Guild Wars 2

Fix this in LS please. Been that way since S2 started.

Works for me. Try reinstalling.

Bear on the job.6273:

Works for me. Try reinstalling.

No. They don’t work for you. They don’t work for anyone. On kill sigils, traits and food do not work in LS (with I believe only one exception – they worked underground maze in S2 EP7?).

They work on anything that gives experience and nothing that does not give experience on kill. LS is not the problem here.

Hayashi.3416:

They work on anything that gives experience and nothing that does not give experience on kill. LS is not the problem here.

Yeah, exactly. It’s not a LS thing, it’s simply based on whether the target is worth experience.

Hayashi.3416:

They work on anything that gives experience and nothing that does not give experience on kill. LS is not the problem here.

You are correct – the problem is a mental infarction that occurred in the decision making and/or coding of the LS. Apparently ANet is so hell bent on no one farming any of the LS that everything is zero XP and zero loot (the 2 things I’ve heard mentioned as possible triggers for “kill an opponent”) thereby rendering a significant number of sigils, food and few (sometimes critical) traits worthless in the LS. LS is the only place I’ve encountered this with any regularity.

LS is the problem, well, not in a black or white way.
But becos LS does seem to have alot foes that give no XP.

thereby rendering a significant number of sigils, food and few (sometimes critical) traits worthless in the LS. LS is the only place I’ve encountered this with any regularity.

This is an important reason why i stopped playing LS

Didn’t know about this but might want to edit your first post. Comes off like just a stupid rant since it provides zero useful information. Important thread trashed before it begins.

cassius.5809:

Didn’t know about this but might want to edit your first post. Comes off like just a stupid rant since it provides zero useful information. Important thread trashed before it begins.

Is this directed at me? I said please and dont think my OP was a rant. Im pretty sure 2 very short sentences does not qualify as a rant. Maybe at best an annoyed aside…

PaxTheGreatOne.9472:

Not only stacking sigils do not proc, al;so a lot of traits on death and food.

Living story p2: no XP & triggers on deaths

All kills made in the living story do NOT give XP, resulting in a lot of problems
Following normal game this causes a few things to not work as intended:

- Stacking sigils do NOT fuction
no count. so all builds which depend on some specific stacking stat.
So you’d better buy fixed sigils instead of stacking ones…

do “not use” (=> alternative)
no bloodlust (11 gold)=> force (6 gold),
no corruption (2 gold) => bursting, (15 gold)
no perception (1 gold) => accuracy, (1.6 gold)
no momentum. (6.5 gold)
no life, (12 s)
no benevolence (2.5s)

- loot drops, No XP = No drops. (= least of the problems, but lame nevertheless)

- Vengeance on Warrior will NEVER TRIGGER and res you as you havent killed an NPC but a critter with much HP.
This will require you to be ressed by the NPC’s if available… also goes for the mesmer skill…

- Food doesn’t trigger on death , neither do Traits, and neither do Sigils
so do not use:
Bowl of Ettin Stew
Bowl of Garlic Spinach Sautee
Bowl of Sauteed Zucchini with Nutmeg
Handful of Trail Mix
Bowl of Cauliflower Sautee
Bowl of Eggplant Sautee
Bowl of Truffle Sautee
Bowl of Simple Stirfry
Bowl of Avocado Stirfry
Bowl of Eggplant Stirfry
Bowl of Lotus Stirfry
Glass of Melon Juice
Bowl of Blueberry Apple Compote
Bowl of Strawberry Apple Compote
Bowl of Cherry Vanilla Compote
Bowl of Blackberry Pear Compote
Raspberry Peach Compote
Omnomberry Compote
Bowl of Simple Salad
Bowl of Ascalonian Salad
Bowl of Coleslaw
Bowl of Cabbage and Chickpea Salad
Bowl of Asparagus and Sage Salad
Bowl of Seaweed Salad
Experimental Remnant
Marinated Mushroom
Sage Stuffed Mushroom
Triktiki Omelet
Divinity Stuffed Mushroom
Bowl of Tasty Wurm Stew
Eztlitl Stuffed Mushroom
Stuffed Mushroom
Saffron Stuffed Mushroom
Moa Haunch
Spicy Meat Kabob
Pepper Steak Dinner
Sesame Roasted Dinner
Plate of Coriander Crusted Meat Dinner
Plate of Steak and Asparagus Dinner
Dragon’s Breath Bun
Plate of Truffle Steak Dinner
Carrot Soufflé

Nor use the following sigils:
Sigils of Speed (speed on Kill),
Sigils of Stamina (Endurance on Kill),
Sigils of Restoration (Health on Kill) or
Sigils of Luck (Boon on Kill…))*

Just to sum it up, on kill effects do not work in the living story because of the anti farming implementations in place. There’s nothing to fix here really. You really don’t have that many mobs in the instances in the first place. It’s certainly not holding you back from completing the story.

DeWolfe.2174:

Just to sum it up, on kill effects do not work in the living story because of the anti farming implementations in place. There’s nothing to fix here really. You really don’t have that many mobs in the instances in the first place. It’s certainly not holding you back from completing the story.

A whole group of sigils don’t work in LS and there’s “nothing to fix”? If they can fix tool tips then this is surely more important. Yes, the content is still doable without them, but having an arbitrary nerf for a certain type of sigil is bad game design.

On a slightly different note, if it’s just the XP why not, have all creatures in LS give 1xp each? Nobody’s going to alter their gameplay to farm that, but all the on kill effects start working.

Hayashi.3416:

They work on anything that gives experience and nothing that does not give experience on kill. LS is not the problem here.

LS is however where it has the most impact. If you don’t get stacks at Claw of Jormag
its not that important .. if you play personal story you often don’t even have those
sigills and traits .. LS2 however is level 80 so you mostly are full equipped and traited
and have to fight against hordes of mobs .. and no stacks at all.

I’ve already changed all my stacking sigills against 7% crit-chance and 5% damage or so ..

eithinan.9841:

cassius.5809:

Didn’t know about this but might want to edit your first post. Comes off like just a stupid rant since it provides zero useful information. Important thread trashed before it begins.

Is this directed at me? I said please and dont think my OP was a rant. Im pretty sure 2 very short sentences does not qualify as a rant. Maybe at best an annoyed aside…

what Cassius means is this: your OP simply says “fix it.” your OP doesn’t say anything about what’s broken. Cassius is suggesting that you edit your OP to say that on-kill sigils don’t work in LS instances.

PS: i really hope you filed a bug report in game when you played through the LS instance. that bug report automatically includes specific time / server location etc information that would help the dev team see exactly what you are referring to.

why not make all those mobs give 1 experience?

problem fixed

Is anyone noticing the new boss event isn’t giving bloodlust or Master’s bond to ranger pets. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Master%27s_Bond

I did it last night, zoned in on map that had the new boss event. I noticed I wasn’t getting bloodlust and my pet wasn’t getting Master’s bond. I thought at the time that it was bugged.

I noticed as well that the new boss event is the same as LS – no on kill activation. The only “good” part is that you can walk into the event with a partial to full stack. Seriously, this is just becoming pathetic – just stop it already ANet – make every mob in the LS and/or new boss give 1 xp or 1 copper (or whatever the hell it is that is creating the problem) and fix it already.

Orangensaft.7139:

why not make all those mobs give 1 experience?

problem fixed

Then they will maybe also drop loot. They must change the trigger from on exp to
on kill, and then put in some more “if then else” conditions so that it is not triggered
on ambient mobs and whatever else was the reason to thinking it was a good
solution to bundle loot and on-kill effect with exp.

maybe let no mobs that dont give at least 2 exp or more drop loot?
if its possible to code that?
but at least the on kill effects would all be fixed then

Orangensaft.7139:

maybe let no mobs that dont give at least 2 exp or more drop loot?
if its possible to code that?
but at least the on kill effects would all be fixed then

I have a theory that loot drop is also an On Kill effect which calls the same function that all other On Kill effects call, so any change that would implement an exp threshold would also have the same effect on traits, sigils, and foods.

If that’s the case they would need to implement a new function that only the On Kill effect for loot will call, but that might not be a desirable solution because a) it introduces new overhead to the server (since ever kill now calls an additional function), which might cause lots of lag, and b) runs the risk of breaking either or both functions (happens even in “simpler” programs where you have two nearly-identical functions being called at the same time, on the same actor), which can cause On Kill traits/sigils/food to not work, or loot to never drop, or both.

Yeah I’ve not been a fan of personal story and LS since the sept patches where kills in the story don’t count as actual kills for stacking sigils, and effects like guardian virtues recharging on kills.

I can do them and their challenges without.. but.. it is pretty annoying. that one of the most important functions of my guardian build is broken. and can’t be used.

Devildoc.6721:

Yeah I’ve not been a fan of personal story and LS since the sept patches where kills in the story don’t count as actual kills for stacking sigils, and effects like guardian virtues recharging on kills.

Never did it with a guardian, but i’m sure especially that would annoy me to hell if i can’t spam F1 all the time when i have to deal with masses of mobs.

Beldin.5498:

Devildoc.6721:

Yeah I’ve not been a fan of personal story and LS since the sept patches where kills in the story don’t count as actual kills for stacking sigils, and effects like guardian virtues recharging on kills.

Never did it with a guardian, but i’m sure especially that would annoy me to hell if i can’t spam F1 all the time when i have to deal with masses of mobs.

Yup, in open world, in dungeons and fractals, I start every fight by using F1 to blind everything and give me might and put vuln on the mobs, and as I kill more I gain more might,s tack more vuln and re blind.

But in LS.. I mean I’m used to using it, I pull, hit F1, kill, and then… wait 15s on cooldown still?