Guild Wars 2

Patch looks quite cool. New achievments for AP hunters. New TP looks nice. New runes and sigils – ok. Combat log options – cool. And milion other small changes.

But there is one big change that EVERYONE hate (seriously i cant find a single person that said this change is great or even “ok”). New leveling system.

Jesus what is this ? I mean the old leveling system was so easy that 10 year old kid could lvl up character to 80 without any help from veteran players. But why am I saying this. Just look at that :

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Misconceptions-regarding-Level-gating/page/3#post4395077

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/This-video-sums-up-the-game-for-me/first

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/As-a-new-player-Im-done

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/My-friends-Anet-what-have-you-done

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Turn-off-tutorial-option

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/ANet-the-reason-you-have-no-player-retention

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Downscaling-new-system-is-weird

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Revert-it-all

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/New-lvling-system-literally-too-easy-for-5yo

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/I-can-t-recommend-this-game-anymore

If I was a new player I would think “What is this? Are they thinking that I am 3y old with IQ=2?”. I wanted to lvl my guardian but after this new patch ? No way Im not gonna take a part in this kitten.

I really like almost all other changes in this patch. Some of them are just “yea cool stuff but im not gonna use it anyway”, “good to have something like this”. But new tutorial is just an insult from ANet. It looks like they want to say :

"
-Hey our players are so dumb that they cant even make an 80lvl character.
-Oh c’mon but it is already so easy that I can do it with closed eyes!
-Yea I know but we have to do it easier, so players from kindergarten can play it too.
-But why the hell we want kindergarten players in GW2?
-Beacuse old veterans quit the game and we need a new players.
-Great idea and then we will have more young players with rich parents!
-I know we are so smart ^^.
"

Why they cant make an official voting before doing something like that ?!

Yeah, they really kittened up the leveling system. The entire new system is a joke. There is not one think in the new leveling system that I can say that I liked, none!

“But there is one big change that EVERYONE hate (seriously i cant find a single person that said this change is great or even “ok”). New leveling system.”

If I were you I would quickly remove that line from your post, unless you want certain people specifically making posts refuting it. You don’t want your thread derailed do you?

Several people have said they liked it. There was even a thread someone made who specifically said they like it.

More telling is a poll on reddit, where a bunch of people responded. 75% didn’t like it (roughly) and 25% did like it. So it’s hard to say no one likes it.

I mostly like it, but it needs some adjustment.

Edit: I wasn’t going to post this, but I didn’t want to disappoint Hybrid.

Vayne quit playing the game just after launch and plays forum warrior . Good evening Vayne! But in all seriousness there are a few that like the leveling system, only the 6 know why they like it, but they do. It would be nice if there was an explanation given on why they changed things as much as they did and just who they were trying to satisfy. It would also be nice if the company will take the negative feedback that is spreading rapidly throughout the gaming world and do something constructive with it like fix their mistakes.

I honestly doubt there are “that many” that likes the change.

I know a bunch of people isn’t bothered by the patch, or say it isn’t so bad, but there are “almost” no one liking it.

Obviously there are a few people that say they like it, but it is very rare. I’d like to see the poll on reddit though, can’t find it.

ANet can salvage the system if they revert some of the locked skills/abilities, examples:

• Weapon Swap

• Off-Hand

• Skill Challenge

Additionally, when you consider the Trait changes made in April (which I hate), the problems are compounded. The system was already fairly lean, doling it out for 80 levels via gating and level locking really waters down the player experience.

Thorin.9624:

Vayne quit playing the game just after launch and plays forum warrior . Good evening Vayne! But in all seriousness there are a few that like the leveling system, only the 6 know why they like it, but they do. It would be nice if there was an explanation given on why they changed things as much as they did and just who they were trying to satisfy. It would also be nice if the company will take the negative feedback that is spreading rapidly throughout the gaming world and do something constructive with it like fix their mistakes.

I want to see what the bugs are. Regina posted that some of the first character experience is showing up in alts and they don’t know why.

The leveling experience we’re seeing might not be what we’re supposed to be seeing. At least that’s what she said.

But the gating is not denied and unfortunately the gating is whats hated the most.

laokoko.7403:

I honestly doubt there are “that many” that likes the change.

I know a bunch of people isn’t bothered by the patch, or say it isn’t so bad, but there are “almost” no one liking it.

Obviously there are a few people that say they like it, but it is very rare. I’d like to see the poll on reddit though, can’t find it.

Moved a lot since the beginning, but here’s the link:

http://strawpoll.me/2537863/r

Kuldebar.1897:

ANet can salvage the system if they revert some of the locked skills/abilities, examples:

• Weapon Swap

• Off-Hand

• Skill Challenge

Skill Challenge and Personal Story are a PRIORITY to revert, just after fixing the scaling issues. It’s not much of a Skill Challenge if you have to wait until you are strong enough to do it. Because, waiting until you are stronger makes the Skill Challenge so much more challenging. And, to do my Personal Story I don’t like being forced to go do a bunch of impersonal heart quests and events just to reach an arbitrary level.

Actually, I’ve heard that you can still DO the skill challenges at any level, you just can’t ACTIVATE them. Because, you know, that totally won’t confuse new players at all.

Vayne.8563:

laokoko.7403:

I honestly doubt there are “that many” that likes the change.

I know a bunch of people isn’t bothered by the patch, or say it isn’t so bad, but there are “almost” no one liking it.

Obviously there are a few people that say they like it, but it is very rare. I’d like to see the poll on reddit though, can’t find it.

Moved a lot since the beginning, but here’s the link:

http://strawpoll.me/2537863/r

Right, they should have a poll about people that don’t care. Because many people dont’ care about it, or bother them much.

I’m not sure what’s the reason of people that like it.