Guild Wars 2

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I came back to gw2 in January after months of non playing.
I originally left the game long time ago because i flushed lots of golds into the mystic forge ( i know, my fault ).
Anyways this time i was just enjoying my play time, and i have to say i feel like the game has improved a lot.
15 days ago i got spark from forge by just putting 4 random rare daggers i drop from world bosses into it.
It was a good feeling, after all the gold wasted i felt like the game was finally rewarding me.
Feeling lucky i decided to invest 400 golds in greatswords ( always wanted Twilight ) and magically i come back with a Dusk and a Dawn drop.
With the help of my girlfriend i decided to forge Eternity so i could unlock Twilight and Sunrise skins, sell Eternity to get some money back and craft an ascendent greatsword that has the same stats as a Legendary weapon.
One week ago we checked the market and noticed Eternity price almost never drop down 4k golds.
The highest selling price was 4198 golds so we decided to put it at 4k sure we would sell it sooner or later.
Worst decision ever.
The price got undercut in minutes and it went lower and lower the days after.
We never had really the chance to sell it and i feel like i will never do , there are 7 more Eternity cheaper than mine at moment.
Since now i’m down to 60 gold i can’t even cancel it and lower the price ( i would lose 200 gold anyways )
Maybe is because of news about new legendaries and new precursors crafting coming with expansion but i feel like i will never sell it at that price.
Now my game experience is ruined because i don’t want to log in anymore and if i do i always look at the trading post praying to sell that piece of pixels, i have again that bad feeling you have when you waste lots of gold in the mystic forge.
It was my own decision and i blame myself, i don’t blame the game or arena net, i just feel sorry for my girlfriend, since she invested a lot in it to give me the motivation to play this game with her again.
Sorry if i felt the need to vent my frustration.
At least i can give you guys a little advice, if you plan to sell an Eternity be very careful, this may be not the best moment to do it.

Please forgive my english.

I would count yourself lucky you even got anything out of the forge. Some people throw in thier entire net worth, get nothing, and quit. You can atleast eat the loss and still pull out most of your money by selling it the highest buyer and still have 2 great legendary skins. A result that many just dream of. The thing about eternity, many people do exactly what you are doing, I was going to do this, I would expect to be undercurrent. I would expect the precursors and legendaries will only continue to drop in price. So you are losing a bit of money.

If this really causes you to quit even after u crafted and resold the most valuable legendary you really were not motivated to play in the first place and evaluate if you really enjoy the game.

Thats the problem with gambling on the TP. There is no guarantee that your item will be sold. As of right now the best option is to forget about it and who knows over time ppl will pick it up.

Also its kinda greedy that you just wanted the skin and then sell it, so consider it karma.

Mustafa.7684:

Thats the problem with gambling on the TP. There is no guarantee that your item will be sold. As of right now the best option is to forget about it and who knows over time ppl will pick it up.

Also its kinda greedy that you just wanted the skin and then sell it, so consider it karma.

How is that greedy? He put the effort into making it and its his choice to sell it or not. It has nothing to do with greed….

Anyway OP, give it some time. I’ve sold 2 legendaries on the TP a while back and they took sometime to sell. Eternity will sell though, maybe in a week maybe in a month but it WILL sell. Remember HoT is a long ways away.

Mescaline.2743:

Wall of text inc.
I came back to gw2 in January after months of non playing.
I originally left the game long time ago because i flushed lots of golds into the mystic forge ( i know, my fault ).
Anyways this time i was just enjoying my play time, and i have to say i feel like the game has improved a lot.
15 days ago i got spark from forge by just putting 4 random rare daggers i drop from world bosses into it.
It was a good feeling, after all the gold wasted i felt like the game was finally rewarding me.
Feeling lucky i decided to invest 400 golds in greatswords ( always wanted Twilight ) and magically i come back with a Dusk and a Dawn drop.
With the help of my girlfriend i decided to forge Eternity so i could unlock Twilight and Sunrise skins, sell Eternity to get some money back and craft an ascendent greatsword that has the same stats as a Legendary weapon.
One week ago we checked the market and noticed Eternity price almost never drop down 4k golds.
The highest selling price was 4198 golds so we decided to put it at 4k sure we would sell it sooner or later.
Worst decision ever.
The price got undercut in minutes and it went lower and lower the days after.
We never had really the chance to sell it and i feel like i will never do , there are 7 more Eternity cheaper than mine at moment.
Since now i’m down to 60 gold i can’t even cancel it and lower the price ( i would lose 200 gold anyways )
Maybe is because of news about new legendaries and new precursors crafting coming with expansion but i feel like i will never sell it at that price.
Now my game experience is ruined because i don’t want to log in anymore and if i do i always look at the trading post praying to sell that piece of pixels, i have again that bad feeling you have when you waste lots of gold in the mystic forge.
It was my own decision and i blame myself, i don’t blame the game or arena net, i just feel sorry for my girlfriend, since she invested a lot in it to give me the motivation to play this game with her again.
Sorry if i felt the need to vent my frustration.
At least i can give you guys a little advice, if you plan to sell an Eternity be very careful, this may be not the best moment to do it.

Please forgive my english.

If you’re going to quit because you didn’t think of the market, thats selfish to your gf.

Also you must realize that undercuts WILL happen. When you sell big items like that, its a waiting game. If you want it to sell, you can’t expect it to sell instantly unless you are willing to take a chunk loss. Auctioning is an investment.

If you’re looking for a quick buck, you need to be prepared to lose a lot of your investment.

As for it “ruining the game” if that one thing ruins the game for you, then you must not have enjoyed the game very much. there’s tons to do, play with your gf or something, or just take a break and only come back to do dailies and other things.

On the other hand there are people like me who wish i could even get 4kg relatively fast to even get such a cool weapon, but when i sell items for 100’s of gold, i know if i need the gold, i need to sell at a cut that someone will buy it at, or i need to wait.

I sold an exotic ring for 70g, undercut it by 1s. 5 people under cut me. It looked like it wasn’t going to sell, but 2 days later, someone bought it. Since the price point is so high, the differences in price are going to be huge for a wait/instant buy so keep that in mind.

It would be better to just let it sit honestly. It will have a better chance of selling that way.

yeah lot of people do what you do sell eternity because the weapon is very unpopular, it can’t be match with one armor since its color change day and night, i would say don’t expect to sell it before long time, with Hot new legendaries there will be less demand and moreover if the pre are easy to get at Hot all the legendaries will drop in price

Bebunw.8137:

yeah lot of people do what you do sell eternity because the weapon is very unpopular, it can’t be match with one armor since its color change day and night, i would say don’t expect to sell it before long time, with Hot new legendaries there will be less demand and moreover if the pre are easy to get at Hot all the legendaries will drop in price

Who knows when HoT will come out though. We dont know if the legendaries will drop in price on release. We dont know what its going to take to collect a precursor. Everything right now is speculation when it comes to whats going to happen to the prices.

Now isn’t the best time to sell legendary weapons as everyone seems to be crafting and selling them.

Hey Mescaline: I’m really sorry that what should have been a great experience for you has turned into misery. (And by the way: your English is fine.)

I feel some of your pain. I was holding out for 6,000 gold (a price I thought worthy of the skin) and I kick myself for not selling when it was worth “only” 5,000 gp.

As you have discovered, high-ticket items follow different market rules than most of us are used to. The original Legendaries are in a downward cycle now, with the announcement that HoT (the GW2 expac) will include new ways of acquiring precursors (and it seems like new legendary skins). And Eternity follows a different pattern altogether, as its creation unlocks skins for two legendaries, so its always going to lose value more quickly than other legendaries. (And, annoyingly, it gains value more slowly, too.)

If you do feel up to logging into the game, whisper me or PM me here and maybe we can discuss some options for taking some of the sting out of getting undercut by so many so quickly…and perhaps even figuring out a way to relist your Eternity, without having to grind for the 200g you’d need to do so.

Once again, I’m sorry you ran into something that turned your beautiful new shiny into a miserable pile of gooey pixels.

So you got SUPER lucky, dropping 3 precursors from the Mystic Forge and throw that all out by don’t making your homework? Its a 4k sell man, you didn’t thought of looking on spidy or another website to see what were the tendance in the price of Eternity? Sorry for you, it suck but…

As I was saying in LS chat yesterday, stories of out and out attempts to exploit people’s desires for these items backfiring on the seller make me laugh heartily. I really want the Aetherized Pistol skin, and I find it extremely amusing that those people listing them will never sell them at the price they are up for, yet removing them to try again at a lower price will lose them money.

You remind me of the the very worst stories of corporate greed. I have absolutely no sympathy. On the contrary, thank you for enlightening my day with this story of greed gone bad.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Hey Mescaline: I’m really sorry that what should have been a great experience for you has turned into misery. (And by the way: your English is fine.)

I feel some of your pain. I was holding out for 6,000 gold (a price I thought worthy of the skin) and I kick myself for not selling when it was worth “only” 5,000 gp.

As you have discovered, high-ticket items follow different market rules than most of us are used to. The original Legendaries are in a downward cycle now, with the announcement that HoT (the GW2 expac) will include new ways of acquiring precursors (and it seems like new legendary skins). And Eternity follows a different pattern altogether, as its creation unlocks skins for two legendaries, so its always going to lose value more quickly than other legendaries. (And, annoyingly, it gains value more slowly, too.)

If you do feel up to logging into the game, whisper me or PM me here and maybe we can discuss some options for taking some of the sting out of getting undercut by so many so quickly…and perhaps even figuring out a way to relist your Eternity, without having to grind for the 200g you’d need to do so.

Once again, I’m sorry you ran into something that turned your beautiful new shiny into a miserable pile of gooey pixels.

This is such a kind response! I also wanted to say that your English is fine, and had to comment on this. Ill, I’m sorry I have but one +1 to give.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

As you have discovered, high-ticket items follow different market rules than most of us are used to. The original Legendaries are in a downward cycle now, with the announcement that HoT (the GW2 expac) will include new ways of acquiring precursors (and it seems like new legendary skins). And Eternity follows a different pattern altogether, as its creation unlocks skins for two legendaries, so its always going to lose value more quickly than other legendaries. (And, annoyingly, it gains value more slowly, too.)

ive found eternity to be predictable. tons of people are satisfied with twilight/sunrise and just make eternity so they can have both the legendary skins and a significant amount of gold. the price of eternity will never be anywhere near the price of twilight + sunrise because of that. additionally, with HoT, lots of people are crafting legendaries because the pre markets are being flooded due to the guaranteed pres announcement. but people dont actually want eternity all that much. they just want 1 of the skins and their gold back. so of course the eternity market is getting flooded too, because its an out for the people who wanted either twilight/sunrise and decided to make them.

Serves you right for trying to sell a legendary instead of equipping it.

Thank you everyone for sharing your opinion, good or bad.
Even if you feel like i did something wrong to the mankind and have the urge to make fun of my troubles i appreciate your opinion.
Some of you had very nice words and maybe, as suggested, i should just try to enjoy my play time with my girlfriend not thinking about it.
Just to clarify i was always low on gold in this game, i just had the chance, for the first time, to make the golds i never had, and i got it.
Thing went wrong, as you know.
I don’t think i was that greedy, or karma should really punish me in some mysterious way but if this is your opinion i respect it.

GuzziHero.2467:

As I was saying in LS chat yesterday, stories of out and out attempts to exploit people’s desires for these items backfiring on the seller make me laugh heartily. I really want the Aetherized Pistol skin, and I find it extremely amusing that those people listing them will never sell them at the price they are up for, yet removing them to try again at a lower price will lose them money.

You remind me of the the very worst stories of corporate greed. I have absolutely no sympathy. On the contrary, thank you for enlightening my day with this story of greed gone bad.

well, those people are patient enough to wait almost 2 years. I guess a couple year more wouldn’t hurt.

wish you luck if Anet re-release the item again. Which is unknown if they’ll ever do.

laokoko.7403:

GuzziHero.2467:

As I was saying in LS chat yesterday, stories of out and out attempts to exploit people’s desires for these items backfiring on the seller make me laugh heartily. I really want the Aetherized Pistol skin, and I find it extremely amusing that those people listing them will never sell them at the price they are up for, yet removing them to try again at a lower price will lose them money.

You remind me of the the very worst stories of corporate greed. I have absolutely no sympathy. On the contrary, thank you for enlightening my day with this story of greed gone bad.

well, those people are patient enough to wait almost 2 years. I guess a couple year more wouldn’t hurt.

wish you luck if Anet re-release the item again. Which is unknown if they’ll ever do.

I would bet money that all the old/retired black lion collections will be rereleased for 2 tickets over time this year.

If you’re leaving, feel free to log in one last time to cancel the auction and mail me Eternity. Cheers!

cafard.8953:

If you’re leaving, feel free to log in one last time to cancel the auction and mail me Eternity. Cheers!

Never gets old
I am sorry but i think i will just send it to my girlfriend, in case i decide to remove the auction.

The sooner you give up working towards legendaries, and start just having fun with your gf, the happier you’ll be (at least in my experience). I would sell any precursor drops without a second thought myself, but that’s just me. Maybe get her a new character slot, gfs love character slots. And dyes. And cute fuzzy animal backpacks/headgear. And the shiny gemstore staff (got that for her with all my gold a while back). =P

Mescaline.2743:

Thank you everyone for sharing your opinion, good or bad.
Even if you feel like i did something wrong to the mankind and have the urge to make fun of my troubles i appreciate your opinion.
Some of you had very nice words and maybe, as suggested, i should just try to enjoy my play time with my girlfriend not thinking about it.
Just to clarify i was always low on gold in this game, i just had the chance, for the first time, to make the golds i never had, and i got it.
Thing went wrong, as you know.
I don’t think i was that greedy, or karma should really punish me in some mysterious way but if this is your opinion i respect it.

You dont have to defend yourself. People are haters and will hate no matter what. They wish they had a Eternity they can put on the tp so the jealousy is coming out. For now play and enjoy the game. Before you know it you will have 3.5k gold in the tp waiting for you.

I don’t even know what’s going on. How, in any manner, can you be complaining for being gifted sumptuous amounts of gold? This is on you dude, you’re taking a blessing and spinning it into a curse through your own work. At some point, people need to help themselves.

They have have sad you can craft precursor when expansion come out so it was just matter of time when the market crash.

This is the worst case of GW2 first world problems I’ve ever seem.
With just 400g investment you got both Dusk and Down, and you are feeling sad because you are not getting about 4000g that you wanted but instead you’ll get like 3k profit? Yeah it must be hard being you.

Rialen.1524:

I don’t even know what’s going on. How, in any manner, can you be complaining for being gifted sumptuous amounts of gold? This is on you dude, you’re taking a blessing and spinning it into a curse through your own work. At some point, people need to help themselves.

At moment i am sitting on 60 gold and i can’t even re-list the item but i get your point.
I still have something worth, maybe not worth the effort you put in it but still worth lots of golds, even if you can’t obtain it
Anyways i checked the market before listing it and Eternity almost never drop down 4k golds, the highest one was at 4198 so i thought undercutting it for almost 200 golds was a good decision.
How wrong i was.

Belzebu.3912:

This is the worst case of GW2 first world problems I’ve ever seem.
With just 400g investment you got both Dusk and Down, and you are feeling sad because you are not getting about 4000g that you wanted but instead you’ll get like 3k profit? Yeah it must be hard being you.

Crafting Twilight and Sunrise isn’t exactly cheap.
Eternity price is much lower then the swords you use to forge it.
I understand your point, people doesn’t even get the chance to make a legendary while i made the most expensive one.
This is true, but still i will never sell it, and if i remove the auction i lose 200 golds, and what if i re-list it for 3500 golds and i don’t even sell it at this price? I’ll lose even more golds and the effort me and my girlfriend put to craft it.
Actually if i sell it for 4000 i almost get back the same amount of gold i used to make it( 3400 golds profit ).

Mescaline.2743:

Belzebu.3912:

This is the worst case of GW2 first world problems I’ve ever seem.
With just 400g investment you got both Dusk and Down, and you are feeling sad because you are not getting about 4000g that you wanted but instead you’ll get like 3k profit? Yeah it must be hard being you.

Crafting Twilight and Sunrise isn’t exactly cheap.
Eternity price is much lower then the swords you use to forge it.
I understand your point, people doesn’t even get the chance to make a legendary while i made the most expensive one.
This is true, but still i will never sell it, and if i remove the auction i lose 200 golds, and what if i re-list it for 3500 golds and i don’t even sell it at this price? I’ll lose even more golds and the effort me and my girlfriend put to craft it.
Actually if i sell it for 4000 i almost get back the same amount of gold i used to make it( 3400 golds profit ).

Let me impart economic wisdom onto you. you say you lost 200g by cutting it under to make the sale.

the truth is, you have not lost OR made any gold at all until you physically sell the item. Until you sell the item, you are at 0%profit(outside of getting the 2 legendary skins, which is a trade off for the mats and time). Even if you were to sell Eternity at 2000 gold, that’s 2000g you didn’t have before.

You are looking at this in the wrong light. If you truly want money, like i stated the first time, how about this

Sell it low. Maybe not 2k, maybe 2500, maybe 3200. maybe 3000. Make it low enough to where those “long time sellers” won’t try to undercut because theyll be thinking the same way you are(e.g loss of gold).

Or sell it to the highest buy order, whatever that is

Otherwise i would give it to your gf, that might make her happy

If it were me in this situation, I would wait a month or two months, see if it sells in that period of time. If it doesn’t sell and the price is still low, then you will have a couple of options. By then you will likely have the relisting fee, especially if you work towards getting it. You can pull it and sell at the then current price or the highest buy order if you don’t want to chance it, or you can eat the loss and give it to your girlfriend so she can have that legendary.

Your best bet, imo, is to put it out of your mind for now and just play.

edgarallanpwn.8739:

Mescaline.2743:

Belzebu.3912:

This is the worst case of GW2 first world problems I’ve ever seem.
With just 400g investment you got both Dusk and Down, and you are feeling sad because you are not getting about 4000g that you wanted but instead you’ll get like 3k profit? Yeah it must be hard being you.

Crafting Twilight and Sunrise isn’t exactly cheap.
Eternity price is much lower then the swords you use to forge it.
I understand your point, people doesn’t even get the chance to make a legendary while i made the most expensive one.
This is true, but still i will never sell it, and if i remove the auction i lose 200 golds, and what if i re-list it for 3500 golds and i don’t even sell it at this price? I’ll lose even more golds and the effort me and my girlfriend put to craft it.
Actually if i sell it for 4000 i almost get back the same amount of gold i used to make it( 3400 golds profit ).

Let me impart economic wisdom onto you. you say you lost 200g by cutting it under to make the sale.

the truth is, you have not lost OR made any gold at all until you physically sell the item. Until you sell the item, you are at 0%profit(outside of getting the 2 legendary skins, which is a trade off for the mats and time). Even if you were to sell Eternity at 2000 gold, that’s 2000g you didn’t have before.

That isn’t what he said. He said if he removes it from the trading post he loses 200 gold, which is true as the listing fee is not refundable.

Exactly what edgarallanpwn said.
Besides, you got each precursor for about 200g and you spent about 1.3k each to actually craft Eternity (probably less). That is a total of 3k spent, if you sell for 3.5k you’ll get your money back and 2 skins that is worth 2k each.

You certainly did it for the skins of Twilight and Sunrise, and you’ll get both pretty much for free while a regular player would need to spend about 4k to get them.

Your feeling of frustration comes from a bit of greed you had, in your mind the skins was not enough you wanted to get a good chunk of gold along with the very expensive skins.

I’d be happy with just getting one precursor. I stopped dumping stuff into the toilet. I want to make a Twilight and I’m assembling all the gifts. I will just do the collection, and I’m glad they are coming out with that. I see stories of getting 3 precursors almost back to back from the toilet, or just opening a champ bag or crumby chest to get one. I use to think the predetermined account RNG was a myth, but more and more I start to feel that its not. I can pull 20 carapace armor boxes from a chest farm while people complain in map chat that they never get any. Heck, I dropped 4 rare GS in to the forge last night after boss train and got a spear gun… really?

Mescaline.2743:

cafard.8953:

If you’re leaving, feel free to log in one last time to cancel the auction and mail me Eternity. Cheers!

Never gets old
I am sorry but i think i will just send it to my girlfriend, in case i decide to remove the auction.

That’s probably a better use for it.

JustTrogdor.7892:

edgarallanpwn.8739:

Mescaline.2743:

Belzebu.3912:

This is the worst case of GW2 first world problems I’ve ever seem.
With just 400g investment you got both Dusk and Down, and you are feeling sad because you are not getting about 4000g that you wanted but instead you’ll get like 3k profit? Yeah it must be hard being you.

Crafting Twilight and Sunrise isn’t exactly cheap.
Eternity price is much lower then the swords you use to forge it.
I understand your point, people doesn’t even get the chance to make a legendary while i made the most expensive one.
This is true, but still i will never sell it, and if i remove the auction i lose 200 golds, and what if i re-list it for 3500 golds and i don’t even sell it at this price? I’ll lose even more golds and the effort me and my girlfriend put to craft it.
Actually if i sell it for 4000 i almost get back the same amount of gold i used to make it( 3400 golds profit ).

Let me impart economic wisdom onto you. you say you lost 200g by cutting it under to make the sale.

the truth is, you have not lost OR made any gold at all until you physically sell the item. Until you sell the item, you are at 0%profit(outside of getting the 2 legendary skins, which is a trade off for the mats and time). Even if you were to sell Eternity at 2000 gold, that’s 2000g you didn’t have before.

That isn’t what he said. He said if he removes it from the trading post he loses 200 gold, which is true as the listing fee is not refundable.

He loses the gold regardless. If you your auction sells, you don’t get your 200g back, you just make a profit larger than your auction fee. Provided it actually sells in the first place.

Also see below. Still related to the small undercut. The point was undercutting it so small is typically not a good idea if you want a guaranteed sell. 200g on a 4k+ gold item is still not that much of an undercut % wise.

He only undercut it by 5% rounded.

You should read fully before replying, as i have stated this multiple times

Mescaline.2743:

Rialen.1524:

I don’t even know what’s going on. How, in any manner, can you be complaining for being gifted sumptuous amounts of gold? This is on you dude, you’re taking a blessing and spinning it into a curse through your own work. At some point, people need to help themselves.

Anyways i checked the market before listing it and Eternity almost never drop down 4k golds, the highest one was at 4198 so i thought undercutting it for almost 200 golds was a good decision.
How wrong i was.

Hate to hear this, OP, but honestly, that’s how the market works. If I quit every time I posted something and was undercut I would have quit a long time ago.

You need to either be extra patient (which prices will likely keep dropping because of HoT legendary announcement about precursor crafting— and honestly you should have anticipated the prices decreasing before you even posted) or pull it and eat the 200g. Those are really your only options. That or quit.

I know you said you were watching the TP prices, but did you watch the TP supply as well? Did you look to see how frequently Eternity sold/was posted? All of that information is pertinent as well to time your posting and set pricing.

Also, think about the guy who had posted his Eternity for the 4198g that you turned around and listed one for 4k. You did the same exact thing to him that someone else did to you. Eternity isn’t like selling ectos. If you anticpated that people were chomping at the bit to spend 4k then that was poor judgement.

It’s a terrible feeling when someone undercuts you, especially since you lose your list fee. But, if you are OK doing it to someone, then you need to be OK with someone doing it to you.

We shouldn’t be able to sell Legendaries anyway imo. Account bound on acquire. They are supposed to be a statement on the things you have achived as a player and areas of the game you have mastered.

Making them sellable undermines their posession and allows for drama such as OP’s experience.

If you were in it for the money, you should have sold dusk and dawn.

If you were in it for the skins, you already got them.

Either way if you are quitting the game over this, you obviously did not enjoy it in a meaningful way.

So you are saying you got lucky getting 3 precursors, crafted 2 legendarys, and now you whine about somebody undercutting you in tp?

Wow. Just wow.

why not selling it for highest bid and done deal?

That’s the nature of the TP.

A while back when I had very little in the way of gold, probably about 100 or so, but a lot of assets (materials etc) probably around a few hundred G worth, I decided to make an exotic skin and sell it. So I made Titan’s Vengeance, bought a few more mats investing another 10 or so G into it and popped it into the TP for 100g which would net me about 70g profit, since I had all the mats to make it. Watched the price drop down to 90g then 85g.

Now, I had 2 options much like you do.

1. Pull it out, sell at a lower price and absorb the loss
2. Keep it on the TP and wait

I went for #2 because the movement of such an item is going to be very slow, and even slower for a legendary, as they are high value, high margin, low quantity items. After about 3 weeks sitting there, the higher orders whittled away until it finally sold. Patience won out.
I did the same for an Azurite Orichalcum amulet which go for between 35-40g mainly because of the rarity of the orbs. Again, I waited out about 2 weeks before the order sold. I sold it for 39g50 but it had dropped as far as 33g.

It can be hard watching a very high value order sitting there tying up gold, especially so for legendaries. You probably set your price point too high especially with HoT precursors coming. Legendaries and Precursor movement will be substantial in the coming months as people try to off load their stock before craftable and collectible pres arrive.

Sorry but you stated you got Spark Dusk and Dawn from the forge…. Zero sympathy from me.

While I understand your frustration with being undercut on the TP, I hope you realize how extremely lucky you are to get three precursors out of the forge for only 400g. Being able to make any profit from the forge is always a win.

Just know that any time you post something on the TP you always risk being undercut. Posting legendaries on the TP is even more risky. While a lot of people want legendaries, a lot of them are not willing to spend the price. And even if they are, it takes a while for some people to earn up enough gold to pay for them. Because of this, as well as the quantity of the legendaries demanded, the price can drastically fluctuate. The fact that precursors are said be be able to be craftable with HoT, is something that also should be considered.

You may be able to eventually sell Eternity, but it may time a long time. You really need to have patience when it comes to these sorts of things.

The Trading Post is just another PvP game mode. The sooner people realize this, the less upset people will become when their items get undercut. On that note, realize that there are many rich players who can afford to post and cancel Eternity listings, so competing with them is a losing battle. The best you can do in this situation is to sell to the highest Buy Order, or put the sword up for sale at a price vastly lower than the current lowest price.

Wow someone actually undercut you in the tp, who would’ve thunk?.

I feel sorry for you op

Edit: Looking at history for Eternity fro the past month it dipped to 3850g, yeah totally not your fault man for thinking it’ll sell fast at 4k…

I’m so sorry you got 3 precursors and 2 legendaries. I really have such sympathy.

Eternity has always been sold for under its cost. You should have sold twilight and sunrise seperately.
It’s sold for nearly price of 1 legendary. And yes, there are too many legendary weapon sellers, they get undercuts quickly.
There are some suspicious sellers as well, I saw some dude spamming tp with incinerators while undercutting ppl 200g below. He continued to undercut like this for 1-1.5 month then we cancelled our listing. They may be exploring maps and farming karma all day though.

All I see is you gambled, and you lost. Now you’re crying.

Meanwhile, others struggle to even get their first precursor, while you cry when you got 3, and decided to get greedy.

I feel for you, I do, but that’s the way the market works. Guild Wars 2 has a very fluid economy with risks and rewards. For those saying that that system only encourages greed, well…

The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed — for lack of a better word — is good.

Greed is right.

Greed works.

Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

Greed, in all of its forms — greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge — has marked the upward surge of mankind.

And greed — you mark my words — will not only save the Trading Post, but it will save that little corporation called Tyria as well.

JLHiggs.6258:

The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed — for lack of a better word — is good.

Greed is right.

Greed works.

Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

Greed, in all of its forms — greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge — has marked the upward surge of mankind.

And greed — you mark my words — will not only save the Trading Post, but it will save that little corporation called Tyria as well.

That speech (from the movie Wall Street) always bugged me because it’s such a complete mischaracterization of how things really work.

People try different things. Some things work. Some things don’t. All greed does is get them to try things they normally wouldn’t have tried. i.e. It just gets them to try more different things, thus increasing the chances they’ll stumble onto something that works.

In that respect, greed “works” and it really is “good”. But it’s a catalyzing factor, not a causal factor. Just like having a society which treasures diversity is a catalyzing factor. Heck, a disproportionate number of inventions and new scientific theories come from nutso whack jobs with crazy ideas. Most of them are bunk, but occasionally one stumbles upon an idea which really does work, because s/he was willing to think of something different which no “sane” person would consider. The big bang, continental drift, quantum mechanics, an asteroid wiping out the dinosaurs were all considered crazy stupid theories when they were first proposed. (A lot of people still consider quantum mechanics to be crazy stupid.)

I feel for you, I do, but that’s the way the market works. Guild Wars 2 has a very fluid economy with risks and rewards. For those saying that that system only encourages greed, well…

Bear in mind that every transaction is symmetric. For every seller who makes a sale, there is a buyer who makes a purchase. Sellers want the price to be higher. Buyers want the price to be lower. Both are being greedy. If you’re a buyer who thinks prices are too high, you’re being just as greedy as the seller who thinks prices are too low.

The seller can drive prices up by refusing to sell at a lower price. But that risks never being able to sell the item (which is what happened to OP).

The buyer can drive prices down by refusing to buy at a higher price. But that risks never being able to buy the item.

It’s completely symmetric. There is no good guy / bad guy. Just two greedy people who have to somehow meet in the middle. In fact you can think of the item seller as a buyer (buying gold and paying for it with an item). And the item buyer as a seller (selling gold in exchange for an item as payment).

I’ve just been waiting for a place to plug that speech in for a while. This thread worked.

Yeah, it must suck to get 3 precursors, 2 legendaries and Eternity. I would quit the game aswell.

Poor you. You know how much I’ve flushed looking for a precursor????