With the implementation of the new dailies, i’m now FORCED to do content i do NOT enjoy.
Underwater combat, I despise it, i avoid it like the plague, i’ll only do it if it’s mandatory, when the hearts done, i’m out, if there’s an event underwater, i skip it, i do NOT like underwater combat. But now i’m forced to do it? That’s not something you should push on your players.
The Combo Killer, this needs to be changed. Flat out, i doubt anyone would disagree, and if they do, they’re probably masochists, this daily is god awful. It needs to be changed to something like “30 or 50 combos used” not 10 combo KILLS, because it isn’t clear what it does and doesn’t proc on, it also doesn’t mention that the kill needs to be done with the finishing proc, so if it’s a burn, it needs to be from the burn.. This is a bad design, remove it.
To all the idiots saying “Errr dont like it don’t do it”
Let me put it in lamen terms for you.
Since release, i have been playing how i have, i’ve enjoyed it, i’ve not badmouthed the game, i’ve not said “No this is a bad patch” i’ve not done anything of the sorts.
And then this one comes out, which pretty much says NO YOU HAVE TO PLAY LIKE THIS.
No. You don’t do that to your consumers. Let ME Choose how i want to play, and don’t penalize me for doing so because you felt the game needs to go in a direction it really didn’t need to go in.
Want to add more variety to Dailies? Sure go ahead, give me the OPTION to get my daily done with different tasks, but don’t FORCE them on me.
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The combo killer has been removed from the weekly rotation, clearly not working as intended.
Also, no one forces you to do dailies -_-
Well, you kinda actually do HAVE to do the dailies to get the laurels for an ascended amulet.
Also, no one forces you to do dailies -_-
The OP is not using the term “force” as in someone is holding a gun to his head. He/she’s using the term to signify that if he wants to get his reward and complete the daily, he’ll now be required to do things he doesn’t normally do or enjoy.
The combo killer has been removed from the weekly rotation, clearly not working as intended.
Also, no one forces you to do dailies -_-
No one forces you to play the game either, does that mean i shouldn’t play? Lol.. get out of here.
People like you will never be happy.
“The Combo Killer, this needs to be changed”
No. Personally I’d like to give Kudos to Anet for introducing a way of TEACHING people mechanics with a reward.
People like you will never be happy.
“The Combo Killer, this needs to be changed”
No. Personally I’d like to give Kudos to Anet for introducing a way of TEACHING people mechanics with a reward.
People like me? It was removed because it wasn’t working as intended, the second post even posted the quote.
Teaching people mechanics? “Hit this button then sit and wait til the mobs low and leech the killing blow with a finisher” Yeah, that’s teaching people how to play the game right huh.
Should I start complaining that to get 100% map completion I have to go into charr lands? Or to get 100% achievements I have to play the charr story and buy some charr cultural gear? Because I hate charr and I avoid them like the plague.
No. Anet isn’t teaching anybody. They’re requiring you to do it. Personally, I play alone most of the time. I know it’s an MMO and I play with my guildies, but my primary method of relaxing is to play alone.
Kinda hard to get dailies if the dailies require you to play with others.
I know.. “Don’t do the dailies.” Hey. It’s how I grind. I collect my experience and my little Jug ’o Karma.
The only light at the end is that they’ve blogged that they’ll eventually have a bunch of options for dailies. So, I’m just gonna assume this is a work in progress.
Soon you will get to choose which dailies you want to do out of a set.
The combo daily should be changed to just combos however.
I found nothing wrong with the combo killer achievement however. I did it with the NPC in southsun cove during the bomb the nests event. All I did was use a projectile or blast finisher on the NPC’s field and then proceeded to kill a target a few seconds later.
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Should I start complaining that to get 100% map completion I have to go into charr lands? Or to get 100% achievements I have to play the charr story and buy some charr cultural gear? Because I hate charr and I avoid them like the plague.
There’s a bit of a difference there, considering how Laurels are going to be pretty much mandatory if you want any sort of progression in this game and getting 100% map completion on a char is merely for achievements.
Killing white creatures (no level) count, so they can be killed with 1 shot. There are a few places in Tyria where there are no less than 10 of them in an area that doesn’t even require swimming further to get more than those 10.
Kill those 10, do something else (even alt-tab for a few minutes) and then do it again. You’re daily will be done in no time.
On a side note though, I agree I hate underwater fighting, and by “forcing” people to do it for their dailies wasn’t a very good decision to get people to do the content that’s not being played much. It’s not fun, that’s why we don’t play it, so change it so it’s fun, not “force” people to do it.
I was kind of worried about this happening. The former dailies were popular because they were essentially easy to complete during a relatively casual playthrough regardless of your playstyle. In attempting to make dailies more “fun” and “interesting” they’ve kind of just made something that was natural more “work.”
I agree that the new system was completely not needed.
In fact it destroys my sense of accomplishment and enjoyment. Because it tries to force me to play the game in ways that are not of my choosing. For example: today it wants me to do so much crafting (when I need to gather more materials); and/or it wants me to kill so many underwater critters (not really sure if it wants some of both or it I’d have to do massive quantities of just one to get the achievement?). So what if I don’t want to kill underwater stuff? Seriously I did that yesterday and today I’m not interested.
So NOW you’re going to penalize us (and not being able to get the achievement is a “penalty”) arbitrarily because we aren’t doing what you want, when you want it done. Who’s brilliant Idea was that?
Should I start complaining that to get 100% map completion I have to go into charr lands? Or to get 100% achievements I have to play the charr story and buy some charr cultural gear? Because I hate charr and I avoid them like the plague.
There’s a bit of a difference there, considering how Laurels are going to be pretty much mandatory if you want any sort of progression in this game and getting 100% map completion on a char is merely for achievements.
Apart from the fact that map completion is mandatory to get legendaries, the only confirmed equipment that will always be boosted up to be best in slot.
And soon achievements will get you laurels too.
They are as mandatory as dailies are.
It’s been out for a few hours,chill……aren’t they making it so you get a choice of dailies to do each day or something at some point anyway?
Should I start complaining that to get 100% map completion I have to go into charr lands? Or to get 100% achievements I have to play the charr story and buy some charr cultural gear? Because I hate charr and I avoid them like the plague.
There’s a bit of a difference there, considering how Laurels are going to be pretty much mandatory if you want any sort of progression in this game and getting 100% map completion on a char is merely for achievements.
Apart from the fact that map completion is mandatory to get legendaries, the only confirmed equipment that will always be boosted up to be best in slot.
And soon achievements will get you laurels too.
They are as mandatory as dailies are.
But you don’t HAVE to do the map completion on a Charr, which you stated you didn’t like. Your argument is now null and void.
It’s been out for a few hours,chill……aren’t they making it so you get a choice of dailies to do each day or something at some point anyway?
If you order a meal that arrives cold, tasteless and disgusting, do you wait a few hours before you give your comments on the meal?
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I agree that the new system was completely not needed.
In fact it destroys my sense of accomplishment and enjoyment. Because it tries to force me to play the game in ways that are not of my choosing. For example: today it wants me to do so much crafting (when I need to gather more materials); and/or it wants me to kill so many underwater critters (not really sure if it wants some of both or it I’d have to do massive quantities of just one to get the achievement?). So what if I don’t want to kill underwater stuff? Seriously I did that yesterday and today I’m not interested.
So NOW you’re going to penalize us (and not being able to get the achievement is a “penalty”) arbitrarily because we aren’t doing what you want, when you want it done. Who’s brilliant Idea was that?
Can you read what you are writing? Can you actually see that? With the exception of the combo one which appears to be broken (but I still got it anyway) these aren’t any more outlandish then the dailies have always been. 15 different kinds of enemies? What if your character is in Orr and doesn’t want to teleport to other zones? 20 gathering materials? What if you had a high level character running through a low level zone with absolutely no use for iron ore and not wanting to waste your Ori pick axe on it?
Would you prefer to just get a free laurel daily? You can just go away for 30 days and then come back to chose your ascended amulet it will be great.
Should I start complaining that to get 100% map completion I have to go into charr lands? Or to get 100% achievements I have to play the charr story and buy some charr cultural gear? Because I hate charr and I avoid them like the plague.
There’s a bit of a difference there, considering how Laurels are going to be pretty much mandatory if you want any sort of progression in this game and getting 100% map completion on a char is merely for achievements.
Apart from the fact that map completion is mandatory to get legendaries, the only confirmed equipment that will always be boosted up to be best in slot.
And soon achievements will get you laurels too.
They are as mandatory as dailies are.
But you don’t HAVE to do the map completion on a Charr, which you stated you didn’t like. Your argument is now null and void.
You can’t say my argument is null and void because you are incapable of reading. Go learn to read and then come back to read the rest of my post.
To get 100% map completion you have to run through charr zones no matter which race your character is.
To get all achievements you have to play as a charr to do the charr personal story and to get the cultural armour.
I am supprised that people used to get their 15 for the daily with out ducking under water to pick off a fish
It’s been out for a few hours,chill……aren’t they making it so you get a choice of dailies to do each day or something at some point anyway?
If you order a meal that arrives cold, tasteless and disgusting, do you wait a few hours before you give your comments on the meal?
Well if they had been working on the meal for quite along time,and most of the food was great (everything in Orr) I wouldn’t nitpick over some minor mistakes or a personal dislike of a certain food……because that’d just make me sound ungrateful!
Should I start complaining that to get 100% map completion I have to go into charr lands? Or to get 100% achievements I have to play the charr story and buy some charr cultural gear? Because I hate charr and I avoid them like the plague.
There’s a bit of a difference there, considering how Laurels are going to be pretty much mandatory if you want any sort of progression in this game and getting 100% map completion on a char is merely for achievements.
Apart from the fact that map completion is mandatory to get legendaries, the only confirmed equipment that will always be boosted up to be best in slot.
And soon achievements will get you laurels too.
They are as mandatory as dailies are.
But you don’t HAVE to do the map completion on a Charr, which you stated you didn’t like. Your argument is now null and void.
You can’t say my argument is null and void because you are incapable of reading. Go learn to read and then come back to read the rest of my post.
To get 100% map completion you have to run through charr zones no matter which race your character is.
To get all achievements you have to play as a charr to do the charr personal story and to get the cultural armour.
Charr zones = about 2 or 3 which are easily doable anywhere from 2-3 hours.
You were saying you didn’t like Charr zones OR the charr story maybe you’re the one who’s incapable of reading. You do NOT need to be a Charr to get 100% map completion, the achievements are for show, that’s it. Laurels will be mandatory if you want to progress.
I am supprised that people used to get their 15 for the daily with out ducking under water to pick off a fish
Really? I’ve been getting my dailies done nearly every single day since launch all without putting so much as a toenail into the water for it specifically.
It’s been out for a few hours,chill……aren’t they making it so you get a choice of dailies to do each day or something at some point anyway?
If you order a meal that arrives cold, tasteless and disgusting, do you wait a few hours before you give your comments on the meal?
Well if they had been working on the meal for quite along time,and most of the food was great (everything in Orr) I wouldn’t nitpick over some minor mistakes or a personal dislike of a certain food……because that’d just make me sound ungrateful!
If you aren’t happy with something, you voice your opinion so the supplier can attempt to improve what they’re doing, you need to grow a backbone if your argument is “it makes me sound ungrateful.”
Let me put it in Lehman’s terms for you. Where is the choice? We were told prelaunch and prelaunch of this particular patch that they would be enhancing the choice of dailies. That has not occurred instead we are now funneled into a new restrictive gameplay. Where is the set of 5 things out of a series of 15 that we can do to complete dailies? Why can we not click off on 5 things out of a choice of 15 that we want to do daily to do these things? And why is there not a weekly. I’ve looked all over and still haven’t found one.
Restriction does not equal choice.
It’s been out for a few hours,chill……aren’t they making it so you get a choice of dailies to do each day or something at some point anyway?
If you order a meal that arrives cold, tasteless and disgusting, do you wait a few hours before you give your comments on the meal?
Well if they had been working on the meal for quite along time,and most of the food was great (everything in Orr) I wouldn’t nitpick over some minor mistakes or a personal dislike of a certain food……because that’d just make me sound ungrateful!
If you aren’t happy with something, you voice your opinion so the supplier can attempt to improve what they’re doing, you need to grow a backbone if your argument is “it makes me sound ungrateful.”
I would have used a stronger word than “ungrateful” if I wouldn’t have been modded for it belive me…..
Yeah you can voice a dissenting opinion,but there’s doing that and there’s blindly ranting about something and insulting everyone who disagrees with your opinion…..as you seem to be doing in every post in this thread.
Should I start complaining that to get 100% map completion I have to go into charr lands? Or to get 100% achievements I have to play the charr story and buy some charr cultural gear? Because I hate charr and I avoid them like the plague.
There’s a bit of a difference there, considering how Laurels are going to be pretty much mandatory if you want any sort of progression in this game and getting 100% map completion on a char is merely for achievements.
Apart from the fact that map completion is mandatory to get legendaries, the only confirmed equipment that will always be boosted up to be best in slot.
And soon achievements will get you laurels too.
They are as mandatory as dailies are.
But you don’t HAVE to do the map completion on a Charr, which you stated you didn’t like. Your argument is now null and void.
You can’t say my argument is null and void because you are incapable of reading. Go learn to read and then come back to read the rest of my post.
To get 100% map completion you have to run through charr zones no matter which race your character is.
To get all achievements you have to play as a charr to do the charr personal story and to get the cultural armour.
Charr zones = about 2 or 3 which are easily doable anywhere from 2-3 hours.
You were saying you didn’t like Charr zones OR the charr story maybe you’re the one who’s incapable of reading. You do NOT need to be a Charr to get 100% map completion, the achievements are for show, that’s it. Laurels will be mandatory if you want to progress.
Serious question, do you have problems reading? It is nothing to be embarrassed about, I’m sure you have a valid reason for these difficulties.
Yes the Charr zones can be rushed through and done quickly but so can the new dailies.
Yes you did need to make a charr if you want to get all the achievements and soon achievements will give out laurels making them as mandatory as dailies are.
Nobody has said anything about having to make a charr to get 100% map completion.
There is already another way outside of laurels to get ascended gear and there will be more.
It’s probably been said already, but underwater combat can apparently be completed by killing underwater critters, like Salmon.
Critters were a great source of different types of creatures needed for the “kill X creature types” achievement from the old daily.
EB has a wide variety of critters (assuming “kill x creature types” returns as a daily), including several locations with decent salmon spawns.
sorry to tell you this but they have been telling you how to play since Nov 15.
They even doubled down on that when they buffed the loot in fractals and nerfed open world 3 times. RIght 3 times and countless nerfs to events all the while buffing 1 dungeon.
Play their way and be well off gold wise as well or play the way you want and be destitute and unable to afford to waypoint.
Been this way for a while now.
Dont see why you have concern now?
There’s a bit of a difference there, considering how Laurels are going to be pretty much mandatory if you want any sort of progression in this game and getting 100% map completion on a char is merely for achievements.
I don’t like having to do fractals to progress, please remove fractals ANet kthx.
They should’ve just kept all of the daily tasks available every day. And from that giant list of daily tasks, you can feel free to complete 5 or however many it requires and finish your daily. So you pick any 5 YOU WANT TO DO!
I think this is a nice change for the dailies for once.
and also they did talked aobut adding a giant list of dailies you wanted to do but it wasn’t ready so they added this for the time being.
People are always afraid of change. No matter how popular a game is or how well something is done the player base always QQs when changes happen.
I like the thread title. Pretty much what I think. I did like the sound of dailies with, perhaps, zone specific content to incentivize visiting other areas; but, they haven’t included any of that so far. Dailies were one thing you could count on working…until today.
People like you will never be happy.
“The Combo Killer, this needs to be changed”
No. Personally I’d like to give Kudos to Anet for introducing a way of TEACHING people mechanics with a reward.
And they did that so well! Thats why they havent removed it from the daily list already because it was garbage, oh wait…
People are always afraid of change. No matter how popular a game is or how well something is done the player base always QQs when changes happen.
Couldn’t be further from the truth. I don’t have a problem with change—at all. It’s the direction that matters, i.e., is it a positive change or a negative change. When you see uproar like this it isn’t because they’ve implemented change, it’s what they have implemented that causes the uproar.
People are always afraid of change. No matter how popular a game is or how well something is done the player base always QQs when changes happen.
Couldn’t be further from the truth. I don’t have a problem with change—at all. It’s the direction that matters, i.e., is it a positive change or a negative change. When you see uproar like this it isn’t because they’ve implemented change, it’s what they have implemented that causes the uproar.
Doesn’t seem like you’ve paid attention to too many game communities. You can have the most positive change ever and people are still going to complain because it changes what they are used to. Humans are fickle with varying tastes and abilities. Any threat to that, even beneficial will cause a stir. Usually the cause is because now they have to go back and put in more work instead of just plowing through as they had been.
The change of the dailies is only a portion of the update and its not even fully instituted yet. So what we have here is a small vocal minority focusing on one portion of the update and judging it before its even completely instituted.
I’m really disappointed in the new dailies. No kill 60 mobs, today I need to find 15 downed players and rez them all. As a guardian I better make sure not to use my skills that might cure other players. I need them dead. Way to go, Anet.
I’m really disappointed in the new dailies. No kill 60 mobs, today I need to find 15 downed players and rez them all. As a guardian I better make sure not to use my skills that might cure other players. I need them dead. Way to go, Anet.
I’m not sure I like the change either, but NPCs count for rezzing. Pretty wide range of places you can find dead NPCs, and you only need 10 per day.
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