in a slightly more bothersome way. I haven’t been keeping up with anything, so I don’t know.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Yeah its quite a bit longer to do. And well in the case of path 4. I dont think anyone sells that more than once or twice per day because even when skipping it takes quite a long time to do solo/duo. And finding buyers can take more time than actually running it.

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Posted by: Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137

Besides hurting the economy,

This is an opinion masquerading as a fact. Please describe, in precise economic terminology, how someone selling a dungeon path hurts the game economy. And I mean hurt as in cause actual damage not “increase the gold supply by .000000001% which leads to inflation of .0000001%.”

First off, I would appreciate if you didn’t take quotes out of context.
Second, I gladly explain it to you: If someone is increasing the gold in circulation by means of EXPLOITING paths to gain fast gold, it is hurting the economy as this is gold not intended to be added in this way.

You do not know how much the gold supply by means of EXPLOITED path selling increases the overall economy, so your statement could be completely inaccurate – politely put.

Saying money gathered by EXPLOITING is not hurting the economy because it is a small amount is a rather strange argument. Bad money hurts in real life too, no matter how small the overall amount might be. As you have quite some thought-out posts in this forum, I doubt that you fail to understand this.

I have put the content I am referring to in block letters, as I am not sure you read my first post in detail but rather felt the need to shoot from the hip.

You seem to think I am pro-AC exploiting. I am not. I wish Anet would make fixing it a top priority.

But I took issue with your statement, because it is a factually incorrect statement. Being incredibly generous, AC selling adds something like 150g to the game economy in a single day. That is astoundingly insignificant. That is less gold then the frostgorge champ farm on a single server produces in 10 minutes. So even being an EXPLOIT, and even being EVIL and WRONG, it is so insignificant that it doesn’t hurt the economy in any measurable way. To put it in perspective, the Skyhammer pvp glory farm introduced tens of thousands of gold into the economy once the new vendor was created, and in comparison to that ACTUAL damage done, AC exploiting pales in comparison.

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

a t s e.9614

Lies , arah p4 legit takes FOREVER , if you skip directly to lupi , you only kill 2 bosses . Which takes around 15 min . 15g\slot x 4 = 60g in 15 min is basicly breaking the economy in every way.

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Posted by: TheMaskedParadigm.3629

TheMaskedParadigm.3629

I don’t even know why people still fall for Atse’s bait.

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

Purple Miku.7032

Lies , arah p4 legit takes FOREVER , if you skip directly to lupi , you only kill 2 bosses . Which takes around 15 min . 15g\slot x 4 = 60g in 15 min is basicly breaking the economy in every way.

You really suck at math… I’m posting for the sole purpose of pointing out the obvious fact that Arah p4 does NOT sell instantly. You also have to spend time finding placeholders/fillers when you sell it because if you don’t people just join and kick you from your own instance.

I hate that there are so many people exploiting and selling as well but I hate when people provide false information to skew reality in their favor even more.

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Posted by: Alex.9106

Alex.9106

just ignore atse, she/he is a bad troll

usually alot of thing she/he said is kitten

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Posted by: Franklin Fhenrir.4962

Franklin Fhenrir.4962

they should start looking at AC, the profit ain’t much compared to arah sellers but the amount of serious exploit sellers that are Thief, Ele and Mesmer are all over the list.

You either die a underpowered class or you live long enough to be the overpowered one.

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

a t s e.9614

Are you really finding spot holders when you’re selling ? What a waste of time …. Just sell your instance normally and put “proxy” in the lfg . The kickers\trolls will never join proxy parties . Anyway if you’re telling me that exploiting arah dosent affect the playerbase , then why anet are banning people ? Yea right …

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Posted by: joey the creator.3587

joey the creator.3587

i still can’t tell if you’re braindead or a troll.

Quit gw2. Casually play gw1 when I have spare time.

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Posted by: dutchiez.7502

dutchiez.7502

I’m going to believe that he is a troll because it makes me too sad to think otherwise.

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Posted by: Lindbur.2537

Lindbur.2537

I conclude that atse is bad at what he is trying to do here, there, everywhere.

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Posted by: Cries Of Sorrow.5864

Cries Of Sorrow.5864

The only thing atse is good at is giving people infraction points, while they should all be booked to his own account godspeed.

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Posted by: J Eberle.9312

J Eberle.9312

Doesn’t he just want to be loved like me? I can teach.

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Posted by: Chris Cleary

Chris Cleary

Game Security Lead

Locking this thread as it has devolved significantly.

Please refer to my original post on this topic//
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Banned-for-selling-dungeon-paths/page/2#post3606021

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