Colin, maybe you can ask the folks that release the patch notes to provide some more information than this. This tells me nothing – i still don’t know what has officially happened to Orr loot drops.
General
Adjusted Orr Undead loot drops
Were they nerfed again because people were actually making money?
I dunno why you guys are having problems, probably just that thing called bad luck.
We’ve run 3 different dungeons and multiple different fractal levels in my guild, and randomly gotten rares, exotics, blues and greens, with each person getting multiples of each. Its random.
Can go a run and get 1 or 2 rares, another with 3 or 4, then 1 with no rares.
So Vik, we’ve gone from fractals loot being nerfed to there now being a DR bug. Conveniently everyone in your various chat channels agrees with you, despite the inconsistency of your claims.
So what’s the flavor of the month next month gonna be?
So Vik, we’ve gone from fractals loot being nerfed to there now being a DR bug. Conveniently everyone in your various chat channels agrees with you, despite the inconsistency of your claims.
So what’s the flavor of the month next month gonna be?
If you are one of the lucky guys don’t call us liars.
Despite people arguing over if drops have been changed, if there is loot bugs, or perceived changes. Despite Arena net’s stance that they have not done so. The one truth that I see is many people feel the reward in this game as far as drops from Kills and chest is minimal at best. The token system and Vendors replace many of the open world loot items. I am sure the intent was to limit grinding and reward players gradually for normal activity. The problem with that is when monsters rarely drop anything, and when quest rarely provide more than junk items there is little reason to do them. DR bug or not this system needs to be worked over and has been a flawed part of the GW2 experience.
ANet states that it has not found an issue with drops. Nov15 patch notes states “every champion should be guaranteed to drop loot”. Player experience is that champions rarely drop anything.
ANet’s response to player experience: “We can officially confirm this as an X-files level conspiracy at this point.”
One thing I’ve noticed happening a lot more, is the dropping of a small brown wooden chest. I got one off a Vet just yesterday and nearly fainted, that is the first time I’ve seen a vet drop a chest like that and that is an 80 (Which is probably a 150 for how many times it has rolled over) a 60 and a 30. One chest from a vet.
Today, I’ve seen 3 more of these chests, I swear I haven’t seen them prior, if I did it was extremely rare. Is this the chest they were alluding to dropping on Vets/Champs?
Today, I’ve seen 3 more of these chests, I swear I haven’t seen them prior, if I did it was extremely rare. Is this the chest they were alluding to dropping on Vets/Champs?
The chest can drop from anything and should contain a green or better, but some people have been getting lower loot including junk from them.
There are no “stealth nerfs”, any changes will be covered directly in the release notes, of which there are none.
“Adjusted Orr Undead loot drops” – this tells us nothing. For all we know, this DR “bug” is the adjustment you made, so obviously you would think nothing is wrong. ^^
Unless ofcourse you want to enlighten us on what these adjustments are.
Also, there have been plenty of stealth nerfs. Evasive arcana springs to mind immediately
One thing I’ve noticed happening a lot more, is the dropping of a small brown wooden chest. I got one off a Vet just yesterday and nearly fainted, that is the first time I’ve seen a vet drop a chest like that and that is an 80 (Which is probably a 150 for how many times it has rolled over) a 60 and a 30. One chest from a vet.
Today, I’ve seen 3 more of these chests, I swear I haven’t seen them prior, if I did it was extremely rare. Is this the chest they were alluding to dropping on Vets/Champs?
Anet may need to improve on the image of this chest, however, because yesterday afternoon in Wayfarer Foothills, a chest dropped off a vet from the “Protect Linnea as she hunts for the yeti” event. I was unable to interact with it but saw it sitting there right after the Vet image de-spawned after being defeated.
Two things came to mind:
It was someone else’s chest and they failed to see it, or
It was mine and was bugged so I could not interact with it
Either way, I think the way it is not showing up very well is problematic. Now I know what I am looking for, I shall be keeping a closer look out for them.
I suspect what happened was point 1 above and that player just did not see it. The chest was underneath the body of the dead vet and it was only when the body disappeared that I actually spotted it.
10g+ a day SOLEY off penitents when it pops. I use omnomberry bars and no mf gear. I cannot speak for the Dungeons drops as i don’t do many. As for other events maw, dragons etc, my loot is pretty steady. Sometimes I get blues sometimes a yellow or even an exotic. I farm mobs for about 6 hrs a day, taking breaks in between, afking for food/life etc. On average i play 11 1/2 hours a day and see no problem with loot. Much like leveling it is very easy. If you want 80 in a week you can do it, if you want 100g in a week you can do it. RNG is RNG, and if they make the game any easier it might as well add /godmode /infinitecash to the programming. When people don’t get what they want they want someone/something to blame. Most games don’t even respond to these remarks, at least here you get producers telling you 1 on 1, that there is no nerf. GW2 isn’t perfect, but it at least does what most others can’t even do w/o doing it and charging you $$$ for it. As in fixes for crappy aspects of game in the form of cash shop items.
And if Ned there has programming ideas that are better than anets maybe he can do a public service and email them to arenanet.
10g+ a day SOLEY off penitents when it pops. I use omnomberry bars and no mf gear.
This gets me angry. I am lucky to make 40s an hour with 122% MF from all the events in the area when they pop and this person is making more than double that just from 1 event …
10g+ a day SOLEY off penitents when it pops. I use omnomberry bars and no mf gear.
This gets me angry. I am lucky to make 40s an hour from all the events in the area when they pop and this person is making more than double that just from 1 event …
You can do Maw,dragons, and orr events. Just move around when the orr ones aren’t up. if you have loads of karma or don’t care about karma gear etc, buy some of the new chests off of the karma vendors in Orr. You get karma back, junk worth some good cash, minipets, and sometimes lodestones worth a lot. Again its RNG, but I did well with them. And don’t forget your story and dailys.
Also the game isnt about doing ONE thing. People sometimes forget to look at all aspects when grinding/farming etc. When your walking to another wp, are you killing along the way? are you grabbing those mithril ore? Little things like that. i usually end up surprised at the end of the day when I see 89 mithril ore, or 120 junk bones, and feel like I didn’t really even have to pay attention. The mentality part of it that I do is that I:
1.Sell my yellows etc and don’t go get the cash till end of my day
2.I keep depositing mats all day and don’t remove them to sell till end of day.
3.Play the game on my own time and grab the good events as they come.
*Don’t wp out of somewhere until you have at LEAST gotten the WP money back.10 minutes in a zone gathering or killing isn’t going to hurt.
Other than adjustments to Orr rewards (as covered in the release notes) the only change made in this patch to over-all loot was allowing high level characters who are playing in lower level zones the opportunity to earn top level gear to provide greater rewards. (as also covered in the release notes)
There are no “stealth nerfs”, any changes will be covered directly in the release notes, of which there are none.
Then, please, fix patch notes from November 15, I believe there is something like this:
“The drop rarity of Rare and Exotic weapons from certain places in the world (champions, veterans, and players in WvW) has been increased. Rares and Exotics should be much more likely to drop and every champion should be guaranteed to drop loot. This was to ensure that world loot drops were not a significantly worse way of acquiring rare and exotic items than crafting and running dungeons.”
Other than adjustments to Orr rewards (as covered in the release notes) the only change made in this patch to over-all loot was allowing high level characters who are playing in lower level zones the opportunity to earn top level gear to provide greater rewards. (as also covered in the release notes)
There are no “stealth nerfs”, any changes will be covered directly in the release notes, of which there are none.
OK let’s go about this from another angle… How about you patched the game and it somehow changed the way loot drops?
To be fair, you accidentally made it so unidentified dyes dropped more than they should have through a patch error. What’s to say something like this didn’t happen to make [xlevelitem] hardly drop?
I mean after you fixed the “dye drop bug” it actually made getting unidentified dyes a rare drop, hell I used to get a couple per-day and after the fix maybe, MAYBE 1 a week.
You honestly going to tell me that I have just had a string of bad luck with RNG since that day, or since Nov. 15th?
Ok if there’s no DR bug and Stealth Loot Restriction, why has it taken over 1500+ hours to ever see a Exotic drop….funnily it was right after i complained on the forum about never seeing an Exotic drop…
I got Gungir drop from a Champ yesterday, pretty useless exotic, but its still an exotic, only took over 1500 hours to get….so if there is no bugs or nerfs your RNG game mechanics are massively broken and are in dire need of fixing…sorry my opinion..
There is lots of emotion around this issue, specially when players experience differs to what is being stated. Each of us know someone who seems to have all the luck while we also know someone who seems to be hit with permanent DR. The game is less enjoyable for the person who seems to have permanent DR because it is not as rewarding for them than others around them.
Now I understand that the issue is still being investigated, but there is absolutely no confirmation of an issue except for statements saying they haven’t found an issue.
This has now been officially labelled an “X-files level conspiracy” which puts the issue up there with the yeti and UFO’s, but there is lots of evidence of a problem from players. From the new “loot chests” dropping junk to champions dropping nothing, these experiences are “outside” the expectations the patch notes give us.
There is lots of emotion around this issue, specially when players experience differs to what is being stated. Each of us know someone who seems to have all the luck while we also know someone who seems to be hit with permanent DR. The game is less enjoyable for the person who seems to have permanent DR because it is not as rewarding for them than others around them.
Now I understand that the issue is still being investigated, but there is absolutely no confirmation of an issue except for statements saying they haven’t found an issue.
This has now been officially labelled an “X-files level conspiracy” which puts the issue up there with the yeti and UFO’s, but there is lots of evidence of a problem from players. From the new “loot chests” dropping junk to champions dropping nothing, these experiences are “outside” the expectations the patch notes give us.
Just look up gw2 farming on youtube, you will see that videos from 3+ months ago had a lot more loot drops than newer videos will have. Why do you think bots are now going after gathering nodes? When loot was good there was 50/70 bots at pent/shelter, now loot is bad and they teleport around gathering.
Loot is amazing for me, love the update and more mats dropping now(in orr). Using the extra funds to host the vday event and help my guild I’m in. Thx for the patch.
Other than adjustments to Orr rewards (as covered in the release notes) the only change made in this patch to over-all loot was allowing high level characters who are playing in lower level zones the opportunity to earn top level gear to provide greater rewards. (as also covered in the release notes)
There are no “stealth nerfs”, any changes will be covered directly in the release notes, of which there are none.
Supose this post might be lost in a sea of posts, but as far as I can understand, a lot of the stealth nerf/dr bug is related to how the combination of diminishing returns and rng affect each other. On one hand, you have a few people getting a awesome lootstreak of rainbow and unicorns, while the other hand mighe be getting nothing but whites and then the DR hit.
The question I sort of want to ask is, is it a good thing when part of a games populace will percive game mechanics as bugged/unfair and atribute the difference in drops to stealth nerfs? It would seem these things cause a lot of discord in the comunity and in terms of how comunication from you on this matter is viewed.
If people feel that something is unfari/stacked against them, what will keep them coming back to that thing? How will they feel their efforts are rewarded?
This issue, and the lack of confirmation, is a de-motivator. I want to level characters, I want to play, I want to build up materials and gold, but it takes so long to do its not worth the effort. Today I jumped on, did dailies and logged off, I will log in again shortly and try to do some of the monthly, but for the most part I am no longer motivated to play.
10g+ a day SOLEY off penitents when it pops. I use omnomberry bars and no mf gear.
This gets me angry. I am lucky to make 40s an hour with 122% MF from all the events in the area when they pop and this person is making more than double that just from 1 event …
10g+ a day SOLEY off penitents when it pops. I use omnomberry bars and no mf gear.
This gets me angry. I am lucky to make 40s an hour with 122% MF from all the events in the area when they pop and this person is making more than double that just from 1 event …
What level are you?
80.
My lower alts don’t make nearly that much. Drops are about the same blue,green, yellow. But the money comes from higher tier drops, which comes from higher level mobs.
