Guild Wars 2

Since Halloween is comming back, i hope the Ghastly Grinning Shield will be now also come back. Almost every skin came back in this or that way but not the Grinning Shield.

I was also expecting that the Vampiric Dragon Sword from GW1 would come into GW2 but well it wont like the current situation shows us.

Since someone posted a datamined picture on Reddit, with Halloween skins I am on standby. Now please Anet we’ve been asking for them since forever. So do it and take my money please.

P.S.
Thx for bringing the Clockwork Tower for a second time last year. So please do so again but not gloves as a reward again.

I vote leave it and don’t bring it back.

I want that skin SO BAD but I’m glad it’s so rare and unattainable. Much like the festivals in GW1…you were there and had a chance to get it or you weren’t. I wasn’t.

Don’t cheapen it Anet. Release a variant maybe but I’d hate to see yet another reward cheapened by a festival and gifted to the masses in hind-sight a year or two later.

They will bring it back.

fireflyry.7023:

I vote leave it and don’t bring it back.

I want that skin SO BAD but I’m glad it’s so rare and unattainable. Much like the festivals in GW1…you were there and had a chance to get it or you weren’t. I wasn’t.

Don’t cheapen it Anet. Release a variant maybe but I’d hate to see yet another reward cheapened by a festival and gifted to the masses in hind-sight a year or two later.

Why the hell not?!

Etien.4601:

fireflyry.7023:

I vote leave it and don’t bring it back.

I want that skin SO BAD but I’m glad it’s so rare and unattainable. Much like the festivals in GW1…you were there and had a chance to get it or you weren’t. I wasn’t.

Don’t cheapen it Anet. Release a variant maybe but I’d hate to see yet another reward cheapened by a festival and gifted to the masses in hind-sight a year or two later.

Why the hell not?!

Exclusivity is serious business, especially when all it required was you being in a specific place at a specific time.

Wrong.

It’s just cool to see once in a while. This game is glowstick enough as it is with threads asking for easier mapping, mats, etc, etc. For every reward in this game there seems to a thread of QQ wanting the same reward for free. Festival rewards should be exclusive, or at the least ridiculously expensive. I’d prefer just exclusive.

If you are not at that festival you should miss out. Thats the whole point. Always has been. Dragon Helm ftw :P

fireflyry.7023:

Wrong.

It’s just cool to see once in a while. This game is glowstick enough as it is with threads asking for easier mapping, mats, etc, etc. For every reward in this game there seems to a thread of QQ wanting the same reward for free. Festival rewards should be exclusive, or at the lease ridiculously expensive.

If you are not at that festival you should miss out. Thats the whole point. Always has been.

While I do not agree that an item should be flat unobtainable for missing a specific event, I do agree that a ridiculous alternate means of getting said item should exist, notwithstanding outrageous BL prices.

I think ANet had, and then threw away, the perfect opportunity to please (almost) everyone with the Fervid Censer/Desert Rose skins. The Fervid Censer was exclusive, and the Desert Rose wasn’t. Both were equally cool, so people who were at the event had a special reward, but everyone still got the chance for the same type of skin.

The same with The Fiery Dragon Sword, and Jormag’s Breath. Both equally cool, one is exclusive, one isn’t. Everyone is rewarded.

I’m hoping that if and when they rerelease the Mad Memoires (and to a lesser extent the Ghastly shield) they change the flame/grin colour. I do think everyone should be able to get something of equal quality in the same style, but that the game sorely needs rewards for loyalty/skill/persistence etc. This is why the SAB skins were so good. Anyone can get the blue version, which means no one loses out, but the green and yellow versions have a sense of “been there done that”.

I still say your there and get a chance to get it or too bad too sad you missed out. Me included. I’ll more than likely miss the whole festival due to work so will miss out this time too.

I mean legendaries are pretty much defined by the community as “omfg takes forever!!!” and yet every second character is running around with one. Same with pretty much every “rare” item in the game. It’s a 90’s rave gone wrong.

Surely something can remain sacred and untouched from being garnered by the masses. It’s one of the few items I see and take the time to admire, specifically due to it’s uniqueness. Why cheapen that?

CrashTestAuto.9108:

I think ANet had, and then threw away, the perfect opportunity to please (almost) everyone with the Fervid Censer/Desert Rose skins. The Fervid Censer was exclusive, and the Desert Rose wasn’t. Both were equally cool, so people who were at the event had a special reward, but everyone still got the chance for the same type of skin.

The same with The Fiery Dragon Sword, and Jormag’s Breath. Both equally cool, one is exclusive, one isn’t. Everyone is rewarded.

I’m hoping that if and when they rerelease the Mad Memoires (and to a lesser extent the Ghastly shield) they change the flame/grin colour. I do think everyone should be able to get something of equal quality in the same style, but that the game sorely needs rewards for loyalty/skill/persistence etc. This is why the SAB skins were so good. Anyone can get the blue version, which means no one loses out, but the green and yellow versions have a sense of “been there done that”.

I’m fine with this ^ . If the halloween skins have been modified to maintain the older versions for the players that attended the event, that would be acceptable.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

CrashTestAuto.9108:

I think ANet had, and then threw away, the perfect opportunity to please (almost) everyone with the Fervid Censer/Desert Rose skins. The Fervid Censer was exclusive, and the Desert Rose wasn’t. Both were equally cool, so people who were at the event had a special reward, but everyone still got the chance for the same type of skin.

The same with The Fiery Dragon Sword, and Jormag’s Breath. Both equally cool, one is exclusive, one isn’t. Everyone is rewarded.

I’m hoping that if and when they rerelease the Mad Memoires (and to a lesser extent the Ghastly shield) they change the flame/grin colour. I do think everyone should be able to get something of equal quality in the same style, but that the game sorely needs rewards for loyalty/skill/persistence etc. This is why the SAB skins were so good. Anyone can get the blue version, which means no one loses out, but the green and yellow versions have a sense of “been there done that”.

I’m fine with this ^ . If the halloween skins have been modified to maintain the older versions for the players that attended the event, that would be acceptable.

Completely agree, though I doubt it will happen. Seems the people interested in these types of things have either left or been bullied into other views.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Etien.4601:

fireflyry.7023:

I vote leave it and don’t bring it back.

I want that skin SO BAD but I’m glad it’s so rare and unattainable. Much like the festivals in GW1…you were there and had a chance to get it or you weren’t. I wasn’t.

Don’t cheapen it Anet. Release a variant maybe but I’d hate to see yet another reward cheapened by a festival and gifted to the masses in hind-sight a year or two later.

Why the hell not?!

Exclusivity is serious business, especially when all it required was you being in a specific place at a specific time.

Ugh, I had so many issues with people in League Of Legends because of things like this. They brought back some “Exclusive Holiday Skins” and sold them after they had been retired for two or three years, and half the player base had an aneurysm over it.

I was happy, because I got my favorite skin for one of my favorite characters in the game, because they brought it back. It bothers me why so many people have a problem with someone else getting something they already have. Why do you want exclusivity so bad? You got something awesome, why don’t you want other people to be as happy as you about being able to get it?

If you want exclusivity and prestige, pick a skin that is actually exclusive and requires something beyond dollars/euros or gold. If it can be bought with gems or gold, it will never amount to anything beyond a gold deposit. Period.

If they dont bring it back it will skyrocket again. A lot of people are waiting before they consider investing in one.

I think everyone should be able to get the skins and other cosmetic items they want. It doesn’t have to be cheap or easy, but it should be possible.

Especially when it’s something like this. It doesn’t work as proof that you were playing at a particular time when it’s sold on the gem store. If they’re willing to someone could buy the game today, convert a bunch of gems to gold and get that shield. As far as anyone else in the game knows the only thing it’s proof of is that you once had a lot of gold.

All of which means it makes much more sense to treat it as simply a skin and buy or use it based entirely on whether you like it or not instead of worrying about how many other people have the same one or what you imagine they might think if they notice you have it.

fireflyry.7023:

I vote leave it and don’t bring it back.

I want that skin SO BAD but I’m glad it’s so rare and unattainable. Much like the festivals in GW1…you were there and had a chance to get it or you weren’t. I wasn’t.

Don’t cheapen it Anet. Release a variant maybe but I’d hate to see yet another reward cheapened by a festival and gifted to the masses in hind-sight a year or two later.

FINALLY! someone else gets it!
items are only special when they’re…special.
its the reason noone reacts to legendaries anymore, because you could go to one of the cities and see a dozen people waving twilight around.

imho this game needs more one-time-only rewards, it adds reason to play and a feeling of prestige and reward.

Rising Dusk.2408:

If you want exclusivity and prestige, pick a skin that is actually exclusive and requires something beyond dollars/euros or gold. If it can be bought with gems or gold, it will never amount to anything beyond a gold deposit.

except it will, there was only a limited amount obtained 2 years ago and one by one they have left the market, there are only 18 greatsaws left on the market and when they’re gone thats it.

hundreds of thousands of players…
18 greatsaws.
they are very prestigious.

I bet a lot more than 18 greatsaws are waiting on accounts waiting to be placed on the market or be rediscovered by their owners who left the game long ago.

Liewec.2896:

imho this game needs more one-time-only rewards, it adds reason to play and a feeling of prestige and reward.

So, since you’re the one that said it, I’ll ask you directly. I already posted it earlier in this thread, but why does it matter to you if someone else can get access to a skin they want? What benefit do you personally get out of denying someone something that would make them happy? It’s just a skin. It’s a bunch of pixels grouped together to look like a thing. You wanted it, and you have it, so what do you care who else can have it?

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418:

Liewec.2896:

imho this game needs more one-time-only rewards, it adds reason to play and a feeling of prestige and reward.

So, since you’re the one that said it, I’ll ask you directly. I already posted it earlier in this thread, but why does it matter to you if someone else can get access to a skin they want? What benefit do you personally get out of denying someone something that would make them happy? It’s just a skin. It’s a bunch of pixels grouped together to look like a thing. You wanted it, and you have it, so what do you care who else can have it?

MMOs are about the special snowflake feeling. You cant feel special if everyone can easily look/be the same.

Malediktus.9250:

MMOs are about the special snowflake feeling. You cant feel special if everyone can easily look/be the same.

I’ve never understood why people care about being unique from other players. You shouldn’t need validation from others to be happy. Besides, with so many different skins in the game, coupled with dyes, titles and minipets, it’s not that hard to make yourself a unique appearance, if that’s what you really care about.

Anyway, back on the original topic, I wouldn’t rule out the original Halloween items returning. ANet has shown on numerous occasions now that we should never, EVER assume that a previously exclusive item is never coming back. (Btw, did you guys know that all the stuff like the Fervid Censer and the Dragon Helm that was exclusive to LS1 rewards can be bought from the Laurel Vendors?)

Etien.4601:

fireflyry.7023:

I vote leave it and don’t bring it back.

I want that skin SO BAD but I’m glad it’s so rare and unattainable. Much like the festivals in GW1…you were there and had a chance to get it or you weren’t. I wasn’t.

Don’t cheapen it Anet. Release a variant maybe but I’d hate to see yet another reward cheapened by a festival and gifted to the masses in hind-sight a year or two later.

Why the hell not?!

i hate when they re release skins, i want unobtainable items with PRESTIGE

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Etien.4601:

fireflyry.7023:

I vote leave it and don’t bring it back.

I want that skin SO BAD but I’m glad it’s so rare and unattainable. Much like the festivals in GW1…you were there and had a chance to get it or you weren’t. I wasn’t.

Don’t cheapen it Anet. Release a variant maybe but I’d hate to see yet another reward cheapened by a festival and gifted to the masses in hind-sight a year or two later.

Why the hell not?!

Exclusivity is serious business, especially when all it required was you being in a specific place at a specific time.

Exclusivity is overrated. I wouldn’t care if all my valuable items reduce to 15 copper if it means that my collections expands even further and the entire playerbase isn’t wearing glitter here and there.

Zaxares.5419:

I’ve never understood why people care about being unique from other players. You shouldn’t need validation from others to be happy. Besides, with so many different skins in the game, coupled with dyes, titles and minipets, it’s not that hard to make yourself a unique appearance, if that’s what you really care about.

Anyway, back on the original topic, I wouldn’t rule out the original Halloween items returning. ANet has shown on numerous occasions now that we should never, EVER assume that a previously exclusive item is never coming back. (Btw, did you guys know that all the stuff like the Fervid Censer and the Dragon Helm that was exclusive to LS1 rewards can be bought from the Laurel Vendors?)

The point of exclusivity isn’t that “others don’t have it”, it’s that “I earned this”. Currently there are so few skins in the game that have any meaning whatsoever other than “I grinded/bought gold”. Dungeon tokens are incredibly easy to get. Fractal skins are RNG. SAB has been turned off indefinitely…

While I prefer skill as a means of giving this (e.g. if Liadri was a permanent feature), basic loyalty is about all we can currently hope for. The Fervid Censer wasn’t difficult to get, but it at least had a slight semblance of meaning (and, as I said, the Desert Rose meant that it did so without others missing out).

Too bad they ruined S1 rewards by putting them for 25 laurels + 15 gold each to laurel vendor lol

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418:

You got something awesome, why don’t you want other people to be as happy as you about being able to get it?

To be special, to have a way of showing people “I’ve been playing this game since release”

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418:

why does it matter to you if someone else can get access to a skin they want? What benefit do you personally get out of denying someone something that would make them happy? It’s just a skin. It’s a bunch of pixels grouped together to look like a thing. You wanted it, and you have it, so what do you care who else can have it?

On items in general not specifically the shield:

There are many reasons.
-To stand out. I like my current look but, if tomorrow I came onto a map and found 5 people with an identical look to me I would change it in an instant. I want to look unique if someones running past on a map I’d like to think they’d be able to identify me instantly without seeing my nametag.

-Prestige, maybe you don’t believe it but every single item you wear makes a statement from an in game perspective its not just about looking pretty what you wear should be a testament to your skill and mastery within the game, if you are genuinely bad at a game you should have far less skins to choose from as opposed to the person who can do everything blindfolded.

-Rarity, people don’t seem to understand that a rare item is not an item 100 people want but the 10 that actually try to get it all get it , it is an item 100 people want, 10 people try their best to get but only 2 people actually ends up with it.

-To show your mastery of the game, I’ve been playing this series for a decade, I’ve logged god knows how many hours and I know I’ve played more effectively and with greater skill that a significant amount of the player-base. I don’t think it’s unfair for there to be items that johnny new guy can’t get that show I have been here longer and accomplished more than they ever will.

Lastly this is not a dress up game, I don’t care how much you’d love to have x item or y mini if you are incapable of completing the content or it was an event item you should not have it. It was not a reward for you move on, there will always be more items. Treat the entire game as a competitive environment where every player is your opponent that you compete against for rewards and you’ll have a much easier time.

That all said in respect to the shield skin just go and get it if you really want it, it is available on the TP go make the gold for it , non-abusing the TP I’d estimate it would take someone trying ~100 hours but if you really want it there is a clear path to it.

Sure hope they’ll release the Greatsaw again. Going to get it. Going to get it so hard.

I can’t speak for anyone else but what impresses me isn’t a rare or expensive item but a good combination of items and dyes.

You could have the rarest, most expensive, hardest to obtain items in the game but if they make you look like a complete mess then it’s not impressive. On the other hand you could be using low-level crafted gear, common dyes and loot weapons skins but if you put them together in a way that works, with a distinctive theme, it can look amazing.

Danikat.8537:

I can’t speak for anyone else but what impresses me isn’t a rare or expensive item but a good combination of items and dyes.

You could have the rarest, most expensive, hardest to obtain items in the game but if they make you look like a complete mess then it’s not impressive. On the other hand you could be using low-level crafted gear, common dyes and loot weapons skins but if you put them together in a way that works, with a distinctive theme, it can look amazing.

I agree with this.

I also agree that some people feel like they have garnered some measure of prestige or exclusivity by… well… being in a certain place at a certain time, then I have no reason to take that away from them.

I’m far more impressed with ingenuity/clever usage of existing gear/new spins on items people thought tacky or silly rather than someone running around with [+1 sword of hard-to-get].

saw a greatsaw in WvW. It was neat. <3
saw a good dye job in the mists. It was outstanding.

If you have both aesthetic cunning and a unique item that works with what you’ve put together, then you can usually expect a congratulatory/fawning mail from me.

CrashTestAuto.9108:

I think ANet had, and then threw away, the perfect opportunity to please (almost) everyone with the Fervid Censer/Desert Rose skins. The Fervid Censer was exclusive, and the Desert Rose wasn’t. Both were equally cool, so people who were at the event had a special reward, but everyone still got the chance for the same type of skin.

The same with The Fiery Dragon Sword, and Jormag’s Breath. Both equally cool, one is exclusive, one isn’t. Everyone is rewarded.

I’m hoping that if and when they rerelease the Mad Memoires (and to a lesser extent the Ghastly shield) they change the flame/grin colour. I do think everyone should be able to get something of equal quality in the same style, but that the game sorely needs rewards for loyalty/skill/persistence etc. This is why the SAB skins were so good. Anyone can get the blue version, which means no one loses out, but the green and yellow versions have a sense of “been there done that”.

I like this. Everyone gets the skin and there is still an exclusivity of being at the event itself. Heck, you don’t even have to have been at the event. The items in question by the OP are available for purchase on the BLTC.

Iason Evan.3806:

CrashTestAuto.9108:

I think ANet had, and then threw away, the perfect opportunity to please (almost) everyone with the Fervid Censer/Desert Rose skins. The Fervid Censer was exclusive, and the Desert Rose wasn’t. Both were equally cool, so people who were at the event had a special reward, but everyone still got the chance for the same type of skin.

The same with The Fiery Dragon Sword, and Jormag’s Breath. Both equally cool, one is exclusive, one isn’t. Everyone is rewarded.

I’m hoping that if and when they rerelease the Mad Memoires (and to a lesser extent the Ghastly shield) they change the flame/grin colour. I do think everyone should be able to get something of equal quality in the same style, but that the game sorely needs rewards for loyalty/skill/persistence etc. This is why the SAB skins were so good. Anyone can get the blue version, which means no one loses out, but the green and yellow versions have a sense of “been there done that”.

I like this. Everyone gets the skin and there is still an exclusivity of being at the event itself. Heck, you don’t even have to have been at the event. The items in question by the OP are available for purchase on the BLTC.

That only draws question to how “exclusive” the items really are.

throw enough money at the game and you can get anything you want.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Iason Evan.3806:

CrashTestAuto.9108:

I think ANet had, and then threw away, the perfect opportunity to please (almost) everyone with the Fervid Censer/Desert Rose skins. The Fervid Censer was exclusive, and the Desert Rose wasn’t. Both were equally cool, so people who were at the event had a special reward, but everyone still got the chance for the same type of skin.

The same with The Fiery Dragon Sword, and Jormag’s Breath. Both equally cool, one is exclusive, one isn’t. Everyone is rewarded.

I’m hoping that if and when they rerelease the Mad Memoires (and to a lesser extent the Ghastly shield) they change the flame/grin colour. I do think everyone should be able to get something of equal quality in the same style, but that the game sorely needs rewards for loyalty/skill/persistence etc. This is why the SAB skins were so good. Anyone can get the blue version, which means no one loses out, but the green and yellow versions have a sense of “been there done that”.

I like this. Everyone gets the skin and there is still an exclusivity of being at the event itself. Heck, you don’t even have to have been at the event. The items in question by the OP are available for purchase on the BLTC.

That only draws question to how “exclusive” the items really are.

throw enough money at the game and you can get anything you want.

You move on to rarity then, if you re-release the item more of them will exist decreasing its rarity and value as an item. While I hate the fact that the TP is so overused in this game it doesn’t change the fact that a fixed number of the item currently exist meaning that it has a fixed rarity.

kokiman.2364:

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418:

You got something awesome, why don’t you want other people to be as happy as you about being able to get it?

To be special, to have a way of showing people “I’ve been playing this game since release”

Right, but as many people have said already, a lot of the old items that are hard to get and that people find so “prestigious”? They’re on the auction house. Anybody can buy them with enough money, even if they only started playing yesterday.

Using weapons/armor skins as showing people that “i’ve been playing so long” is really stupid, especially when we already have exclusive titles for events that have long since ended. If you really wanna show off how long you’ve been playing the game, pop on your Hero Of Lion’s Arch title.

fireflyry.7023:

I want that skin SO BAD but I’m glad it’s so rare and unattainable. Much like the festivals in GW1…you were there and had a chance to get it or you weren’t. I wasn’t.

You likely missed the part where they did bring all those GW1 festival skins back.

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418:

Using weapons/armor skins as showing people that “i’ve been playing so long” is really stupid, especially when we already have exclusive titles for events that have long since ended. If you really wanna show off how long you’ve been playing the game, pop on your Hero Of Lion’s Arch title.

How do you want to allow people to show off then? exclusive titles alone are not enough it only allows you to show off one accomplishment meaning you’d have to choose between a prestige or a game time title its not something that grabs peoples attention.

How do you want to reward the top players? more of the same currency as bottom players is pretty useless as it leaves you indistinguishable from them.

Whats the reason for playing now as opposed to 10 years from now when all the original content has become even easier if there are no exclusive items?

I understand perfectly well that guildwars is trying a new angle but somethings should be kept and item exclusivity is one of them. It rewards people unambiguously for their efforts and creates a clear path for horizontally progressing your character. Plus situations where you walk past a person and stop for a second to go “oh wow that’s the doom shield I’ve only ever seen two of those kudos to that person they were only available from completing the super dungeon of 2016” is exactly what I want not “oh that’s the doom shield I’ll just open the TP and grab that too” which is happening to far too many skins.

Liewec.2896:

except it will, there was only a limited amount obtained 2 years ago and one by one they have left the market, there are only 18 greatsaws left on the market and when they’re gone thats it.

hundreds of thousands of players…
18 greatsaws.
they are very prestigious.

People said that last year too, when there were six on the market. They were wrong then, and they’ll be wrong now. Never underestimate the hidden supply of an item.

The existing shield that anet said it wouldn’t rerelease is green (masterwork)

What’s wrong with releasing an orange (exotic) version of the skin. Collectors can have their rare item, people who want the skin can have the skin.

…..

It is beyond stupid that everything but the S1 Halloween gemstore stuff gets rereleased.

Either rerelease stuff or don’t.

The items become somewhat less than prestigious when you consider the RNG involved and that they can be sold.

I have played GW2 since beta. I went through the original Mad King mini dungeon countless times and never got a skin drop. I went through the original karka attack on LA and all the events that followed. I never got one of the rare minis. I went through the molten and aetherblade dungeons over and over and never got a jetpack or mini.

In other words, all the items mean is that the player had gold at some point, not that they were at the event. I say bring them back and give us another shot at them, hopefully in a way that we can earn them rather than just roll the dice.

I gave up recently and bought a Super Greatsword skin. I’m pretty happy with it. Overall, though, the only time I’ve been happy with ArenaNet’s RNG have been, ironically, with dragon coffers. You got hundreds (or thousands) of the kitten things over the course of the the month. Most of my friends got at least one or two Dragon’s Jade skins.

Conski Deshan.2057:

Whats the reason for playing now as opposed to 10 years from now when all the original content has become even easier if there are no exclusive items?

While the majority of your post is completely detestable, I’d like to pick out this particular part to comment on.

Why do you play video games? Because it’s certainly not for the same reason as most of us here. I play a game because I think it’s FUN. I don’t give a kitten how old it is. I don’t care that people have played it first, beat it first, did everything there is possible to do first. What other people do or do not do has absolutely NO bearing over my personal sense of entertainment.

And seeing people like you, that apparently only get enjoyment out of lording their accomplishments over others? That’s twisted. I think you need to re-examine your life if your idea of fun is showing off to other people in an online game proof that “you were there first”, especially considering that is the only accomplishment being displayed by what you’re talking about.

Holographic Shattered Dragon Wings.

- Can’t be bought or sold.
- Only obtainable during one event period over a year ago.
- Event was expected to come back this year but did not due to LS2.
- Was not offered as a possible reward when the festival was brought back like many other previous event skins.
- Had a guildie once tell me he would trade me a Legendary if it was possible to get my wings.

*mic drop*

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

Holographic Shattered Dragon Wings.

- Can’t be bought or sold.
- Only obtainable during one event period over a year ago.
- Event was expected to come back this year but did not due to LS2.
- Was not offered as a possible reward when the festival was brought back like many other previous event skins.
- Had a guildie once tell me he would trade me a Legendary if it was possible to get my wings.

*mic drop*

…which side of the argument are you in favor of? I can’t tell. >.>

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418:

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

Holographic Shattered Dragon Wings.

- Can’t be bought or sold.
- Only obtainable during one event period over a year ago.
- Event was expected to come back this year but did not due to LS2.
- Was not offered as a possible reward when the festival was brought back like many other previous event skins.
- Had a guildie once tell me he would trade me a Legendary if it was possible to get my wings.

*mic drop*

…which side of the argument are you in favor of? I can’t tell. >.>

Neither? I’d be perfectly fine with everyone being able to get access to every skin, though, even if it costs a ton of gold or whatever. It should still be accessible if you missed an event because you had mono and ended up in a 2 week coma or just couldn’t play for whatever reason.

So I guess I’m with the non-exclusivity side. If someone has the gold or is willing to put in the time and effort to get skins that were previously available as one-time event items, it should be possible. I don’t play any PvP, and I do like some of the glorious armor pieces, but I’ll likely never get it. But the fact remains that it is available, one just has to be willing to put forth the effort to get it.

Well said! Thank you for the input.

kokiman.2364:

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418:

You got something awesome, why don’t you want other people to be as happy as you about being able to get it?

To be special, to have a way of showing people “I’ve been playing this game since release”

Yes….it’s quite “special”…..(snowflakes so shiny!)

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418:

Conski Deshan.2057:

Whats the reason for playing now as opposed to 10 years from now when all the original content has become even easier if there are no exclusive items?

While the majority of your post is completely detestable, I’d like to pick out this particular part to comment on.

Why do you play video games? Because it’s certainly not for the same reason as most of us here. I play a game because I think it’s FUN. I don’t give a kitten how old it is. I don’t care that people have played it first, beat it first, did everything there is possible to do first. What other people do or do not do has absolutely NO bearing over my personal sense of entertainment.

And seeing people like you, that apparently only get enjoyment out of lording their accomplishments over others? That’s twisted. I think you need to re-examine your life if your idea of fun is showing off to other people in an online game proof that “you were there first”, especially considering that is the only accomplishment being displayed by what you’re talking about.

I primarily play single-player games for the challenge and story and for fun. For instance last week I finished off all the side missions in Metro2034 in ranger hardcore mode and spent a fair amount of time attempting to beat a cheating AI (not accusing it, it is literally an AI designed to cheat to win) using only turtle tactics in Supreme commander 2.
In an MMO game I play for the story and to see how much of the population I can beat in PvE
I’m not sure why you find it detestable, you should generally consider an MMO game to be a competitive environment where indirectly or directly the objective is to out do the other players and be rewarded for it.

You are colouring competition in a negative light for no apparent reason, I compete against every member of my guild. We always try to out do each other it’s not in a negative way it makes everyone work that bit harder and stay on their game and they have fun.

If you consider an MMO like any other hobby it’s perfectly fair, you pit your skills against other players, if you win you get a trophy, no one else will ever have that specific trophy because you have the 2014 hobby trophy. But there will always be more trophies, the 2015 trophy etc. The fact the trophies are virtual or a visual item within the game is irrelevant, you wouldn’t demand or get your own ryder cup so why demand Holographic Shattered Dragon Wings or any other exclusive item.

I’m sorry, but I don’t consider an MMO to be competitive, unless you’re playing for the PvP or WvW. Getting some kind of enjoyment out of finding competitiveness in PvE completely defeats the purpose of it. PvE is the COMMUNAL part of the game, the part where you’re supposed to play together and advance as a team, not see how much “better” you can be than the other people you’re playing with.

MMO’s are meant to be social games. By taking stances like the ones you are, you’re essentially spitting on others you don’t deem worthy enough, and showing how “inferior” they are for not getting one thing you just happened to be in the right place at the right time to get. It’s kittening ridiculous.

Remember, we’re NOT talking about items that are skill-based or dedication-based to receive. We’re talking about items you only got because you were there. There’s not even anything competitive about that anyway.

ShadowDragoonFTW.3418:

I’m sorry, but I don’t consider an MMO to be competitive, unless you’re playing for the PvP or WvW. Getting some kind of enjoyment out of finding competitiveness in PvE completely defeats the purpose of it. PvE is the COMMUNAL part of the game, the part where you’re supposed to play together and advance as a team, not see how much “better” you can be than the other people you’re playing with.

MMO’s are meant to be social games. By taking stances like the ones you are, you’re essentially spitting on others you don’t deem worthy enough, and showing how “inferior” they are for not getting one thing you just happened to be in the right place at the right time to get. It’s kittening ridiculous.

Remember, we’re NOT talking about items that are skill-based or dedication-based to receive. We’re talking about items you only got because you were there. There’s not even anything competitive about that anyway.

The holographic wings were for a meta completion and the Shield is just a rare item. I support rarity and exclusivity in addition to skill based and dedication based rewards, I generally support anything that makes items harder to get because I believe GW2 is suffering from extreme rewards dilution (just look at the insane number of legendary weapons).

This aside, this is the way EVERY MMO has worked so my way of thinking is not exactly an outlier. You would struggle to find examples of MMO’s without a plethora of exclusive items/event only items even GW1 had the festival items,CE items, some minis and the Coca-cola promotion items. (I am aware they re-released some of the festival items but do remember that was met with outrage at the devaluing of the rewards).

I’m stopping this discussion now because we have diametrically opposed views and will never agree, I think the rarer something is the better, you appear to want everyone to have access to everything which in my opinion would turn it into nothing more than a glorified dress up game.

I don’t want everyone to automatically have access to everything. I’m perfectly fine with having items gated off by skill. But saying “You can’t get this item anymore because they removed the way you can acquire it” is absolute bullkitten to me. There’s absolutely no reason to deny someone else the same ability as you had to get an item, just because they weren’t there at the time.

That’s my problem, and you’re beating around the bush as hard as you possibly can about that.