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I’m using the BLSK for ectos and normally I would have around 1 salv : 1.3-1.5 ectos. But now I’m getting 1:0.5… And looking at the ecto price the last few days, it seems I’m not the only one. Anyone knows something about this… stealth nerf… or did I just miss something?

BLK seem useless nowadays, it feels like they don’t give as many as they used to. I used to always get at least one in the several stacks of BLK I’ve used in the past. Now I get 0 so often that I stopped using them.

Noticed this also. Nice work Anet.

i dunno about you but i got 10 ectos salvaging 4 items lol .

maybe MF affects it as i ate a Omnomberry bar before salvaging

Ecto rate has always been .95 for rares, if you were getting more than that the RNG gods were smiling upon you.

Seems pretty random to me. Best run was 7 in a row with 1 or 2 ectos, worst was 6 in a row with zero.

I salvaged several hundred rares over the weekend using only BLK. Not only was the ecto rate averaging <1 per, probably 10% of the salvages using BLK didn’t produce anything. I thought I would at least get some type of crafting material.

I would test it with full MF gear on…. that seems to be a difference, i refuse to wear my MF gear in grps anymore but i swap it on when i decide to do some savaging of rares/exotics.

Don’t use MF at all and it’s been the same for me.

Rezzet.3614:

i dunno about you but i got 10 ectos salvaging 4 items lol .

maybe MF affects it as i ate a Omnomberry bar before salvaging

No, I have around 155% MF all the time… doubt it that it’s related to it.

Maybe the fortune lady’s gone to someone else. I used to get 3 ectos out of 1 salv more often than I’d get 1 out of it. And I got more often 1 out of it, than 0. Also, I rarely get 2 out of 1 salv. Done like 250 salvs with BLSK already, and I think I got like 3 or 4 times 2 ectos xD

I was really lucky yesterday, salvaged 2 rares with BLSK and ended up with 5 ectos (3 and 2).

I was kicking myself thinking I should have been doing this all along – am in the middle of Legendary quest and will need a ton of them. Now I’m wondering if it’s more productive to sell rares that sell for equal to or more than ecto price, and then buy ectos, or salvage the rares hoping for an average of >1 ecto net.

I find it hilarious that we always get these kinds of posts after someone gets 0 ectos after a few salvages.

No, there was no stealth nerf. Some days you win, some days you lose.

My rate on mystic salvage kits have been around .70.

What you can do about this, is selling your rare and buy 1 ecto back when you sell the rare

There has been gospel truth from Anet directly that MF only affects what loot is on a corpse when it is killed.

I just don’t understand why A-net doesn’t make it so salvaging 70+ rares just yeild 1 ecto, no RNG involved. We currently have a RNG to FIND rare/mats to make them, then a RNG to salvage ectos. Seriously why is there a need for RNG on everything. There’s even a RNG for being able to hit targets 1 meter from you using bows.

My ecto rates have been higher than normal. It used to be dreadful. Lady luck has smiled on me this week!

I got 7 ecto on 3 rares with a master kit.

It’s all random. Nothing was changed. Except perhaps your luck. Find a rabbits foot.

I have read on here multiple times that the return percent for salvaging rares with Mystic salvage kit is 0.9 ecto/rare – tested by people who did like 10,000 salvages
I just salvaged 140 level 68+ rares with MSK and got 113 ecto (0.8 ecto/rare).
The next 6 salvages would all have to yield 3 ectos to bring that average up to 0.9. based on that, this isn’t a half-bad estimation of the current rate. So, some time in recent history they did do a stealth nerf.

edit: people, please stop thinking 1-10 salvages gives you even a hint of the return rate. 100 is around the lowest I would even consider useful.

For these values to be accurate, the sample size needs to be more than just a few hundred or thousand. Maybe 100,000s and that might lend a bit more weight.

yeah especially from rares, it seems the salvage rate has changed, may be thats guy the ectos went up in the tp

Each rare gives you a possible 3 the mystic kit has a 25% recovery rate, on average this should give you 3 ecto’s for 4 salvaged rares. Black lion kit has 50% recovery, which should give you 1.5 ecto’s per rare.
Magic find should not affect salvaging according to the wiki.

I’m not exactly keeping track, but it’s rare I salvage a yellow that doesn’t give me at least 1 ecto. I’d put my average around 1.5-2.

Grassrab.9302:

Each rare gives you a possible 3 the mystic kit has a 25% recovery rate, on average this should give you 3 ecto’s for 4 salvaged rares. Black lion kit has 50% recovery, which should give you 1.5 ecto’s per rare.
Magic find should not affect salvaging according to the wiki.

Your math seems to assume the probability of getting 1, 2, or 3 ecto to be the same. Can you site a source for this information or is it a guess/assumption?

I’ve noticed this as well, but I thought it was just my luck. Maybe we (or you guys :p) should horde rares and test this?

Vol.5241:

I find it hilarious that we always get these kinds of posts after someone gets 0 ectos after a few salvages.

No, there was no stealth nerf. Some days you win, some days you lose.

No, I was just wondering, because the ecto price got up pretty fast. And also the price on rare lvl 70-80s has gone up big time.

It makes since for prices to go up across the board if more & more bots are being banned. Less accounts out there providing the mats for a high demanded item will raise the price of what is left.

But as Colin said, no nerf. You just had some bad luck on salvages.
If everything worked out like everyone wanted in the world, we would all be ga-gillionaires.

Colin will have to get used to this, I think after every patch of Everquest over the last 12 years someone will come to the forums and compain that Spirit of the Wolf or that some favorite thing of thiers was secretly nurfed or that bards were broken again….

ok the bards Were broken again but that is besides the point!

Ony deep breathes more now too.

Salvaged 5 rares and got 10 ectos few days ago. The trial before that was slightly worse. I assume it is working as intended.

You can still get some money of an exotic by selling its sigil. Some of them can be sold for fair few Gs.

Each week we get a new topic here claiming that in the previous week the drop rate of ectos was much better. The fact we continue to get the same topic over and over, always claiming that one week before everything was great, is a nice proof of how ArenaNet should not listen to the forum when seeking game feedback.

As Colin Johanson stated above, ecto salvage rate haven’t changed. I’ve noticed peaks and lulls in my salvage rates too but it’s nothing to be overly concerned about. I’d imagine the ecto prices are going up because more and more people are crafting/upgrading the new back pieces which take 250 a pop for some of them.

ColinJohanson.2394:

Nothing about ecto drop rates has changed what so ever, we’d make sure to call this out if it was changed.

Why has the price of ectos gone up by like 20% in the past week?

Something’s gotta be at fault here… Did you nerf rare drop rates or something?

I haven’t noticed a difference in the rate I get good salvages, but I’ve noticed a MARKED decrease in the number of rares I get out of fractals, which has led to many fewer ectos piling up in my bank over the last week.

Out of about a dozen fractal runs in the past week, I’ve managed only 20 ectos because the rare drop rate seems to have decreased.

Of course it could just be my imagination or bad luck. Just a theory.

Hickeroar.9734:

ColinJohanson.2394:

Nothing about ecto drop rates has changed what so ever, we’d make sure to call this out if it was changed.

Why has the price of ectos gone up by like 20% in the past week?

Something’s gotta be at fault here… Did you nerf rare drop rates or something?

I haven’t noticed a difference in the rate I get good salvages, but I’ve noticed a MARKED decrease in the number of rares I get out of fractals, which has led to many fewer ectos piling up in my bank over the last week.

Out of about a dozen fractal runs in the past week, I’ve managed only 20 ectos because the rare drop rate seems to have decreased.

Of course it could just be my imagination or bad luck. Just a theory.

There was a massive bot ban wave last week. This is why T6 prices have jumped up in some cases to 100% and more.

Hickeroar.9734:

Why has the price of ectos gone up by like 20% in the past week?

Something’s gotta be at fault here… Did you nerf rare drop rates or something?

And this is why it’s a waste to have developers posting in the forum. The game director has just posted claiming drop rates were not nerfed, then someone quotes him asking if drop rates were nerfed. Definitely this is the kind of thing worth having developers stopping their work improving the game.

The price of ectos is going back to what it was before the snowflake exploit, in which a lot of people exploited a cheap and easy way to make ectos.

Vol.5241:

Hickeroar.9734:

ColinJohanson.2394:

Nothing about ecto drop rates has changed what so ever, we’d make sure to call this out if it was changed.

Why has the price of ectos gone up by like 20% in the past week?

Something’s gotta be at fault here… Did you nerf rare drop rates or something?

I haven’t noticed a difference in the rate I get good salvages, but I’ve noticed a MARKED decrease in the number of rares I get out of fractals, which has led to many fewer ectos piling up in my bank over the last week.

Out of about a dozen fractal runs in the past week, I’ve managed only 20 ectos because the rare drop rate seems to have decreased.

Of course it could just be my imagination or bad luck. Just a theory.

There was a massive bot ban wave last week. This is why T6 prices have jumped up in some cases to 100% and more.

Ah, I didn’t hear about that. In that case I’m gonna write off my rare drop rate decrease to bad luck and imagination.

Erasculio.2914:

Hickeroar.9734:

Why has the price of ectos gone up by like 20% in the past week?

Something’s gotta be at fault here… Did you nerf rare drop rates or something?

And this is why it’s a waste to have developers posting in the forum. The game director has just posted claiming drop rates were not nerfed, then someone quotes him asking if drop rates were nerfed.

He said ecto drop rates were not nerfed. I was talking about RARES.

Also, if you bothered to read what I ASKED, you’d see that I asked why the ecto price has increased by 20%. I didn’t ask if they were nerfed.

Erasculio.2914:

Hickeroar.9734:

Erasculio.2914:

Hickeroar.9734:

Why has the price of ectos gone up by like 20% in the past week?

Something’s gotta be at fault here… Did you nerf rare drop rates or something?

And this is why it’s a waste to have developers posting in the forum. The game director has just posted claiming drop rates were not nerfed, then someone quotes him asking if drop rates were nerfed.

He said ecto drop rates were not nerfed. I was talking about RARES.

Zzzzzz… A nerf in the drop rate of rares and exotics, which are the only source of ectos, means a nerf in the drop rate of ectos. Reading comprehension is a great thing.

Yeah, and thinking of reading comprehension, if you had bothered to actually READ my post, you would have seen that I didn’t ask if they had been nerfed. I asked why ecto prices had increased dramatically….

Hickeroar.9734:

you would have seen that I didn’t ask if they had been nerfed.

No?

Hickeroar.9734:

Something’s gotta be at fault here… Did you nerf rare drop rates or something?

Again, reading comprehension is a great thing.

I dont think it has been nerfed, i seem to get more ecto with BL kit then Mystic or master..

Random crap is random. :/

Notice that nobody ever posts that after 1000 salvages, they think there is a problem?

It’s always after 5-10…

It’s random. Sometimes you get less, some more.

If it was for me I’d have made Ectos and Obsidians back to where they belong, aka random drops in FoW and UW.
They used to be the endgame materials… Back then when you looted an ecto you were happy because it was worth a lot and rare, now it’s everyday stuff.

Drops been fine for me.

I can confirm that this is just random, there are days that I get 0-1 ecto everytime, and others that I get almost always 2-3 ectos.

The reason ecto got so cheap was the snowflake exploit that flooded the market with ill produced ecto. Even if the ecto didnt all make it to the tp directly some of it fulfilled otherwise unfulfilled demand. What we are seeing now is the price slowly returning to equalibrium.

Equalibrium is about 33-34 silver. There was a point in time it spiked above that but then legit ecto producting methods became known and supply in ecto spiked. depressing the market for a bit. then the snowflake exploit hit which dropped the price of an ecto down to 24 silver. Right now our buy order/sell order rates are about equal to what they were before.

ColinJohanson.2394:

Nothing about ecto drop rates has changed what so ever, we’d make sure to call this out if it was changed.

The double RNG of finding a rare item only to get nothing out of it is really poor design. One lair of RNG…finding the actual rare…should be enough to ensure at least one Ectoplasm.

I’d much rather have rares give at least 1 Ecto 100% of the time than having a 10% chance to get 3 as well as a 20% chance to get nothing.

Could it be Account issues, Ive noticed my drop rates in game and in salvage are abysmal, 6 Rares 4 gave nothing 1 gave one Ecto another gave 2 Ecto, thats pretty poor.

i also have found i get nothing much in open world. Another fact i’ve played the game nearly 1500 hours and i’ve yet to ever see a Lodestone of any type what so ever drop, never even seen one drop….

Akiko.2364:

Colin will have to get used to this, I think after every patch of Everquest over the last 12 years someone will come to the forums and compain that Spirit of the Wolf or that some favorite thing of thiers was secretly nurfed or that bards were broken again….

ok the bards Were broken again but that is besides the point!

So so true. To this day I still confuse some of my guild by referring to swiftness as SoW.

Kincaidia.3192:

There has been gospel truth from Anet directly that MF only affects what loot is on a corpse when it is killed.

Source please. im looking around for it.. i’ll post my source if i find it before i get a response.

thanks

Meowwilson.5106:

Kincaidia.3192:

There has been gospel truth from Anet directly that MF only affects what loot is on a corpse when it is killed.

Source please. im looking around for it.. i’ll post my source if i find it before i get a response.

thanks

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Magic-Find-Chests/597487