Guild Wars 2

So yea a simple question why doesnt this game have direct trade you know like gw1. and you cant say its because of gold sellers thats just silly.

Ok, I’ll be silly.

One reason is to inconvenience Gold sellers and buyers. Another reason is to relieve us of having cities nicknamed Spamadam. Another reason is to cut down on scams, and the resulting CS assistance and resources.

Good luck.

It’s because of scam artists actually. They decided it was better allocation of people resources to have something like the TP than it was to have people tracking down all the support reports of scamming.

You can still do somewhat a direct trade thru the in game mail system or thru a guild bank but it’s on you if something goes wrong.

If you trust someone and want to trade with them specifically (like a friend or guildmate,) you can just do that via mail. If you just want to sell an item, you can do that over the Trading Post, so the rest of us don’t have to put up with constant /map advertisements. They were an irritating, but necessary thing in GW1, and at the very beginning of GW2, I remember people still doing that. I’m glad they don’t anymore.

Also, it does help cut down on scams. That might sound silly, and it is, but that doesn’t make it less true.

It’s not like the direct trade didn’t come with it’s own problems anyway in GW1.

I’m a bit confused or maybe baffled. First you are unhappy with trade via mail:

MarkoNS.3261:

I get spammed by 3 or 4 sellers per day especially in pvp lobby, anyway somethign came across my mind today but wont all of anets gold seller issues be solved if they simply forbid players to mail gold to each others ^^ ?

Then you are for banning all trade between players:

MarkoNS.3261:

Well then if Anet is serious about stopping gold sellers they should ban all trade amongst players and ban every single person who used a gold seller.

Only to end up with now asking for Arenanet to implement direct player trade?

Is your account being used by multiple entities or are you simply undecided what exactly you want from the game?

MarkoNS.3261:

So yea a simple question why doesnt this game have direct trade you know like gw1. and you cant say its because of gold sellers thats just silly.

You can trade… at your own risk. GL

MarkoNS.3261:

So yea a simple question why doesnt this game have direct trade you know like gw1. and you cant say its because of gold sellers thats just silly.

• Use of the TP prevents all sorts of scamming, including item substitution, misleading counter trades, disinformation about market value, and 3-card monte-type scams.
• The TP is an incredibly efficient gold sink, due to the 15% fees.
• The 5% listing fee for the TP forces sellers to be more cautious with their choice of sale prices.
• The TP is global (covering everyone playing the game), ensuring that the maximum amount of information is shared by the entire community. Everyone knows market prices because it’s only a (right-) click away.
• Similarly, the API to the TP allows for people to be aware of market trends and numerous websites allow people to have similar access to opportunities for crafting, flipping, ‘sniping’, and so on.

tl;dr the question is: why doesn’t every MMO use a similar system?

Just the other day you made posts saying that players shouldn’t be able to send gold to eachother via mail because of gold scammers. Now you’ve made a post asking why we don’t have direct trade (which we do have). Interesting.

No wonder the Devs are sometimes confused over what the playerbase wants. Even the players seem confused.

In no particular order.
Scammers,gold sellers,taxes,no wtb/wts spam in the chat.

1. Because scammers make for significant complaints, which means time spent by GM’s/CS Reps, which costs money.
2. Because it inconveniences gold sellers who are competing with ANet for player dollars.
3. Because providing an alternative to the TP would allow cheap players (gasp) to avoid the only significant gold sink in the game.
4. All of the above.

Waiting on OP’s response(s) with baited breath…….

Less tickets to support too.

I would not be happy if they added a GW1-style trading system. The trade window itself was decent but, oh, that endless chat spam just swamped everything else and was not confined to the trade channel. And selling stuff was so slow that I often would not bother.

TP all the way for me – fast, convenient and a great way to see what stuff is really worth.

MarkoNS.3261:

you do realize im not saying remove tp, they could add direct trade along side it,

Yeah but the TP has a gold sink tax to it, so even if mechanically the TP would run along side it, people would be trading anything to avoid paying tax, granted mostly high end stuff, but that’s where it’d effect the economy the most, the tax from Legendary Weapons not being taken out of the economy like it should be.

As others have said, you can trade directly with other players if you have a specific buyer/seller in mind via mail. Doing so is at your own risk, though. I agree on the taxes being necessary to keep the economy in check and I don’t miss Spamadan or standing around for hours trying to sell something, even something popular like ectos/lockpicks/Zaishen coins/cons. People already try to use map chat and LFG to sell stuff, let’s not make it worse please.

Even with the TP operating alongside direct trading, there’s an issue with taxes / gold sink. If I’m directly trading my Dawn for your Dusk, for instance, there’s not an obvious way to tax that. I suppose the system could look up the “sell” orders for one and charge one person 10% and the other 5%,, then do the reverse for the other, but that could become increasingly confusing with multiple items on each side. Still doable, but ugly. Death and taxes, you know.

At the least, I’m opposed to the idea because of all the spam I think it would create. No, thank you.