Guild Wars 2

I was playing Warhammer Age of Reckoning / WAR in between GW1 and GW2. So…….What is this wow every1 is talking about?

“Seriously go back to WOW.”

A GREAT WAY to advertise GW 2..

“Guild Wars 2, Seriously just go back to World of Warcraft!”

GW2 will die out like Diablo 3 did cause of the direction they took. There’s no motivation to keep on trying to get new stuff cause it doesn’t matter. Which is what GW2 is, nothing your character has matters to anyone.

@ Szar

So you are saying that once you clear all the maps, you can never go back? Of course not, that would be repeating.

Far better to hang around Cursed Shore and endlessly farm Shelter and Penitent.

As far as rewards? Define a good reward. I mean other than just knowing that you’ve accomplished it. Which, one might argue is far more real than some digital goodie.

@Pilusilm

While you analysis of why D3 has not been a smashing success (sales numbers not withstanding), it does not apply to GW2.

GW2 is not a hack and slash loot quest. Nor is it a gear treadmill, so comparisons to other gear treadmill games are not accurate.

TrickSmartly.7391:

My previous post was a little, teensy bit too abstract for most of you so allow me to explicate my feelings on the op’s post.

It’s dung. Endgame is not some whimsical abstraction that you make on your own. Endgame is not a make your own adventure novel nor is it a bologna sandwich.

Maybe no one defined it for you before so I will. Endgame is progression of your character at or near max level. It’s not subjective. It’s concrete. Anything not adhering to the parameters outlined is not endgame. Leveling is not endgame. Playing dress up is not endgame. Sitting on the bus is not endgame. And gw2 has a lack of endgame.

So find a game that has your definition of “endgame.”

And make no mistake…that is only your definition of “endgame,” not everybody else’s.

Diablo 3 died because blizzard killed it.
First they nerfed IAS (increased attack speed hard). …OK it needed done thats fine.

They forced you to play online.
Then they limited the number of instances of games that you could start.
Then they gave rare and elites enrage timers.
Then they gave rare and elites heal back to full health when out of combat.
They effectivly eliminated drops from chests/breakable items.
They made it virtually impossible to farm for gold and/or items in a game that is ALL about farming for gold/items.
And the number 1 thing that killed D3….Real money auction house.

They have added in a lot of nice features since 1.03 but the game is already dead and NO ONE Cares.

Torchlight 2 is everything that diablo 3 should have been.
Dungeon Defenders is closer to what Diablo 3 should have been.

GW2 is not doing to die out anytime soon.
WvW is amazing.
SPvP is amazing.
The PVE questing and dynamic events and exploration are supurb.
The dungeons are a lot of fun to play.

And sorry. But ALL of the US servers are either HIGH or FULL during prime time.

When the devs have created lackluster PvP “sPvP” or whatever they want to call it then yes they are responsible for what they’ve created.

Where the hell is Guild vs Guild? This is GUILD WARS. TDM needs to be implemented asap and other game modes such as Capture the Leader or CTF. How about Party vs Party in the open environment. WvW is a zerg fest injected with “PvE” elements that I want no part of.

For a name like “GUILD WARS” they left out much of the GUILD and the WARS.

I think many share the same view that we just can’t comprehend 1) Why conquest was the first type to make it at launch for sPvP and 2, instead of wasting time creating new PvE content, this game’s PvP needs major work like soon to hold anyone’s interest. No one bought GW1 for the “PvE” and same goes for GW2, PvP is supposed to be the bread and butter here and it’s pretty dire at the moment.

There’s no such thing as good “end game” in theme park games. For good real “end game” you need sandbox games such as Ultima Online, DarkFall, Mortal Online ect. Unfortunately these are dated or managed by some indie company. There hasn’t been a big budget company competent enough to take on a sandbox game yet, perhaps there’s no money in it although I don’t see how that’s possible.

Echo.7634:

And sorry. But ALL of the US servers are either HIGH or FULL during prime time.

For now.

So i hit level 80 and i have crafted all my gear not knowing that it was = to all the karma gear haha so now im at a loss of wtf i am doing playing this game with nothing to do. I mean i can farm mats to make gear but what for to sell so i can make gold but then again what do i need gold for if i have all my gear. Where is the endgame content I love tis game sooo fun to play but once you hit 80 might as well start another toon right away there is no raids haha man please add some end game content for the level 80’s.
Unfortunately i don’t think i would be able to play this game as im not a collector nor a farmer i like raids and dungeons and there is a lack of this in this game. I really really really don’t want to go back to WoW.

Gaboon.7389:

I really really really don’t want to go back to WoW.

I was so bored that I went back to GW1 last night.

Pilusilm.5682:

Echo.7634:

And sorry. But ALL of the US servers are either HIGH or FULL during prime time.

For now.

Funny, I thought those numbers only stay like that due to how server transfers work and that the “status” is only a placeholder for how many accounts reside there.

IE: Status means next to nothing.

Gaboon.7389:

So i hit level 80 and i have crafted all my gear not knowing that it was = to all the karma gear haha so now im at a loss of wtf i am doing playing this game with nothing to do. I mean i can farm mats to make gear but what for to sell so i can make gold but then again what do i need gold for if i have all my gear. Where is the endgame content I love tis game sooo fun to play but once you hit 80 might as well start another toon right away there is no raids haha man please add some end game content for the level 80’s.
Unfortunately i don’t think i would be able to play this game as im not a collector nor a farmer i like raids and dungeons and there is a lack of this in this game. I really really really don’t want to go back to WoW.

Just wait for a roleplaying fanboy to tell you how you’re delusional and GW2 isn’t about this or that. Yet they fail to see the lack of stuff to do at level 80.

AlexanderFaust.4518:

Pilusilm.5682:

Echo.7634:

And sorry. But ALL of the US servers are either HIGH or FULL during prime time.

For now.

Funny, I thought those numbers only stay like that due to how server transfers work and that the “status” is only a placeholder for how many accounts reside there.

IE: Status means next to nothing.

IF it were only a placeholder for the number of accounts residing there then the status would never change. The full servers would always remain full and that is simply not the case.

Ah, there it is again…that oh-so mature term “fanboy” thrown at anybody who dares to disagree with you.

Good lord, grow up already.

miracle.4216:

. ………Where the hell is Guild vs Guild? This is GUILD WARS. TDM needs to be implemented asap and other game modes such as Capture the Leader or CTF. How about Party vs Party in the open environment. WvW is a zerg fest injected with “PvE” elements that I want no part of.

For a name like “GUILD WARS” they left out much of the GUILD and the WARS. …….

My thought exactly. And have you noticed how they actually eliminated the word war from the pvp content? Now they are constantly using phrase eSport. /facepalm hard and smah the keybord with my head

I mean I respect all kinds of sports, but I’m here to smash some head and spill some blood of the enemy fighter…..ups sorry I meant to say I’m here to score points and win over the opposite team in a fair sports match. /facepalm again.

Read my sig and consider it again Anet. War matters.

The final point in all of these threads is going to remain that PvP in Guild Wars 2 is beyond crap at the moment. It’s frustrating how anyone could have told ANet staff, “Stop right there, this conquest mode in sPvP is just garbage.” Why did they bother initiating that route to begin with?

No one here has an issue with the graphics, game is beautiful. Obviously there’s a BIG issue with gameplay and ANet needs to start looking at their staff management/team of PvP and see if any cuts need to be made.

For everyone else, if your driving motivation to click on the GW2 icon on your desktop daily is to log on and run around aimlessly for hours on end in tonic form, good for you.

Reclusiarh.2674:

miracle.4216:

. ………Where the hell is Guild vs Guild? This is GUILD WARS. TDM needs to be implemented asap and other game modes such as Capture the Leader or CTF. How about Party vs Party in the open environment. WvW is a zerg fest injected with “PvE” elements that I want no part of.

For a name like “GUILD WARS” they left out much of the GUILD and the WARS. …….

My thought exactly. And have you noticed how they actually eliminated the word war from the pvp content? Now they are constantly using phrase eSport. /facepalm hard and smah the keybord with my head

I mean I respect all kinds of sports, but I’m here to smash some head and spill some blood of the enemy fighter…..ups sorry I meant to say I’m here to score points and win over the opposite team in a fair sports match. /facepalm again.

Read my sig and consider it again Anet. War matters.

Totally agree, don’t even get me started I’m biting my tongue as it is.

Shootsfoot.9276:

Ah, there it is again…that oh-so mature term “fanboy” thrown at anybody who dares to disagree with you.

Good lord, grow up already.

Fanboy thing is aimed at the people who say that gw2 is supergreat and is awesome in every single possible way aka 80% of the people on the forum.

Echo.7634:

AlexanderFaust.4518:

Pilusilm.5682:

Echo.7634:

And sorry. But ALL of the US servers are either HIGH or FULL during prime time.

For now.

Funny, I thought those numbers only stay like that due to how server transfers work and that the “status” is only a placeholder for how many accounts reside there.

IE: Status means next to nothing.

IF it were only a placeholder for the number of accounts residing there then the status would never change. The full servers would always remain full and that is simply not the case.

Why wouldn’t they change?.. people can shift from one server to another, every 24 hours.. spaces open up all the time, thus servers will always flux from “high to full”.

IE: The status wont go below a certain threshold (high) due to many reasons, one of which.. being that people that’ve quit are still on those servers and being accounted for.

So explain to me how the “status” actually matters

AlexanderFaust.4518:

Echo.7634:

AlexanderFaust.4518:

Pilusilm.5682:

Echo.7634:

And sorry. But ALL of the US servers are either HIGH or FULL during prime time.

For now.

Funny, I thought those numbers only stay like that due to how server transfers work and that the “status” is only a placeholder for how many accounts reside there.

IE: Status means next to nothing.

IF it were only a placeholder for the number of accounts residing there then the status would never change. The full servers would always remain full and that is simply not the case.

Why wouldn’t they change?.. people can shift from one server to another, every 24 hours.. spaces open up all the time, thus servers will always flux from “high to full”.

IE: The status wont go below a certain threshold (high) due to many reasons, one of which.. being that people that’ve quit are still on those servers and being accounted for.

So explain to me how the “status” actually matters

but but but ;_;
Or should I say “bot bot bot” ?

Pilusilm.5682:

AlexanderFaust.4518:

Echo.7634:

AlexanderFaust.4518:

Pilusilm.5682:

Echo.7634:

And sorry. But ALL of the US servers are either HIGH or FULL during prime time.

For now.

Funny, I thought those numbers only stay like that due to how server transfers work and that the “status” is only a placeholder for how many accounts reside there.

IE: Status means next to nothing.

IF it were only a placeholder for the number of accounts residing there then the status would never change. The full servers would always remain full and that is simply not the case.

Why wouldn’t they change?.. people can shift from one server to another, every 24 hours.. spaces open up all the time, thus servers will always flux from “high to full”.

IE: The status wont go below a certain threshold (high) due to many reasons, one of which.. being that people that’ve quit are still on those servers and being accounted for.

So explain to me how the “status” actually matters

but but but ;_;
Or should I say “bot bot bot” ?

haha.. +1 for the lol

Pilusilm.5682:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Ah, there it is again…that oh-so mature term “fanboy” thrown at anybody who dares to disagree with you.

Good lord, grow up already.

Fanboy thing is aimed at the people who say that gw2 is supergreat and is awesome in every single possible way aka 80% of the people on the forum.

Not exactly. We just like a good game, and this happens to be a good game for many of us. It has nothing to do with being a fan of anything in particular.

Auesis.7301:

It’s like the concept of “fun” went out the window years ago, and instead players feel forced to follow a metaphorical carrot for the rest of their days.

Pretty much, just looking at the replies here. People seem to think that because GW2 doesn’t have “Grind/Raid = End game” ~ that instead, it has “Fun”.

Almost like those two can’t exist in the same universe/game.

Sure, you can say “You don’t enjoy grinding” ~ but some people do, hell.. just look at all those people grinding for GW2 legendaries and saying “it’s fun”.

At the end of the day, fun is not only subjective.. but also falls victim to the masses ~ in that an MMO requires a community to think it’s “fun” in order to be successful.

Brainwashed or not.. WoW is touted to be “fun” as an MMO.

Personally, GW2 is also “fun” in it’s own right.. but only because you can approach it as a console action/adventure game w/online co-op, instead of an MMO.

Raf.1078:

@ Szar

So you are saying that once you clear all the maps, you can never go back? Of course not, that would be repeating.

Far better to hang around Cursed Shore and endlessly farm Shelter and Penitent.

As far as rewards? Define a good reward. I mean other than just knowing that you’ve accomplished it. Which, one might argue is far more real than some digital goodie.

what is there to do in a zone you’ve cleared. Redo hearts for no reward? wait for De’s to trigger? jumping puzzle? Remember none of these things scale up to 80. Sure there is miles of worthless content to not fell rewarded doing, again.

Pilusilm.5682:

Shootsfoot.9276:

Ah, there it is again…that oh-so mature term “fanboy” thrown at anybody who dares to disagree with you.

Good lord, grow up already.

Fanboy thing is aimed at the people who say that gw2 is supergreat and is awesome in every single possible way aka 80% of the people on the forum.

I just don’t understand why you are spending so much time and effort in the forums of a game you obviously despise. You have nothing good to say on here, and anybody who dares disagree with your self-important views is instantly labeled a “fanboy.”

It’s as if it’s some sort of obsession with you or something.

You’d probably be a much happier person if you spent the time you do on here looking for a game you actually like.

Shootsfoot.9276:

Ah, there it is again…that oh-so mature term “fanboy” thrown at anybody who dares to disagree with you.

Good lord, grow up already.

Yeah, it is almost as clever and original as “Go back to WoW”……..

The endgame here is unfinished. WvW is broken since I can’t see every player in front of me. PvP is boring since its the same concept over and over again. A slight change in the map doesn’t hide that the objectives are exactly the same.

Going back to revisit lower lvl zones you missed sounded AWESOME in concept, until I did it. The problem is its too easy at that point and there are no rewards. Part of the fun was the discovery and rewards for that discovery. When its all so easy its just boring and far more fun on a new character. I don’t need skill points…they’re worthless now. Vistas are OK, but only for the map completion, but then the rewards for map completion are mostly useless. You don’t gather enough coin for it to make a difference. Theres karma but its at a reduced rate compared to Cursed Shore and you need A LOT of it. Weeks of just grinding for hours each day…no thanks.

Part of the joy in an RPG is lvling up. Take it away and all motivation is gone. I honestly think that levels in this game should’ve been removed completely. They serve no real purpose. Zones should’ve just been designed to be harder and harder with better rewards in the riskier areas and less skill points, forcing people to clear out the whole map to earn every skill. Traits should’ve just been bought with coin.

There is very little motivation to do a dungeon 40 times for a new graphic and slightly better stats that only really benefit you in WvW…but thats completely broken.

To me, the end game is like the 2nd part of the game that determines what you do with your powered up character. Yea you can call leveling up endgame if you want, but that’s really just cheesy if you think about it.

I think leveling is like salad, and endgame is like the main course. Of course most people might tell me that i was doing endgame while leveling but…

I think as long as anet keeps doing content updates, then the game can stay fresh and interesting. Since everyone who has lots of time on their hands like me, will get bored quickly.