“All permanent gathering tools will now be account bound rather than soulbound. For one week, account-bound versions of the Jack-in-the-Box Scythe and Bone Pick gathering tools will be available in the Services category of the Gem Store for 1000 gems each.
Previously purchased permanent gathering tools can be upgraded to account-bound versions by unequipping them and bringing them to a Black Lion Weapons Specialist.”
From today’s patch notes.
Thank you, ANet. The soulbinding was the sole reason I did not purchase these. Now that they are what I want them to be, I will
Yes thank you, thank you. Although I have already bought all available so far and planned to buy all that come in future (since I have 8 chars), having them account bound makes it that much easier to sort them to my chars that suit each best.
So thanks again.
Since when did this business of being a hero become being a business?
Yep milking it…….1000 gems now is definitely not worth it, since we can buy full sets of tools for next several years for all toons for less. There’s paying for convenience and there’s being gouged for convenience. This is on par with the pet rock.
Yep milking it…….1000 gems now is definitely not worth it, since we can buy full sets of tools for next several years for all toons for less. There’s paying for convenience and there’s being gouged for convenience. This is on par with the pet rock.
In terms of real life money → gems
You can buy 1 of each account….which equates to 3000, and simply pass them from character to character while you play….
Or you can buy one of each soulbound….which equates to 2400, and then multiply that for character you want a set on…
If you only have one character ever, the soulbound option does save you gems. However, if you’re like so many that have hollered for account binding these tools, it’s less expensive to get the account bound.
In terms of gold → gems
Yes, gold to gems conversions are outrageous, but some people will do it simply for the convenience. Some people are willing to pay for that convenience. It’s completely personal choice.
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
Yep milking it…….1000 gems now is definitely not worth it, since we can buy full sets of tools for next several years for all toons for less. There’s paying for convenience and there’s being gouged for convenience. This is on par with the pet rock.
Why in the world would you expect Anet to not only change the system from soulbound to accountbound, but also make it cheaper? Where is the logic in that?
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I will admit I feel a kitteneated, having bought some of the tools more than once so I could equip a couple characters, but!
That being said, it’s about kittening time that Arenanet started doing some changes like this! I am happy for the folks who are going to be able to take advantage of it. The players of GW2 deserve this sort of perk. Account bound stuff is cheap and gimmicky (looking at you, dyes).
Not going to herald this as a change of heart on Anets part. I suspect they did this because sales tapered off and now they need MOAR MONEY™
I’m not going to spring back and log into GW2 just yet, but I’ll certainly be paying attention again.
Where are my gem sales? I want gem sales! Nerf EVERYTHING!
Not going to herald this as a change of heart on Anets part. I suspect they did this because sales tapered off and now they need MOAR MONEY™
I am inclined to believe they did it because it was in high demand by their player base. There has been a loud cry from the community, in game and out, about wanting these account bound.
Understandably, they made the account bound versions slightly more expensive. You get more use out of it than it’s soulbound version, so it should cost more; however not drastically more so as to keep it appealing. Its standard business practice really. Ever bought a cell phone ‘bundle’ because the accessories were slightly cheaper that route? Lots of examples of this practice in every day life, if you take a step back and think about it.
They also listened to the players’ request to see Marjory’s and Kasmeer’s weapon skins directly purchasable. No RNG in the way. Definitely a step in the right direction, imo.
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
Why in the world would you expect Anet to not only change the system from soulbound to accountbound, but also make it cheaper? Where is the logic in that?
Who said anything about making the infinite tools cheaper?
About time! Thank you ANet for doing the right thing… eventually. Even if it costs an extra 200 gems per item to change it from soulbound to account bound, it will be worth it.
Why in the world would you expect Anet to not only change the system from soulbound to accountbound, but also make it cheaper? Where is the logic in that?
Who said anything about making the infinite tools cheaper?
Cheaper or making them the same price at 800g – it’s a bad business decision.
The only logical move would be to increase the price. I’m actually surprised they only raised it a modest 200 gems.
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Thanks a lot. I am still not sure I will buy them as they are over $10 (I might buy one), but I will definitely consider them now. I have 9 character slots and 8 level 20 characters and over. So making them account bound is fantastic! I do appreciate the weapon skins, also! They look nice ’n shiny!
Yep that work was totally worth a 25% price increase across the board.
Granted if I were in their shoes, I’d do the same thing since it’s quick, easy, more profitable, and I’d get customers praising me let alone defending me. It’s a no brainer.
Maybe this is a dumb question, but now that these are account bound, do they automatically appear as equipped on each of your toons, or do you still need to transfer the tools via your bank to each toon when you want to use it?
The reason I ask is that I gather almost daily on several toons, so I would go ahead and buy these tools for the sake of convenience, not as an investment. But convenience goes out the window if I have to waypoint to a bank before and after starting each gathering run so that I can get/put back my tools.
Can anyone answer this for me?
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Yep that work was totally worth a 25% price increase across the board.
Granted if I were in their shoes, I’d do the same thing since it’s quick, easy, more profitable, and I’d get customers praising me let alone defending me. It’s a no brainer.
From the sounds of other comments, it’s free to upgrade tools you’ve already purchased… essentially grandfathering them in. Future tools will have a soulbound and an account bound version, with the account bound version being 200 gems more.
This is the impression I’m getting from the notes and what others seem to be saying. I’ll know in a few hours when I finally get home and can log on.
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
More fun account-bound things, less RNG. Definitely a win.
I’m so confused. What does RNG has anything to do with the gathering tools? They were never RNG to begin with.
It’s referring to what Lanfear said about ANet listening to the players’ requesting the dagger and staff from the last LS to be purchasable directly instead of through the BLC.
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Yep that work was totally worth a 25% price increase across the board.
Granted if I were in their shoes, I’d do the same thing since it’s quick, easy, more profitable, and I’d get customers praising me let alone defending me. It’s a no brainer.
From the sounds of other comments, it’s free to upgrade tools you’ve already purchased… essentially grandfathering them in. Future tools will have a soulbound and an account bound version, with the account bound version being 200 gems more.
This is the impression I’m getting from the notes and what others seem to be saying. I’ll know in a few hours when I finally get home and can log on.
I upgraded mine just now. It is indeed free to upgrade ones you already own. You trade them in at the Black Lion weapon vendor.
I would assume that future tools will only be account-bound, since what’s to stop me from buying the cheaper tool and then trading it in? If they pull that functionality from the vendor, they’ll have a bunch of people who don’t log in during the time it’s available and then can’t trade.
Yep that work was totally worth a 25% price increase across the board.
Granted if I were in their shoes, I’d do the same thing since it’s quick, easy, more profitable, and I’d get customers praising me let alone defending me. It’s a no brainer.
From the sounds of other comments, it’s free to upgrade tools you’ve already purchased… essentially grandfathering them in. Future tools will have a soulbound and an account bound version, with the account bound version being 200 gems more.
This is the impression I’m getting from the notes and what others seem to be saying. I’ll know in a few hours when I finally get home and can log on.
I upgraded mine just now. It is indeed free to upgrade ones you already own. You trade them in at the Black Lion weapon vendor.
I would assume that future tools will only be account-bound, since what’s to stop me from buying the cheaper tool and then trading it in? If they pull that functionality from the vendor, they’ll have a bunch of people who don’t log in during the time it’s available and then can’t trade.
So can you confirm if you have to transfer through bank between chars? Thanks!
Yep milking it…….1000 gems now is definitely not worth it, since we can buy full sets of tools for next several years for all toons for less. There’s paying for convenience and there’s being gouged for convenience. This is on par with the pet rock.
But this isn’t convenient… to use on another character I must go the the bank and put them in and then go to the bank to get them out…
If however they did it like the Zenith skins then I would buy a cool set of them. I’ve been waiting for something worth buying from the gem store but still haven’t seen anything worth it…
I am happy about this change, but I am still not buying them. But I would make them so little money if they implement the change that I want, that I will just keep using the tools available in game . I would like the tools to go to all my characters, existing and new, via the mail after purchasing. Like an account upgrade with the hero’s band. It is so not worth the hassle for me with the amount of characters that I have, as I will be at a node without the tool at some point.
I would consider spending 1000 gems only if it was for a full set (all 3) of permanent tools that had no animations. Until then, it seems like an utter waste of gems.
Awesome! Now if we could get some permanent tools without all the affects, I’d be set.
My thoughts exactly. I really want a set of tools but I like things to look normal sometimes and that’s the case here. I hope they add a plain set for 800 gems.
Yep that work was totally worth a 25% price increase across the board.
Granted if I were in their shoes, I’d do the same thing since it’s quick, easy, more profitable, and I’d get customers praising me let alone defending me. It’s a no brainer.
From the sounds of other comments, it’s free to upgrade tools you’ve already purchased… essentially grandfathering them in. Future tools will have a soulbound and an account bound version, with the account bound version being 200 gems more.
This is the impression I’m getting from the notes and what others seem to be saying. I’ll know in a few hours when I finally get home and can log on.
I upgraded mine just now. It is indeed free to upgrade ones you already own. You trade them in at the Black Lion weapon vendor.
I would assume that future tools will only be account-bound, since what’s to stop me from buying the cheaper tool and then trading it in? If they pull that functionality from the vendor, they’ll have a bunch of people who don’t log in during the time it’s available and then can’t trade.
They can easily leave the functionality for the old tools, but not include the swap out feature for any future tools. Thus giving the player base the options of soul or account bound as they choose for future tools. There are even some that see no need to swap out the old soulbound to the new account bound even. I see nothing wrong with that, since it simply ‘grandfathered in’ the old tools to the account bound ability. This is not an unheard of tactic.
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
I will admit I feel a kitteneated, having bought some of the tools more than once so I could equip a couple characters, but!
That being said, it’s about kittening time that Arenanet started doing some changes like this! I am happy for the folks who are going to be able to take advantage of it. The players of GW2 deserve this sort of perk. Account bound stuff is cheap and gimmicky (looking at you, dyes).
Not going to herald this as a change of heart on Anets part. I suspect they did this because sales tapered off and now they need MOAR MONEY™
I’m not going to spring back and log into GW2 just yet, but I’ll certainly be paying attention again.
Gaile has suggested that if you have multiples of the same tool and write to support they may be willing to refund the extras that you’ve purchased.
For myself, I’ll keep the extras for the sake of convenience and not having to hand tools off, but for some this might be a very nice gesture from A-Net.
