Guild Wars 2

Jamais vu.5284:

chemiclord.3978:

Ya know, it’d be easier to believe Chicken Little if he hadn’t been screaming that the sky has been falling for the last year and a half. No matter how many times you repeat it, it’s not going to make it any more true.

The game’s not dying, no matter how much you wish it would. Arena.net isn’t going to come crawling back to you with the GW1 with updated graphics you want, even if GW2 were to die. I’m sorry.

Let me rephrase his point:
The hardcore PvE community interested in raids and other endgame content.
The sPvP community.
The hardcore WvW community.
Even the roleplayers.
They are all dying. People are leaving by the day without replacement. You’d easily see this if you talked to people that fit those needs. The only thing left by ANet’s own admission is the Living Story.

And I’m sure if you add up all those hard core people in all those areas, it wouldn’t account for most of the games players. Everything thinks because THEY aren’t catered too most people feel like them.

I disagree. It’s not because of the silence that people leave…it’s because they discover this is a shallow game with no real story, lackluster character NPC’s, and temporary content rather than real content added to the game. Also, said temporary content is just the same kind of mechanics reskinned and redialogued.

Of course, this is just my take on it.

I think Anet does a good job keeping us informed and up to date about the game and what they are doing. They are in quite a bit more contact with the players the most game development companies are. They post from time to time in these forums, also Reddit ,Facebook, Twitter and now google+ but they can’t response to every post or hang on social sites. I’d rather see them do their jobs making the best game ever even better. Did you know if and when they do post it’s usually
On their own time.

uknortherner.2670:

Anets’ biggest mistake it seems was creating these forums in the first place. Those people enjoying the game will probably never bother posting here, so all that’s left is a lot of noise from people who think the devs should cater solely to the conspiracy nuts, gankheads and the so-called “hardcore”.

Since you’re here as well, which of the three are you? Conspiracy nut, gankhead, or “hardcore”?

I think conspiracies are fascinating.

And I would bet that most people posting here enjoy the game to some degree, otherwise they wouldn’t care enough to post things like suggestions/complaints.

If you mean that only people who enjoy the game 100% have valuable opinions, then you are more deluded than any conspiracy nut, gankhead, or hardcore. For example, shouldn’t it be obvious to you that many posters are people who like the game but feel it’s not meeting its potential?

As for the topic, I wouldn’t be surprised if people leave; if you don’t really care about Living Story in PvE, then the game hasn’t changed much over the past year. The PvP modes feel neglected, and the “high end” PvE crowd is somewhat neglected as well.

For example, look at the frustration with the ‘Account Bound WXP’ change in the WvW forums: a relatively minor change that is very unlikely to be a big effort from a technical standpoint, with very strong demand from players, hasn’t been implemented for months (And to preempt any arguments about how I don’t know their code, I’ve worked on big scalable software, I can estimate the difficulty of a problem).

Currently more people are coming back to the game than there are leaving
Just saying.

Next to that, ArenaNet isn’t holding silent. If you check out the forum there are actually quite alot of threads which they reply to. However these threads are most of the time about major issues or seriously improvements.
Where ArenaNet does hold silent are threads that involve builds, complains about bugs, your own opinion about balances.
Why doesn’t ArenaNet reply to these threads?
The answer is easy: There is no way they can do that. This is not because people are flooding the forums with their self-made improvements, but because people have very different opinions about it. I am sure Anet DOES read them, and actually do form an opinion about it. But here is what happens if they react:
Option 1
They disaggree with your opinion, and people go hatin’ because people think they ARE right. This causes a negative discussion on the forums.
Option 2
They aggree. Other people go hatin’ like “Not true!” or “Why didn’t you reply to the thread I made?!”. Next to that if Anet aggrees with an opinion people expect it to see happen in the near future, which they definetly can’t do because they have more kitten to do, making people angry again like “You said this could be a good balance but still not patched??!”.

In short:
ArenaNet doesn’t want to promise anything they can’t realise yet. They are realistic.

People, your threads ARE being watched. Don’t cry that you don;t get comments from mods.

Thanks, Fvux.

The community in forums is too negative and fancy to generlize. ‘’The game is dying’‘, ’’everyone is leaving’’, ‘’omg, did you hear of that asian, grind festy MMO that is simliar to all other MMOs in asia and is pay to win like 99% of the MMOs in asia, yea yea, it will kill GW2’’.
No offense, I know the game does have alot of flaws and Anet have been focusing on the LS, ignoring alot of stuff, however such statements are inaccurate. People will leave and others will come, GW2 is in a stable state that it won’t get affected that much anylonger, just like WoW, and even if the player-base is far less than the WoW-playerbase obviously, most of them fancy the game and have faith that someday we will see a change.
There is nothing called Anet is the worst company, Blizzard have done the same and worse, takint even longer to solve issues while forum have literally been full of complaints for 10 years. I understand many want the game to get better and that the potentional is huge, but try to be realistic and post feedback instead of spreading a negative attitude, it won’t solve anything.
The coming period may become huge for GW2, it may not too if Anet doesn’t use the chance. Will there be another chance? Sure. Will you wait for that time? Perhaps not and it is your choice to enjoy your time otherwise until perhaps someday you return and enjoy it again.
You don’t support a game by negative attitude, you do that but giving valueable reasons for why you really want this game to be viable for you and why you want to play it. If you aren’t interested of supporting and tired of the gameplay, there is alot of other options, enjoy your time people and don’t let the negative attitude mess up the time you can use to enjoy other stuff.
I wish everyone great luck with their journey, wether with us or sadly without us in another game. It will be great if you stay but I can’t force you to leave. However try at least to be realsitic when leaving or staying, stating your motives instead of spreading rumors we have been hearing in the MMO industry for 15 years and that none really believes, wether they are accurate or not.

Scourge.4317:

Ethics.4519:

I agree. I haven’t completely left yet, but I’m on my way out.

Their silence and lack of communication is a core issue. The neglect of dungeons and focus on a crappy living story is another part.

Lack of communication? This the only MMO where devs actually get in game and play with the community. I have never seen devs care so much about their game as Arenanet does. You have entire CDI threads with the devs talking with the players trying to better the game. They pop up in every now and then on random threads just to let people know they are listening. Why people keep bringing up communication as a problem is beyond me.

Because you haven’t seen better. ANet is far from the worst, but let me assure you, there are devs in the mmo industry makes ANet’s “efforts” pale in comparison. Posts discussing incompetency of ANet tend to get deleted, so if you truly want to know why I make this claim, feel free to further this discussion with me in PM.

Also, making dev posts at random threads does not necessarily mean they are listening. Do you not know the CDI threads have a reputation of “just for show”. I think I am seeing why… they come in and post, toying with ideas, but then nothing happens beyond mere talks.

Scourge.4317:

Ethics.4519:

I agree. I haven’t completely left yet, but I’m on my way out.

Their silence and lack of communication is a core issue. The neglect of dungeons and focus on a crappy living story is another part.

Lack of communication? This the only MMO where devs actually get in game and play with the community. I have never seen devs care so much about their game as Arenanet does. You have entire CDI threads with the devs talking with the players trying to better the game. They pop up in every now and then on random threads just to let people know they are listening. Why people keep bringing up communication as a problem is beyond me.

I would have to argue that Anet’s communication is pretty average. And things like CDI aren’t new. When it was playing LoL every so often a member if the Nerf/buff team for the game would ask how the playerbase feels about ______potential game change. Artists would often draw things for the players out of fun. Staff would come in and make jokes, yes, but there would be a lot of serious discussion, even in repeat threads.

I wouldn’t consider ANet to be giving its playerbase the cold shoulder, but it would say that they could be a bit more active. And also, perhaps more serious posts outside the CDI and less joke posts or posts that are just generally pointless.

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

And also, perhaps more serious posts outside the CDI and less joke posts or posts that are just generally pointless.

This is something I’ve seen quite a bit of. Posts in threads that are just praise, silly discussions, or minor/visual bugs, while there are very active threads on serious issues that go without a dev response for weeks. Even something as simple as “We’re aware of this, and looking into it” is many times better than no response at all.

If you’re going to take the time to post silly things, which shows that you are reading the forums, then at least acknowledge the real issues being brought up. The message I get from that particular silence is that they don’t want to acknowledge the problem, because that gives the expectation of them actually fixing it. We know they read the forums, we know they see the threads, so there is no reason to pretend they don’t know about the issues. Acting like the problem doesn’t exist is just unprofessional in my opinion.

The V.8759:

Currently more people are coming back to the game than there are leaving

I disagree with almost your whole post, but I’m interested in what source you have to claim this, or if it’s just your personal belief.

Only skimmed through the thread, but what I’ve seen about the changes coming in Apr 15th patch (and some others they are still thinking over about implementing), I’d say they listen quite a bit…
At least half of the stuff mentioned are something players suggested one time or the next, and most of them are not minor.

Freeelancer.2860:

Only skimmed through the thread, but what I’ve seen about the changes coming in Apr 15th patch (and some others they are still thinking over about implementing), I’d say they listen quite a bit…
At least half of the stuff mentioned are something players suggested one time or the next, and most of them are not minor.

We see this almost everytime. Then patch hits and half of it is implemented because they didn’t say it would be in the NEXT patch, just that it’s in the works….

Edit: Not to mention it seems they have only accounced the trait changes so far. 10% increase to wars dual wielding? Lol. As if axe/mace needed a buff.

Ethics.4519:

Edit: Not to mention it seems they have only accounced the trait changes so far. 10% increase to wars dual wielding? Lol. As if axe/mace needed a buff.

Just giving them back the damage they will lose in the crit/ferocity nerf.

Make it look like you’re changing the zerker/heavy meta with one change, and slip the zerker wars’ “lost DPS” back into the game in another form.

This game is definitely dead: the mindless zerging in Living World, countless overflows, 200+ people queued in World vs World reset day in Eternal Battlegrounds, being stampeded in Edge of the Mists, flooding mapchats, and burn me like Ascalon I’m seeing players walking literally in Divinity’s Reach.

Oh hey, why are there so many Guild Wars 2 blog posts, Facebook updates, short stories in Flickr (what in balthazar’s name – flickr!?)? Arena Net must be extremely silent… No wonder their game is dead.

What were they doing in PAX 2013 and gave away $10,000 U.S. dollars? The game is supposed to be dead, right OP?

mrstealth.6701:

Ethics.4519:

Edit: Not to mention it seems they have only accounced the trait changes so far. 10% increase to wars dual wielding? Lol. As if axe/mace needed a buff.

Just giving them back the damage they will lose in the crit/ferocity nerf.

Make it look like you’re changing the zerker/heavy meta with one change, and slip the zerker wars’ “lost DPS” back into the game in another form.

haha, good point, I didn’t even think about that, partially because I lost interest right before ‘ferocity’ was announced.

Exosferatu.2961:

Oh hey, why are there so many Guild Wars 2 blog posts, Facebook updates, short stories in Flickr (what in balthazar’s name – flickr!?)? Arena Net must be extremely silent… No wonder their game is dead.

Agreed. Random blog posts, facebook likes, and short stories really keep a game alive. /thread

Exosferatu.2961:

This game is definitely dead: the mindless zerging in Living World, countless overflows, 200+ people queued in World vs World reset day in Eternal Battlegrounds, being stampeded in Edge of the Mists, flooding mapchats, and burn me like Ascalon I’m seeing players walking literally in Divinity’s Reach.

Oh hey, why are there so many Guild Wars 2 blog posts, Facebook updates, short stories in Flickr (what in balthazar’s name – flickr!?)? Arena Net must be extremely silent… No wonder their game is dead.

What were they doing in PAX 2013 and gave away $10,000 U.S. dollars? The game is supposed to be dead, right OP?

+1

I always wonder how people qualify a game as “dead” when they’re posting in that game’s online forum.

The team that decided to “nerf” crit damage must have forgot to send that memo to the teams that made the zerker DPS test Knight events and this new trait update.

The see the words saying “fix the current zerker/heavy meta”, but I’m not seeing the actions that will actually do that. I see one token nerf that effects zerker and non-zerker alike, and content that reinforces the need for zerker along with a new trait that ensures warriors won’t actually lose DPS.

mrstealth.6701:

The team that decided to “nerf” crit damage must have forgot to send that memo to the teams that made the zerker DPS test Knight events and this new trait update.

The see the words saying “fix the current zerker/heavy meta”, but I’m not seeing the actions that will actually do that. I see one token nerf that effects zerker and non-zerker alike, and content that reinforces the need for zerker along with a new trait that ensures warriors won’t actually lose DPS.

“LFG Zerker warriors ONLY”

Just +1’ing this thread in general. Start paying attention to your community or you won’t have one. Pretty simple stuff.

I’m still cautiously optimistic about ANET’s communication. While it drives me absolutely insane that they can see a thread go for 100 pages or 50 threads pop up about an issue (cough Fractal reset cough) and go without a single response or discussion point.

I do see positive things come from discussions that they do have with the players. A LOT of the things that players have brought up over the last 6 months have actually seen in-game changes. Even now, it looks like we will finally get account-dye unlocks and a PVE wardrobe. Will it be implemented exactly like players want? Probably not, but it is something that players asked for in CDI and they are responding.

Can they improve communication? OH heck yes! Their communication seems to be that of a two-headed giant when it comes to the small things…the recent debacle over pulling the vendors after Lion’s arch shows that. Most players had no idea the vendors would leave because their only communication was a single post on the News forum. Meanwhile, they had fantastic communication regarding the WvW point reset. The left head is afraid to talk while the right head just keeps blabbing away. This seems to be the case in a lot of their communication / vs / non-communication. It’s like their “communication” department doesnt have a leader or a set of policies on how to communicate to the player base, so each person making an announcement just “wings it.”

I think the thing that people have to remember is that it takes as much as 4 months some times for a “discussion” to become something in-game. Someone brought up that the “zerker meta needs to be nerfed” people didn’t talk to the “Knights” people. The “zerker meta” is still the “Meta” right now…and the “Knights” were coming out right now…so the Knights still use the “zerker meta”. The “zerker meta needs to be nerfed” discussion only happened a month ago….and is being changed in April…thats pretty fast.

Let’s see what comes out 3 months from now after the “zerker meta needs to be nerfed” group implements their changes (in the Feature release). Will we still have “zerker meta” fights then? I have no idea…

But handing out infractions rather than opening a dialog when their customers try to discuss issues with them is a terrible practice.

dlonie.6547:

But handing out infractions rather than opening a dialog when their customers try to discuss issues with them is a terrible practice.

I concur, but, the truth is sometimes hard to handle by some.

dlonie.6547:

But handing out infractions rather than opening a dialog when their customers try to discuss issues with them is a terrible practice.

The two functions are going to be handled by separate staff.

IndigoSundown.5419:

dlonie.6547:

But handing out infractions rather than opening a dialog when their customers try to discuss issues with them is a terrible practice.

The two functions are going to be handled by separate staff.

Yep, mods != devs. The point is, both groups could be handling community dialog much, much better. Or at all, in the case of the specialized subforums (I know dungeons is a wasteland for sure, and I hear many of the others are similarly ignored).

dlonie.6547:

IndigoSundown.5419:

dlonie.6547:

But handing out infractions rather than opening a dialog when their customers try to discuss issues with them is a terrible practice.

The two functions are going to be handled by separate staff.

Yep, mods != devs. The point is, both groups could be handling community dialog much, much better. Or at all, in the case of the specialized subforums (I know dungeons is a wasteland for sure, and I hear many of the others are similarly ignored).

Just look at the archived fractured update for all the evidence you need. And yes, dungeons thread fell into that fate along time ago, when Robert was let go. The only dev posts nowadays are joke necros of robert “looking into something” 6-7 months ago that still exists today.

Ethics.4519:

dlonie.6547:

IndigoSundown.5419:

dlonie.6547:

But handing out infractions rather than opening a dialog when their customers try to discuss issues with them is a terrible practice.

The two functions are going to be handled by separate staff.

Yep, mods != devs. The point is, both groups could be handling community dialog much, much better. Or at all, in the case of the specialized subforums (I know dungeons is a wasteland for sure, and I hear many of the others are similarly ignored).

Just look at the archived fractured update for all the evidence you need. And yes, dungeons thread fell into that fate along time ago, when Robert was let go. The only dev posts nowadays are joke necros of robert “looking into something” 6-7 months ago that still exists today.

I really miss His “Hey, what do you think of this patch?” threads. That’s right folks, an ArenaNet employee used to start threads asking for feedback on patches.

No wonder they let Him go.

Edited for proper capitalization.

I still play every now and then , so many games to play , so little time. My guess is like others have said balance and stuff not getting fixed. One example is the filter for the trading post , still the worst one ever, unreal it hasn’t been tinkered with yet.

People leave GW2 after they realize that the end game for PvE is massive zergs or DPS only races. There is no teamwork necessary. No skill. Minimal participation required. One dimensional. CC is disabled for all boss PvE. And so forth…

People play GW2 for PvP only as it is the only aspect of the game that has any functionality…

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Hybarf Tics.2048:

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My server’s full of people at all hours. Perhaps you mistook your server’s players transferring out as a sign they quit?

I’m pretty sure you know that the exact numbers aren’t revealed per server and there’s alot of guesting going on.

While I doubt people leave because of the silence it has been a problem since post launch. We need more communication not less on when where why etc. It’s happened in every game I’ve played, they’ve had to hire a community group to handle announcements and keep the players informed. When these other titles have done just that (these people communicate directly with the devs btw) the community calms down because they know what to expect.

tigirius.9014:

It’s happened in every game I’ve played, they’ve had to hire a community group to handle announcements and keep the players informed. When these other titles have done just that (these people communicate directly with the devs btw) the community calms down because they know what to expect.

They’ve had a community management team all along. Some of them have been around since GW1 days, years before GW2’s release.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Category:Community_coordinators

The thread title says it all. I really loved GW2… for a while. I’ll miss Tyria a little I guess, but I’m very excited about my move to Tamriel. Maybe I’ll see some familiar faces there.

Many people leave and many others come, it is how the MMO industry is.

mrstealth.6701:

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

And also, perhaps more serious posts outside the CDI and less joke posts or posts that are just generally pointless.

This is something I’ve seen quite a bit of. Posts in threads that are just praise, silly discussions, or minor/visual bugs, while there are very active threads on serious issues that go without a dev response for weeks. Even something as simple as “We’re aware of this, and looking into it” is many times better than no response at all.

If you’re going to take the time to post silly things, which shows that you are reading the forums, then at least acknowledge the real issues being brought up. The message I get from that particular silence is that they don’t want to acknowledge the problem, because that gives the expectation of them actually fixing it. We know they read the forums, we know they see the threads, so there is no reason to pretend they don’t know about the issues. Acting like the problem doesn’t exist is just unprofessional in my opinion.

I think this a major problem personally. I remember in the LoL forums, devs and players would actively debate the mathematics between various items and characters and stats and all the like. And I don’t see as much of that here. Over here we get one CDI and that’s more like ANet says, “Uh huh, sure. We’ll consider it”. Then you have the interview from last year where what’s his face basically answered every question with, “It’s not off the table”.

I can understand ANet doesn’t need to respond to “GW2 NEEDS MOHNTS THREAD NO 49475859”. That’s fair enough. But if you can discuss the Super Bowl which I’d say is pretty much reportable for being off topic, I think you can invest the time to actually contribute and discuss more serious posts as well.

I think people leave the game because they don’t like the game, not because the developers stay silent.

Have you ever seen another game that has the developers constantly making threads to talk through ideas and suggestions?

I’ve played a couple games where developers were willing to discuss kitten near anything, but those were mostly “indie” or “small studio” games…

… and the end result of a lot of that discussion changed next to kitten all.

Logged on to Tarnished Coast today, everywhere was dead. Used to be one of the biggest servers but now you’re lucky to see anyone in the open world.

GW2 is dead, if it wasn’t the front page would be shouting about something other than selling a lot of games 2 years ago and winning some awards even further back than that. GW2 keeps going on sale as well, never a good sign.

Every time a dev says something publicly, they risk getting fired. Everything they say has to obey non-disclosure policies, has to be 100% politically correct, has to be non-inflammatory, and must not harm the company’s image. It’s nigh impossible to respect all of these criteria to the letter. No matter how benign a dev post may seem, somehow it always stirs up some amount of trouble. It’s a miracle we get any dev response at all.

I mean would you participate in an optional activity related to your job if there was a high risk of losing said job by doing said activity?

Things can be announced by devs without them getting fired if the company as a whole approves it. The question is why doesn’t Anet have anything approvable to say?

It seems to me that the vast majority of players leave MMOs because they get bored or dislike a particular change that happened. They move on to other games.

I think lack of good content (mindless zerging every 2 weeks for the past year is not good content), no end game (other than fractals really), balance patches so far and few between, PvP being not what they said it would, idiotic changes to systems that work fine but could have been fixed/better with slight tweaking (removal of glory gain and what not).

Stupid patches that don’t address issues that should be addressed, stuff that make little to no sense (removing glory and not putting another system in place while removing it at the same time giving pvp players no real incentive other than it’s pvp), and overall just dumb choices from the devs.

If anything just readd glory gain till they can either fix the problems with it or leave it as is. Glory is gw2s version of balth faction. You used balth faction in gw1 to unlock skills for pvp, or in the case of most people who never ventured past 3 builds zkeys. You use glory to get new item skins.

Now they’re changing the trait system because it’s too confusing? Confusing to who people who never played a game? People who don’t look over the internet? You’re told how to spend your trait points when you get one and I haven’t forgot that since LEVELING MY WARRIOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. So they’re dumbing the traits down to the level a 2 year old can figure out. Oh and you’ll also have to buy your traits from what I read. HURRAY MORE MONEY SINKS THATS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED IN THIS GAME.

ANet has nobody to blame but themselves for people leaving.

Of all the people I bought this game with only I remain the others have gone back to league of legends, PoE, dota2 and some other game because the lack of balance updates, lack of pvp variety (capture points? really?), lack of end game content amongst other small menial things. Catering to casual players is viable strategy(league of legends made a bajillion dollars off of it) but you still need to appease the hardcore players.

Also a lack of communication from devs is a large reason why some games literally just go down. ANet you should look into a game called dungeon fighter online, it would appear your game is literally headed into the same direction that game went.

Travis the Terrible.4739:

I think lack of good content (mindless zerging every 2 weeks for the past year is not good content), no end game (other than fractals really), balance patches so far and few between, PvP being not what they said it would, idiotic changes to systems that work fine but could have been fixed/better with slight tweaking (removal of glory gain and what not).

Stupid patches that don’t address issues that should be addressed, stuff that make little to no sense (removing glory and not putting another system in place while removing it at the same time giving pvp players no real incentive other than it’s pvp), and overall just dumb choices from the devs.

If anything just readd glory gain till they can either fix the problems with it or leave it as is. Glory is gw2s version of balth faction. You used balth faction in gw1 to unlock skills for pvp, or in the case of most people who never ventured past 3 builds zkeys. You use glory to get new item skins.

Now they’re changing the trait system because it’s too confusing? Confusing to who people who never played a game? People who don’t look over the internet? You’re told how to spend your trait points when you get one and I haven’t forgot that since LEVELING MY WARRIOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO. So they’re dumbing the traits down to the level a 2 year old can figure out. Oh and you’ll also have to buy your traits from what I read. HURRAY MORE MONEY SINKS THATS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED IN THIS GAME.

ANet has nobody to blame but themselves for people leaving.

Of all the people I bought this game with only I remain the others have gone back to league of legends, PoE, dota2 and some other game because the lack of balance updates, lack of pvp variety (capture points? really?), lack of end game content amongst other small menial things. Catering to casual players is viable strategy(league of legends made a bajillion dollars off of it) but you still need to appease the hardcore players.

Also a lack of communication from devs is a large reason why some games literally just go down. ANet you should look into a game called dungeon fighter online, it would appear your game is literally headed into the same direction that game went.

First of all, I don’t think you can compare any game managed by Nexon to basically any other game on the planet not managed by Nexon in terms of communication. Nexon is basically the very embodiment of not giving a kitten about your players.

Second of all, your analysis on traits changes is very … for the lack of a better word, wrong. It wasn’t changed because it was too confusing, but because there was literally no point in spending points in not multiples of 5s. You don’t have to buy traits, you’re ‘supposed’ to go out in the world and explore to find them, the buying is just an alternative for people who don’t want to explore.

You also missed the fact that PvP would give gold (if it doesn’t already), and I would assume you get gear from it too, since PvP and PvE gear will be transferable in the future.

I’m not sure what you want with endgame. I want raids, but if you want raids that are locked behind tiers of gear like how its traditionally done, which is what I’m getting from your post, then no, no thank you.

I agree with the lack of good content however. Content lately has been very enjoyable but open world raids only are fun up to an extent.

About 90% of the time I have taken a break from this game it is because I got involved in the forum and the constant negativity convinced me to go do something else. The dev’s silence is only a portion of the problem; the rampant and unchecked kittening in the general forum is typically what does someone in. This community is absolutely terrible.

I think more people leave because they get burned out of zerging queensdale all the time instead of experiencing the game as a whole. Does anyone even fight the dragons anymore? >.<

I stopped playing because the vast majority of the WvW players on my server ran off during S1, and it became a boring as hell circle cap karma train with no action. I didn’t feel like grinding boring pve crap for gold, or paying 20$ to transfer so I just turned my attention to other games. I still keep an eye on the ongoing development in the event that Anet does something to revitalize my interest in the game, and occasionally poke in for the odd post or log in to see if there is by some great chance something fun going on in EBG.

It had nothing to do with arenanet not pumping out announcements for everything they do like twitter.

Enzeru.2789:

I think more people leave because they get burned out of zerging queensdale all the time instead of experiencing the game as a whole. Does anyone even fight the dragons anymore? >.<

wth does “experience the game as a whole” mean in this stage of GW2’s lifespan?? Some types of content appeal to some players, and it is logical that players prefer some content of the game over other. There hasn’t been and will not be a magical update that adds something to the game that’s everybody gonna love any play the hell out of it. A more logical solution is for ANet to identify the strata of players, see how many people prefer which kind of gameplay and iterate on the existing content as well as introducing new content (in a piecemeal fashion).

Lack of content and updates to outdated systems is why a lot of my friends have quit. The living story content has only held onto people for so long. Its nice they are finally putting out big “feature” patches to keep things a little more fresh but I’m not sure if it will be enough.

Threads like this should be locked and deleated.

Ofcourse that is why this game has so many leavers in your opinion!
But there is no truth to it what so ever, you have no fact and no real numbers. Someone said over 70% has left most servers accept one server!? How the kitten-in-a-deep-place could he/she even know that!? Not even the devs could know that. I mean when I started playing this game (headstart player) I joined a guild made by my friends and their friends. A few months later the guild was dead, all my friends had gone back to WoW, Lotro, SwtoR and other games… I am still in this guild but I don’t represent it, but I check it now and then and when I look more and more old players are comming back. This game is free, you don’t pay sub so there is no point in “leaving” the game and when all other games are booring you come back and play GW2 since it is all FREE! So once again how can someone say that “this many has left the game” when the only ones who have left this game is those who have terminated their accouts and those who are perma-banned.

I don’t know what’s so special with last week, but I got alot of questions about GW2 and now two are playing the game as I write this and one is just waiting for his salary and then he will play. They have also said that their friends has been looking at it and as they now have friends playing the game they will buy it. Well this is just my life but this happens all around the world and once you bought this game you can more or less come back whenever you wan’t.

hmm… Did I make any sence…
After reading and seeing what is comming in april I would be supriced if no one will be logging in and having a look. If the update is good they may stay for a while and give A-net a few $

Daddar.5971:

The thread title says it all. I really loved GW2… for a while. I’ll miss Tyria a little I guess, but I’m very excited about my move to Tamriel. Maybe I’ll see some familiar faces there.

I’m sure you’ll see familiar faces. People expecting too much, outraged and horribly disappointed. That’s what you’ll see. It may take a month two, but I doubt it.

Anet’s silence isn’t worse than most company’s silence.