Ok i just read some of the guild halls thingies
and there was something that upset me but it can work in both ways but not relly in a way that a guild are solid as gw should be sounds like they want peolpe to represent all over and have no connection to its current guild Now guildies can chat whit their other representing guild in /g1 to /g5 xD Dont they want people to be in one community at a time? man i dont know what they are trying to make but its not relly a community, I mean, im old fashion and a guild is about build things togheter and grow togheter… and guild halls isnt that for 1 guild at a time??? so why do u wanna represent 5 other guilds? Just feels as if they have no dedication nore any feeling what a guild is all about having a cross chatt when ever the other guilds chat is dead just opens door for more guild jumping. And 0 dedication and morals and feeling as u are a part of somethng. yeaiks what do u think?
5 Diffrent rep chats? and one guild?
Alliance chat (basically what this is, for some) has been an oft-requested feature. Chatting with one guild does not bar you from chatting with (and getting to know) any of the players in the other guilds.
You are under no obligation, whatsoever, to make use of said up-coming feature.
Good luck.
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yeah but again… this dosent make a solid guild, u understand? Its just makes an turncoat nothing else, when the wind is blowing hard then they jump the boat
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why did they even choose people to have the possibility to rep in the first change? has caused more trubble then it works… -welcome to the guild.. now u just have to press join…. ahh ok i mean represent… what is that… well u can represent 5 guilds at a time.. bla bla… yeah.. represent button.. not join… welcome to the guild (3 hours later) hey… ure still nt repping.. just press “G” tab then “guild” then represent… yes the represent button… yes… 2 hours later.. (new char) yeah i see ure not repping… just press “G” tab then Represent button and ure in the guild
yey welcome again… man… those hours spending on this… i could have spend them on something else… cut represent whit a samurai sword… today!
Man or girl for that matter… im not affraid of my community.. its solid and has been since gw1, but the problem is that no other guild will get a solid base ground. Because ive seen soooooooo many guild get destroyed because of this repping issue. Noone has any feeling of an oldschool community only turncoats and windfollowers… what makes a guild dedication and followers that are solid to the guild? to the cause and community that u are? If u start whit a base modell whit repping 5 guilds… how can u start that? how can u ever acheve having a solid guild… soooo many guild that are in the trash can because of the 5 guild rep possibility… u have no ideer but Anet has
I was in a guild that went dormant for about a year, but I stayed in there because they were my main guild and I was hoping they would revive some day. They did make a bit of a revival but because I wasn’t repping at the time I wasn’t really aware until they demoted me. Part of it was bad communication on their part, but something like this new feature could have helped the situation.
But again Cormac, u should have left them because they will turn inacitve again after the new update is boring.. happen to many of my friends that playes games everywhere. just stay solid to the guild ure in… whats the big deal.. to say BYE to the guild uve been whit 1 year and then ure friends come back and u say HEY and then they get inactive 2 months in the new campaine.. andy u get lonley again and goes HEY im BACK AGAIN ! i mean.. what does people think about this
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From what I understood, because influence will no longer work how it currently does, being in a guild but not actively repping won’t be a problem for guilds.
In the future, guilds will be able to expand themselves just from guildies completing guild mission. Of course, for a guild mission, you have to rep otherwise you won’t get the rewards for yourself. Other than that, representing won’t give any advantage over not representing (other than having the guild tag next to your name and thus advertising the guild).
My main concern is how guild mission rewards are going to be changed to compensate this, if at all. Players are only incentivised to complete guild missions once a week as they won’t be rewarded more than once. But if you rep 5 active guilds, all 5 will want you to complete the guild missions with them so they can make upgrades…
Dont u see the problem here? " Of course, for a guild mission, you have to rep otherwise you won’t get the rewards for yourself. Other than that, representing won’t give any advantage over not representing" so why do they have guild??? why in the gods name to they even want guilds? i eman if the community and the hard work togheter and all the years togheter doesnt mean crap why celebrate it whit hey… why dont u join 5 other guilds and see if u like it there… or after that 5 other… i eman there isnt any dedecation in theese sentenses. None at all 0 Guild feeling in the core of the word… why dont they just up the guild max level to 2500 and then they have one guild whit enough members to never leave their guild
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Ok i just read some of the guild halls thingies
I can see how it can be frustrating, but me personally, I cant wait.
More guild and friendlist features please!
QoL changes are a reason to buy the expansion, right, WP?
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(Going to be honest Tyrion, had a bit of a hard time deciphering what points you were trying to make, so I’ll have to guess.)
First of all… “Why be in a guild?”. I’d be in a guild to enjoy the company of like-minded people.
Secondly… “Why be in multiple guilds?”. For a number of reasons.. here’s some hypothetical examples:
-Guild 1 would be my go-to all-round guild. Perhaps I’ve known these people for a long time and see them as good friends. The tight-knit community is awesome, but the guild itself doesn’t excel in many of the game modes.
-Guild 2 would be my WvW guild. If I fancy doing some WvW, I know that during peak times my commander would be online and we would be a somewhat successful and organised zerg.
-Guild 3 might be a PvP guild. I could turn to them for PvP build advice, some sparring in a private arena and join them to party for matches and tournaments.
-Guild 4 could be a personal guild with family and real-life friends. Maybe these guys don’t play all too often, but when they are online we could play together.
-Guild 5 could be a speciality guild, focusing on going Teq/Wurm or dungeon tours and high level fractals.With these examples being possibilities for people, being able to see all guild chats at once could be highly beneficial.
It means that they can keep an eye out for particular content that is only offered by one of the guilds they are members of. It would also mean I could still chat to my friends whilst I was busy doing something else.
I know that a lot of guild leaders struggle when it comes to organising people who aren’t repping, as it means the leaders have to whisper all of the people who are online to tell them of the upcoming events. Currently, in many guilds that don’t opt for a 100% rule, this is a necessary sacrifice because people don’t remember times/forget etc. This change is a godsend as it means that it will be a lot easier for people to be told what’s coming next.
The only negative I see is that guild leaders and officers will have to moderate what’s going on in chat a bit more strictly. If you are showing 5 chats at once (for the benefit of being up-to-date everywhere) you don’t want guildies spamming. Lengthy conversations that are between only a small group of guildies will need to be moved elsewhere (e.g. party chat, say chat… in a guildhall etc), otherwise people will turn off their chat and will then no longer benefit from the constant up-dates.
Im so sorry, but u dont have no clue what a guild is so ill leave the replyes to that
Ok i just read some of the guild halls thingies
I can see how it can be frustrating, but me personally, I cant wait.
More guild and friendlist features please!QoL changes are a reason to buy the expansion, right, WP?
I can see why ure not in a solid guild
Ok, but that doesn’t really have anything to do with chat. If he fears his guild members will abandon his guild because they can chat with the members of the other guilds they belong to, he is certainly allowed to create a 100% rep-required guild. Problem solved.
Wouldnt solve his problem cedo :P They’d simply rep his guild, turn off his guild’s chat, and then turn on the chats for the guilds people really like. Thus his guild is abandoned in all but name.
And frankly, why do you care, OP? If I’m repping one guild, but also actively rep in another one, it kittening sucks that it’d be forced to miss out on things going on in the other guild because seeing chat required repping. Maybe I rep my personal 1man guild for quiet time, but I want to know if another of my guilds is starting some events?
Again u dont see the benefits of a solid guild
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I have 4 guilds that i split my time between. 2 Roleplay guilds, a family guild and a dungeon guild. Big boon for me!
Big boon for me. AS i can talk to my family, Dungeon and roleplay guilds all at the same time, without having to stop repping. If anything im going to have even more fun!
But again if u had a guild that did all of thoes things what would u do then
the more u guys post here the more i see people that dedicate this game as a single player game super sad
hahahah
i foresee people spamming LF4M ARAH in all the guilds they are in…..
yeap a single player game for feeding the people in need for others in 5 diffrent guilds… spamming.. for their own egoistic needs hurray for repping
But again if u had a guild that did all of thoes things
My roleplay guild does all of those things(BUT: Not all the time, as they might be busy Roleplaying), and my family would not be with them to talk to(As my family doesnt roleplay.) The dungeon guild is there so if i want to do higher level fractals, and the harder dungeons(as my Roleplay group does not do those). I will not ever join a big guild again, after the two experiences i have had with them, both bad, and neither made me want to stay around or join a new big guild. I went guildless for 1 year because of their actions. So as i said, this feature is awesome for my small…all but one less than 100 member guilds.
EDIT: Crimson Cloud said it rather nicely. I do see the benefit, but i will not ever be part of said guild again. I much more enjoy being part of five guilds, each with a different focus.
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I have 4 guilds that i split my time between. 2 Roleplay guilds, a family guild and a dungeon guild. Big boon for me!
Big boon for me. AS i can talk to my family, Dungeon and roleplay guilds all at the same time, without having to stop repping. If anything im going to have even more fun!
But again if u had a guild that did all of thoes things
A lot of people don’t have this option of having one guild for everything, Tyrion.
Different people want guilds with a different focus. For example (using Dante’s choice of guilds as an example), If my family and friends don’t like roleplaying, but I do, how am I meant to convince them to join the RP guild? Sure, we could all join a massive guild that offers everything, but then the RP scene might not be as enjoyable or as thriving as the one that was in the RP speciality guild.
Also… maybe I do “see the benefit of a (single) solid guild”. Perhaps I think that the benefit of multiple highly-specialised guilds is greater (and the set-backs for such a scheme will be reduced when I can see guild chats from all 5 guilds).
EDIT: Different people like different things. Some people like being loyal and dedicated to a single group, that’s fine. What I’m not ok with is when OP seems to be looking down his nose at those who want to be a member of multiple guilds… and then doesn’t supply much evidence in terms of how a “solid guild” is significantly better than any other solution for any person.
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But again if u had a guild that did all of thoes things
My roleplay guild does all of those things, but the family part(As my family doesnt roleplay.) The dungeon guild is there so if i want to higher level fractals, and the harder dungeons. I will not ever join a big guild again, after the two experiences i have had with them, both bad, and neither made me want to stay around or join a new big guild. I went guildless for 1 year because of their actions. So as i said, this feature is awesome for my small…all but one less than 100 member guilds.
Dante im relly sad for ure behalf, we are a guild that accualy take care of our members and have a positive community whit pepl that helps and we are a 300 solid 3 month inactive rule ( kick ) guild and are active as no other in gw2. And we still ahve fun, no eliteism nore any negative chatt. So there is communities and many of them that are solid and happy and many but they are ofc hard to find.. as we only recruit when we are down on members that gets inactive and keep a solid number at 300. But again.. i understand people that doesnt have any feelings nore any dedication to the game to be repping where ever they want when they log in once a week… if their guild is inactive they they rep an other and then rep back when they doesnt get caught in the act… well i dont know… nothing.. not even cllose positive comes form 5 guild repping… i wont tutch that whit a glove. 0 dedication and 0 guild belefes
I have 4 guilds that i split my time between. 2 Roleplay guilds, a family guild and a dungeon guild. Big boon for me!
Big boon for me. AS i can talk to my family, Dungeon and roleplay guilds all at the same time, without having to stop repping. If anything im going to have even more fun!
But again if u had a guild that did all of thoes things
A lot of people don’t have this option of having one guild for everything, Tyrion.
Different people want guilds with a different focus. For example (using Dante’s choice of guilds as an example), If my family and friends don’t like roleplaying, but I do, how am I meant to convince them to join the RP guild? Sure, we could all join a massive guild that offers everything, but then the RP scene might not be as enjoyable or as thriving as the one that was in the RP speciality guild.
Also… maybe I do “see the benefit of a (single) solid guild”. Perhaps I think that the benefit of multiple highly-specialised guilds is greater (and the set-backs for such a scheme will be reduced when I can see guild chats from all 5 guilds).
EDIT: Different people like different things. Some people like being loyal and dedicated to a single group, that’s fine. What I’m not ok with is when OP seems to be looking down his nose at those who want to be a member of multiple guilds… and then doesn’t supply much evidence in terms of how a “solid guild” is significantly better than any other solution for any person.
well if u dont want to change ure guild into what it can be then dont and have diffrent guild for ure choice its ure own game time, ure own time ure spending… but i rather have a guild that has a social experience whit everything in game. Pvp, wvw, pve, puzzles and dffrent events that is just time consuming but fun or just lie in the grass and chatt… thats what one guild is all about and what ull remember in 20 years. Not 30 diffrent gulds u gone throught the last 1 year.
delicate, brick-like subtlety.
well if u dont want to change ure guild into what it can be then dont and have diffrent guild for ure choice
There’s a distinct difference between being active and dedicated in 5 different speciality guilds and guild-hopping through 30 different guilds.
And like I mentioned before, people who have multiple guilds often do so because their isn’t enough support in their “home guild” for a game mode that they want to play in. They might love the company of their home-guild, but equally enjoy the skill and dedication to players in a PvP guild or equally admire the expression and ingenuity of the players in a RP guild.
I’ve always been anti-100% rep when it comes to guilds that can’t offer a deep look into all content, as it puts an obstacle in the way of people from exploring the game as a whole.
Its that kick feature thats one of the big turn offs from any big guild. That and other things. I take 6 month breaks at a time, Constantly. I play for sixth months, leave for sixth months, and go play WOT. I dont log in to GW2 at all during that time. With my current guilds i can leave and come back and they will be here. Hell the people who usually play are always here when i come back too, and they are more than happy to see me! I wouldnt get that with your guild. In 3 months id be gone. When i got back, i wouldnt even bother asking to rejoin the guild, because of how i play this game. And my one roleplay guild, does guild missions, every saturday, they run WVW in the evenings, before most people start roleplaying(Im not on TC so i cant join them), PVP too. Puzzles get done every saturday right after missions.
Well dante… ure considerd inactive if u dont play the game for 2 months its a rule that even a newcommer can ablige to its a no brainer… if ure not in the game for 2 months… the community and the snowball moves on So to be specific… if ure not logged on for months whitout an notice, then u pertty much doesnt care about ure community or guild
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Well dante… ure considerd inactive if u dont play the game for 2 months
Its not a rule obviously. Considering i have 5 guilds that are there for me when i get back from being gone for sixth months.
As i said, i prefer smaller more tight knit guilds. They all know my gaming pattern, so they dont do anything about me being gone. They know me. My two big guilds never knew me as well as these 5 much smaller guilds do. They know things about me that nobody IRL besides my family knows. Thats how much i trust them and how awesome they are as a community.
well if u dont want to change ure guild into what it can be then dont and have diffrent guild for ure choice
There’s a distinct difference between being active and dedicated in 5 different speciality guilds and guild-hopping through 30 different guilds.
And like I mentioned before, people who have multiple guilds often do so because their isn’t enough support in their “home guild” for a game mode that they want to play in. They might love the company of their home-guild, but equally enjoy the skill and dedication to players in a PvP guild or equally admire the expression and ingenuity of the players in a RP guild.
I’ve always been anti-100% rep when it comes to guilds that can’t offer a deep look into all content, as it puts an obstacle in the way of people from exploring the game as a whole.
we have snapped out many of theese players and made them solid of the cause. But the problem still stands… how many hasnt feeled the warmth of a guild.. and still playes this game solo for their own needs
Well dante… ure considerd inactive if u dont play the game for 2 months
Its not a rule obviously. Considering i have 5 guilds that are there for me when i get back from being gone for sixth months.
As i said, i prefer smaller more tight knit guilds. They all know my gaming pattern, so they dont do anything about me being gone. They know me. My two big guilds never knew me as well as these 5 much smaller guilds do. They know things about me that nobody IRL besides my family knows. Thats how much i trust them and how awesome they are as a community.
Our guilds knows me and we are a community of 300+ thats when u makes the effort to get to know people and make them into the community and make them feel as u got their back in any scenario wvw, pvp or pve. Ure guild option atm is just like an 100+ guild but u just change between them and knows them justas much as a tight knit 100+ guild. whats the diffrence?
ANet may give it to you.
Ok, but that doesn’t really have anything to do with chat. If he fears his guild members will abandon his guild because they can chat with the members of the other guilds they belong to, he is certainly allowed to create a 100% rep-required guild. Problem solved.
Wouldnt solve his problem cedo :P They’d simply rep his guild, turn off his guild’s chat, and then turn on the chats for the guilds people really like. Thus his guild is abandoned in all but name.
And frankly, why do you care, OP? If I’m repping one guild, but also actively rep in another one, it kittening sucks that it’d be forced to miss out on things going on in the other guild because seeing chat required repping. Maybe I rep my personal 1man guild for quiet time, but I want to know if another of my guilds is starting some events?
Again u dont see the benefits of a solid guild
I belong to a guild that, at it’s strongest numbers, had 6 thousand people. Clearly, you are the one that doesnt see the point of this change. Frankly, I dont care, you’ve proven that you dont understand, or want to understand, how this change is a benefit.