Guild Wars 2

Seems to be an increase with the ToK piling up in my bank inventory. I have all my alts at 80 and don’t find them very useful. I keep them in case I level more alts, which I won’t until the new and improved trait system is more forgiving than its current form. Now I know that with new players coming to the game, they might find the ToK useful, but I’m just curious the general consensus.

The ToK are about the only reward with the new login system that I don’t benefit from. Maybe it would be better for them to be traded for those players that would use them? Suppose I could use them for skill points and turn them into gold.

I’m up to 227 Tomes of Knowledge now. I honestly don’t know what I’ll do with them once I hit a full stack. I already have 6 level 80’s (one of whom is basically a mule that I only got to level 80 so I could park him at World Bosses to farm for the collection trinkets.) I have no plans to make another level 80 unless ANet releases a new race. (Which seems unlikely.)

Would definitely love to be able to sell them to players who want them, but I’m fairly certain ANet will never, ever do this since it completely trivializes the leveling process/experience.

You benefit from the login reward that gives you luck?

I still find them useful. When i get to a second stack i will probably gett annoyed.

As a player who enjoys making new alts to test out builds or what not I am very grateful for every and any ToKs I get. It is better to be rewarded something instead of nothing albeit I agree if one truly has no use for them it would be nice to have an option allowing us to convert it into something else.

But yeah – for levelling the more ToKs the better?

You can always use them to key farm.

I have a growing stack of them in the bank that I don’t really expect to ever use.

I DO plan on making at least 2 more characters at some point. Holding off until they add another race to the game, which I expect that will happen at some point, and even if it doesn’t I’ll probably get tired of waiting and create characters of the last 2 professions I don’t have (Thief and Warrior) eventually. I’ve already got the character slots bought.

But I’m one of those crazy people who actually ENJOY leveling. I like going around various zones, doing zone completion and having my character get better as I go. I like the feeling of progression. So I won’t use my Tomes for that.

I mean, like you said, I guess I could use them for skill points, but I have more than enough skill points lying around as it is. I’m not one of those people who have hundreds upon hundreds of them on every character, but most characters have a good stockpile of 50+ at this point (and that’s on 6 characters). And most of the time I can’t really be bothered to do all the research and clicking required for turning SP into Gold (unless I’m really low on gold and in dire need of more). So more skill points aren’t really something I’m particularly interested in either.

I guess there’s black lion key runs, which the tomes would probably prove very handy for. But I’m not really into that sort of thing either, too much repetitive grind, and my crap luck would probably mean it wouldn’t be worthwhile anyway.

Not really sure what they could do to make them more appealing, though. Maybe they could allow conversion of multiple tomes into a trait unlock or something, that might be handy for players with alts and such in the new trait system. I could certainly see myself using something like that a lot more than using them for levels, at least. But that still doesn’t do much for people who have all the alts they want and no interest in more.

Useful if I want another instant level 80 although I’m won’t because of the trait system.

Not really. All they’re doing for now is taking a bank slot.

Almost got 500, totally no use for me lol.

Novuake.2691:

You benefit from the login reward that gives you luck?

I still find them useful. When i get to a second stack i will probably gett annoyed.

Yah, I’m only at 179/300 for Luck. I haven’t broke down and done the power salvage from ectos and ordering stacks of blues to salvage just seems boring. So, I just salvage what I get when I get and click through stacks of luck when I use my artificer to condense them.

How’d you power through your luck? How long did it take? Was it useful?

Trevor Bennett.3691:

Hmm, I love getting them. Once I finish my 8th alt so I have all the classes I’ll use them on new characters to 1)Run through the personal story, 2)Map complete, and finally 3) Cash out the skill points for w/e.

At minimum you get skill points out of them, with a little more effort you get all the level up rewards.

Let’s be clear about that. For those of us who don’t have the time, or interest if we’re being honest, to play multiple alts, the tomes of knowledge serve little purpose.

Even the skill points are moot given that criteria.

I have almost 200 scrolls of knowledge as well. Once the monthly achievements, for skill points, disappeared . . . so did my need to hoard and use these items. Like the tomes, the scrolls just occupy a space for the time when they will matter again.

I find them useful because I have a habit of deleting my characters once they’re Level 80 and geared in Exotic. I mostly do PvP, though, so there isn’t any way to level up other than with Tomes of Knowledge.

If I ever have all Level 80 characters I want to keep, though, I’ll just destroy any extra tome I get. That’s already what I do with all these ascended materials. No need to re-purpose items for compulsive hoarders.

Yes I love them and glad I am getting them on a little more regular basis.

Mine will go for key farming and some will be set aside to go toward a new profession/race if that’s ever put in. But key farming is the main use for me so I use all the ones I get.

I don’t have much use for them currently. Of course, since they’re just one slot on my asuran layabout, I mean, Engineer . . . doesn’t bother me any.

Now to dispose of all this Bloodstone Dust. Someone get me a pastry dough maker, I’m going to make Bloodstone Dust Cinnamon Rolls. This is obviously a wonderful idea and nothing could go wrong.

Not most of the time.

Though I did get my new necro to level 39 in the tutorial area with the various tomes, scrolls, and writs I had. That was amusing.

I’ve got more tomes and scrolls than I’ll ever need given their uses currently. Even if 8 new professions were released I still wouldn’t be able to burn through them all unless the level cap was simultaneously raised.

But because they are such good time savers against the game’s grind (grind from my own personal perspective) they keep accumulating in my bank in case I ever have a need to bypass leveling time gates.

Considering I have multiple accounts with additional character slots on them I say yes, I do find them useful Glad they are more abundant now.

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Trevor Bennett.3691:

Hmm, I love getting them. Once I finish my 8th alt so I have all the classes I’ll use them on new characters to 1)Run through the personal story, 2)Map complete, and finally 3) Cash out the skill points for w/e.

At minimum you get skill points out of them, with a little more effort you get all the level up rewards.

Let’s be clear about that. For those of us who don’t have the time, or interest if we’re being honest, to play multiple alts, the tomes of knowledge serve little purpose.

Even the skill points are moot given that criteria.

I have almost 200 scrolls of knowledge as well. Once the monthly achievements, for skill points, disappeared . . . so did my need to hoard and use these items. Like the tomes, the scrolls just occupy a space for the time when they will matter again.

Key farming not interesting?

I make good use of them. I appreciate their existence, certainly.

Wow how do you guys get so many? I’d die for such a huge stack of tomes to forego the “NPE” leveling entirely.

ainekitten.9517:

Wow how do you guys get so many? I’d die for such a huge stack of tomes to forego the “NPE” leveling entirely.

PvP for me.

I like leveling. Well, I did, before trait revamp. Now, it’s not as much fun. Still, I’m more likely to avoid making a character than I would to use a Tome.

If you know you’re absolutely not going to level another alt ever, just blow them for skill points and turn skill points into gold via the mystic forge.

And if you come telling me you don’t need more gold either then… well I don’t know what to say then.

Loving the tomes, especially since I always know I have a chance of buying another char slot and rolling a new toon.

i dont plan to stop buying toon slots… itd be kinda useful to have 20 mesmers to port to jps. for that ill need 1200 tomes and im always short cuz i dont do things that get me a lot of tomes. we have up to 64 toon slots, just do things to get gold so you can buy more slots if you have a tome surplus.

Know what could be a nice idea? If ANET were to add these daily to JPs. Or at least, 5 Writs of Experience.

Kythan Myr.4719:

Novuake.2691:

You benefit from the login reward that gives you luck?

I still find them useful. When i get to a second stack i will probably gett annoyed.

Yah, I’m only at 179/300 for Luck. I haven’t broke down and done the power salvage from ectos and ordering stacks of blues to salvage just seems boring. So, I just salvage what I get when I get and click through stacks of luck when I use my artificer to condense them.

How’d you power through your luck? How long did it take? Was it useful?

Im only running on ~168% but I get A LOT more luck in a day than the reward gives, so its kind of n drop in the Atlantic.

All my MF is gained from Salvage and odd reward here and there over the last year of playing.

I like the Tomes of Knowledge. The current status of necros make them not the best, but I still want an 80 necro. I’ve been using tomes to get them there so if one day they find some use, I don’t need to level one up.

Where do you get so many tomes? I have 8 and played already over 2.5k hours, all professions on level 80 – I don’t need them, but I just wonder how you can get so many tomes? Is it the PvP rewards? Be cause I don’t do any PvP.

Yep they’re useful even though I have 8 level 80s. I get a free skill point every time I use one.

Trevor Bennett.3691:

Hmm, I love getting them. Once I finish my 8th alt so I have all the classes I’ll use them on new characters to 1)Run through the personal story, 2)Map complete, and finally 3) Cash out the skill points for w/e.

At minimum you get skill points out of them, with a little more effort you get all the level up rewards.

so much this. I have 13 80s and im at 60 tomes right now. Im being cheap and not buying another toon slot, but its only 118g… I can auto level a new guard since I hate my norn one. I LOVE getting TOK. If you think theyre annoying just use them for skill points. If you dont use skill points… lol.

Thank you Anet <3

ProtoGunner.4953:

Where do you get so many tomes? I have 8 and played already over 2.5k hours, all professions on level 80 – I don’t need them, but I just wonder how you can get so many tomes? Is it the PvP rewards? Be cause I don’t do any PvP.

He is probably getting most from PvP, although login rewards give like 11(guesstimate) during the 28 day cycle.

ProtoGunner.4953:

Where do you get so many tomes? I have 8 and played already over 2.5k hours, all professions on level 80 – I don’t need them, but I just wonder how you can get so many tomes? Is it the PvP rewards? Be cause I don’t do any PvP.

People have been getting them from PvP and rarely from black lion chests. Now with the new dailies you will get 10 (or 16 if you chose them from the Chest of Knowledge) every 28 days.

They’re great because the leveling experience is so bad.

Lord Kuru.3685:

They’re great because the leveling experience is so bad.

To each their own. I found the leveling experience to be leaps and bounds better than any MMO I’ve played. There are many things wrong with GW2. The leveling experience is not one of them.

Mordalus.8146:

Lord Kuru.3685:

They’re great because the leveling experience is so bad.

To each their own. I found the leveling experience to be leaps and bounds better than any MMO I’ve played. There are many things wrong with GW2. The leveling experience is not one of them.

This is my take on it too. Even with the changes, it’s still hands above any other MMO I’ve played.

Largely a waste of time for me. When I make an alt, i like to level it the proper way and experience everything fully.

Like Mordalus, I have never had any issues with the levelling experience. Whilst i understand some of the angst over the NPE, it certainly hasnt destroyed the game for me and some bits enhance the experience I found.

That said, tomes are useful for those with with a larger number of alts or wanting to get a wvw toon up to speed fast

I have 9 level 80’s with no intention of creating a new character unless a new class/race is introduced so for me they are a total waste. It is not only the Tomes of Knowledge but the Tomes of mentorship do the same thing and since I have taken all my toons through to the end of their personal story they are once again a waste.

27 Tomes of Knowledge + 40 Tomes of Mentorship + 25 experience scrolls = 0

I do not delete my characters once creating them, never have and never will.

EXTREMELY USEFUL for when you create a new character and want to skip the atrocity that is the NPE (I’m not a new player, so I’m not a fan). I gathered a bunch of them, used a scroll, the tomes, and writs I’ve acquired and got to 60 in about a minute. Then I did a few personal story instances to 66, then crafted two disciplines and ding 80.

There great for leveling alts, and if not, they are skill point scrolls for a level 80. What’s not to like about them?

Personally I find them a curse. See, I am lazy, so I cannot leave them unused. My latest EU character went from 0 to 80 in under 10 minutes. I didn’t really have time to get to know him like the others.

Luckily I will not be getting quite as many in the future.

I am really happy for all these people playing PvP only and having stacks of tomes, but I’m even more happy for all those people who were forever asking for instant 80 consumables, XP collectors and more accessible tomes for alts, especially after the NPE update. At 8 lvl 80s, I’m still creating alts and I find these tomes extremely useful.

2 advices to those with stacks of tomes:

• Key farming.
• Skillpoint to gold.

Garambola.2461:

Personally I find them a curse. See, I am lazy, so I cannot leave them unused. My latest EU character went from 0 to 80 in under 10 minutes. I didn’t really have time to get to know him like the others.

Luckily I will not be getting quite as many in the future.

You’ll get 10 for every 28 logins, or 130 for every 365 logins. (Which comes to 1 every 2.8 days) ^^

We wvw players cry for a trader where we can buy ToK for badges. Most of us dont like the boring pve leveling, dont have the money to lvl with crafting and dont want to punish our world with an upleveled rallybot.

Trevor Bennett.3691:

Hmm, I love getting them. Once I finish my 8th alt so I have all the classes I’ll use them on new characters to 1)Run through the personal story, 2)Map complete, and finally 3) Cash out the skill points for w/e.

At minimum you get skill points out of them, with a little more effort you get all the level up rewards.

1- that’s a good thing you plan to run through personnal story, maybe you will be able to understand how flawed it has become since the last change. Yes personnal story is a total mess right now.

2- Map completion? I assure you map completion is much more fun if you do it while leveling and you will gain more then enough experience to do it without the need to use level booster.

3- And yes, ultimately, this is just some skill point that we can burn in the mystic forge.

Trevor Bennett.3691:

Hmm, I love getting them. Once I finish my 8th alt so I have all the classes I’ll use them on new characters to 1)Run through the personal story, 2)Map complete, and finally 3) Cash out the skill points for w/e.

At minimum you get skill points out of them, with a little more effort you get all the level up rewards.

I completely agree with this. Every alt has an earning potential, so yes, DEFINITELY worth it. Even if i don’t play the alt immediately, i know there will be a time i will want to go mapping with it or story segments with it. AND it gets me past that horrible NPE on my alts, so i can learn the class without having all the skills locked.

Plus, the more alts ya got, the more chances to make them look utterly rad.

I <3 Tomes of Knowledge.

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