Guild Wars 2

A summary.

Jan26-2016 , thief got dps increase by faster sword and dagger animations. The purpose was officially explained to be to deal with the new broken revenant.

In same patch necro got unexpected corrupts on both dagger and scepter auto. The purpose was probably same, to deal with the power creep of boons, especially rev and other which held even full resistance uptimes.

Half year later, July26-2016
Necro is specifically buffed / fixed on power side, recieving speedups on the loong channels. 3-moths later the trashsword recieves its first speedup and axe another dmg increase. This is where power necro 1st time since HOT takes over, or is at least and equal choice, but all with axe.

MY QUESTION:

Why isnt necro dagger auto using same speed up animation as thief?
They were almost identical power since launch and never has power necro DPS been something outstanding, PVE or PVP (in pvp its limitied with necro being slow and complains were ON 1hit KO PROCS NOT ITS DPS)

Thief autoattack is now something amazing, both in PVP and even worse in PVE.

I would kindly ask for the necro dagger auto to match thief, and probably add greatsword another animation speed up, the DPS is lacking in PVE, in PVP it can hopefully be split adjusted by a few % if needed.*

I really hope that they don’t focus on Necro MH Dagger. I’m sorry but it’s just a waste of time. Making ES weapons viable in-role is more important than making core weapons viable in-role.

Thieves are meant to be one of the fastest classes (if not the fastest class). They also have the lowest health pool, Necro is the medium health pool I believe. Maybe something to take into consideration?

MOAR dmg. Course oblivion.

penelopehannibal.8947:

Thieves are meant to be one of the fastest classes (if not the fastest class). They also have the lowest health pool, Necro is the medium health pool I believe. Maybe something to take into consideration?

i agree. also necros have the highest health pool (like warriors) + the life force on death shroud that scales with vitality (if you have 27 k health expect to have another 23k deathshroud…also all life force regen skills are % based)

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Necrotic_Slash does slightly more damage than https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Double_Strike but it’s a bit slower.

NS is 330 damage in 2.04 sec (161.8 DPS) and DS is 294 damage in 1.68 sec (175 DPS) assuming tooltip damage. In other words, NS is a bit slower because it does a bit more damage. If they increased the speed of NS to 1.89s instead of 2.04s the two attacks would have the exact same DPS, just 0.15s faster

The other parts of the two auto attacks have the exact same attack speed.

maddoctor.2738:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Necrotic_Slash does slightly more damage than https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Double_Strike but it’s a bit slower.

NS is 330 damage in 2.04 sec (161.8 DPS) and DS is 294 damage in 1.68 sec (175 DPS) assuming tooltip damage. In other words, NS is a bit slower because it does a bit more damage. If they increased the speed of NS to 1.89s instead of 2.04s the two attacks would have the exact same DPS, just 0.15s faster

The other parts of the two auto attacks have the exact same attack speed.

You are COMPLETELY WRONG.

This is same logic as why im asking, why did they split identical animations, when even balance wise both power thief and power necro needed PVP love and power needed PVE love even more.

You only used the first skill and the major DPS boost comes when thief recieved 0.35s AFSTERCAST SHAVE. look:
necro
330 + 257 + 444 / 2.04s = 1031 / 2..04 = 505 dps

thief
294 + 312 + 403 / 1.68s =1009 / 1.68 = 600 dps

That is 20% stronger auto in pvp + more useful skills and gap closers
And 20% + 20% extra MODIFIERS in PVE

Vukorep.3081:

penelopehannibal.8947:

Thieves are meant to be one of the fastest classes (if not the fastest class). They also have the lowest health pool, Necro is the medium health pool I believe. Maybe something to take into consideration?

i agree. also necros have the highest health pool (like warriors) + the life force on death shroud that scales with vitality (if you have 27 k health expect to have another 23k deathshroud…also all life force regen skills are % based)

Idk why i even comment to new poeple who think around the text that pops under character creation……. ugh ok lets do it:

-and necro GS is supposed to be SLOW and BIG HITS…. yet its auto hits around same as necro dagger AND when it goes into TURBO FINISH OF MEGA MODE , its about equal to what thiefs regular autoatack is from start.

Health pool size doesnt matter in any gamemode.