Guild Wars 2

For the sake of this discussion I am lumping WvW with PvP since a large majority of it deals with PvP.

What is everyone’s opinion of the downed state in this game? I love it in PvE content & I think it’s purpose is well preserved but not so much for any of the PvP content.

My main two arguments is I feel it is very annoying chasing around the downed players that you have already ""beaten"" just to finish them off.

Secondly unlike most PvP in MMOs I don’t get that satisfactory kill when I do take down a player. Staking someone with a flag in order to beat them is very unsatisfying as well as beating up a downed opponent.

I understand there are many who find it exciting that they can get their “second” chance especially in massive army vs army battles but I think in the end I would prefer seeing it removed in PvP content.

These are my opinions. What are yours?

As you’ve said, I think it fits PvE. I’m actually fine with it in WvW, even though 1v2s can be annoying. As for spvp, I really have no say in the matter since I don’t pvp in this game.

Pve – Fine.
WvW – I still like it.
SpvP – Is probably where people would hate it the most, but I have no say.

Edit. Just to expand, the TTK is so fast in zergs, it’s nice to get rallies.

Remove this from wvw and especially spvp. the faster its gone the better

its fine in spvp, remove from wvw.

Personally the downed state is a significant feature that differentiates gw2 to all those other games out there. It can be annoying but gives that extra line of defence and strategy

Just cap the rally to 5 people. Like every other ability in the game.

It should definitely remain in tpvp to maintain that extra competitive mechanic. I know it annoys the care bears farming spvp for rank points all day so they should have an option to remove it so everyone’s happy.

The mechanic is great and is just one of the things that helps good teams separate themselves from bad teams. If they decide to remove it from tpvp, than they might as well just add some more pets and passive effects so that there will be absolutely no difference in skill level between a rank 1 and a top tpvper.

my 2 cents.

Dendail.4896:

What is everyone’s opinion of the downed state in this game?

i think it is working as intended, and that everyone should accept it as it is.

My main two arguments is I feel it is very annoying chasing around the downed players that you have already ""beaten"" just to finish them off.

down but certainly not defeated, yet. please finish what you started.
if you cannot finish what you started, perhaps it is better that you do not start at all?

DJSkittles.7196:

If they decide to remove it from tpvp, than they might as well just add some more pets and passive effects so that there will be absolutely no difference in skill level between a rank 1 and a top tpvper.

my 2 cents.

That’s cute considering down-state is a passive effect and further serves to close the skill gap between players as it both lowers combat potency and rewards inferior play (rally/revive)!

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Dendail.4896:

My main two arguments is I feel it is very annoying chasing around the downed players that you have already ""beaten"" just to finish them off.

down but certainly not defeated, yet.

Everyone knows down-state isn’t the end combat…
The point is that Dendail feels it redundant to continue fighting handicapped players as they’re practically already beaten!

Also aiding to down-state not being the end of combat, means skill isn’t a determining factor of combat! Because it can’t afford equal viability for the downed player!
This belittles combat and undermines fun and fair play from both player perspectives.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

if you cannot finish what you started, perhaps it is better that you do not start at all?

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Great advice!
If the difficulty in defeating players is set too high due to a bias in the ratio between survivability and damage to net this result, run away and regroup and/or focus on other objectives ^^

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(FYI I know you meant not to play at all… terrible and arrogant opinion, in my opinion.)

Oh and before telling me things I already know (such as “he/she could still somehow rally/revive” – which I already addressed a negate for), how about you acknowledge differing points for a change!
You can start by replying to my thread:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Down-state-Evaluation/first

Also Dendail, this thread has a wealth of opinions regarding down-state which I think you might be interested in ^^