Guild Wars 2

So I noticed a huge drop when i salvage my exos, even with BLSK. It might be my bad luck days but did anyone else notice it?

EDIT 1: by huge drop I mean I get 0 ectos
EDIT 2: My results come from savlaging Crafted exotics (and lvl 75+ droppable with Berserker’s prefix, etc…) with Black Lion’s Salvage Kit. I haven’t done any salvaging rares so I can’t tell there, but with exotics I notice a bit of a difference.

I am also wondering this . I salvaged yesterday 21 rares and got 7 ectos. (i know RNG, but can someone with higer sample size say it’s all ok?)

Edit: I salvaged with Master’s.

i salvage 6 rares and got 0 ectos another stealth nerf?:| before u got alot .

oh ectos from rares? 35 17 ectos

Seemed normal for me yesterday, 0.8 ectos / rare, I salvaged around 40 rares.

I’ll check again tonight after wb reset.

Just a general PSA (not for OP) copper-fed was fixed and you shouldn’t use it with your rares.

guys, you only get ectos from rares that are level 68 and higher; stop salvaging AC rare armor and expecting ectos.

mystic don’t be ignorant. you can get it from lower it’s just extremely unlikely, also mine were all 80s

It is safe, no nerf………….

Ahem

John Smith.4610:

The ecto rate is fine.

I know someone pre patch that went thought 250 rares and only got 6 ecto. RNG is truely a tough mistress. Also it feels like there is diminishing returns on salvaging for ecto’s. I know personally if I salvage a bunch of blue and greens then salvage a rare I almost never get ecto vs if I salvage the rare first then go thought 15-20 blues and greens I get ecto 1-3 most the time.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Ahem

John Smith.4610:

The ecto rate is fine.

Yay for quoting a 5 months old post, you have solved the mystery of this thread.

Here’s your cookie: [cookie]

Alukah.2063:

Smooth Penguin.5294:

Ahem

John Smith.4610:

The ecto rate is fine.

Yay for quoting a 5 months old post, you have solved the mystery of this thread.

Here’s your cookie: [cookie]

Thanks for the cookie. It’s a good thing I saved that quote.

well I salvaged 10 rares the other day and got 0 ectos. I asked in map chat but no one knew. The drop rate seems to be worse and ectos have gone up marginally in value again. Market movements do say something.

I salvaged 4 rares and got 9 ectos yesterday- rng is rng

Personally I put melted cheese on my forehead and pray to Odin before I salvage items, they say that helps your chances at getting ectos.

Yesterday I salvaged a green and got an ecto. Jealous?

Q; Ecto drop rate nefred?

A; No.

Conclusion; RNG is gonna RNG.

Noticed the same thing, even before the last patch, I guess it is like this since the 26th Nov patch.
I just didn’t posted here before because it’s pointless anyway…

Start a pool. One time it did turn out that there was an accidental nerf. It took a while to pin it down though. People need to start posting their drop ratios to make as large a pool as possible to see if there’s an issue.

I’m gonna call it bad luck as well, today I got even more than the average.

I had really bad luck with ectos in previous weeks it seemed to improve recently though, i get more than usual.

They had a bug with the tonic recipes, they had a bug with charged quartz in winterboxes (assuming that was a bug), the Copper-Fed Salvage-o-Matic was white quality then rare quality then white quality again.
But salvage rate RNG must be ok.

Remember when uni dye drop rate was insanely high? Good times.

BlueZone.4236:

They had a bug with the tonic recipes, they had a bug with charged quartz in winterboxes (assuming that was a bug), the Copper-Fed Salvage-o-Matic was white quality then rare quality then white quality again.
But salvage rate RNG must be ok.

Testing for bugs in salvage rates takes more than a handful of samples.

You’ll need to compile a few hundred salvages just to start to see a realistic number. Make it a few thousand to eliminate the margin of error.

A random guy salvaging 20 items is not data.

Sablin.8071:

well I salvaged 10 rares the other day and got 0 ectos. I asked in map chat but no one knew. The drop rate seems to be worse and ectos have gone up marginally in value again. Market movements do say something.

They don’t mean much when more than one variable has changed. The introduction of ascended armor and people crafting skills to 500 is why ecto prices are rising on TP, not because of a nonexistent ecto nerf.

I have been getting a lot less ectos this past week. Many unnecessary major runes and sigils though…

I just went through 13 rares and got 4 ectos…

Same here. It dropped off significantly after the November 26 update. This happened before and it took Anet a long time to even look into it and then even longer to say that it was an unintended change way back after an update. Then It took them even longer to fix the problem.

No.

Salvaged 15 rares yesterday with BLSK and got 19 ectos.

i recently salvaged 10 rares, and only 2 of them dropped ectos, and both of those two only dropped 1 ecto each. so yeah, i’d say it might have been nerfed. NOTE: used Black Lion Salvage Kit

This is just RNG. I salvaged 2 rares this morning and got 5 ectos. Yesterday I salvaged 2 and got none. I believe over all I’m still about 1:1. No one says it’s fun. It just is what it is. I do find the BL salvage kits do somewhat better (maybe?) than the mystic salvage kits, but I don’t pay THAT much attention.

RNG may be RNG. But RNG is also most certainly horrible game design.

And John Smith has most certainly been a pox on the fun of this game.

Just finished salvaging 4 rares with a BL kit and got 8 ectos which is a little above my normal of 5 for 4 lv80 rares.

Salvage 86 and got 74 ectos. I tad low but close to normal. However during this I did get a run of 6 misses which led to only 2 ectos out of the first 10 rares I salvaged. It then got better. Also the rate in general of no ectos was noticeably higher than previously. I had seen a 33-35% chance of 0 ectos since I started recording ecto number per salvage but this batch was 43%.

sbr.8170:

Sablin.8071:

well I salvaged 10 rares the other day and got 0 ectos. I asked in map chat but no one knew. The drop rate seems to be worse and ectos have gone up marginally in value again. Market movements do say something.

They don’t mean much when more than one variable has changed. The introduction of ascended armor and people crafting skills to 500 is why ecto prices are rising on TP, not because of a nonexistent ecto nerf.

But you cant confirm there has been a nerf intentionally or not can you? Ascended armor is certainly a factor but ive noticed the ecto price increase going up gradually before ascended armor could be crafted, and im not just talking about the week before.

Over 100 rares salvaged now, still see no nerf.

If you salvage less than 10 don’t be surprised if you happen to not get favorable results, its hard to call it a bug with such low sample.

Are you all using master/mystic salvage kit?

Each time I do a slew, I check to see if I’m above or below 0.9 ectos per. I did 20 with Mystic and got 14 ecto. Since then, I’ve been measuring the rate for each batch to see if it evens out, but every one has been under 0.9.

Guildies have been noticing it independently and asking if others have noticed a terrible ecto rate lately. I haven’t heard anyone say that in many months.

It doesn’t prove anything, but neither does saying “rng is rng” or “these threads happen all the time”.

the same was here. salvaging rares and no ecto. i dont like this ninja modifications

Just salvaged 120 rares last night, got 116 ectos. I don’t experiment any anomalies.

It’s just RNG. I had a really bad streak a few days ago, but it’s back to normal now.

I think it’s also noteworthy that the gap between prices I can sell my rares at and the price I can sell ectos at has gotten larger. It used to be a very close percentage, where it wasn’t any better to salvage than to sell. But lately rares are selling for 31s and ectos at 39.

There’s something telling about that, but what it is telling is up for discussion.

We get these kind of threads every patch…Salvage no less than 1000 rares, then you have a bare minimum sample size, 10 is not enough.

Well they’re not announcing scientific findings, so they don’t need any sample size. They’re asking what other people have found. To see if people with a large sample size could post and show results.

I sell ALL rares now.

Rate of yielding Ectos from salvaging Rares may have gone down for multiple reasons:

1. Increased availability of rares
2. Increase in number of players salvaging
3. Number of ectos being produced every hour.

The yield rate of Ecto must have been tied to all these thing to control the market. So, any change in any of these variables will have an impact on the salvaging yield.

Ya, judging by the rate I’m getting from Mystic kits in the last couple weeks, I think I’d rather sell all rares. Maybe I’ve just had a bad streak now like others but it’s pretty bad. I used to do world boss train and come away with 25 ectos. Now it’s more like 15. At least for every rare I sell I can buy 1 ecto, guaranteed And since the rate with mystic kit is less than 1:1, that makes more sense.

PVStar.3658:

Personally I put melted cheese on my forehead and pray to Odin before I salvage items, they say that helps your chances at getting ectos.

I’m going to have to start doing that. Which cheese is considered the most efficacious? Can I substitute a god from another mythos? I’ve always been more partial to Zeus.

Sometimes you get a bad streak. I did 97 a day or two ago and got only 64 Higher than normal misses, lower than normal doubles/triples but pretty spot on for singles.

PVStar.3658:

Personally I put melted cheese on my forehead and pray to Odin before I salvage items, they say that helps your chances at getting ectos.

Best post I’ve seen in the forums this week. Thank you

I think CRAFTED exotics got a bit nerfed when it comes to Ectos. Surely seems like it (And by Crafted I also mean droppable lvl 75+ with Berserker, etc.. prefix on)