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Desv and reddit
Recent years, you mean since the game came out?
There was a thread awhile back with quotes from reddit that a Just a Flesh wound started and someone else continued, sadly it seem to not be used anymore.
Maybe Reddit signed a contract with Anet so they must use Reddit as their primary posting forums?
I too find it annoying that the devs are using almost exclusively Reddit to communicate with the community instead of their official forums.
The only official who post here regularly is Gaile Gray.
There are some theories about this.
Mine is there is some kind of company internal policy that makes everything they say here truly official. So they can’t easily take back any mistake they could make here, and if something escalates here, it could somehow lead to problems with the whole Anet.
So they prefer to talk outside, were the risk is smaller and the talking more informal.
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
Nobody in Anet is restricted to use one platform over another. Many of them find using Reddit to be more preferable to their own personal tastes.
You can just spend the extra few seconds and check:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gw2devtrack/
Also:
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There are a few reasons for this.
1 – Like @Ardid mentioned, its probably internal policy that anything said on these forums is official, hence it must be correct. On Reddit this is not the case and devs are more free to speak there without incurring any promises that they have to keep
2 – Reddit makes it much easier to go through large threads and see what people are saying due to voting and nested comments. Especially for large or controversial topics this makes it much easier for a dev to get all of the feedback. On these forums, they may have to read through 10+ pages on a certain post, with most comments being either nearly identical or irrelevant. On Reddit, these are much easier to separate. You can easily see which ideas have the most support as they rise to the top, and then you can expand the comment tree to see the criticisms/support that other people are sharing for those comments. You can easily ignore troll posts as they are downvoted and out of your way, instead of you being forced to scroll past them (for the most part at any rate). Its much easier to see how many ideas are similar, because they will sometimes be in the same comment thread tied to a single top level comment or two instead of spread out between 10+ pages like they would be here. Its just easier to aggregate information on Reddit.
3 – Far more people use Reddit than use the official forums. If they want the most people to see a post they are going to post it on Reddit and Twitter instead of here on these forums, because more people will see it
If you so desire, you can Google for the Dev response to your concern. (It will be here on these forums.)
Good luck.
No matter the reason, it is sad that developers don’t post more on their own forums than they do on Reddit.
it’s this luck based mystic toilet that we’re all so sick of flushing our money down. -Salamol
The Devs have said Reddit is easier to keep track of comments on a topic that can get lost in forum mega threads. While I agree that they should post more on there own forum they will keep doing as they wish, as most Devs post in there own time and are not obliged to post here over Reddit.
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The problem with voting and nested comments is… well, the best ideas aren’t always the popular ones… just look at what happened with the last US elections…
“Only problem with the Engineer is
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
that it makes every other class in the game boring to play.”
Hawks
I’ve noticed a sad trend in recent years that people see a few posts from devs on reddit and presume that’s all the input that devs are offering to players.
To the extent that there are patterns (and frankly, there are too few posts to establish one with any certainty), it looks like this to me:
- Devs respond to fluff on Reddit, in part because there’s more fluff on Reddit.
- Devs respond to irresponsible speculation on Reddit, because that is allowed on Reddit, but not on the forums.
- Devs respond (sometimes) on Reddit during the rare outage, because they can’t post here during e.g. a DDoS attack.
- Devs tend to post here first about certain types of bugs.
- Devs use Reddit for AMA or spontaneous AMA, because Reddit is suited to that format, while the forums are not.
- Most importantly, critical ideas are either made here or cross-posted to Reddit, such as Linsey Murdock’s initiative to find out how we’d like to see the vault collection updated.
tl;dr devs post during their free time; they post in many different places, including the forums and reddit.
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If you so desire, you can Google for the Dev response to your concern. (It will be here on these forums.)
Good luck.
I do not desire to google through reddit to find out why servers are down. I don’t want support 3rd party troll platform (which reddit is really) because devs refuse to use own forums – it is just really really wrong on many levels.
@Illconceived Was Na.9781: where does my example with season 4 title fits where devs favored reddit crew instead of players who would use official forums? Also, forums were working when login servers were screwed on Wednesday – not a word from devs here but multiple on reddit.
Also, reddit is everything but easy to read. Not to mention the only things you really see is some garbage (hello 1000th post about muffins) supported by common reddit crew. A lot of good ideas or posts simply get downvoted to oblivion or just die before they even get any attention. The format is simply wrong.
On official forums you have sections and structure and threads are visible even if they don’t appeal to roleplaying community.
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IMHO , reddit = 4chan
Enough said.
But they did post here re: network problems, on the Support forum.
I have no problem with the devs posting on Reddit. However, I do believe they should be required by Anet to post the exact same content on the forums to assure that no inside information that would give “Reddit only” readers an unfair advantage would happen. I’m not implying that it would happen intentionally.
Even if it was simply a Reddit Dev Tracker thread that required some work on our part to verify, it would be a good thing simply because people are involved and I don’t know any that don’t make at least an occasional mistake.
The problem with voting and nested comments is… well, the best ideas aren’t always the popular ones… just look at what happened with the last US elections…
Agreed, but by being able to easily discern what the popular comments are, ANet can easily see which ideas/complaints it needs to address the most. Even bad ideas can get a large amount of support sometimes, to the point where players feel that they deserve said idea to be implemented (or said feature to be removed) without any statement from the company on the matter. By being able to quickly single out these types of ideas, ANet can address them early and keep this from ever happening.
Besides who really cares where they post more as long as they communicate with us as often as they do? This community is pretty well spoiled with how much communication we get from ANet. Even if they do primarily use Reddit we still get a lot of communication from them, which is good
If you so desire, you can Google for the Dev response to your concern. (It will be here on these forums.)
Good luck.
I do not desire to google through reddit to find out why servers are down. I don’t want support 3rd party troll platform (which reddit is really) because devs refuse to use own forums – it is just really really wrong on many levels.
@Illconceived Was Na.9781: where does my example with season 4 title fits where devs favored reddit crew instead of players who would use official forums? Also, forums were working when login servers were screwed on Wednesday – not a word from devs here but multiple on reddit.
Also, reddit is everything but easy to read. Not to mention the only things you really see is some garbage (hello 1000th post about muffins) supported by common reddit crew. A lot of good ideas or posts simply get downvoted to oblivion or just die before they even get any attention. The format is simply wrong.
On official forums you have sections and structure and threads are visible even if they don’t appeal to roleplaying community.
I don’t use Reddit, so I have no idea what the Devs might be saying there. The post I was referring to, and even specifically stated, is on these forums. You can’t use the search function here, because it is broken; thus, you must use Google.
Also, if you would merely scan the forum Dev Tracker, you would see the posts about the server issues (no need to even use Google for that particular issue).
The main thing here is that devs post on their own time. Some post here most of the time. Some post there most of the time. Mostly, devs don’t spend much time posting at all, so whatever amount we see is going to be less than we want.
I’m happy that they post at all. It’s an individual’s choice to focus on the fact that they don’t post as often as one thinks they should in the venue one would choose for them.
I do not desire to google through reddit to find out why servers are down.
If the servers are down, they can’t post on the forums — the forums use the same servers. Heck, the forums have been down more times than the game in my experience.
I don’t want support 3rd party troll platform (which reddit is really) because devs refuse to use own forums – it is just really really wrong on many levels.
They don’t refuse to use their own forums. They are people just like you & I, posting on their own time (not getting paid by ANet to post). I’m not sure why you think there’s some sort of morality involved here.
@Illconceived Was Na.9781: where does my example with season 4 title fits where devs favored reddit crew instead of players who would use official forums?
I think you need to actually read what was going on with ‘season 4’.
Also, forums were working when login servers were screwed on Wednesday – not a word from devs here but multiple on reddit.
Actually, no, they weren’t. I couldn’t get in to the forums most of the time, either.
Also, reddit is everything but easy to read. Not to mention the only things you really see is some garbage (hello 1000th post about muffins) supported by common reddit crew.
Also, you find it hard to read on Reddit, but others find it easier (including myself). I only see muffin/cupcake posts around the anniversary and then it’s just one person arranging something nice for the devs.
A lot of good ideas or posts simply get downvoted to oblivion or just die before they even get any attention. The format is simply wrong.
I haven’t seen that on r/guidwars2. The posts that die usually didn’t offer anything new compared to other recent posts. The system has flaws, to be sure, but it largely promotes newer, relevant topics and demotes repeats, clickbait, etc.
On official forums you have sections and structure and threads are visible even if they don’t appeal to roleplaying community.
Roleplaying? What RP posts on Reddit are you talking about? There’s almost nothing about RP there. (Or, to be fair, here on the forums)
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