“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
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…. should be removed.
Yes its just a pixels and 95% of guild wars population wont become animal abusers because of that but we have children playing here. Proposing that bashing rabbits or kitties to death is rewardable ( which is what anet is suggesting here ) is wrong and i bet in some form – illegal.
Yes yes this is a game but we have too much violence in games already, why add more?
More than anything, I found this new daily to be incredibly depressing. It could have been done differently. Instead of the “TeeHee, funny to kill helpless animals” angle, they could have done “Ah kitten! ANOTHER bunny got in my way!”
But no. They took the cutesy, typical negative mmo angle. I think that’s what gets me. Yes, it is just a game and yes you kill lots of other things, but it’s the intention behind it. I got so sick and tired of all the anti-heroic elements in WoW (tormenting baby gorillas until the mother comes out- you then kill her, the numerous torturing quests, the mini game where you kill a child’s pet and dance around her while she weeps…)
Its just all so…childish and negative.
This is not saying that people are then going to go around killing small animals. However, it does bring the tone of the game down to the level of a child who enjoys ripping the wings off of butterflies.
These elements are not mature. They are not funny. They are reminiscent of the environment many people fled in other mmo’s. The more they add content like this, the more the community will reflect it and then you really are back to WoW.
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You can play my little pony online.
There is no bashing there.
All rabbits are evil and need to be killed on sight.
I find this is a weird stance when one is already playing a computer game that ‘promotes’ genocide in various ways. There are various achievements involving the slaying of different types of creatues around the world, and most of those creatues resemble human civilization during various thresholds of human progression. (Grawl engaging in religious / social rituals).
Also all kinds of rewards involve the ‘commiting’ of partwise extinction of whatever species one encounters.
The slaying of ambient life just doesn’t compare to that.
As for the respect for children, it’s the same argument as above. Why would you want (y)our children to engage in genocidal activity anyway? And if not always genocidal, then usually violent and destructive.
Cheers.
For the love of God, remove all forms of killing other players in the game, it teaches our children to kill one another. Think of the children!
Even without the daily, there’s already a slayer achievement for killing ambient animals, so… everyone is currently and always being rewarded for killing animals. Too late to complain, really. The children are already corrupted!
Plus, the best way to earn the ‘massive damage in a single hit’ achievement is through a solid punt to the bunny.
No.
I like dailies that reward me for the things I do anyway.
Blood of bunnies!
No, seriously, I thought RPG’s were about choices, so why not let people make their own choices?
And illegal? really? If that’s illegal I will get a dead sentence for all the crimes I’ve commited in the GTA series
Oooooh another discussion about how kids become violent because of video games. The game is already rated (T, so that makes it 13+?). If you think your kid isn’t intelligent enough to distinguish between what is acceptable and what is not then don’t let him play
So which is it ALF or PETA? You cant be serious about this you’re talking about a game where you run around killing everything in sight . This includes bears ,trees,Humans,Worms,Fish and Chicken to name a few. Perhaps you should look yourself in the mirror ans see if Jack Thompson looks back ….lets hope not .
Killing other humanoids, deer, bears, wolves, whatever, but oh no.. not dat cure wittle wabbit. No kid, adult or otherwise that is right in the head will equate killing ambient creatures to bashing real rabbits etc to death. Now if your kids do equate it to that, you obviously need to have a talk with your kids. And if they do go out and kill bunnies or whatever after playing the game and doing ambient killer, there was probably already something wrong with them in the first place, and they need serious help… So dont blame the game.
Personally, I find the little cabin in godslost swamp to be the perfect place to do ambient killer. Tons and tons of frogs and ravens there.
The more they add content like this, the more the community will reflect it and then you really are back to WoW.
So we don’t have to go back to WoW – WoW came to us
I do not see how killing rabbits can be considered worse than for example kill 15 mobs from different species or kill 40 mobs. Really they not different from any other mob and even more they are animals who get slaughtered and eaten in real live too.
Noone complained about killing sentient beeings in this game so far (or maybe I overread it) but because it’s cute and fluffy it’s not appropriate anymore? I have way more problems killing skrit or grawl than those rabbits and stuff. My Norn is a hunter and she is definitely no vegetarian. But if you don’t like that quest noone forces you you can still choose something different.
Yeah! Nobody complains about killing wolves and spiders and they are at least 20% cooler than bunnies. Wolves and spiders have been vilified them in video games for decades. I blame Tolkien.
Just a little bunny he said……..
….. You clearly havent seen monty python search for the holy grail. you have no idea how evil and vicious bunnies are.
All we need now is a kill 50 quaggan achivement and all willl be well man i hate those things
I propose we double the ambient killer requirement to 100 rabbits and kitties.
Just a little bunny he said……..
….. You clearly havent seen monty python search for the holy grail. you have no idea how evil and vicious bunnies are.
Not to mention the champion rabbit in the “crazy cat asura” fractal holding area. After getting oneshotted by it, I kill any rabbit on sight just to be on the safe side. Never trust a rabbit!
And for those who havent seen mony python’s search for the holy grail, here is why you should never trust a rabbit!
Even without the daily, there’s already a slayer achievement for killing ambient animals, so… everyone is currently and always being rewarded for killing animals. Too late to complain, really. The children are already corrupted!
Plus, the best way to earn the ‘massive damage in a single hit’ achievement is through a solid punt to the bunny.
Actually the best way is to do CoE Story. The things you kill defending the golem through the radiation hallway will get hit for over half a million damage with the gun it gives you, guaranteed.
Thank you to the OP..I needed a laugh while the servers are down, Erm you weren’t serious were you ?
Gotta hand it to the OP.. I didn’t think this troll would be successful. Shows me never to underestimate the internet.
It’s a very fine line you’re drawing there…
Almost everything out in the explorable world is designed to be slain.
People have their own moral compass pointing them to what is right and wrong.
Exactly. It’s a game and the choice people make. Things like that shouldn’t be encouraged, but neither are they. Almost any gamer can seperate real life from the game, those that can’t need more help than a game can offer. It’s a fantasy thing and we humans like to see where we can draw the line, whether that is in games, music or something else and that’s also where it ends: as soon as we know where the line is drawn we stop right there. People can and should choose to do whatever they like.
As someone else has stated, I kill rats and spiders. You don’t need to kill bunnies to get this daily done.
In real life, I eat chicken but won’t eat rabbit. I eat beef but won’t eat veal. We each set our own moral compass and have to follow it as best we can. Don’t do the daily if it bothers you, problem solved
I love the implication that 5% of the GW2 populations, equaling thousands of people, will become animal abusers as a result of this daily.
I usually do that one under water. There are certain places with tons of ambient fish.
Nobody cares about killing fish. Unless it’s the cute ones.
what rabbits?
but if I can’t kill bunnies how will I reap the souls of the innocent en masse to fuel my deathshroud? (everyone knows that the innocent souls are the most tasty)
One of the reasons I quit. They may as well have added a daily for clubbing baby seals.
You have to wonder what the devs where thinking. In GW1, the brown rabbit in pre was always a favorite. The rabbit potions and the rabbit minis where also always very popular. So what do they do in GW2? turn them in to something to kill for points.
If they think that way, why can’t the charr toons hunt the human children for thier dailies?
BTW, while playing I had a bunny who would many times sit next to me to get his head rubbed. Rabbits are the 3rd most popular pet in the world right behind dogs and cats, so those of you making the rude comments are just showing your ignorance, and thats another reason I gave up on this game. Tired or dealing with players like that.
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Lol I kill those animals without a daily.
One of the reasons I quit. They may as well have added a daily for clubbing baby seals.
You have to wonder what the devs where thinking. In GW1, the brown rabbit in pre was always a favorite. The rabbit potions and the rabbit minis where also always very popular. So what do they do in GW2? turn them in to something to kill for points.
If they think that way, why can’t the charr toons hunt the human children for thier dailies?
because human children, while delicious, are sapient and therefore off limits
(amusingly, it’s implied that SYLVARI are the most likely to try and eat the other races, there is a conversation between some NPCs in caledon that tells us that sylvari start getting hungry for meat when theyre around other races)
as for your edit: rabbits are also eaten in many countries, and in places like australia, are killed en masse by using a modified disease called myxamatosis, pet rabbits and wild rabbits are not the same thing, I’m sure nobody would intentionally kill somebody’s beloved pet, which is what you’re implying
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do i need to remind you that this game is rated T for teen..
if there are people under the age of 13 playing this game (aka “children”), you have other things to worry about (negligent parents, etc)
^^ This – all the way. If you let your child play this, you/the parent in question has far more serious issues than the game allowing “ambient” animals being killed.
That’s the new Daily for you. Always pushing players to do things that don’t fit in with their desired play style.
That’s the typical forum poster for you. Always whining about something that doesn’t exist.
Nobody is making you do ANYTHING in this game.
Well, that’s some silly logic if I’ve ever heard any. Because we can apply it to any questionable mechanic in this game and simply say “nobody forces you to turn the computer on..!”.
Yes, nobody forces me to run rabbits through with my sword, but if I want a reward that is a result of the Daily and the other options on the Daily are even less appealing, then guess what I have to do to complete the Daily?
I don’t normally run around smacking ambient critters while I travel. I don’t normally drag a fight out much longer than it needs to be just to work in some extra dodges. I don’t normally perform a much more risky dodge THROUGH mobs instead of away from them to get finicky credit for evading an attack. I don’t normally sit there and let mobs beat on me so I can score an extra revive before all the other players doing the same thing clear away the opportunities. I don’t normal travel specifically to zone-X to complete task-Y when I had no intention of playing there prior to seeing the requirement for finishing the Daily. The list goes on.
Fact is, the original Daily used to have some fairly generic tasks that fit in well with whatever activity we all enjoyed doing. We could just log on and proceed with our plans and we were likely to complete the four tasks: kill quantity, kill variety, gathering, and event quantity. But now, the Daily has changed from its original intention of rewarding players for just playing the game to a busy-work end-game device, and completing the Daily requires players to often jump through some very specific hoops that often move them away from their normal activities.
In other words, the Daily has gone from something you just happen to complete by playing normally, to something you specifically spend time and effort working on to complete.
By the way, to touch on your comment.. you seem to be “whining” about other forum posters. Isn’t that pretty typical too? Nobody’s making you read these forums.
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The best thing about playing a Flamethrower Engi is the efficiency of turning bunnies into twitching tufts of ash.
I can’t help but kill them anyways, those rabbits are either not intelligent or not fast enough to run away from me. One AOE skill and the collateral toll went up again. Should call them collateral skills – use only in secured areas! Evacuate innocent ambient creatures first.
The best thing about playing a Flamethrower Engi is the efficiency of turning bunnies into twitching tufts of ash.
as a necro, I find life transfer more effective, 5 rabbits per pulse, each only takes one pulse to kill, and there are about 8 pulses, that’s 40 rabbits in one attack
You have a problem with killing little creatures but have no problem committing genocide against Ogres or grawl just because someone thinks they’re a nuisance and wants you to?
The best thing about playing a Flamethrower Engi is the efficiency of turning bunnies into twitching tufts of ash.
as a necro, I find life transfer more effective, 5 rabbits per pulse, each only takes one pulse to kill, and there are about 8 pulses, that’s 40 rabbits in one attack
I find efficiency to be less of a factor than amusement.
Yeah you can butcher them en masse with some abilities, but killing them with Frozen Burst is just so much more satisfying.
And I stand by the assertion that if the devs didn’t want us butchering bunnies, they wouldn’t have given them special Fire, Freeze, and Shock death animations.
You have a problem with killing little creatures but have no problem committing genocide against Ogres or grawl just because someone thinks they’re a nuisance and wants you to?
or worse, in the pre-lost shores info, it was implied that the karka are a sapient race that are fiercely territorial, much like the red hylek.
the consortium wanted us to wipe them out so they could build a holiday resort at southsun.
we committed genocide and murdered babies and children for PROFIT, and people are upset at killing 30 rabbits
The best thing about playing a Flamethrower Engi is the efficiency of turning bunnies into twitching tufts of ash.
as a necro, I find life transfer more effective, 5 rabbits per pulse, each only takes one pulse to kill, and there are about 8 pulses, that’s 40 rabbits in one attack
Where is this area with a large population of rabbits? We have to put warning signs up.
High Risk of collateral damage, avoid fighting.
(P.S. Locust Swarm – why stop when you can just keep going?)
Yeah! Nobody complains about killing wolves and spiders and they are at least 20% cooler than bunnies.
-twitch-
Wolves and spiders have been vilified them in video games for decades. I blame Tolkien.
You don’t need to blame Tolkien for wolves, you need to blame whichever culture needed them to be evil for being predators. Be aware, the oldest of stories about wolves generally run a fine line . . . fear the wolf if you wish but respect the wolf, don’t hate it. They are/were an apex predator, incredibly good at what they do. I can probably run out and find two dozen tales where wolves are good. (We can start with Wheel of Time or Game of Thrones if you like.)
Also, a nitpick, but Tolkien had “wargs” which were not wolves
Spiders, I have to seriously try to find something where they are good or at least not an enemy. That said I don’t have a problem with spiders so long as they don’t come crawling up my leg. They keep the insect pest infestation down to a manageable level
The best thing about playing a Flamethrower Engi is the efficiency of turning bunnies into twitching tufts of ash.
as a necro, I find life transfer more effective, 5 rabbits per pulse, each only takes one pulse to kill, and there are about 8 pulses, that’s 40 rabbits in one attack
Where is this area with a large population of rabbits? We have to put warning signs up.
High Risk of collateral damage, avoid fighting.
(P.S. Locust Swarm – why stop when you can just keep going?)
it’s just theoretically that much, but I did get 15 at the shack near theshadow behemoth spawn :P
Yeah! Nobody complains about killing wolves and spiders and they are at least 20% cooler than bunnies.
-twitch-
Wolves and spiders have been vilified them in video games for decades. I blame Tolkien.
You don’t need to blame Tolkien for wolves, you need to blame whichever culture needed them to be evil for being predators. Be aware, the oldest of stories about wolves generally run a fine line . . . fear the wolf if you wish but respect the wolf, don’t hate it. They are/were an apex predator, incredibly good at what they do. I can probably run out and find two dozen tales where wolves are good. (We can start with Wheel of Time or Game of Thrones if you like.)
Also, a nitpick, but Tolkien had “wargs” which were not wolves
Spiders, I have to seriously try to find something where they are good or at least not an enemy. That said I don’t have a problem with spiders so long as they don’t come crawling up my leg. They keep the insect pest infestation down to a manageable level
charlotte’s web :P
(and possibly arachne from the greek myth, she was an arrogant prick, but in the end she’s a tragic figure who gets cursed because it turns out her arrogance is justified and the greek gods are total divas who hate to lose)
actually, spiders are the reason behind a reaction known as “The arachnid response”
it’s a bit like the uncanny valley, but the logical opposite, where the UV is “things are so like us they are scary” the arachnid response is “they are so different to us they are scary”
and it’s completely true,different size, different number of appendages, too many eyes, unusually intelligent way of hunting (unlike any other creature), skeleton on the outside, move too fast for their size and number of legs, can be hairy AND have a shell at te same time… they’re the closest thing we have to aliens on earth :P
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One of the reasons I quit. They may as well have added a daily for clubbing baby seals.
You have to wonder what the devs where thinking. In GW1, the brown rabbit in pre was always a favorite. The rabbit potions and the rabbit minis where also always very popular. So what do they do in GW2? turn them in to something to kill for points.
If they think that way, why can’t the charr toons hunt the human children for thier dailies?BTW, while playing I had a bunny who would many times sit next to me to get his head rubbed. Rabbits are the 3rd most popular pet in the world right behind dogs and cats, so those of you making the rude comments are just showing your ignorance, and thats another reason I gave up on this game. Tired or dealing with players like that.
You’re pretty judgmental. I sure hope you’re a vegetarian, or you’re a hypocrit.
Rabbits aren’t endangered and they’re enjoyed in many countries as a main course for dinner.
Saving animals isn’t about saving the cute ones. It’s about saving all animals. Killing a bear or wolves isn’t much different from killing a rabbit in my eyes. It’s all just spin.
When I am out in the world with my ranger she kills all those nasty critters on site! They are evil and worse than the minions of the dragons.
Spiders, I have to seriously try to find something where they are good or at least not an enemy. That said I don’t have a problem with spiders so long as they don’t come crawling up my leg. They keep the insect pest infestation down to a manageable level
When I am out in the world with my ranger she kills all those nasty critters on site! They are evil and worse than the minions of the dragons.
Sure, killing bunnies is fine if they’re in the process of trying to eat your face off.
To be fair, your character is a vegetable and that is a rabbit.
Yes, nobody forces me to run rabbits through with my sword, but if I want a reward that is a result of the Daily and the other options on the Daily are even less appealing, then guess what I have to do to complete the Daily?
in which case, it is your own choice to do the rabbit slaughter over the other ones, therefore you chose it of your own free will and have no right to complain that it’s tasteless :P
…. should be removed.
Yes its just a pixels and 95% of guild wars population wont become animal abusers because of that but we have children playing here. Proposing that bashing rabbits or kitties to death is rewardable ( which is what anet is suggesting here ) is wrong and i bet in some form – illegal.
Yes yes this is a game but we have too much violence in games already, why add more?
This game is to bright and cheerful. I want see the blood dripping off my weapon as I slaughter those helpless rabbits.
Spiders, I have to seriously try to find something where they are good or at least not an enemy. That said I don’t have a problem with spiders so long as they don’t come crawling up my leg. They keep the insect pest infestation down to a manageable level
This is the internet era so . . .“seriously try to find something” means “fifteen seconds on Google”
Point is, I couldn’t come up with either on the top of my head, but I could come up with a half dozen stories where wolves were either not the antagonists or were the antagonists without being evil.
Anansi is a really cool spider.^^ Spiders are only misunderstood.
And it’s not that I googled for “good spiders” or something I stumbled on it when I was looking about tricksters some time ago and I found it really interesting. So I appologise for linking an example.
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I actually wasn’t going to post cause I find the OPs claim just ridiculous…but because of this I had to:
You obviously didn’t see what those ‘innocent’ bunnies did to us in gw1 or you wouldn’t feel that way!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndkf1U_SdY4
No…no…NOOOOOO!! That is one of the most memorable parts of EotN for me, I loved it hahaha
I also remember the White Rabbit summon.
That thing . . . was something else.
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