Guild Wars 2

Has anyone ever seen some one from anet actually play the game. Most of the time they talk about what is in the best interest of us or what they think would be more fun. But it seems to be going in the wrong direction cause everyone keeps complaining. I all most wonder if they even play there own game. I mean i wonder if they are satisfied with how it turned out.

Does everyone think that Anet or NCsoft or who ever makes the decisions is creating better content that the gamer actually wants or just easy filler to appease people cause they promised they would give us new stuff?

It’s pretty obvious they don’t.

Well, no, that might not be true. But they definitely do not have enough people to reflect the large amount of playstyles people have and they choose to remain oblivious to a lot of them.

I think they play it mostly on their test server(s).

And occasionally they play on the regular servers? I’ve seen screenies, but not once one on my world (which seems not too odd, because I am not playing on an US world).

Yes, I’ve seen the ArenaNet tag in-game numerous times.

And yes, I really enjoy the Living Story content, and updates so often. =)

I used to see anet people really frequently (almost daily at world events) on FA… but the last like… 3-4 months I have barely seen them at all.

So if you do see them are they like covered in alot of amazing gear and stuff cause they made the game so they don’t have to like do stuff well what we consider the dirty work. Farming, praying excetera.

There seem to be a few of them on my server(Stormbluff Isle). I mostly see them in WvW and in random zones around the world levelling alts. During Southsun they were farming champion instigators with the zerg like the rest of us.

Hopefully they enjoy what they have created…

Yea i’ve seen quite a few dev’s in game before.

Of course, those might have been bots wearing the ANet logo. I mean, who would report them? ^^

Astral Projections.7320:

Of course, those might have been bots wearing the ANet logo. I mean, who would report them? ^^

I had the same thought.

Some nice Anet bots that pretend that Anet is attending and having fun.

Just joking… (but they are working so hard, there might be no time to play with the gamers.. except in their spare time.. but you know.. everyone needs some time off from their work.. ^^)

Zero.6082:

Has anyone ever seen some one from anet actually play the game. Most of the time they talk about what is in the best interest of us or what they think would be more fun. But it seems to be going in the wrong direction cause everyone keeps complaining. I all most wonder if they even play there own game. I mean i wonder if they are satisfied with how it turned out.

Does everyone think that Anet or NCsoft or who ever makes the decisions is creating better content that the gamer actually wants or just easy filler to appease people cause they promised they would give us new stuff?

I have seen a few that play pretty regularly – they often join us in WvW.

I’ve even duoed with one Anet employee in open world to lvl up his Engineer. Was quite fun. Great convo.

So yes, they most definitely play their game.

One could only hope

maybe that way the broken aspects, or bugs, will get more attention instead of so much effort going into the gem store

they do not play the game. how do I know this? izzy uses divinity gear on his warrior.

Zero.6082:

Has anyone ever seen some one from anet actually play the game. Most of the time they talk about what is in the best interest of us or what they think would be more fun. But it seems to be going in the wrong direction cause everyone keeps complaining. I all most wonder if they even play there own game. I mean i wonder if they are satisfied with how it turned out.

Does everyone think that Anet or NCsoft or who ever makes the decisions is creating better content that the gamer actually wants or just easy filler to appease people cause they promised they would give us new stuff?

Are you freakin’ kidding me?! They do a 30min-1hr Live Stream every Friday of them playing the game. (Check their YouTube channel).

Most of the devs are members of the same guild on SBI server. I’ve played with a few in Dynamic Events, sPvP, and WvW when that server was my home.

As for people “keep complaining”, that’s because they’re a very vocal minority. You cannot please all the people, all of the time; you can please some of the people, most of the time. And right now, what they’re doing as far as the direction of the game and what’s “fun”, I think it’s brilliant.

pullnointer.1476:

they do not play the game. how do I know this? izzy uses divinity gear on his warrior.

Pretty sure you have to play the game if you’re to have a character you can use divinity gear on, to get all technical.

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

And, no, our game accounts aren’t the same as GM accounts; we don’t get special items or anything like that.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Cant-infuse-accesories/first#post2092474

Ive seen:
3 on FA
2 on Kaineng

For the most part they are all nice and decent to talk to, one of them on Kaineng was grumpy but ey could have been a bad day.

From what I got as an understanding from a short little asura on FA, the ANET tags you see over their heads work exactly the same way as the commander tags. They can pop it on and off freely.

Of course they do! I see them on from time to time, here is my latest screenshot I got today!

I swear I’m not stalking >.> <.<

Jeffery are you happy with the game currently then cause i almost would rather you guys take more time to work on creating one really good up date then a bunch of small kind of boring ones. Moa races and Dragon ball are like call of duty fun for the 1st maybe the second time but nothing to amazing to play over and over again. I don’t know if it is considered the most “fun” i just expect better considering all the other things that were created in GW1. Underworld, Shards of Orr, The Deep, And the other two continents. Can we bring back the crystal desert or something?

good ole chestnut.

Zero.6082:

Jeffery are you happy with the game currently then cause i almost would rather you guys take more time to work on creating one really good up date then a bunch of small kind of boring ones. Moa races and Dragon ball are like call of duty fun for the 1st maybe the second time but nothing to amazing to play over and over again. I don’t know if it is considered the most “fun” i just expect better considering all the other things that were created in GW1. Underworld, Shards of Orr, The Deep, And the other two continents. Can we bring back the crystal desert or something?

Good that dragon ball is temporary content then. You seem to think most people like to run the same stuff over and over again, but I don’t think that’s true.

People loved the MF dungeon when it came out, and ran it a bunch of times, but if it was permanent, 3-4 months down the road, it would be dead. Unless they left the jet pack and mini drops in there maybe, because people will grind for loot.

But in most games, most good permanent content gets abandoned in a few months time.

pullnointer.1476:

they do not play the game. how do I know this? izzy uses divinity gear on his warrior.

How to tell if your game mechanics might not be great.

Izzy “Sboon” Cartwright is involved.

I have seen about 4 different characters with the Anet tag over the past several months. The most obvious times were during the recent Karka Queen event in Southsun and Tuesday evening standing in Lion’s Arch near the NPC that sends you into the solo instance.

I did not note the names of the characters but they appear to be higher level just like the rest of us.

Yak’s Bend Server

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

I know that I play on Live, but usually only a few hours per week. (What with work and all.) I also don’t always represent the Arena.net guild, since it’s nice to just play sometimes. And, no, our game accounts aren’t the same as GM accounts; we don’t get special items or anything like that.

I would expect a required couple of hours live playtime per week in a company like A.net? Any comments on that?

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

I know that I play on Live, but usually only a few hours per week. (What with work and all.) I also don’t always represent the Arena.net guild, since it’s nice to just play sometimes. And, no, our game accounts aren’t the same as GM accounts; we don’t get special items or anything like that.

Are there also Devs that play on Eu servers would be nice to see some on Eu also

Yes, they definitely play the game. A lot of the time you won’t know they’re from ANet, however. We have one in our guild that does WvW with us a lot. He joined some time back because he got sick of everyone constantly going straight for him when he had his tag up. Kinda cool having someone from ANet in our guild, but really hes just like everyone else.

I don’t think it matters that much whether Anet plays the game or not, since to run into the problems most people run into, an Anet employee would have to play for hundreds if not thousands of hours. This isn’t reasonable.

And even if you play the game…no one says an Anet employee is going to play every aspect of the game.

Zero.6082:

Has anyone ever seen some one from anet actually play the game. Most of the time they talk about what is in the best interest of us or what they think would be more fun. But it seems to be going in the wrong direction cause everyone keeps complaining. I all most wonder if they even play there own game. I mean i wonder if they are satisfied with how it turned out.

Does everyone think that Anet or NCsoft or who ever makes the decisions is creating better content that the gamer actually wants or just easy filler to appease people cause they promised they would give us new stuff?

With about 1500 times logged I have seen them twice. In the Wintersday jumping puzzle (2 of them) and outside Super Adventure Box (1 afk). Both cases was on Northern Shiverpeaks.

Vayne.8563:

I don’t think it matters that much whether Anet plays the game or not, since to run into the problems most people run into, an Anet employee would have to play for hundreds if not thousands of hours. This isn’t reasonable.

And even if you play the game…no one says an Anet employee is going to play every aspect of the game.

How do you feel about Anet having a PTR?

Gasoline.2570:

Jeffrey Vaughn.1793:

And, no, our game accounts aren’t the same as GM accounts; we don’t get special items or anything like that.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Cant-infuse-accesories/first#post2092474

That’s not on the live servers.

Part of the problems in the first game stemmed from them playing too much.
…or I guess playing in their private comfort zones too much (a specific guild that won’t be mentioned here). …then again most of us are all guilty of that so not really sure where to draw the line in the sand on that one

Treeline.3865:

…. Both cases was on Northern Shiverpeaks.

well now that actually makes a lot of sense considering it has the same word in common with that prior guild… (props to NSP though, generally they seem a lot more competent overall than other servers I’ve tried playing with. Too bad their Gw1 drama & egos also carried over with them)

marnick.4305:

I would expect a required couple of hours live playtime per week in a company like A.net? Any comments on that?

Now that would be quite silly, don’t you think?
As far as I know no employer can actually force people to do something involving their company on their free time. And I would rather have them actually work on the game rather than playing it during working hours.

Fernling.1729:

Vayne.8563:

I don’t think it matters that much whether Anet plays the game or not, since to run into the problems most people run into, an Anet employee would have to play for hundreds if not thousands of hours. This isn’t reasonable.

And even if you play the game…no one says an Anet employee is going to play every aspect of the game.

How do you feel about Anet having a PTR?

I’d have no objection to it. The only problem I’ve had with PTRs in the past (most notably Rift) is that they don’t end up with enough people on them to really test content anyway and that it divides the player base. Every person on the PTR is one less person in the world…and people complain now about dead servers.

Everything has positives and negatives. I don’t think a PTR is a bad move…but it doesn’t come without its consequences.

lordkrall.7241:

marnick.4305:

I would expect a required couple of hours live playtime per week in a company like A.net? Any comments on that?

Now that would be quite silly, don’t you think?
As far as I know no employer can actually force people to do something involving their company on their free time. And I would rather have them actually work on the game rather than playing it during working hours.

I would expect people to work during their work hours. Guild Wars 2 is their job. As such, I expect Guild Wars 2 devs to play during work hours. I actually expect management to give everyone a time slot for doing so during work hours.

With our hardware I’ve programmed several fun things during work hours, simply to get experience with our product. That ranges from simple games to personal projects and even some embedded Guild Wars jokes. If I weren’t allowed to toy around with our own products, I couldn’t be a good employee. I’d expect the same from A.net employees.

Vayne.8563:

I don’t think it matters that much whether Anet plays the game or not, since to run into the problems most people run into, an Anet employee would have to play for hundreds if not thousands of hours. This isn’t reasonable.

And even if you play the game…no one says an Anet employee is going to play every aspect of the game.

What? I personally think that this game would be a lot better if they played their own game some more… And every aspect of it for that matter.

They could see with their own eyes the problems with it and experience the frustrations of the players themselves.

There is a reason companies like Jack Daniels have professional whiskey tasters whose job (I kid you not) is to drink whiskey all day and comment on the quality.

Bright.9160:

Vayne.8563:

I don’t think it matters that much whether Anet plays the game or not, since to run into the problems most people run into, an Anet employee would have to play for hundreds if not thousands of hours. This isn’t reasonable.

And even if you play the game…no one says an Anet employee is going to play every aspect of the game.

What? I personally think that this game would be a lot better if they played their own game some more… And every aspect of it for that matter.

They could see with their own eyes the problems with it and experience the frustrations of the players themselves.

There is a reason companies like Jack Daniels have professional whiskey tasters whose job (I kid you not) is to drink whiskey all day and comment on the quality.

The amount of time they’d have to play the game to have the same problems players do would be prohibitive to them working and playing.

Obvious and easy problems will be brought up by the QA team who plays the game constantly. It’s most of what they do. But the rest of the devs…the amount of time they could realistically devote would take them away from programming and bug fixing.

It’s not a great use of time.

Vayne.8563:

The amount of time they’d have to play the game to have the same problems players do would be prohibitive to them working and playing.

Obvious and easy problems will be brought up by the QA team who plays the game constantly. It’s most of what they do. But the rest of the devs…the amount of time they could realistically devote would take them away from programming and bug fixing.

It’s not a great use of time.

You know your company has a problem when the ‘head of the balance team’ streams a video of him promoting his PvE warrior that runs a Toughness/condition damage shout heal build with GS and Longbow, using Celestial trinkets and rune of Divinity.

Or when they stream a video of devs playing WvW and the guy in the POV is spamming a poison field on the gate they’re trying to take down.

What happened to the “X”, did your guild loose it bright?

Dub.1273:

What happened to the “X”, did your guild loose it bright?

Do you ever post relevant stuff in a thread, or is your sole purpose on this forum to derail everything you see?

Not that I mind derailing…

To answer your question: the guild started off in 2006 as Legion of Doom [LOD], then the leader got banned due to botting, so they made X Legion of Doom X [LOD], which later merged with Can’t Catch The Gingerbread Man [????], which was basically [GS] without some people. The name they came up with was Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD?]. That way we kept something of both guilds and with the name we reflected that both of them were a bunch of special kids.

We decided to start off as [LOD] again in GW2, because, I don’t know… Wasn’t my call.

Edit: lol, this forum can’t recognize the chinese symbols… The gingerbread man tag was basically [-==X] with the second = being 3 horizontal stripes and the X the special one.

Bright.9160:

Vayne.8563:

The amount of time they’d have to play the game to have the same problems players do would be prohibitive to them working and playing.

Obvious and easy problems will be brought up by the QA team who plays the game constantly. It’s most of what they do. But the rest of the devs…the amount of time they could realistically devote would take them away from programming and bug fixing.

It’s not a great use of time.

You know your company has a problem when the ‘head of the balance team’ streams a video of him promoting his PvE warrior that runs a Toughness/condition damage shout heal build with GS and Longbow, using Celestial trinkets and rune of Divinity.

Or when they stream a video of devs playing WvW and the guy in the POV is spamming a poison field on the gate they’re trying to take down.

Developers aren’t players and players aren’t developers. They actually take completely different sets of skills. Saying a developer doesn’t play the game well is sort of pointless.

It’s like editors who can’t write. Many editors because editors BECAUSE they can’t write. But that doesn’t mean they can’t edit.

Vayne.8563:

Developers aren’t players and players aren’t developers. They actually take completely different sets of skills. Saying a developer doesn’t play the game well is sort of pointless.

It’s like editors who can’t write. Many editors because editors BECAUSE they can’t write. But that doesn’t mean they can’t edit.

You are 100% wrong. It’s more equivalent to a car designer not getting in their new vehicle and testing it and understanding limitations and flaws. And then saying that it’s comfortable for everyone to drive, when they are 5’7" and many buyers are 6’0" or greater and find it extremely uncomfortable.

Vayne.8563:

Developers aren’t players and players aren’t developers. They actually take completely different sets of skills. Saying a developer doesn’t play the game well is sort of pointless.

It’s like editors who can’t write. Many editors because editors BECAUSE they can’t write. But that doesn’t mean they can’t edit.

You have a point with your editor analogy, but the fact that the person responsible for balancing the skills in the game is running a build I wouldn’t even call trash, because that would be insulting to trash around the world, is quite disturbing.

I’m not asking that every dev runs optimal builds and is amazing at the game, but I personally think that a balance dev would at least know how the classes work.. Because he obviously doesn’t have a clue.

That’s like having an editor that doesn’t know grammar and has dyslexia who just changes things at random, because he thinks the changes are correct.

Bright.9160:

Dub.1273:

What happened to the “X”, did your guild loose it bright?

Do you ever post relevant stuff in a thread, or is your sole purpose on this forum to derail everything you see?

I usually worry about getting more infractions or even a forum ban because everything i won’t be able to say anything good about people playing a condition/toughness guardian or wrongbow-spamming ranger.
Interesting story about your guild, when i started with gw1 it has already been “Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD?]”. I always liked pandas, though.

wolfie.7296:

Vayne.8563:

Developers aren’t players and players aren’t developers. They actually take completely different sets of skills. Saying a developer doesn’t play the game well is sort of pointless.

It’s like editors who can’t write. Many editors because editors BECAUSE they can’t write. But that doesn’t mean they can’t edit.

You are 100% wrong. It’s more equivalent to a car designer not getting in their new vehicle and testing it and understanding limitations and flaws. And then saying that it’s comfortable for everyone to drive, when they are 5’7" and many buyers are 6’0" or greater and find it extremely uncomfortable.

He’s wrong to the extent that a car designer doesn’t necessarily have to test drive faster than the legal speed limit. If the car is comfortable at 140km/h, it’s a comfortable car, even if the max speed is 220km/h.
If devs play like 90% of their players, they’re actually doing it right. But they should play.

Dub.1273:

Bright.9160:

Dub.1273:

What happened to the “X”, did your guild loose it bright?

Do you ever post relevant stuff in a thread, or is your sole purpose on this forum to derail everything you see?

I usually worry about getting more infractions or even a forum ban because everything i won’t be able to say anything good about people playing a condition/toughness guardian or wrongbow-spamming ranger.

Likewise, I’m not able to say good things about people who belittle others for using a build they personally find comfortable to use. Celestial set + divinity runes is a very comfortable set. Not the best, not extraordinarily good, but comfortable for most.

Ursan.7846:

pullnointer.1476:

they do not play the game. how do I know this? izzy uses divinity gear on his warrior.

Pretty sure you have to play the game if you’re to have a character you can use divinity gear on, to get all technical.

nah, he presses a button and it’s insta lvl80 max gear

marnick.4305:

He’s wrong to the extent that a car designer doesn’t necessarily have to test drive faster than the legal speed limit. If the car is comfortable at 140km/h, it’s a comfortable car, even if the max speed is 220km/h.
If devs play like 90% of their players, they’re actually doing it right. But they should play.

yes they do have to test it faster. handling is and should be a top priority. if a car exploded at a certain speed people should know.secondly you paid no attention to what i said about a person’s height. why you would ignore that and try and make a counter-point, idk.

Zero.6082:

Has anyone ever seen some one from anet actually play the game. Most of the time they talk about what is in the best interest of us or what they think would be more fun. But it seems to be going in the wrong direction cause everyone keeps complaining. I all most wonder if they even play there own game. I mean i wonder if they are satisfied with how it turned out.

Does everyone think that Anet or NCsoft or who ever makes the decisions is creating better content that the gamer actually wants or just easy filler to appease people cause they promised they would give us new stuff?

I’m sure they do.. I have seen them in game.