Guild Wars 2

I feel I need to make this post as it’s a cause for a bit of concern within Desolation, and probably elsewhere.

As you may have known, the recent content update brought some changes to the Champ loot – making them more rewarding to kill, and anything higher than Champs etc. This means that PvE players have started rotating various Champs in some of the map, most notably Frostgorge and Cursed Shore.

Ultimately, this means that with the loot being better, PvE players are finding optimal, more rewarding means of getting loot – even if that means delaying or even as far as failing an event (Anchorage – CS) just to spawn a lot of Champion mobs to get more loot. Personally I’m fine with that, as it’s more rewarding – why not right?

What I’m not fine with is the vile, most poisonous attitude that follows when players actually go out and complete the events instead of failing it, or killing Champ mobs before a big zerg gets there. These ‘farmers’ are calling them names in open chat such as ‘d***’ or ‘fa**ot’, or general abuse towards them, their families etc etc. This is by far the most atrocious display of behaviour I’ve seen in GW2 and on Desolation by far in the one year I’ve been playing this game, and I’m not having it.

It is completely okay, in my mind, to play PvE content as you please (so long it’s within the game rules), as it’s open for all with no real common goal but what you make it. I’m neither against players intentionally failing events for better loot. But bollocking players for ACTUALLY completing an event and playing events THE WAY IT’S MEANT TO BE PLAYED – and not failing it is outright unacceptable, especially to the level Map Chat has been displaying in the last few days/week or so.

These players, when they don’t get what they want.. then proceed to guest on other servers just to fail events. It also seems that players also may guest to us, but I’m not sure whether that’s true or not.

Anyway, I thought I’d post this just to let you know how I feel about this matter. I know it’s easy to not pay attention to Map Chat and not get caught up in it, but I can’t ignore it when it’s this bad – I’m sorry. I do my best to defend players on the Map that want to play the content the way they feel like, but I ultimately feel like I get caught up in these moments, I get so p***ed off that I cannot take it anymore.

That’s unfortunately the way that games in general work, there will always be a small percentage of players who want to get the most with the shortest amount of time, and what you’re seeing now is these elitist ‘zerker’ farmers who have abandoned CoF p1 and took up Champ Farming, they’ll rage in map chat and even harass people via whispers and if your opinion differentiates from theirs they’ll accuse you of ‘QQing’ and call you a ‘n00b’.
I play on Desolation as well and want to tell you these toxic players are a minority and not every guy doing the champ farms out there is an ahole.

And it appears ANET condones this behavior, I have never participated in these zerg trains for that reason.

i wont join zerg trains for this reason, its not to bad on fegussons crossing at the moment…unless its in queensdale and than its horrible sometimes.

@ OP If people are being verbally abusive, then report them. That’s not cool and isn’t tolerated by A-net. Report them.

alexjolly.1463:

That’s unfortunately the way that games in general work, there will always be a small percentage of players who want to get the most with the shortest amount of time, and what you’re seeing now is these elitist ‘zerker’ farmers who have abandoned CoF p1 and took up Champ Farming, they’ll rage in map chat and even harass people via whispers and if your opinion differentiates from theirs they’ll accuse you of ‘QQing’ and call you a ‘n00b’.
I play on Desolation as well and want to tell you these toxic players are a minority and not every guy doing the champ farms out there is an ahole.

They didn’t wait for you at a champ spawn or they didn’t let you tag an ember champ, and you’re complaining, then that’s selfish of you. Why should 50 people wait for just you?

If you’re getting kicked because the group isn’t working for ember farm, then you might well be the one holding back 4 other people. Just don’t be so selfish and realize that there are far more other players are trying to do than just you and don’t take it personally.

Why are you including farmers in Frostgorge Sound in this stereotype? The only event you fail there is the quaggan event, which spawns the champion quaggan. However, if someone does complete the event, the quaggan doesnt spawn, but all it really does is remove 1 champion out of the rotation.

That event and Inquest event in Malchor’s Leap where if you fail you get a champion to spawn are poorly designed by Anet. There is absolutely no reason to complete the first event, because 1)you will get credit for a event (the second event), 2)you get champion loot, and 3)the outcome has the same impact on the “living world” that it would have if you had completed the event.

I for one enjoy seeing the new life brought back to Frostgorge besides the times when Claw of Jormag is up. Frostgorge is my favorite map, so having something to do there is awesome.

I know I deviated from the main topic a lot, but the point Im trying to make is that you should not bash the people in Frostgorge for just running around killing champions.

Aberrant.6749:

@ OP If people are being verbally abusive, then report them. That’s not cool and isn’t tolerated by A-net. Report them.

ArenaNet won’t do anything about verbal abuse. It’s there on the “report” item as a feel good feature. I recently had a friend deal with an all out threat from another player, and all Arenanet would do via support is make excuses as to why the report wasn’t filed correctly.

Aberrant.6749:

@ OP If people are being verbally abusive, then report them. That’s not cool and isn’t tolerated by A-net. Report them.

alexjolly.1463:

That’s unfortunately the way that games in general work, there will always be a small percentage of players who want to get the most with the shortest amount of time, and what you’re seeing now is these elitist ‘zerker’ farmers who have abandoned CoF p1 and took up Champ Farming, they’ll rage in map chat and even harass people via whispers and if your opinion differentiates from theirs they’ll accuse you of ‘QQing’ and call you a ‘n00b’.
I play on Desolation as well and want to tell you these toxic players are a minority and not every guy doing the champ farms out there is an ahole.

They didn’t wait for you at a champ spawn or they didn’t let you tag an ember champ, and you’re complaining, then that’s selfish of you. Why should 50 people wait for just you?

If you’re getting kicked because the group isn’t working for ember farm, then you might well be the one holding back 4 other people. Just don’t be so selfish and realize that there are far more other players are trying to do than just you and don’t take it personally.

What? I’m not talking about this personally. I’m talking about the lynch mobs that will attack a person or group of people because maybe they killed a champion without knowing it’s part of your precious farm route.
Please don’t make assumptions about me or put words in my mouth.

alexjolly.1463:

Aberrant.6749:

@ OP If people are being verbally abusive, then report them. That’s not cool and isn’t tolerated by A-net. Report them.

alexjolly.1463:

That’s unfortunately the way that games in general work, there will always be a small percentage of players who want to get the most with the shortest amount of time, and what you’re seeing now is these elitist ‘zerker’ farmers who have abandoned CoF p1 and took up Champ Farming, they’ll rage in map chat and even harass people via whispers and if your opinion differentiates from theirs they’ll accuse you of ‘QQing’ and call you a ‘n00b’.
I play on Desolation as well and want to tell you these toxic players are a minority and not every guy doing the champ farms out there is an ahole.

They didn’t wait for you at a champ spawn or they didn’t let you tag an ember champ, and you’re complaining, then that’s selfish of you. Why should 50 people wait for just you?

If you’re getting kicked because the group isn’t working for ember farm, then you might well be the one holding back 4 other people. Just don’t be so selfish and realize that there are far more other players are trying to do than just you and don’t take it personally.

What? I’m not talking about this personally. I’m talking about the lynch mobs that will attack a person or group of people because maybe they killed a champion without knowing it’s part of your precious farm route.
Please don’t make assumptions about me or put words in my mouth.

But, that’s what they are really good at.

alexjolly.1463:

Aberrant.6749:

@ OP If people are being verbally abusive, then report them. That’s not cool and isn’t tolerated by A-net. Report them.

alexjolly.1463:

That’s unfortunately the way that games in general work, there will always be a small percentage of players who want to get the most with the shortest amount of time, and what you’re seeing now is these elitist ‘zerker’ farmers who have abandoned CoF p1 and took up Champ Farming, they’ll rage in map chat and even harass people via whispers and if your opinion differentiates from theirs they’ll accuse you of ‘QQing’ and call you a ‘n00b’.
I play on Desolation as well and want to tell you these toxic players are a minority and not every guy doing the champ farms out there is an ahole.

They didn’t wait for you at a champ spawn or they didn’t let you tag an ember champ, and you’re complaining, then that’s selfish of you. Why should 50 people wait for just you?

If you’re getting kicked because the group isn’t working for ember farm, then you might well be the one holding back 4 other people. Just don’t be so selfish and realize that there are far more other players are trying to do than just you and don’t take it personally.

What? I’m not talking about this personally. I’m talking about the lynch mobs that will attack a person or group of people because maybe they killed a champion without knowing it’s part of your precious farm route.
Please don’t make assumptions about me or put words in my mouth.

I was commenting on the subject that you brought up, the you wasn’t directed at you personally (hence the italics), but at players that complain about those things, the reasons behind why they happen, and what the reality of the situation is. Sorry if that was unclear.

These are known as tears, you should enjoy them, not be offended by them.

In another game I play, i wont say the name it might b against the EULA. But in that game, chat logs full of these kinds of tears are posted on the forums for everyone to see and ridicule.

Neural.1824:

ArenaNet won’t do anything about verbal abuse. It’s there on the “report” item as a feel good feature. I recently had a friend deal with an all out threat from another player, and all Arenanet would do via support is make excuses as to why the report wasn’t filed correctly.

So how come I see people crying and throwing temper tantrums on the forums because they got temp banned for abusing people? Whining that you shouldn’t get banned for swearing because “people should turn their chat filter on”?

I imagine that Anet is backlogged at the moment with verbal abuse tickets. This is common in every farm. Orr happens to be the worse. I had a fellow guildmate and commander get verbally abused for over 2 hours in frostgorge because he didn’t want to do wurm and his tag was on. He was skipping one champion.

Simple solution might simply be to turn off the tag and not have to deal with it. However why give into the bullies? It litterly has to be their way or the highway.

Orr is a bit different as you actually get your life and family members lives threatened or wishes of death, dismemberment, accident etc. I do report such people no matter who it is aimed at and I suggest everyone do the same.

Its a game and it might seem very silly to take such comments with any serious thought (and I don’t) but it doesn’t make it acceptable.

KOPPER.1458:

I imagine that Anet is backlogged at the moment with verbal abuse tickets. This is common in every farm. Orr happens to be the worse. I had a fellow guildmate and commander get verbally abused for over 2 hours in frostgorge because he didn’t want to do wurm and his tag was on. He was skipping one champion.

Simple solution might simply be to turn off the tag and not have to deal with it. However why give into the bullies? It litterly has to be their way or the highway.

Orr is a bit different as you actually get your life and family members lives threatened or wishes of death, dismemberment, accident etc. I do report such people no matter who it is aimed at and I suggest everyone do the same.

Its a game and it might seem very silly to take such comments with any serious thought (and I don’t) but it doesn’t make it acceptable.

Woooow. He skipped worm? What a kitten. I skip troll and have been kittened at by a commander about it because people followed me to the fish and not him. I guess I’m a total kitten too.

Seriously… 2 hours of verbal abuse over the worm… what the kitten…

My spawn point was in the Penitent path Cursed Shore before going back into WvW. And the attack was on the camp.When I used to do this we had 10-20 players.Well I looked and there was 40.

I feel sorry for anyone who actually wants to enjoy a fight,rather than just stand amongst invisible players attacking invisible Risen.And for it being over before you even knew it begun.

We actually had half the number of players on Eternal BG WvW when I joined than what I saw zerging in Cursed Shore.

On desolation were I guest and quest, the frostgorge train is without such things. I have not seen any map chat by people being rude. On the contrary, they see some things happen and the commander friendly asks if they would either wait or(the quaggan) not do the event.
If the want to do the event the train just moves onto drakkar with no words.
I would just ignore people who shout out on map chat or say something about it. No need to be rude if you get one box less with lotst of people running around with 100+ boxes imo.

Diviner.7405:

Why are you including farmers in Frostgorge Sound in this stereotype?

Because the Chat abuse is still present there at times. Though not as often as CS, it still isn’t absent completely. I’ve only been in those two areas also so I don’t know where else other people farm – hence why CS/FG in the discussion.

Mainly during the Aetherblade Event next to the Drake Champ – where people ask you not to kill the Captain, but players do anyway. Again, small presence as opposed to CS, but abuse can still be seen – and I’ve been playing in FG for quite a while with my Guild over there yesterday.

And I’m not bashing anyone aside from those abusing players in Map Chat, which I kid you not FG also has.

Brit.9726:

Mainly during the Aetherblade Event next to the Drake Champ – where people ask you not to kill the Captain, but players do anyway. Again, small presence as opposed to CS, but abuse can still be seen – and I’ve been playing in FG for quite a while with my Guild over there yesterday.

Well that is just people being stupid imo. If you are farming champs, some more are a nice addition right? So if they explain not to kill the captian too fast it will spawn more, and they choose to ignore that I will say something about it. It’s just so dumb.

The unfortunate fact is that Anet can no longer ban people for chat abuse because it has become too prevalent. They created a hostile environment and they got hostile players in return. If they went and banned everyone that was being abusive in chat there wouldn’t be enough players left to support the game.

Just /block then all and hope you don’t reach the cap.

aspirine.6852:

Brit.9726:

Mainly during the Aetherblade Event next to the Drake Champ – where people ask you not to kill the Captain, but players do anyway. Again, small presence as opposed to CS, but abuse can still be seen – and I’ve been playing in FG for quite a while with my Guild over there yesterday.

Well that is just people being stupid imo. If you are farming champs, some more are a nice addition right? So if they explain not to kill the captian too fast it will spawn more, and they choose to ignore that I will say something about it. It’s just so dumb.

I also like more Champs, and like a lot of people am willing to delay or fail an event to get more loot. But like I said, I will not say anything (abusive) to those players that do kill the Captain – bar explaining to them WHY we don’t want to kill the mob so quick so they know next time, if they didn’t already. Let them play as they want though. It spawns multiple times, so why the child like behaviour from some people?

What’s your commander tag btw Brit? I have only seen pretty good commanders on Desolation where I do this. Most of the time people listen, only once I have seen people ignoring everyone and keep on attacking.

aspirine.6852:

What’s your commander tag btw Brit? I have only seen pretty good commanders on Desolation where I do this. Most of the time people listen, only once I have seen people ignoring everyone and keep on attacking.

I don’t have a Commander Tag (but character’s Neria Cindel), and yeah most of the Comms on there are friendly and helpfully. But again, some regular players aren’t. Again, I know FG has less of the abuse and more people willing to do what the zerg is doing, but abuse is still there. I’ve actually not been on where Comms where the ones giving the abuse, so I can’t really say much about that.

I don’t deny this is happening on the larger servers. Personally I can’t confirm the “Champ farm”. I am now on Crystal Desert after leaving Blackgate and I went to Cursed Shore Meddlers WP to check the griefing out for myself. Risen crickets chirped and I only found 2 other live souls around.
The Ember farm there doesn’t exist. Now there may be another location on CD that Champ farming/intentional failure exists but I’m not seeing it. I think this is problematic to certain servers and not others.
There are many solutions I’ve seen proposed in other threads that don’t involve the giant nerf hammer and still allow for events to be finished as intended. I hope Anet finds a solution such as this. I for one would have to guest to experience this huge increase in gold income and honestly I would rather not. I get by on what I make and though zerging can be fun, too many zerglings and only those with the highest DPS get kill credit.

I hear ya. The rage and bashing is getting ridiculous. I never attempted to finish that event because I don’t wanna risk getting flamed or reported by those farming fanatics. I just find it amusing, this whole “you ruined my day!!” because somebody dared to complete the event. It’s the first time I’ve seen such behavior in PvE and it makes me wanna not play it.

Next time the zerg acts up try this. Silently form your own zerg, hang back a few mins on drake and fire up the train. Then watch map chat light up as they go ape kitten wondering where their precious spawns are.

I certainly don’t mind the zerg, it’s basically players working together and that’s cool. But what I can’t stand are loud mouth kittens. However if there’s one thing they have taught me … its that tears are delicious.

alexjolly.1463:

That’s unfortunately the way that games in general work, there will always be a small percentage of players who want to get the most with the shortest amount of time, and what you’re seeing now is these elitist ‘zerker’ farmers who have abandoned CoF p1 and took up Champ Farming, they’ll rage in map chat and even harass people via whispers and if your opinion differentiates from theirs they’ll accuse you of ‘QQing’ and call you a ‘n00b’.
I play on Desolation as well and want to tell you these toxic players are a minority and not every guy doing the champ farms out there is an ahole.

These types of people are probably irreversibly conditioned by the variable ratio reward schedules that the MMO genre has created over the past decade. Their brains are almost hardwired to expect reward. Similar to a heroin addict.

Brit.9726:

Stuff

These types of people, mostly neckbeards and children are hardly new to MMO’s, let alone guildwars.

Personally however seeing people getting so angry and upset over something so trivial as completing an event as intended is hilarious. The flood of angry tears in map chat would serve as an indication of a ‘job well done’ and perhaps encourage me to hang around to complete some more stuff, they are farming.

Although I agree that mindless verbal abuse is annoying it is also important to remember that they are getting angry because you just ruined their day. I can only imagine the sorry destitute lives these individuals must lead in order to take a game so seriously.

Either way, let them get mad and carry on going about your business.

Do it for the lulz.

CaptainVenus.5179:

Brit.9726:

Stuff

These types of people, mostly neckbeards and children are hardly new to MMO’s, let alone guildwars.

Personally however seeing people getting so angry and upset over something so trivial as completing an event as intended is hilarious. The flood of angry tears in map chat would serve as an indication of a ‘job well done’ and perhaps encourage me to hang around to complete some more stuff, they are farming.

Although I agree that mindless verbal abuse is annoying it is also important to remember that they are getting angry because you just ruined their day. I can only imagine the sorry destitute lives these individuals must lead in order to take a game so seriously.

Either way, let them get mad and carry on going about your business.

Do it for the lulz.

It is quite amusing for me to ruin their day though. Watching them rage is hilarious. I get a kick out of it. Their intelligence level is quite low so you can confuse them with some intellectual banter.

Diviner.7405:

Why are you including farmers in Frostgorge Sound in this stereotype? The only event you fail there is the quaggan event, which spawns the champion quaggan. However, if someone does complete the event, the quaggan doesnt spawn, but all it really does is remove 1 champion out of the rotation.

Actually, that event triggers automatically on a timer and if no one happens to be around to save the quaggan, the champ quaggan spawns. Its not a deliberate failure like the ember farm event in CS. There is a difference.

That said, I’ve seen remarks like “get with the zerk and don’t kitten (starts with ‘f’)-up the rotation”. When I see that kind of thing, I kill the Svanir trying to abduct the quaggan and solo the Aetherblade event for 2 or 3 cycles.

justkoh.4073:

Diviner.7405:

Why are you including farmers in Frostgorge Sound in this stereotype? The only event you fail there is the quaggan event, which spawns the champion quaggan. However, if someone does complete the event, the quaggan doesnt spawn, but all it really does is remove 1 champion out of the rotation.

Actually, that event triggers automatically on a timer and if no one happens to be around to save the quaggan, the champ quaggan spawns. Its not a deliberate failure like the ember farm event in CS. There is a difference.

That said, I’ve seen remarks like “get with the zerk and don’t kitten (starts with ‘f’)-up the rotation”. When I see that kind of thing, I kill the Svanir trying to abduct the quaggan and solo the Aetherblade event for 2 or 3 cycles.

I dont get it. Why would you ruin the run for the people that are not being rude?
I dont like rude people, I’m sure noone does, but in that zerg are also a nice group of people :/

Say whatever you want, but Tyria was alot better place while that kind of people was kept in cof p1. Alas, they unleashed monsters into open world and there is no going back now. In a week more of those people will be in world, when gauntlet farming is closed, oh joy!

CaptainVenus.5179:

Brit.9726:

Stuff

These types of people, mostly neckbeards and children are hardly new to MMO’s, let alone guildwars.

Personally however seeing people getting so angry and upset over something so trivial as completing an event as intended is hilarious. The flood of angry tears in map chat would serve as an indication of a ‘job well done’ and perhaps encourage me to hang around to complete some more stuff, they are farming.

Although I agree that mindless verbal abuse is annoying it is also important to remember that they are getting angry because you just ruined their day. I can only imagine the sorry destitute lives these individuals must lead in order to take a game so seriously.

Either way, let them get mad and carry on going about your business.

Do it for the lulz.

Intentional harassment of other players is against the TOS and is a bannable offense. As much as they get angry and yell, you are much more likely to get a 3 day vacation then they are.

kRiza krimos.1637:

Say whatever you want, but Tyria was alot better place while that kind of people was kept in cof p1. Alas, they unleashed monsters into open world and there is no going back now. In a week more of those people will be in world, when gauntlet farming is closed, oh joy!

At least in CoF P1 or whatever dungeon, it took some expertise to get rewarded. Now, a bunch of random people running around tagging everything and being rude to everyone else is rolling in $$$.

IMO, bad development for the game.

Wow, I haven’t seen any of this. Y’all must just play in rude servers.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

CaptainVenus.5179:

Brit.9726:

Stuff

These types of people, mostly neckbeards and children are hardly new to MMO’s, let alone guildwars.

Personally however seeing people getting so angry and upset over something so trivial as completing an event as intended is hilarious. The flood of angry tears in map chat would serve as an indication of a ‘job well done’ and perhaps encourage me to hang around to complete some more stuff, they are farming.

Although I agree that mindless verbal abuse is annoying it is also important to remember that they are getting angry because you just ruined their day. I can only imagine the sorry destitute lives these individuals must lead in order to take a game so seriously.

Either way, let them get mad and carry on going about your business.

Do it for the lulz.

Intentional harassment of other players is against the TOS and is a bannable offense. As much as they get angry and yell, you are much more likely to get a 3 day vacation then they are.

A vacation tempban for what exactly, saying nothing and playing the game as intended? Well done sherlock, I think you’re on to something.

Either way, I find it sad you would view a ban as a ‘vacation’, that implies you treat the game as some sort of career.

In more recent news, playing the game as intended will land you a ban, apparently.

CaptainVenus.5179:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

CaptainVenus.5179:

Brit.9726:

Stuff

These types of people, mostly neckbeards and children are hardly new to MMO’s, let alone guildwars.

Personally however seeing people getting so angry and upset over something so trivial as completing an event as intended is hilarious. The flood of angry tears in map chat would serve as an indication of a ‘job well done’ and perhaps encourage me to hang around to complete some more stuff, they are farming.

Although I agree that mindless verbal abuse is annoying it is also important to remember that they are getting angry because you just ruined their day. I can only imagine the sorry destitute lives these individuals must lead in order to take a game so seriously.

Either way, let them get mad and carry on going about your business.

Do it for the lulz.

Intentional harassment of other players is against the TOS and is a bannable offense. As much as they get angry and yell, you are much more likely to get a 3 day vacation then they are.

A vacation tempban for what exactly, saying nothing and playing the game as intended? Well done sherlock, I think you’re on to something.

Either way, I find it sad you would view a ban as a ‘vacation’, that implies you treat the game as some sort of career.

In more recent news, playing the game as intended will land you a ban, apparently.

your straw man argument is weak at best. There is nothing wrong with completing an event, but no one here is talking about completing an event. The words used are

“troll the farmers and feast on their tears” or “watch them suffer as you screw over their farming”

If you look on gw2stuff.com many of these events previously went uncompleted for 100+ hours at a time. All of a sudden you are magically interested in completing these events for the sake of them? No, you are attempting to harass other players because you don’t agree with their way of playing the game, and that is what is a bannable offense, harassment.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

CaptainVenus.5179:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

CaptainVenus.5179:

Brit.9726:

Stuff

These types of people, mostly neckbeards and children are hardly new to MMO’s, let alone guildwars.

Personally however seeing people getting so angry and upset over something so trivial as completing an event as intended is hilarious. The flood of angry tears in map chat would serve as an indication of a ‘job well done’ and perhaps encourage me to hang around to complete some more stuff, they are farming.

Although I agree that mindless verbal abuse is annoying it is also important to remember that they are getting angry because you just ruined their day. I can only imagine the sorry destitute lives these individuals must lead in order to take a game so seriously.

Either way, let them get mad and carry on going about your business.

Do it for the lulz.

Intentional harassment of other players is against the TOS and is a bannable offense. As much as they get angry and yell, you are much more likely to get a 3 day vacation then they are.

A vacation tempban for what exactly, saying nothing and playing the game as intended? Well done sherlock, I think you’re on to something.

Either way, I find it sad you would view a ban as a ‘vacation’, that implies you treat the game as some sort of career.

In more recent news, playing the game as intended will land you a ban, apparently.

your straw man argument is weak at best. There is nothing wrong with completing an event, but no one here is talking about completing an event. The words used are

“troll the farmers and feast on their tears” or “watch them suffer as you screw over their farming”

If you look on gw2stuff.com many of these events previously went uncompleted for 100+ hours at a time. All of a sudden you are magically interested in completing these events for the sake of them? No, you are attempting to harass other players because you don’t agree with their way of playing the game, and that is what is a bannable offense, harassment.

>implying me

No, and also, no.

I distinctly remember this thread being about verbal abuse/harassment, and you guys seem to be turning it into a place to vent your anger over having your farming chains broken by legitimate players at some point or another.

Personally, I don’t hang out in orr but if I did, I was merely illustrating to you how I personally would handle your bannable offense of verbal abuse and harassment, by continuing to play the game legitimately, as intended by the content designers.

What about this are you just not getting?

Also let it be known that people are now seeking out these players and naming them in chat. The farmers are now reporting them for absolutely nothing but killing a champ mob. This is getting out of hand.

I gotta agree, i love the loot and everything but even tho i follow the zerg most of the time one day i was at the fish in frostgorge and said fish up, lets go kill it in chat. Well they reply wait for the zerg, i was like well is not your champ, i have the right to play too as other people have and kill the champ whenever i want to. The result were insults, ignores, reports and calling me troll just because i wanted to kill a champ lol

I mean the event is good, the loot is good but sadly i think this is doing more to divide the community than is going it to unite it. People just have become mindless and greedy all of a sudden, kinda good subject and test for a social experiment at some university or something lol, people change with money and power, they’ll do anything to get it. The end justify the means…

Some guy told us not to kill the Oakheart the other night because the zerg was going to get it next. We killed it anyhow…no complaints but I would have laughed at him and blocked him if he started complaining. Since it’s the internet, it’s pretty easy to ignore that kind of thing:)

I stand with the OP on this. I’m no saint… anytime there’s a new ‘abuseable path’ through a tedious dungeon …be it more of a Jump Puzzle motif, or just straight Glitching, I’ll follow along just to see why it’s being done. I’ll guest other servers on multiple characters whenever the Herb nodes are too sparse in areas that should have had a lot more. I’ll put down ranger players constantly for their poor ranged damage and awful potential in content that demands optimized classes (yet my other main IS a ranger). … so I can say with full confidence that I can abridge the necessary cognitive dissonance to approach this issue without whiteknighting the Naivete in Anet’s dynamic event design like some goody two shoes.

But if you ever let yourself cuss someone out over chat b/c of something that happened in a video game (unless they were hacking), then you’ve already LOST THE GAME

There’s not a lot of other ways to put this nicely. You mad b/c you Bad … <—- if you’re any of the farmers who do this. Better players can make the same amounts of gold doing any other number of activities right now. And better economists can make several times what those guys make. So there is never any reason to react like that or worse threaten and “counter sabotage” someone b/c they’re simply following Anet’s event Instructions in a way that is merely incovenient for the farmers who have already set aside Hours upon Hours in which to average out their gains…

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And once you GET that new Shiny…. who are you going to show it off to??
The other farmers who have the same exact shiny junk?
The same ones who ran out of gear to chase and started playing some other game?
No you’re counting on impressing the more Casual players.
But what happens when you poison the well?? …and everyone else,
…starts associating those new Shinies with the abuse we’re seeing now?

@ArenaNet: Are you even acknowledging this? It’s hard to tell when you don’t reply as often whether you know about this (probably do), or if you plan on doing something about it. Are you planning to nerf something, or buff rewards to make completing events more profitable/rewarding? Is there anything you can do to remove this behaviour from chat?

On one hand I hope they nerf it, because it’s just completely ridiculous how much money this is generating.

On the other hand, I hope they don’t, because white knighting the event on two servers yesterday was the most fun I’ve had in game in a while.

Oh the tears.. They were so delicious…

Report them. Every time you see one being rude. When this game first got going, they got rid of a ton of people for being rude to others and called them out on it in Reddit when they tried to defend themselves as innocent. Anet don’t like rudeness.

The LoL generation has made its way to guild wars and the result is the death of the community.

CaptainVenus.5179:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

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Brit.9726:

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These types of people, mostly neckbeards and children are hardly new to MMO’s, let alone guildwars.

Personally however seeing people getting so angry and upset over something so trivial as completing an event as intended is hilarious. The flood of angry tears in map chat would serve as an indication of a ‘job well done’ and perhaps encourage me to hang around to complete some more stuff, they are farming.

Although I agree that mindless verbal abuse is annoying it is also important to remember that they are getting angry because you just ruined their day. I can only imagine the sorry destitute lives these individuals must lead in order to take a game so seriously.

Either way, let them get mad and carry on going about your business.

Do it for the lulz.

Intentional harassment of other players is against the TOS and is a bannable offense. As much as they get angry and yell, you are much more likely to get a 3 day vacation then they are.

A vacation tempban for what exactly, saying nothing and playing the game as intended? Well done sherlock, I think you’re on to something.

Either way, I find it sad you would view a ban as a ‘vacation’, that implies you treat the game as some sort of career.

In more recent news, playing the game as intended will land you a ban, apparently.

your straw man argument is weak at best. There is nothing wrong with completing an event, but no one here is talking about completing an event. The words used are

“troll the farmers and feast on their tears” or “watch them suffer as you screw over their farming”

If you look on gw2stuff.com many of these events previously went uncompleted for 100+ hours at a time. All of a sudden you are magically interested in completing these events for the sake of them? No, you are attempting to harass other players because you don’t agree with their way of playing the game, and that is what is a bannable offense, harassment.

>implying me

No, and also, no.

I distinctly remember this thread being about verbal abuse/harassment, and you guys seem to be turning it into a place to vent your anger over having your farming chains broken by legitimate players at some point or another.

Personally, I don’t hang out in orr but if I did, I was merely illustrating to you how I personally would handle your bannable offense of verbal abuse and harassment, by continuing to play the game legitimately, as intended by the content designers.

What about this are you just not getting?

Wow, just wow, they show you that the only ones that are trying to complete the event are trolls and griefers trying to kitten people off and harrass them and you call THEM the legitimate players? You’ve completely lost me.

Look man, if someone calls you out because you messed up then man up and try not to mess up the next time, don’t come crying to the forums like a baby, done.

Brit.9726:

Ultimately, this means that with the loot being better, PvE players are finding optimal, more rewarding means of getting loot – even if that means delaying or even as far as failing an event (Anchorage – CS) just to spawn a lot of Champion mobs to get more loot. Personally I’m fine with that, as it’s more rewarding – why not right?

What I’m not fine with is the vile, most poisonous attitude that follows when players actually go out and complete the events instead of failing it, or killing Champ mobs before a big zerg gets there. These ‘farmers’ are calling them names in open chat such as ‘d***’ or ‘fa**ot’, or general abuse towards them, their families etc etc. This is by far the most atrocious display of behaviour I’ve seen in GW2 and on Desolation by far in the one year I’ve been playing this game, and I’m not having it.

But some of us have been doing those temples for almost a year now, I don’t see how it’s ok at all when our game-play is taken from us by exploit farmers (regarding CS). I’ve run the champ gauntlet in frostgorge a little, I see no problems there, but in CS it is literally destroying the game for many regular CS players. It’s not even an optimal way to get the drops, just the lazy way.

But yes, the cussing I have seen, about worse than in any other game I’ve seen. Frostgorge I haven’t seen any of this, but certainly in CS. I think the players going to frostgorge realize that they are not hurting anyone there, they do it there rather than in CS where it does hurt the game for others. Those farmers doing the CS (embers) don’t care if they are screwing up the game for others, and thus are fine with cussing out the other players there. Make sense?

lazy + don’t care = _________

Shoot, and I used to think the worst thing in CS was when some players didn’t want to WP during grenth’s risen priest and just laid there for 5 minutes waiting for a revive or for someone else to kill the priest (despite they adding to a scale-up). Now CS is just pure filth, players peeing on the walls, beer cans everywhere heh

This is why I’m glad I made all the gold I’ll ever need from deadeye. I don’t have to deal with people defecating over people farming in groups from the safety of their moral high ground.

Diviner.7405:

Why are you including farmers in Frostgorge Sound in this stereotype? The only event you fail there is the quaggan event, which spawns the champion quaggan. However, if someone does complete the event, the quaggan doesnt spawn, but all it really does is remove 1 champion out of the rotation.

That event and Inquest event in Malchor’s Leap where if you fail you get a champion to spawn are poorly designed by Anet. There is absolutely no reason to complete the first event, because 1)you will get credit for a event (the second event), 2)you get champion loot, and 3)the outcome has the same impact on the “living world” that it would have if you had completed the event.

I for one enjoy seeing the new life brought back to Frostgorge besides the times when Claw of Jormag is up. Frostgorge is my favorite map, so having something to do there is awesome.

I know I deviated from the main topic a lot, but the point Im trying to make is that you should not bash the people in Frostgorge for just running around killing champions.

This, I got in a zerg of like 40ish people (or at least that’s how many i could see rendering) and we were running the zerg train. We had some funny chats over /say, met some cool people, got some loot, had a great time.

Brutal Arts.6307:

This is why I’m glad I made all the gold I’ll ever need from deadeye. I don’t have to deal with people defecating over people farming in groups from the safety of their moral high ground.

So you’ve got what, like two dozen legendary weaps? No need for boss drops any longer for those precursers? Gratz! What’s left to do? Oh, forums!