Guild Wars 2

Am i the only one, beginning to get a bit bored with GW2?

First of all. No i didnt rush to lvl 80. I came lvl 80 this thursday.

Now that im 80, i just really dont know what to do.
Sure i could “grind” dungeons for tokens to buy gear. But dungeons just isnt that fun.
Exploring areas is alright, until youve done done it for a while, then its kinda lame aswell.
PvP is cool, but doing the same gamemode over and over again is just boring.
There isnt really anything to achieve in this game, if you know what i mean.

ArenaNet doesnt seem to give any news or updates, on what they are working on.
Sure they say once in a while what they have “fixed” but nothing else.
It may be because its F2P, that, thats their excuse. But im telling you guys, this game will soon be losing players, alot of players, if ArenaNet doesnt soon give us some “News”.

Please GW2 Fanboys, dont get all mad. It can be that its only me, and that maybe MMO’s are just losing my interest, or i dunno.

What do you guys think?

EDIT:
Heres a list of some ideas ive come up with. Please comment and feel free to add your own.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/What-this-game-really-needs/first#post215776

What are you looking for? You said a lot of things you don’t like but nothing that you would like.

Do you feel that you need direction in your games? I believe that is an issue for a lot of people. And is why sandbox games in general are not that popular (not saying GW2 is a sandbox, it isn’t, but it doesn’t have directive goals for you to attain that most themepark mmos have).

Nageth.5648:

What are you looking for? You said a lot of things you don’t like but nothing that you would like.

Ive made a thread about what i would like in the game

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/What-this-game-really-needs/first#post215776

Not sure why you have two threads on the same subject. shrug

Anyway, looks like you mostly just want more sPvP modes and you want competitive PvE.

As far as sPvP I think they stated (sorry I don’t have the source) that they have many modes that they sort of kick around and develop. They only released the one mode because it had the best balance and they’re trying to make sPvP into an eSport. Essentially, I doubt they’ll release new sPvP modes at a quick rate to ensure balance.

As far as competitive PvE, yeah you’re probably sol outside of the mini games. We just have the keg brawl game at the moment but supposedly they have more they will release. Hope they add more here soon as the keg one is pretty fun.

Creeper.9360:

Do you feel that you need direction in your games? I believe that is an issue for a lot of people. And is why sandbox games in general are not that popular (not saying GW2 is a sandbox, it isn’t, but it doesn’t have directive goals for you to attain that most themepark mmos have).

Yeah i know what you mean. But no thats not what im looking for..
But i mean for example, the game should be as far away from “grinding” as possible, and yet theyve made the exact thing they tried not to make.

Dungeons for example, people find groups and keeps doing the same bosses over and over and over. its boring, it ruins the game.

Instead they could have increased the difficulty of the dungeon and made them a whole lot longer, and increased the tokens you get.

I can only seem to play for a few hours or so now without getting a headache. I want the rest of the CoF armor but they kind of screwed that up. So now I just sit outside of the dungeon for an hour hoping a group might pop up, do it once or twice and get off because I get headaches when I am really annoyed.

I get what you’re saying as far as grinding. Honestly, I think a large part of the blame here lies with the players. I don’t know if grinding is addictive or what but dungeons are being treated as a huge grind at the moment (which is sad). I don’t know how they can fix this. Maybe a better dungeon finder would help because that way getting a group together wouldn’t be such a huge event and you’d be more likely to just casually hop into a dungeon. (and the token drop is increasing)

Best way to approach the problem of grinding is if the game feels like a grind then stop what you’re doing. That could me step away from the game for a while or just doing something else (I leveled up cooking a bit for variety, myself).

Nageth.5648:

I get what you’re saying as far as grinding. Honestly, I think a large part of the blame here lies with the players. I don’t know if grinding is addictive or what but dungeons are being treated as a huge grind at the moment (which is sad). I don’t know how they can fix this. Maybe a better dungeon finder would help because that way getting a group together wouldn’t be such a huge event and you’d be more likely to just casually hop into a dungeon. (and the token drop is increasing)

Best way to approach the problem of grinding is if the game feels like a grind then stop what you’re doing. That could me step away from the game for a while or just doing something else (I leveled up cooking a bit for variety, myself).

As i wrote before, make dungeons longer, increase tokens, make everybody who joins get a cooldown on the dungeon. Its an really easy fix, but ArenaNet is slacking more than BioWare did with SWTOR..

Can you explain in more detail how longer dungeons would fix the issue?

Gear wise

Get exotics by:
Getting the 42K karma set
Getting a crafted set
Buy it
Dungeon runs

Get mythical by:
Doing a lot of crap

Questing wise:
Get 100%
Explore hidden DE’s

Crafting:
Get all crafting skills to max.

Dungeons:
Try and do every story/explorable path.

If none of the above – quit and come back when either
Content update happens
Expansion releases.

*Edit: Ohh yeah and find mystic forge exotics/recipes.

Nageth.5648:

Can you explain in more detail how longer dungeons would fix the issue?

If you made dungeons longer, you wouldnt be able to get to bosses as fast as you can now.

How would an increased time commitment decrease the feeling of dungeons being a grind?

I would think it would be the opposite affect

80 Things to Do At Level 80

Complete your personal story
Defeat Zhaitan
Unlock all available skills for your profession / race
Raise your crafting disciplines to skill level 400
Earn enough gold to purchase a racial armor set
Earn enough karma to purchase an exotic armor set
Play through all dungeons in story mode
Complete all dungeons in explorable mode
Complete all 33 possible explorable mode dungeon paths
Earn enough dungeon tokens to purchase a set of armor
Collect a set of armor from each dungeon in the game
Start a petition to make the Undead Orrian Chicken a new necro minion
Earn enough karma to purchase a racial weapon
Craft an exotic weapon for your character
Craft an exotic armor set for your character
Purchase a Dragon’s Deep weapon
Earn all possible PvE titles
Experiment with new builds for your profession
Discover all possible recipes for your crafting disciplines
Master all crafting disciplines
Experiment with the Mystic Forge
Create a Mystic weapon in the Mystic Forge
Craft a legendary weapon in the Mystic Forge
Explore all areas in the game
Find and use a vial of black dye
Find a vial of black dye and give it to a friend
Create or purchase a full set of 20 slot bags
Give Logan a wedgie
Participate in the Norn Keg Brawl
Unlock all Keg Brawl achievements
Create a new character to experience a different profession / race
Participate in structured PvP
Raise your sPvP rank
Achieve the rank of Ascendant in sPvP
Complete your favorite sPvP cosmetic armor set
Collect new cosmetic weapon skins for sPvP
Unlock all possible cosmetic weapon and armor skins in sPvP
Earn all sPvP titles
Find and complete all 31 jumping puzzles
Complete the current Monthly achievements
Help your guild earn influence to unlock additional perks
Outrun a centaur
Charm all possible pets as a Ranger
Create an all-ranger guild called Team Rocket, lose constantly in sPvP
Collect all 101 types of cooking materials
Fill every collection slot in the bank with at least one item
Participate in World versus World
Help your world win in WvW
Defeat enough enemy players in WvW to complete the medal
Complete the awesome Yakslapper achievement in WvW
Complete all WvW achievements
Build and use all siege weapon types in WvW
Earn all possible WvW Titles
Play the organ in Caledon forest, and party with the Quaggan
Earn enough gold to purchase a Commander Tome
Visit the monument to Killeen and pay your respects
Defeat the Shatterer
Defeat the Claw of Jormag
Defeat Tequatl the Sunless
Add new friends to your friend’s list
Organize an in-game event for your guild
Complete every map in the game
Participate in meta events
Discover and participate in new dynamic events
Collect stacks of butter and butter prank your friends
Learn the ins and outs of the Trading Post
Get rich selling Globs of Ectoplasm
Buy a Box o’ Fun and throw a party in Lion’s Arch
Complete an armor set for your character’s Order
Read all of the books in Divinity’s Reach
Read the story of how Ebonhawke was founded
Complete all possible weapon achievements for your character
Defeat the Champion of Grenth and purchase the exotic armor set
Write about your level 80 experience, have it published on GW2Hub
Purchase a set of armor from the guild armorsmith
Purchase a set of weapons from the guild weaponsmith
Complete all Slayer achievements
Complete the Lifetime Survivor achievement
Go skydiving in Arah after defeating Zhaitan
Have fun!

Nageth.5648:

How would an increased time commitment decrease the feeling of dungeons being a grind?

Omfg, are you a Fanboy undercover or something?. why are u asking all these questions.

Isnt it obvious?

Cezton.2415:

80 Things to Do At Level 80

Complete your personal story
Defeat Zhaitan
Unlock all available skills for your profession / race
Raise your crafting disciplines to skill level 400
Earn enough gold to purchase a racial armor set
Earn enough karma to purchase an exotic armor set
Play through all dungeons in story mode
Complete all dungeons in explorable mode
Complete all 33 possible explorable mode dungeon paths
Earn enough dungeon tokens to purchase a set of armor
Collect a set of armor from each dungeon in the game
Start a petition to make the Undead Orrian Chicken a new necro minion
Earn enough karma to purchase a racial weapon
Craft an exotic weapon for your character
Craft an exotic armor set for your character
Purchase a Dragon’s Deep weapon
Earn all possible PvE titles
Experiment with new builds for your profession
Discover all possible recipes for your crafting disciplines
Master all crafting disciplines
Experiment with the Mystic Forge
Create a Mystic weapon in the Mystic Forge
Craft a legendary weapon in the Mystic Forge
Explore all areas in the game
Find and use a vial of black dye
Find a vial of black dye and give it to a friend
Create or purchase a full set of 20 slot bags
Give Logan a wedgie
Participate in the Norn Keg Brawl
Unlock all Keg Brawl achievements
Create a new character to experience a different profession / race
Participate in structured PvP
Raise your sPvP rank
Achieve the rank of Ascendant in sPvP
Complete your favorite sPvP cosmetic armor set
Collect new cosmetic weapon skins for sPvP
Unlock all possible cosmetic weapon and armor skins in sPvP
Earn all sPvP titles
Find and complete all 31 jumping puzzles
Complete the current Monthly achievements
Help your guild earn influence to unlock additional perks
Outrun a centaur
Charm all possible pets as a Ranger
Create an all-ranger guild called Team Rocket, lose constantly in sPvP
Collect all 101 types of cooking materials
Fill every collection slot in the bank with at least one item
Participate in World versus World
Help your world win in WvW
Defeat enough enemy players in WvW to complete the medal
Complete the awesome Yakslapper achievement in WvW
Complete all WvW achievements
Build and use all siege weapon types in WvW
Earn all possible WvW Titles
Play the organ in Caledon forest, and party with the Quaggan
Earn enough gold to purchase a Commander Tome
Visit the monument to Killeen and pay your respects
Defeat the Shatterer
Defeat the Claw of Jormag
Defeat Tequatl the Sunless
Add new friends to your friend’s list
Organize an in-game event for your guild
Complete every map in the game
Participate in meta events
Discover and participate in new dynamic events
Collect stacks of butter and butter prank your friends
Learn the ins and outs of the Trading Post
Get rich selling Globs of Ectoplasm
Buy a Box o’ Fun and throw a party in Lion’s Arch
Complete an armor set for your character’s Order
Read all of the books in Divinity’s Reach
Read the story of how Ebonhawke was founded
Complete all possible weapon achievements for your character
Defeat the Champion of Grenth and purchase the exotic armor set
Write about your level 80 experience, have it published on GW2Hub
Purchase a set of armor from the guild armorsmith
Purchase a set of weapons from the guild weaponsmith
Complete all Slayer achievements
Complete the Lifetime Survivor achievement
Go skydiving in Arah after defeating Zhaitan
Have fun!

Ive read it. And tbh, this list has to be one of the lamest excuses to try and get attention to the game. “Visit the monument to Killeen and pay your respects”
“Outrun a centaur” ……..

UgaBuga.6457:

Nageth.5648:

How would an increased time commitment decrease the feeling of dungeons being a grind?

Omfg, are you a Fanboy undercover or something?. why are u asking all these questions.

Isnt it obvious?

Yeah, I feel it just becomes a longer grind.

riku.2091:

UgaBuga.6457:

Nageth.5648:

How would an increased time commitment decrease the feeling of dungeons being a grind?

Omfg, are you a Fanboy undercover or something?. why are u asking all these questions.

Isnt it obvious?

Yeah, I feel it just becomes a longer grind.

How can it become a longer grind if your enjoying it? instead of rushing through the same dam’n thing for hours… As far as i know “Grinding” means that you do the same thing over and over again…? am i wrong?

UgaBuga.6457:

Ive read it. And tbh, this list has to be one of the lamest excuses to try and get attention to the game. “Visit the monument to Killeen and pay your respects”
“Outrun a centaur” ……..

Can’t please everyone. The entire list isn’t gold, but consists of quite a bit of things to do.

Cezton.2415:

80 Things to Do At Level 80

Earn enough karma to purchase an exotic armor set
Complete all dungeons in explorable mode
Complete all 33 possible explorable mode dungeon paths
Earn enough dungeon tokens to purchase a set of armor
Experiment with new builds for your profession
Create a Mystic weapon in the Mystic Forge
Craft a legendary weapon in the Mystic Forge
Create or purchase a full set of 20 slot bags
Participate in structured PvP
Raise your sPvP rank
Achieve the rank of Ascendant in sPvP
Earn all sPvP titles
Complete the current Monthly achievements
Help your guild earn influence to unlock additional perks
Participate in World versus World
Help your world win in WvW
Defeat enough enemy players in WvW to complete the medal
Earn enough gold to purchase a Commander Tome
Learn the ins and outs of the Trading Post
Have fun!

I removed the useless fluff and this is what remains.
No need to thank me.

That list is garbage. It’s the worst list I’ve ever seen. It reads like a deluded fanboy trying way too hard. People should be embarrassed to refer to it.

Cezton.2415:

UgaBuga.6457:

Ive read it. And tbh, this list has to be one of the lamest excuses to try and get attention to the game. “Visit the monument to Killeen and pay your respects”
“Outrun a centaur” ……..

Can’t please everyone. The entire list isn’t gold, but consists of quite a bit of things to do.

Thats true. But yeah alot of the things are… well..

UgaBuga.6457:

riku.2091:

UgaBuga.6457:

Nageth.5648:

How would an increased time commitment decrease the feeling of dungeons being a grind?

Omfg, are you a Fanboy undercover or something?. why are u asking all these questions.

Isnt it obvious?

Yeah, I feel it just becomes a longer grind.

How can it become a longer grind if your enjoying it? instead of rushing through the same dam’n thing for hours… As far as i know “Grinding” means that you do the same thing over and over again…? am i wrong?

You think just because I’m spending more time on something, I’m enjoying it?

They’re increasing the number of tokens, so that will make the grind easier. They also said that the anti-speedrun fix is bugged and they are working to fix it. So when it comes to the situation around dungeons, it’s probably best to see what they do to address it — because they have already said they are working on a fix.

I hit 80 a few weeks ago and each day I run into the problem of not having enough hours in the day to do all the things I want to do.

Silvard.3469:

That list is garbage. It’s the worst list I’ve ever seen. It reads like a deluded fanboy trying way too hard. People should be embarrassed to refer to it.

Those kinds of list started popping up shortly before SWTOR began losing it’s playerbase.
The fanboys use them to feel that their 5 years of hype were valid.

riku.2091:

UgaBuga.6457:

riku.2091:

UgaBuga.6457:

Nageth.5648:

How would an increased time commitment decrease the feeling of dungeons being a grind?

Omfg, are you a Fanboy undercover or something?. why are u asking all these questions.

Isnt it obvious?

Yeah, I feel it just becomes a longer grind.

How can it become a longer grind if your enjoying it? instead of rushing through the same dam’n thing for hours… As far as i know “Grinding” means that you do the same thing over and over again…? am i wrong?

You think just because I’m spending more time on something, I’m enjoying it?

So what your telling me is, that you dont like GW2? Cos GW2 is a game that takes long to accomplish something

UgaBuga.6457:

Am i the only one, beginning to get a bit bored with GW2?

First of all. No i didnt rush to lvl 80. I came lvl 80 this thursday.

Now that im 80, i just really dont know what to do.
Sure i could “grind” dungeons for tokens to buy gear. But dungeons just isnt that fun.
Exploring areas is alright, until youve done done it for a while, then its kinda lame aswell.
PvP is cool, but doing the same gamemode over and over again is just boring.
There isnt really anything to achieve in this game, if you know what i mean.

ArenaNet doesnt seem to give any news or updates, on what they are working on.
Sure they say once in a while what they have “fixed” but nothing else.
It may be because its F2P, that, thats their excuse. But im telling you guys, this game will soon be losing players, alot of players, if ArenaNet doesnt soon give us some “News”.

Please GW2 Fanboys, dont get all mad. It can be that its only me, and that maybe MMO’s are just losing my interest, or i dunno.

What do you guys think?

Your absolutely correct, there is nothing to do at level cap, its not just you. This game is hemorrhaging players rapidly.

@ Razamis.. sure that must be the reason I´m still transfered to overflow servers and there is still a long que for wvw… and there is over a hundred guildies on every night.

Game is hemorraging players.. my kitten

Thank god I’m a title/achievement hunter.

And that I like crafting…and WvW…

There’s plenty to DO. Just people need different incentives. I love achievement scores/trophies. Some people really just want better stats and will do nearly anything for them.

Also, I recommend that if you are feeling bored…take a break It’s ok, the game will still be here when you get back.

Can’t wait for tomorrow’s patch.

Athaulf.1530:

@ Razamis.. sure that must be the reason I´m still transfered to overflow servers and there is still a long que for wvw… and there is over a hundred guildies on every night.

Game is hemorraging players.. my kitten

Please, dont be fanboyish… The only place you are in overflow is in Lions Arch, because its the “main city”. And no… there may be a queue for wvw, but its not long. not as it used to be. So please come back with a valid augument… The game may not be losing alot of players now, but it will happen soon, if game continues like this. It will go the same way as SWTOR.

Here is a basic fact with all forms of entertainment. Everything comes to an end and nothing lasts forever. Eventually any game gets boring it depends on the person on how long that takes. There are things to do at 80 like world verse world but yes most of the fun was getting to that point and the game being new does not have tons of end game content. So I mean not much else to say with these kinds of posts. Go play something else I guess if your bored until more stuff gets added?

juiceman.2870:

Here is a basic fact with all forms of entertainment. Everything comes to an end and nothing lasts forever. Eventually any game gets boring it depends on the person on how long that takes. There are things to do at 80 like world verse world but yes most of the fun was getting to that point and the game being new does not have tons of end game content. So I mean not much else to say with these kinds of posts. Go play something else I guess if your bored until more stuff gets added?

The whole game is the endgame, there will never be something that’s different from what’s in the game now that you can only do once you stop leveling.

juiceman.2870:

Here is a basic fact with all forms of entertainment. Everything comes to an end and nothing lasts forever. Eventually any game gets boring it depends on the person on how long that takes. There are things to do at 80 like world verse world but yes most of the fun was getting to that point and the game being new does not have tons of end game content. So I mean not much else to say with these kinds of posts. Go play something else I guess if your bored until more stuff gets added?

You’re completely right sir. its sad :/

Could we please get rid of that *i don´t like what he says so he´s a fanboy * nonsense?
I play on Riverside Eu.. I get Overflows a lot and not only in Lions arch and i regulary have more then 100 guildies on. I Do have long ques for wvw and no you don´t know the future. And if you really think this game will go the same way as swtor.. well I will call that nonsense.

UgaBuga.6457:

Nageth.5648:

How would an increased time commitment decrease the feeling of dungeons being a grind?

Omfg, are you a Fanboy undercover or something?. why are u asking all these questions.

Isnt it obvious?

Ah, personal attacks. So your argument is “do this because shut up thats why”? Thank you for clarifying that.

I’m not pro GW2, WoW, ToR, Rift, Tabula Rasa, Glitch, etc… I’m pro having a coherent argument that has thought out reasoning. I was trying to find out what your reasoning was and you showed you have none.

Athaulf.1530:

Could we please get rid of that *i don´t like what he says so he´s a fanboy * nonsense?
I play on Riverside Eu.. I get Overflows a lot and not only in Lions arch and i regulary have more then 100 guildies on. I Do have long ques for wvw and no you don´t know the future. And if you really think this game will go the same way as swtor.. well I will call that nonsense.

It has nothing to do with not agreeing with me. The point is you defend the game, even though you know what your saying isnt true.
Your playing on a “HIGH” populated server. Im on Gandara, which was extremly popular on release, now players has either quit or transferred, i doubt they have transferred.

Athaulf.1530:

Could we please get rid of that *i don´t like what he says so he´s a fanboy * nonsense?

QFT

It seems to be a response when they can’t think of an argument to refute the others point.

Anyway, the game isn’t going to appeal to everyone. Anet even said that this is a drop in and play type of game, it’s not designed to occupy your whole playing life. Just don’t play for a period of time and then come back later, or if you really just don’t like the game then that’s ok too, plenty of other games out there.

Nageth.5648:

UgaBuga.6457:

Nageth.5648:

How would an increased time commitment decrease the feeling of dungeons being a grind?

Omfg, are you a Fanboy undercover or something?. why are u asking all these questions.

Isnt it obvious?

Ah, personal attacks. So your argument is “do this because shut up thats why”? Thank you for clarifying that.

I’m not pro GW2, WoW, ToR, Rift, Tabula Rasa, Glitch, etc… I’m pro having a coherent argument that has thought out reasoning. I was trying to find out what your reasoning was and you showed you have none.

You just edited your comment… Nice try, making me look bad…

Huh? I added a second paragraph to better explain my reasoning a second after the post. Are you saying you are now anti-reason?

Well actually Uga… Gandara is still a “High” populated server… strange isn´t it?

I havent got to 80 yet.. but find myself logging in less and less.. already..

Athaulf.1530:

Could we please get rid of that *i don´t like what he says so he´s a fanboy * nonsense?

Sure, if the people that are critical wont get called pandas.

Creeper.9360:

Anet even said that this is a drop in and play type of game, it’s not designed to occupy your whole playing life.

So it is not even a real RPG then?

Nageth.5648:

Huh? I added a second paragraph to better explain my reasoning a second after the post. Are you saying you are now anti-reason?

Sorry, i read the wrong comment

It will go the same way as SWTOR.

Hardly as SWTOR has a monthly fee this game doesn’t. So more players will stick with this game as it advances than pay $15 a month for a fail game like SWTOR. Guild Wars survives because of no monthly fees. Same with this game.

Ang.2157:

Creeper.9360:

Anet even said that this is a drop in and play type of game, it’s not designed to occupy your whole playing life.

So it is not even a real RPG then?

What’s a “real” RPG?

ravinhood.3981:

It will go the same way as SWTOR.

Hardly as SWTOR has a monthly fee this game doesn’t. So more players will stick with this game as it advances than pay $15 a month for a fail game like SWTOR. Guild Wars survives because of no monthly fees. Same with this game.

How will it survive, if its boring?
The problem with SWTOR wasnt that you had to pay fee.
Look at WoW for example.
People dont see the monthly fee they pay, they dont care if the game is good.
SWTOR wasnt, or it was, but i lacked updates and fixes.
GW2 is heading the same direction.

Creeper.9360:

Ang.2157:

Creeper.9360:

Anet even said that this is a drop in and play type of game, it’s not designed to occupy your whole playing life.

So it is not even a real RPG then?

What’s a “real” RPG?

Character progression.
Repetition.
Creativity.
Dedication to your main.

My ideal MMORPG would be like this:

Fantasy setting.
Very slow leveling curve.
Complexity like EvE Online.
Sandboxy like SWG.
Only one character allowed.
Trinity.
Semi permadeath.
Distinct classes with a set role.
Racial bonuses suchkitten damage for orcs etc.
Longevity.