Guild Wars 2

deSade.9437:

After what he said, do you still hope in any kind of communication? It’s pretty clear they’re disgusted by their hardcore community and want you to leave or move to other game modes. Or is it just me?

No it isn’t just you, I am in complete agreement.

Tman.6349:

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(let’s face it the FotM Lvls were just numbers otherwise and hold no inherent prestiege)
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I think I’m going to play the “X is also just a number” card.

deSade.9437:

Romo.3709:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

After recent posts from Chris in the CDI I think I understand what Anet’s goal is. Get rid of any hardcore pve’ers. They like pvp though and wvw hardcores.

I will never ever post in another CDI. The recent comments have illustrated that the evolution of the game in Anet’s eyes does not include people who challenge themselves.

I would like to think they might miss the money I spend in the gem store (now that I will not anymore). My weekly 100$ (yep, I do spend that much because I love this game) will go toward something else. I am not happy that they have so blatantly tossed us aside.

It’s an interesting concept. A lot of WvW players along with almost all PvP players consider themselves hardcore. Recent updates over tha past few months were not only hinting, but Anet was plain out open about trying to drive players from PvE to WvW. Along with the whole PvP rewamp where they’re trying to merge PvE with PvP.
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I’m sincerely interested in hearing your thoughts and your feelings about writing so much, putting effort into the whole reasoning – very well done, with the knowledge that no dev will ever read, answer or even remotely care about what you said. I’m also referring to the effort you put into that pathetic cesspool of a CDI thread.
I totally feel like you, but to me it’s much more rewarding to make fun of them, even if it’s not “constructive” (duh) and use it as a distraction. Maybe it’s just because nothing matters to me nowadays…

I like fractals. Not for what they are, but for what they offer. Which is a quality time with a tight group of friends facing challenges against all odds. The problem for me isn’t that fractals are broken or that they’re not responding to issues and complains. The problem for me is that the group of friends that I’ve been playing fractals with every day is getting smaller and smaller. Not because of the fact that they’re getting bored of the game, but because of the fact that they’re not being heard by the devs.

Constantly putting in ninja “fixes” to different areas, nerfing the drop rate significantly, or even making dredge more annoying then ever. Those points are not helping at all. On top of the actual level reset, many of my friends along with me (because of lack of people to play with) have given up on fractals completely. Just recently me and some reamaining friends of mine got to level 50 again. It was fun, even though the grief and sour taste we felt with each advancement. Regardless I’m somewhat having fun again playing fractals almost every day now.

When the CDI for fractals came out, I’ve had a glimpse of hope that the annoying things from fractals like dredge will finally be fixed. The problem is (like it was stated earlier), people let out their frustration early on about dredge and need for rewards. Which led to inventing new issues. Every tiny little thing that certain people had problems with, was blown to massive proportions and became pages long discussions on how to solve a non-issue. Because, let’s face it. Rolling is a problem now? Since when?

Because of that itself I tend to speak my mind, because deep down I still somehow believe that Anet sincerly wants to make ammends for what happened, but are simply refusing to admit that what they did was wrong. Maybe it’s because their advisors are stating otherwise, maybe because they don’t want to hear a backlash from the community that spent hours upon hours mocking us in the threads we started. The reason behind it is stil unknown and we might never find out why. Only time will tell what’s their real reasoning behind it all is.

So untill then, I still have a tiny hope, that they will do what’s right. And I sincerely hope small things like rolling will not consume their development time.

Also I’m not sure if you actually wanted this answer, or being sarcastic, but here it is =P

Lilith Ajit.6173:

deSade.9437:

After what he said, do you still hope in any kind of communication? It’s pretty clear they’re disgusted by their hardcore community and want you to leave or move to other game modes. Or is it just me?

No it isn’t just you, I am in complete agreement.

No it isn’t just you, I am in complete agreement.

Nah, I’m usually a bit more obvious when sarcastic. At least I think. Also, it’s hardly when directly talking to one of the [reasonable human beings] forum elitists.
I was wondering if yours was just a way to vent frustration and share it with us, but it seems like you still hope they’ll have some kind of reaction to it. Which is… good, I guess. It’s good to have things you believe in. Because if you don’t have any…

deSade.9437:

Nah, I’m usually a bit more obvious when sarcastic. At least I think. Also, it’s hardly when directly talking to one of the [reasonable human beings] forum elitists.
I was wondering if yours was just a way to vent frustration and share it with us, but it seems like you still hope they’ll have some kind of reaction to it. Which is… good, I guess. It’s good to have things you believe in. Because if you don’t have any…

Haha. That hope is very small to say the least. And I guess it is a way to vent my frustration. But I try to make it as constructive as I possibly can, so even if they want to brush it off as a rant, there are points to give it some ground to stand on. When I’m frustrated, I write. And when I write while being frustrated, I tend to keep on going and going, since the ideas are just overlapping on top of another.

The thing is I am very frustrated with Anet for doing what the did. Even more so, since I had 3 characters fully leveled to PRL 50. Even so I still think Fractals are the most fun areas in the game. I just don’t want them to break it even more…

Romo.3709:

After recent posts from Chris in the CDI I think I understand what Anet’s goal is. Get rid of any hardcore pve’ers. They like pvp though and wvw hardcores. ……

ok some things i agree with some things i don’t

fixing the mild exploits imo is good. It may be cool while it lasted, but we cant really believe that working together and challenge is about things like jumping into geometry and blinking through fences. I think some levels do need a rework, but somethings also need to be fixed. I think the big issue is not that they fixed the exploits, its that they didnt fix the design issues at the same time. Net result longer more annoying instead of fairer overall

rolling is a problem. not the end of the world problem, but its an issue, that will get bigger as they add more fractals. It wasnt as bad before, because you were only picking one fractal, but with the new system the possible draws have funny things happening. Even if you think i’m wrong that doesnt mean my opinion is invalid or shouldnt be voiced. You got to respect other peoples ideas/concerns sometimes.

2nd i dont think anything in the cdi is against hardcore players, its against tunnel vision. not everything in fractals is about level 80 people, or speedclear people, but that also means not everything is about level 10 players or kill everything you see players.

Now as far as the bitterness, i get it, but it really serves no purpose. Im not saying give up trying to get a response, but dont let it infect every interaction you have with people/devs if you can. Keep trying to voice your opinion and reach people, but do not become sad and bitter if thats possible.

you can say some one is wrong without hating them, you can remember the bad things without reliving them/drowning in them everyday.

I think everyone would prefer fractals and dungeons to be left at the state they are now, so they don’t break other things and don’t add more “exciting” LS bullkitten to it.
Hope for a few fractals and new dungeons in an xpac, but don’t hope too much.

phys.7689:

Romo.3709:

After recent posts from Chris in the CDI I think I understand what Anet’s goal is. Get rid of any hardcore pve’ers. They like pvp though and wvw hardcores. ……

ok some things i agree with some things i don’t

fixing the mild exploits imo is good. It may be cool while it….

Agreed that fixing the exploits is always a good thing, but that time would be better spent on fixing the mechanics, so using said exploits wouldn’t be approved by such a vast majority. At the same time teleporting bodies off the button in dredge is just a big middle finger from anet to all non-tankers. That’s practically a fact. But again, I agree exploits should be fixed regardless.

Rolling is not game breaking. Rolling will not affect my game, because it’s all RNG based anyways, even with their so-called Tier system. Some of the people raised he issue that rolling is bad because you don’t get to play certain levels anymore. It’s not because of rolling, it’s because of the system they’ve put in place. Forcing people to stop rolling will not fix the problem. Balancing each and every level so rolling is pointless would. But then again, that’s my personal opinion. At the same time with so many major issues with fractals as they are, I was amazed that we spent so much time on rolling. Again, I don’t think you’re wrong, but I think the system they’ve put in place is making it into an issue.

Also I’m not bitter. No… I am bitter. Hell, I’m bitter as ****. But you won’t see that in my posts on CDI. I try to be as constructive as I possibly can. I just don’t want to see another fractals update, where the Dredge stays untouched/become harder and rewards have gone up by 10 silvers, but rolling was fixed to ensure you will never be able to pick the first level again. And Anet stating “That’s what you guys asked for. Since we only had so much time, we fixed stuff that you were the most passionate about”. I’m not trying to devalue other people’s opinions, but you have to agree that this CDI went for too long and without a clear goal in mind from devs as to what they want from us. So the topics started going places that shouldn’t really have a “public-enemy-number-one” status. It’s true that CDI isn’t against hardcore players, but at the same time with Fractured update it was pretty clear it was all about casual players rather than people that were the most devoted to this area of the game.

Moshari.8570:

Oh, and dont forget how shortly after fractured, they announced that PVP was losing Glory rewards and WvW was losing rankings and those people went completely nuts about losing “hard earned rewards or rankings” and several of us posted on their forums pointing out that “this is the slippery slope we were talking about with Fractal levels being taken”…only to have our posts deleted by moderators for being “off topic”.

sPvP is losing glory and ranks, not WvW.

In any case, I’ve seen a couple posts about how Anet treats PvP/WvW much better than the fractal/dungeon community. Not true. Anet treats dungeon/fractal runners, sPvPers, WvWers all equally badly (just look at their sub-forums). And communication is a serious issue with all three communities.

Anet has moved on but, in order to string us along, won’t explicitly tell us we’re broken up. They’re dating the LS community now and there’s no getting back together. Dungeon runners, sPvPers, and WvWers really should just move on as well. (Saying this as a dungeon and WvW player.)

Lord Kuru.3685:

Moshari.8570:

Oh, and dont forget how shortly after fractured, they announced that PVP was losing Glory rewards and WvW was losing rankings and those people went completely nuts about losing “hard earned rewards or rankings” and several of us posted on their forums pointing out that “this is the slippery slope we were talking about with Fractal levels being taken”…only to have our posts deleted by moderators for being “off topic”.

sPvP is losing glory and ranks, not WvW.

In any case, I’ve seen a couple posts about how Anet treats PvP/WvW much better than the fractal/dungeon community. Not true. Anet treats dungeon/fractal runners, sPvPers, WvWers all equally badly (just look at their sub-forums). And communication is a serious issue with all three communities.

Anet has moved on but, in order to string us along, won’t explicitly tell us we’re broken up. They’re dating the LS community now and there’s no getting back together. Dungeon runners, sPvPers, and WvWers really should just move on as well. (Saying this as a dungeon and WvW player.)

Look at the updates you guys been getting to the systems over all. PvP getting a revamp, and they are not loosing their ranks because of the communication being there prior. Tournaments, rewards, constantly adding new finishers. WvW having seasons, tournaments, hell new (not recycled) map, a whole new queue system, rewards, laurel vendor, wvw specific items, oh did I mention account wide pool of experience that’s a patch away from being implemented. Yeah, they sure are suffering there…

I don’t think we’re getting any answers you guys. We haven’t gotten one then, it doesn’t look like we’re getting one now. Unless it’s another “confusion in terminology” reason they threw out there hoping it sticks… sighs…

Just as expected.

Romo.3709:

I don’t think we’re getting any answers you guys. We haven’t gotten one then, it doesn’t look like we’re getting one now. Unless it’s another “confusion in terminology” reason they threw out there hoping it sticks… sighs…

hugs

Kitten hugs you. Is sorries.

They have completely stopped giving any meaningful responses to the CDI over a week ago. Only ones I’ve been seeing is Chris saying that’s he’s reading it. Not sure how that qualifies as communication. It’s more of a one way radio, which once in a while gives us a beep that it still listens on the other end.

He stopped listening once he made the comment that started this thread.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

He stopped listening once he made the comment that started this thread.

Hahaha. Even though he reads through them, I think maybe criticism is getting under their skin too much, perhaps? I would’ve just address the issues first, before starting any “evolution” CDI on the subject. That way, they would’ve gotten much better response.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

He stopped listening once he made the comment that started this thread.

You seem like a pretty reasonable person, so I ask: do you not think his hospital visit had anything to do with that?

videoboy.4162:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

He stopped listening once he made the comment that started this thread.

You seem like a pretty reasonable person, so I ask: do you not think his hospital visit had anything to do with that?

Look, you’re a reasonable person, look at what he has said since and tell me it’s all about his 1 day hospital visit.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

videoboy.4162:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

He stopped listening once he made the comment that started this thread.

You seem like a pretty reasonable person, so I ask: do you not think his hospital visit had anything to do with that?

Look, you’re a reasonable person, look at what he has said since and tell me it’s all about his 1 day hospital visit.

I’ve been reading it and I realize that he hasn’t responded much since then. I just think it might be erroneous to assume that whatever he had done, wasn’t large enough (recovery wise) to warrant him choosing to recuperate, rather than post. If you look, you’ll see that he hasn’t been posting in any other forum since then.

Also, I’m not saying that is the reason, just pondering if that could be the reason. =)

videoboy.4162:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

He stopped listening once he made the comment that started this thread.

You seem like a pretty reasonable person, so I ask: do you not think his hospital visit had anything to do with that?

I don’t think his hospital visit had anything to do with the comment he made that started this thread, no.

Guhracie.3419:

videoboy.4162:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

He stopped listening once he made the comment that started this thread.

You seem like a pretty reasonable person, so I ask: do you not think his hospital visit had anything to do with that?

I don’t think his hospital visit had anything to do with the comment he made that started this thread, no.

It’s probably a good thing that I didn’t even come close to implying that then.

Jaya said: “He stopped listening once he made the comment that started this thread.” You replied directly to that statement by saying, “You don’t think his hospital visit had anything to do with that?”

How did you not imply that, please?

Guhracie.3419:

Jaya said: “He stopped listening once he made the comment that started this thread.” You replied directly to that statement by saying, “You don’t think his hospital visit had anything to do with that?”

How did you not imply that, please?

Lilith commented on when he stopped posting in the CDI. I asked if his stopping might have something to do with his hospital visit, since they occurred so close together. You just jumped to the conclusion that would lead to the most conflict.>shrug<

videoboy.4162:

Guhracie.3419:

Jaya said: “He stopped listening once he made the comment that started this thread.” You replied directly to that statement by saying, “You don’t think his hospital visit had anything to do with that?”

How did you not imply that, please?

Lillith commented on when he stopped posting in the CDI. I asked if his stopping might have something to do with his hospital visit, since they occurred so close together. You just jumped to the conclusion that would lead to the most conflict.>shrug<

This thread could have been extremely inflammatory, and I have worked very hard to make sure it has not been. Your accusation that my intention was to stir up conflict is laughable, in light of that.

You may not have intended to imply that Chris’s statements were connected to his visit to the hospital, but you did imply exactly that.

Jaya didn’t say he quit posting she said he quit listening and I don’t believe that has anything to do with his medical issue, to address your clarification.

Lol, Guhracie I love that you call me Jaya. They might not know who you’re talking about.

Anyway, I don’t care what his reasoning is… He took the time to basically call out the hardcore fractal community on the day of his hospital visit and continue the fight with this community that had started with this thread. That implies to me that he has stopped listening to all of us, because of his comments to, hendo? Haviz? It was an h name.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Lol, Guhracie I love that you call me Jaya. They might not know who you’re talking about.

Anyway, I don’t care what his reasoning is… He took the time to basically call out the hardcore fractal community on the day of his hospital visit and continue the fight with this community that had started with this thread. That implies to me that he has stopped listening to all of us, because of his comments to, hendo? Haviz? It was an h name.

Oh, dang it. Sorry if referring to Lilith as Jaya was the cause of the misunderstanding there. Good point.

And yeah, that’s a pretty spot on assessment of what happened.

It was aimed at haviz. And the lack of communication in the CDI is infuriating.

They were probably hoping it would just be a thread about dredge and then carebear topics like lore and puzzles, but when you offer the hardcores who have been ignored for over a year an outlet to express themselves, of course they’re going to shift the topic away from completely inane subjects like lore and … re-rolling and on to actual, real issues like rewards, lack of content and unskippable dialogue sequences.

I prefer Jaya but I can’t change my account name so mehhh

But yeah. Chris comments, I read. And so far they have either been to call out our community and figuratively gave him a disciplinary spanking before only saying that he has read the rest of the thread.

Guhracie.3419:

videoboy.4162:

Guhracie.3419:

Jaya said: “He stopped listening once he made the comment that started this thread.” You replied directly to that statement by saying, “You don’t think his hospital visit had anything to do with that?”

How did you not imply that, please?

Lillith commented on when he stopped posting in the CDI. I asked if his stopping might have something to do with his hospital visit, since they occurred so close together. You just jumped to the conclusion that would lead to the most conflict.>shrug<

This thread could have been extremely inflammatory, and I have worked very hard to make sure it has not been. Your accusation that my intention was to stir up conflict is laughable, in light of that.

You may not have intended to imply that Chris’s statements were connected to his visit to the hospital, but you did imply exactly that.

Jaya didn’t say he quit posting she said he quit listening and I don’t believe that has anything to do with his medical issue, to address your clarification.

I didn’t even come close to implying that his specific comment was due to his hospital visit. I asked if it had to do with why he stopped posting/listening in general, which was what Lilith’s comment flat out stated. And, considering his last post, I’m pretty sure my assumption is correct.

Please read my above comment.

Here let me quote it.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Lol, Guhracie I love that you call me Jaya. They might not know who you’re talking about.

Anyway, I don’t care what his reasoning is… He took the time to basically call out the hardcore fractal community on the day of his hospital visit and continue the fight with this community that had started with this thread. That implies to me that he has stopped listening to all of us, because of his comments to, hendo? Haviz? It was an h name.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Please read my above comment.

Here let me quote it.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Lol, Guhracie I love that you call me Jaya. They might not know who you’re talking about.

Anyway, I don’t care what his reasoning is… He took the time to basically call out the hardcore fractal community on the day of his hospital visit and continue the fight with this community that had started with this thread. That implies to me that he has stopped listening to all of us, because of his comments to, hendo? Haviz? It was an h name.

I was being sincere when I said that you seemed reasonable. That’s the entire reason that I asked you if that could be the reason. I figured you would be the one most likely to give a reasonable, honest answer.

Also, I’m in complete agreement with your last two sentences. I think people like that are the exact reason why he never gave the response he planned to give about the Reset.

There have been some Fractal players that have made some very respectable posts about everything that happened. But, unfortunately, there have been far more people that have done nothing but directly attack the Devs and post demands in threads that had absolutely nothing to do with the Fractal Reset. I feel that that majority of people cost the other players the answer that they all deserved.

I’m reasonable… sure. But make no mistake; while some of the hard core communities posts I had sincere disagreements on I do not think haviz was off base or that Chris should have responded in that way.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

I’m reasonable… sure. But make no mistake; while some of the hard core communities posts I had sincere disagreements on I do not think haviz was off base or that Chris should have responded in that way.

It did seem to be the post that “broke the camel’s back” so to speak, did it not? (can’t believe I had to edit that so it wasn’t censored)

There are a few posts in there that made me want to lose my temper, but that one wouldn’t have been the one I chose to quote. LOL

videoboy.4162:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Please read my above comment.

Here let me quote it.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Lol, Guhracie I love that you call me Jaya. They might not know who you’re talking about.

Anyway, I don’t care what his reasoning is… He took the time to basically call out the hardcore fractal community on the day of his hospital visit and continue the fight with this community that had started with this thread. That implies to me that he has stopped listening to all of us, because of his comments to, hendo? Haviz? It was an h name.

I was being sincere when I said that you seemed reasonable. That’s the entire reason that I asked you if that could be the reason. I figured you would be the one most likely to give a reasonable, honest answer.

Also, I’m in complete agreement with your last two sentences. I think people like that are the exact reason why he never gave the response he planned to give about the Reset.

There have been some Fractal players that have made some very respectable posts about everything that happened. But, unfortunately, there have been far more people that have done nothing but directly attack the Devs and post demands in threads that had absolutely nothing to do with the Fractal Reset. I feel that that majority of people cost the other players the answer that they all deserved.

I don’t feel like you’re reading what she’s writing, for some reason. Nowhere does she say that she believes other people are the reason Chris didn’t give his response. And I’d disagree with that, because I think the reason Chris didn’t give his response is because he’s been thinking “Izzy took care of this. Not my problem anymore.”

I’m sorry that you find me unreasonable, but I’m still going to respond to your posts. Even when they’re not asking me personally.

Guhracie.3419:

videoboy.4162:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Please read my above comment.

Here let me quote it.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Lol, Guhracie I love that you call me Jaya. They might not know who you’re talking about.

Anyway, I don’t care what his reasoning is… He took the time to basically call out the hardcore fractal community on the day of his hospital visit and continue the fight with this community that had started with this thread. That implies to me that he has stopped listening to all of us, because of his comments to, hendo? Haviz? It was an h name.

I was being sincere when I said that you seemed reasonable. That’s the entire reason that I asked you if that could be the reason. I figured you would be the one most likely to give a reasonable, honest answer.

Also, I’m in complete agreement with your last two sentences. I think people like that are the exact reason why he never gave the response he planned to give about the Reset.

There have been some Fractal players that have made some very respectable posts about everything that happened. But, unfortunately, there have been far more people that have done nothing but directly attack the Devs and post demands in threads that had absolutely nothing to do with the Fractal Reset. I feel that that majority of people cost the other players the answer that they all deserved.

I don’t feel like you’re reading what she’s writing, for some reason. Nowhere does she say that she believes other people are the reason Chris didn’t give his response. And I’d disagree with that, because I think the reason Chris didn’t give his response is because he’s been thinking “Izzy took care of this. Not my problem anymore.”

I’m sorry that you find me unreasonable, but I’m still going to respond to your posts. Even when they’re not asking me personally.

sigh

If you’re going to insist on doing so, at least actually read what I say. I didn’t say anything about Lilith thinking other people were the reason he didn’t respond. I said that I thought that.

videoboy.4162:

Guhracie.3419:

videoboy.4162:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Please read my above comment.

Here let me quote it.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Lol, Guhracie I love that you call me Jaya. They might not know who you’re talking about.

Anyway, I don’t care what his reasoning is… He took the time to basically call out the hardcore fractal community on the day of his hospital visit and continue the fight with this community that had started with this thread. That implies to me that he has stopped listening to all of us, because of his comments to, hendo? Haviz? It was an h name.

I was being sincere when I said that you seemed reasonable. That’s the entire reason that I asked you if that could be the reason. I figured you would be the one most likely to give a reasonable, honest answer.

Also, I’m in complete agreement with your last two sentences. I think people like that are the exact reason why he never gave the response he planned to give about the Reset.

There have been some Fractal players that have made some very respectable posts about everything that happened. But, unfortunately, there have been far more people that have done nothing but directly attack the Devs and post demands in threads that had absolutely nothing to do with the Fractal Reset. I feel that that majority of people cost the other players the answer that they all deserved.

I don’t feel like you’re reading what she’s writing, for some reason. Nowhere does she say that she believes other people are the reason Chris didn’t give his response. And I’d disagree with that, because I think the reason Chris didn’t give his response is because he’s been thinking “Izzy took care of this. Not my problem anymore.”

I’m sorry that you find me unreasonable, but I’m still going to respond to your posts. Even when they’re not asking me personally.

sigh

If you’re going to insist on doing so, at least actually read what I say. I didn’t say anything about Lilith thinking other people were the reason he didn’t respond. I said that I thought that.

Okay, look. I know I can be abrasive. Sometimes it’s intentional, and sometimes it’s not. I am honestly trying to have a conversation about what you’re saying. Please try to read this with utter sincerity, while I explain what I’m reading and how it’s translating in my head. Then I will read your response with utter sincerity while you explain what I’m getting wrong, and hopefully we will have shared understanding. (I mean this. There’s no tone in text, but I swear to the Seven, I do.)

So you say, " I’m in complete agreement with your last two sentences."

I look, and other than trying to remember the name, the last two sentences in Lilith’s post are: “He [Chris Whiteside] took the time to basically call out the hardcore fractal community on the day of his hospital visit and continue the fight with this community that had started with this thread. That implies to me that he has stopped listening to all of us, because of his comments to, hendo?”

Then you conclude your agreement with, “I think people like that are the exact reason why he never gave the response he planned to give about the Reset.”

In my mind, this sentence exists in order to summarize and affirm what it is you agree with about her statement, which is where I have stumbled, because I don’t think your statement affirms anything about what she actually said.

What I hear Lilith saying (Jaya, correct me if I’m mistaken here): “If he’s feeling poorly, fine, but he’s the one who stirred the pot on the day of his hospital visit, and in response to a rather benign post, at that.”

What I hear you saying: “Yeah! Those people arguing with him are why you guys never got a response.”

That’s my disconnect. Does that make sense? I am not being intentionally obtuse. I really AM this obtuse.

Guhracie, that was exactly my meaning. I think there’s a disconnect between you and video. You both seem to be moderates who feel similarly but each of you lean a bit to the other side.

Btw sorry I didn’t respond sooner. I just went and bought a new car. Yay me! But obviously couldn’t forum while doing so.

I was telling her I agreed with her. Then shared my thought. Then I added another paragraph elaborating on my thought.

(I’m assuming Lilith is a girl based on the name, so if he/she isn’t, my bad)

videoboy.4162:

I was telling her I agreed with her. Then shared my thought. Then I added another paragraph elaborating on my thought.

(I’m assuming Lilith is a girl based on the name, so if he/she isn’t, my bad)

Haha yeah I’m a female.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

videoboy.4162:

I was telling her I agreed with her. Then shared my thought. Then I added another paragraph elaborating on my thought.

(I’m assuming Lilith is a girl based on the name, so if he/she isn’t, my bad)

Haha yeah I’m a female.

Cool. I’ve “met” several guys in game, that play female characters, that get seriously offended when you refer to them as “she.” LOL

videoboy.4162:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

videoboy.4162:

I was telling her I agreed with her. Then shared my thought. Then I added another paragraph elaborating on my thought.

(I’m assuming Lilith is a girl based on the name, so if he/she isn’t, my bad)

Haha yeah I’m a female.

Cool. I’ve “met” several guys in game, that play female characters, that get seriously offended when you refer to them as “she.” LOL

It’s a fairly common occurrence hehe.

As I’m either a guildie of or have been in team speak with other forum regulars some people know it. I know that hendo is constantly called a she and he isnt. Not sure if it upsets him or not though.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

This said anything that is to divergent from the core will lead to polarizing opinion in the community I think.

Chris

His latest quote.

So here’s my issue. The community is already polarized. And this was only exacerbated by his recent comments. So my question is, since this is related to different types of fractals (and I think they meant like, different fractal modes) how does the current system not polarize the community? It separates the haves from the have nots (in terms of AR and ascended gear). It separates the skillful (high level fractals) from the causal to semi hardcore players (low level fractals). These levels have a distinct line: level 10 for agony and ascended gear, and level 31 for instability fractals and high level. If they were trying to avoid polarizing the community, I’m not sure they succeeded.

Lilith Ajit.6173:

3 + months is not enough time to think about it, apparently. Well. Screw it then.

Lol! Hey at least we got a response right?

Now that’s three separate occasions he said he’s thinking about it/looking into it. It’s going to be pretty easy to keep pushing in the future until he actually gives his thoughts. I’m actually glad he answered Romo. It seemed like the devs were sticking fingers in their ears and singing “lalalalalala” whenever someone asked about the reset.

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271:

Lol! Hey at least we got a response right?

And what a great answer it was…
It’s been almost 4 months since the first threads about the reset, 3.5 month since the patch, and they say they still need more time to think about it…

But I agree we need to continue pushing for an answer, as we didn’t get a real one yet. Hopefully they’ll stop playing the “3 wise monkeys” and give us a real answer one day.

I think his post was misread. He isn’t still thinking about his answer and has decided that Izzy’s answer is the Official Answer.

I don’t know why anyone was expecting any actual dialogue about fractals. People have been telling them exactly what is broken / not fun / badly designed about them for over a year now and they haven’t paid attention to any of it so far.

This thread made me cry.

Someone save this thread in case they just decide to sweep it under the rug AGAIN.

YES THIS IS ON TOPIC, NO NEED TO DELETE MY POST.

Makes me wonder why they even edit this thread. It’s not like they’re getting anything out of it…

SlothBear.9846:

I don’t know why anyone was expecting any actual dialogue about fractals. People have been telling them exactly what is broken / not fun / badly designed about them for over a year now and they haven’t paid attention to any of it so far.

I was expecting the dialogue because Chris Whiteside said it was coming. Previously, Chris was someone who went out of his way to do the right thing. I figured I could rely on him for this. I’m clearly not the only one who has been disappointed here. Regardless, I won’t be making this mistake again.

Jaya! Congrats on the car! (I missed it earlier!)