Guild Wars 2

What is this? A positive/appreciation thread? You sir just broke the forums. lol

Nice to see this kind of post once in a while..

It’s good you love the game, there is a lot to like, thou i don’t consider it a sequel to gw1 as it’s not much like the original.

Somethings i love, somethings i want to draw all over the devs pc in frustration with, but i do have fun.

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

Any particular reason?

I’m not saying the game is perfect, but it’s certainly not the mess a lot of people (even regulars on these forums I notice) seem to think it is. It’s another way for an mmo to operate, and based on everything else I’ve tried, it’s the most feature packed an intricate I’ve seen.

Ren.5842:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

Any particular reason?

I’m not saying the game is perfect, but it’s certainly not the mess a lot of people (even regulars on these forums I notice) seem to think it is. It’s another way for an mmo to operate, and based on everything else I’ve tried, it’s the most feature packed an intricate I’ve seen.

The blaring obvious lack of updated permanent content will render all the intricate fluff meaningless.

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Ren.5842:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

Any particular reason?

I’m not saying the game is perfect, but it’s certainly not the mess a lot of people (even regulars on these forums I notice) seem to think it is. It’s another way for an mmo to operate, and based on everything else I’ve tried, it’s the most feature packed an intricate I’ve seen.

Don’t listen to the haters, the forum is filled with them yet they still log on the game or at last the forums…people love to complain when they have nothing better to do.

Great post, you are right the game is great, nice to read something positive for a change. Enjoy!

As clean as the UI is I would still love to be able to customize it. I mean I have been playing with the same skills for a year. Pretty sure I know what they are. Can I go ahead and turn that part of the UI off? I haven’t done a quest on purpose in months. Love to turn it off. Love to Hide the menu bar. But even if I could do none of that I would love to be able to scale parts of or all of the UI so I can at least make a bunch of that stuff smaller.

The UI to me is a pretty good example of how I often end up feeling about the game. It is well designed and presented well and makes me think awesome!! But after a while of using it, I scratch my head at how limited it appears to be. And go from thinking this is the best, to eh, it is alright.

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Jakkson.4076:

Don’t listen to the haters, the forum is filled with them yet they still log on the game or at last the forums

Very hypocritical signature my friend.

Flissy.4093:

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Quite a few people have been playing since launch. Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. You just don’t like it, and you know…that’s okay.

It’s when people start trying to make their opinion into fact that the problem starts.

I like this game so the game is good for me. You don’t like this game so the game is bad for you.

Neither of us is right. But you shouldn’t assume the OP won’t like it in two weeks, because there are people playing since beta 1 who still like it.

Ren.5842:

Just wanted to stop by and say, well, I’m loving Guild Wars 2!

This weekend I’m supposed to be in a beta stress test for another game which shall remain nameless, but playing that for a few hours last night made me realise just how much this game has compared to all other mmos!

Oddly enough, I’m doing the same thing this weekend... but after a few hours last night, I think I’ll be back in Tyria today.

Vayne.8563:

Flissy.4093:

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Quite a few people have been playing since launch. Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. You just don’t like it, and you know…that’s okay.

It’s when people start trying to make their opinion into fact that the problem starts.

I like this game so the game is good for me. You don’t like this game so the game is bad for you.

Neither of us is right. But you shouldn’t assume the OP won’t like it in two weeks, because there are people playing since beta 1 who still like it.

I like the game. I still play many hours a day. That doesn’t make the direction the game is going good, it’s just the stuff from launch/shortly after is still interesting to me.

MMOs should never have been designed to cater to people who work 9-5 and play 1 hour a day around a family life.

Ceridwen.6703:

Ren.5842:

Just wanted to stop by and say, well, I’m loving Guild Wars 2!

This weekend I’m supposed to be in a beta stress test for another game which shall remain nameless, but playing that for a few hours last night made me realise just how much this game has compared to all other mmos!

Oddly enough, I’m doing the same thing this weekend… but after a few hours last night, I think I’ll be back in Tyria today.

I had a beta invite from another big name game and I’ve been trying it out. It’s not bad….it’s pedestrian. They have a whole lot of work to do before it’s half the game that Guild Wars 2 is.

Flissy.4093:

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Maybe some of the problems – like my own issues with lack of mounts or consumable UI slot, are a matter of taste or opinion? Maybe some people just don’t see your problems as being as much of an issue themselve, or maybe some people are just more optimistic

I have read a few posts which seem to state that more permanent content is coming this year – all players mind you, no devs. How much of the content released last year was permanent? I know the bulk of it was temporary but wondering how the permanent content volume stacks up against other mmos out there?

PS – Another thing I would love to see is an expansion, although I know it might be ways off yet!

Jakkson.4076:

Ren.5842:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

Any particular reason?

I’m not saying the game is perfect, but it’s certainly not the mess a lot of people (even regulars on these forums I notice) seem to think it is. It’s another way for an mmo to operate, and based on everything else I’ve tried, it’s the most feature packed an intricate I’ve seen.

Don’t listen to the haters, the forum is filled with them yet they still log on the game or at last the forums…people love to complain when they have nothing better to do.

Great post, you are right the game is great, nice to read something positive for a change. Enjoy!

Dat signature though….

Ren.5842:

Maybe some of the problems – like my own issues with lack of mounts or consumable UI slot, are a matter of taste or opinion? Maybe some people just don’t see your problems as being as much of an issue themselve, or maybe some people are just more optimistic

It’s practically an objective remark to state that the living story content is no fun. No sane soul should enjoy running around hitting “F” on things, auto attacking in a group of 40 people with literally 0 risk while you think of what you want for dinner to avoid your brain being filled with these mind numbing processes, which is what most of the “living” story is composed of.

Ren.5842:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

Any particular reason?

I’m not saying the game is perfect, but it’s certainly not the mess a lot of people (even regulars on these forums I notice) seem to think it is. It’s another way for an mmo to operate, and based on everything else I’ve tried, it’s the most feature packed an intricate I’ve seen.

For me i think it’s as the game has no sense of it’self, a while back it was filled with bad 3d platforming and mini games, now it’s time gated gear chasing, which if you have enough money you wish to spend real life will give you an advantage in gearing by bypassing some of the time gate.

A-net did once pride them self on fairness and none having an advantage, i’m in a position that i could by gems etc but i feel it is being pushed at us and in principle don’t, in gw1 i was happy to spend as it was horizontal.

There are other things also but we could be here all day, as i said thou, its good to have fun and im happy you do:).

Vayne.8563:

Ceridwen.6703:

Ren.5842:

Just wanted to stop by and say, well, I’m loving Guild Wars 2!

This weekend I’m supposed to be in a beta stress test for another game which shall remain nameless, but playing that for a few hours last night made me realise just how much this game has compared to all other mmos!

Oddly enough, I’m doing the same thing this weekend… but after a few hours last night, I think I’ll be back in Tyria today.

I had a beta invite from another big name game and I’ve been trying it out. It’s not bad….it’s pedestrian. They have a whole lot of work to do before it’s half the game that Guild Wars 2 is.

Agreed! If we’re talking about the same game, spent around six hours in it and still no more invested or interested than I was before!

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

me too

Flissy.4093:

Vayne.8563:

Flissy.4093:

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Quite a few people have been playing since launch. Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. You just don’t like it, and you know…that’s okay.

It’s when people start trying to make their opinion into fact that the problem starts.

I like this game so the game is good for me. You don’t like this game so the game is bad for you.

Neither of us is right. But you shouldn’t assume the OP won’t like it in two weeks, because there are people playing since beta 1 who still like it.

I like the game. I still play many hours a day. That doesn’t make the direction the game is going good, it’s just the stuff from launch/shortly after is still interesting to me.

MMOs should never have been designed to cater to people who work 9-5 and play 1 hour a day around a family life.

Jeez, that’s a bit harsh. Do you not have to work for a living or something?

Raeysa Penrose.8450:

Flissy.4093:

Vayne.8563:

Flissy.4093:

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Quite a few people have been playing since launch. Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. You just don’t like it, and you know…that’s okay.

It’s when people start trying to make their opinion into fact that the problem starts.

I like this game so the game is good for me. You don’t like this game so the game is bad for you.

Neither of us is right. But you shouldn’t assume the OP won’t like it in two weeks, because there are people playing since beta 1 who still like it.

I like the game. I still play many hours a day. That doesn’t make the direction the game is going good, it’s just the stuff from launch/shortly after is still interesting to me.

MMOs should never have been designed to cater to people who work 9-5 and play 1 hour a day around a family life.

Jeez, that’s a bit harsh. Do you not have to work for a living or something?

I’m not criticising the group I mentioned, simply stating that MMOs have never been catered to such players, and as a genre known for such deep character progression and development, methods should never be easily attainable by those with extremely limited time.

Ren.5842:

Vayne.8563:

I had a beta invite from another big name game and I’ve been trying it out. It’s not bad….it’s pedestrian. They have a whole lot of work to do before it’s half the game that Guild Wars 2 is.

Agreed! If we’re talking about the same game, spent around six hours in it and still no more invested or interested than I was before!

Mmm. Also in agreement. I shall say no more.

Flissy.4093:

Raeysa Penrose.8450:

Flissy.4093:

Vayne.8563:

Flissy.4093:

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Quite a few people have been playing since launch. Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. You just don’t like it, and you know…that’s okay.

It’s when people start trying to make their opinion into fact that the problem starts.

I like this game so the game is good for me. You don’t like this game so the game is bad for you.

Neither of us is right. But you shouldn’t assume the OP won’t like it in two weeks, because there are people playing since beta 1 who still like it.

I like the game. I still play many hours a day. That doesn’t make the direction the game is going good, it’s just the stuff from launch/shortly after is still interesting to me.

MMOs should never have been designed to cater to people who work 9-5 and play 1 hour a day around a family life.

Jeez, that’s a bit harsh. Do you not have to work for a living or something?

I’m not criticising the group I mentioned, simply stating that MMOs have never been catered to such players, and as a genre known for such deep character progression and development, methods should never be easily attainable by those with extremely limited time.

I have literally never seen an MMO with deep character progression and development, barring GW2 of course. I’m not sure what MMOs you’ve been playing, but please, do tell!

That said, as far as completion and everything, I totally understand that being hard to attain. I’ll just keep working at it till 2030 and beyond.

I’ve been playing since launch, it’s my MMO of choice. Besides all the things that bring great praise to the game like the amazing graphics, animations and voice acting, no trinity combat, cooperative open world, no gearing up for PvP, frequency of content updates, etc., the main thing that keeps me playing is the wide open end game.

I’ve never felt funneled into one instance or game mode, I can literally do just about anything to progress my character. After I did my first map completion I went on a world boss binge, seriously I was hunting down the Shatterer long before there were timers or guaranteed rares. Then I got into dungeons and fractals, played the heck out of them and made enough to make my legendary. Then I discovered WvW and my server’s TS, the fun of being part of a large, server-wide war effort, the joy of victory/agony of defeat and always the fun of the fights. Lately I’ve been doing a good bit of PvP to hone my skills and having a blast with my team and meeting new peeps in soloQ.

Throughout all this the Living Story content keeps shaking things up, providing new content and new challenges, changes to the open world and tons of story.

The game isn’t perfect by any means, there’s still some areas that need attention and there’s no denying it’s definitely had its share of growing pains. It’s not for everyone, some people prefer a more linear, focused experience and don’t understand why we love it so much. But so far for me it’s the best MMO I’ve ever played.

Flissy.4093:

I’m not criticising the group I mentioned, simply stating that MMOs have never been catered to such players, and as a genre known for such deep character progression and development, methods should never be easily attainable by those with extremely limited time.

That’s a ridiculous overgeneralization of what an MMO is – MMOs were born as subscription games, and they needed time sinks as well as gold sinks for their business model to work. It has nothing to do with deep character progression – the single player games like Skyrim et. al. are know for that.

There’s absolutely no reason why a particular MMO shouldn’t fill a niche and be built for folks with less time to play. There is already a wide selection of MMOs that don’t cater to the more casual player, why would you begrudge those of us with careers and families the chance to play an MMO?

Raeysa Penrose.8450:

Flissy.4093:

Raeysa Penrose.8450:

Flissy.4093:

Vayne.8563:

Flissy.4093:

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Quite a few people have been playing since launch. Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. You just don’t like it, and you know…that’s okay.

It’s when people start trying to make their opinion into fact that the problem starts.

I like this game so the game is good for me. You don’t like this game so the game is bad for you.

Neither of us is right. But you shouldn’t assume the OP won’t like it in two weeks, because there are people playing since beta 1 who still like it.

I like the game. I still play many hours a day. That doesn’t make the direction the game is going good, it’s just the stuff from launch/shortly after is still interesting to me.

MMOs should never have been designed to cater to people who work 9-5 and play 1 hour a day around a family life.

Jeez, that’s a bit harsh. Do you not have to work for a living or something?

I’m not criticising the group I mentioned, simply stating that MMOs have never been catered to such players, and as a genre known for such deep character progression and development, methods should never be easily attainable by those with extremely limited time.

I have literally never seen an MMO with deep character progression and development, barring GW2 of course. I’m not sure what MMOs you’ve been playing, but please, do tell!

That said, as far as completion and everything, I totally understand that being hard to attain. I’ll just keep working at it till 2030 and beyond.

Deep character progression? Im not sure what you consider character progression, but i would imagine you could easily be 80 inside of a week. At that point you character progression is done.

You could argue that ascended gear could take much much longer, but most say that the stats changes on them are so small they dont matter. So you are left after one week, doing achievements and farming to be pretty. I suppose you could argue that if you wvwvw there is still progression to be had but it is hardly deep. Or you could argue you could spend time trying to get the look you want. Again not deep.

I just started playing again to kill time lately, so maybe i just havent discovered the deep part yet.

Ren.5842:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

Any particular reason?

I’m not saying the game is perfect, but it’s certainly not the mess a lot of people (even regulars on these forums I notice) seem to think it is. It’s another way for an mmo to operate, and based on everything else I’ve tried, it’s the most feature packed an intricate I’ve seen.

If you enjoy or don’t mind crafting and farming mats you should be fine. Once you get to end level it is the only realistic way to get the top gear for your toon. I used to feel the same way you described yourself until I got all my toons maxed. Then might feel stifled unless you can deal with farming mats and crafting as a carrot on the stick.

And for those who say that you can enjoy everything in the game with one tier below Ascended I say it’s true. But everyone could also get around the world on a Yugo, but most of us want the best vehicle we can afford.

Raeysa Penrose.8450:

Flissy.4093:

Raeysa Penrose.8450:

Flissy.4093:

Vayne.8563:

Flissy.4093:

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Quite a few people have been playing since launch. Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. You just don’t like it, and you know…that’s okay.

It’s when people start trying to make their opinion into fact that the problem starts.

I like this game so the game is good for me. You don’t like this game so the game is bad for you.

Neither of us is right. But you shouldn’t assume the OP won’t like it in two weeks, because there are people playing since beta 1 who still like it.

I like the game. I still play many hours a day. That doesn’t make the direction the game is going good, it’s just the stuff from launch/shortly after is still interesting to me.

MMOs should never have been designed to cater to people who work 9-5 and play 1 hour a day around a family life.

Jeez, that’s a bit harsh. Do you not have to work for a living or something?

I’m not criticising the group I mentioned, simply stating that MMOs have never been catered to such players, and as a genre known for such deep character progression and development, methods should never be easily attainable by those with extremely limited time.

I have literally never seen an MMO with deep character progression and development, barring GW2 of course. I’m not sure what MMOs you’ve been playing, but please, do tell!

That said, as far as completion and everything, I totally understand that being hard to attain. I’ll just keep working at it till 2030 and beyond.

Utopia tastes so good. ;p

Flissy.4093:

Raeysa Penrose.8450:

Flissy.4093:

Vayne.8563:

Flissy.4093:

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Quite a few people have been playing since launch. Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. You just don’t like it, and you know…that’s okay.

It’s when people start trying to make their opinion into fact that the problem starts.

I like this game so the game is good for me. You don’t like this game so the game is bad for you.

Neither of us is right. But you shouldn’t assume the OP won’t like it in two weeks, because there are people playing since beta 1 who still like it.

I like the game. I still play many hours a day. That doesn’t make the direction the game is going good, it’s just the stuff from launch/shortly after is still interesting to me.

MMOs should never have been designed to cater to people who work 9-5 and play 1 hour a day around a family life.

Jeez, that’s a bit harsh. Do you not have to work for a living or something?

I’m not criticising the group I mentioned, simply stating that MMOs have never been catered to such players, and as a genre known for such deep character progression and development, methods should never be easily attainable by those with extremely limited time.

oh dear, i think that i misunderstood nearly everything about gw2….
i thought it was about casuals, and “people who don’t like mmos”

good. just in time to change game.

ooops..i already spent 50bucks in 2012…what the hell!

Okiru.7635:

Ren.5842:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

Any particular reason?

I’m not saying the game is perfect, but it’s certainly not the mess a lot of people (even regulars on these forums I notice) seem to think it is. It’s another way for an mmo to operate, and based on everything else I’ve tried, it’s the most feature packed an intricate I’ve seen.

If you enjoy or don’t mind crafting and farming mats you should be fine. Once you get to end level it is the only realistic way to get the top gear for your toon. I used to feel the same way you described yourself until I got all my toons maxed. Then might feel stifled unless you can deal with farming mats and crafting as a carrot on the stick.

And for those who say that you can enjoy everything in the game with one tier below Ascended I say it’s true. But everyone could also get around the world on a Yugo, but most of us want the best vehicle we can afford.

I’ve yet to get to endgame so not entirely sure about this but doesn’t endgame armor come from dungeon runs & fractals?

You can craft your gear, in fact the only way to acquire Ascended weapons or armor is to either craft them, or get lucky with drops. Obviously you can’t control drops, so… yeah. However, Ascended trinkets (except back items) cannot be crafted right now, so you’ll have to acquire them differently.

I’m not a mathematician but if you plan to get fully ascended gear through drops you probably have a better chance to get struck by lighting.

Yes I agree with the thread title, despite the ascended gear “grind”. It’s still very fun to play.

Kevan.8912:

Flissy.4093:

Raeysa Penrose.8450:

Flissy.4093:

Vayne.8563:

Flissy.4093:

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Quite a few people have been playing since launch. Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. You just don’t like it, and you know…that’s okay.

It’s when people start trying to make their opinion into fact that the problem starts.

I like this game so the game is good for me. You don’t like this game so the game is bad for you.

Neither of us is right. But you shouldn’t assume the OP won’t like it in two weeks, because there are people playing since beta 1 who still like it.

I like the game. I still play many hours a day. That doesn’t make the direction the game is going good, it’s just the stuff from launch/shortly after is still interesting to me.

MMOs should never have been designed to cater to people who work 9-5 and play 1 hour a day around a family life.

Jeez, that’s a bit harsh. Do you not have to work for a living or something?

I’m not criticising the group I mentioned, simply stating that MMOs have never been catered to such players, and as a genre known for such deep character progression and development, methods should never be easily attainable by those with extremely limited time.

oh dear, i think that i misunderstood nearly everything about gw2….
i thought it was about casuals, and “people who don’t like mmos”

good. just in time to change game.

ooops..i already spent 50bucks in 2012…what the hell!

Yes you spent $50. And how many hours of play did you get for the $50? I’d wager more than you’d get for most games for $50.

And Guild Wars 2 never claimed that it would be made ONLY for casuals. I’d like you to show me where that was advertised. Guild Wars 2 is VERY casual friendly because you don’t need ascended gear to do 99.9 percent of the content.

What your issue is is that you’re not casual because you insist on BIS gear, which most casual players don’t really care about. That’s part of what makes them casual.

So refreshing to see a well articulated, positive and constructive thread. Thanks OP!

It’s funny, I’m involved with the same ‘unnamed’ beta weekend as you right now and was involved with the last one as well. After that first weekend it was just so good to get back to GW2, with a fresh set of eyes and an ever increasing appreciation for what ArenaNet has given us with this game.

Vayne.8563:

Kevan.8912:

Flissy.4093:

Raeysa Penrose.8450:

Flissy.4093:

Vayne.8563:

Flissy.4093:

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Quite a few people have been playing since launch. Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. You just don’t like it, and you know…that’s okay.

It’s when people start trying to make their opinion into fact that the problem starts.

I like this game so the game is good for me. You don’t like this game so the game is bad for you.

Neither of us is right. But you shouldn’t assume the OP won’t like it in two weeks, because there are people playing since beta 1 who still like it.

I like the game. I still play many hours a day. That doesn’t make the direction the game is going good, it’s just the stuff from launch/shortly after is still interesting to me.

MMOs should never have been designed to cater to people who work 9-5 and play 1 hour a day around a family life.

Jeez, that’s a bit harsh. Do you not have to work for a living or something?

I’m not criticising the group I mentioned, simply stating that MMOs have never been catered to such players, and as a genre known for such deep character progression and development, methods should never be easily attainable by those with extremely limited time.

oh dear, i think that i misunderstood nearly everything about gw2….
i thought it was about casuals, and “people who don’t like mmos”

good. just in time to change game.

ooops..i already spent 50bucks in 2012…what the hell!

Yes you spent $50. And how many hours of play did you get for the $50? I’d wager more than you’d get for most games for $50.

And Guild Wars 2 never claimed that it would be made ONLY for casuals. I’d like you to show me where that was advertised. Guild Wars 2 is VERY casual friendly because you don’t need ascended gear to do 99.9 percent of the content.

What your issue is is that you’re not casual because you insist on BIS gear, which most casual players don’t really care about. That’s part of what makes them casual.

as you love words, i didn’t say it was ONLY for casuals. and i didn’t say it was advertised.
just said i “misunderstood”.
strange phenomenon. in some threads you go directly to correct the supposed meaning of a post. in others only stick to semantics ignoring the message. interesting

Vayne.8563:

I had a beta invite from another big name game and I’ve been trying it out. It’s not bad….it’s pedestrian. They have a whole lot of work to do before it’s half the game that Guild Wars 2 is.

If you’re talking about that big name game everyone is trying out this week end… Well, you’re almost right.
Because it’s totally true that that game’s combat system is even worse than GW2’s, not only that, but it’s totally broken, with random hit spots and damage that comes when the animation is still running… And speaking of animation, well, i probably seen worse only in the single player version of that game…

That said, for being a stress where almost every single person in the planet as been invited, the server (yes, it’s only one) is literally humiliating all GW2’s, and the game engine too is a beast, running supersmooth already with some of the beautiest sceneries ever seen in a MMO.

Kevan.8912:

Vayne.8563:

Kevan.8912:

Flissy.4093:

Raeysa Penrose.8450:

Flissy.4093:

Vayne.8563:

Flissy.4093:

Kibazuka.1390:

Flissy.4093:

I’ll give you 2 weeks before you go back on most of what you said.

I play since release day and still play several hours each day and love it.

Then you should be in the class of people who suffer the most from the games problems.

Quite a few people have been playing since launch. Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. You just don’t like it, and you know…that’s okay.

It’s when people start trying to make their opinion into fact that the problem starts.

I like this game so the game is good for me. You don’t like this game so the game is bad for you.

Neither of us is right. But you shouldn’t assume the OP won’t like it in two weeks, because there are people playing since beta 1 who still like it.

I like the game. I still play many hours a day. That doesn’t make the direction the game is going good, it’s just the stuff from launch/shortly after is still interesting to me.

MMOs should never have been designed to cater to people who work 9-5 and play 1 hour a day around a family life.

Jeez, that’s a bit harsh. Do you not have to work for a living or something?

I’m not criticising the group I mentioned, simply stating that MMOs have never been catered to such players, and as a genre known for such deep character progression and development, methods should never be easily attainable by those with extremely limited time.

oh dear, i think that i misunderstood nearly everything about gw2….
i thought it was about casuals, and “people who don’t like mmos”

good. just in time to change game.

ooops..i already spent 50bucks in 2012…what the hell!

Yes you spent $50. And how many hours of play did you get for the $50? I’d wager more than you’d get for most games for $50.

And Guild Wars 2 never claimed that it would be made ONLY for casuals. I’d like you to show me where that was advertised. Guild Wars 2 is VERY casual friendly because you don’t need ascended gear to do 99.9 percent of the content.

What your issue is is that you’re not casual because you insist on BIS gear, which most casual players don’t really care about. That’s part of what makes them casual.

as you love words, i didn’t say it was ONLY for casuals. and i didn’t say it was advertised.
just said i “misunderstood”.
strange phenomenon. in some threads you go directly to correct the supposed meaning of a post. in others only stick to semantics ignoring the message. interesting

Well, you see here’s the issue. If you simply misunderstood, then all the complaining you’re doing in other threads would be your own fault. But across several threads, you’re not saying the same thing.

If the fault is yours, why not admit it? If the fault isn’t yours, why say it here?

And yes, I type fast and read fast, I won’t always get it right. When I don’t I apologize.

i think i ve already written elsewhere about manifesto.
but not in the post you quoted.

and manifesto brings us nowhere but towards arguments among p(l)ayers.
so i left that 3d , trying to make in a new one some constructive considerations about what could bring casuals back to gw2…
until someone started again to argue about words…:\

Valanga.5942:

Vayne.8563:

I had a beta invite from another big name game and I’ve been trying it out. It’s not bad….it’s pedestrian. They have a whole lot of work to do before it’s half the game that Guild Wars 2 is.

If you’re talking about that big name game everyone is trying out this week end… Well, you’re almost right.
Because it’s totally true that that game’s combat system is even worse than GW2’s, not only that, but it’s totally broken, with random hit spots and damage that comes when the animation is still running… And speaking of animation, well, i probably seen worse only in the single player version of that game…

That said, for being a stress where almost every single person in the planet as been invited, the server (yes, it’s only one) is literally humiliating all GW2’s, and the game engine too is a beast, running supersmooth already with some of the beautiest sceneries ever seen in a MMO.

The question i have, since i didn’t sign up for beta of said magical game, is a year after launch will i still be using the same 3 attack skills i had launch day? I hate to think Gw2 with its deep and vast character progression, actually manage to set a trend, with no actual skill progression.

Ren.5842:

I’m loving Guild Wars 2!

Welcome to the club. Just remember: we gripe because we love.

Otherwise, we would be busy griping about some other game in its forums instead.

Wryscher.1432:

The question i have, since i didn’t sign up for beta of said magical game, is a year after launch will i still be using the same 3 attack skills i had launch day? I hate to think Gw2 with its deep and vast character progression, actually manage to set a trend, with no actual skill progression.

Actually, you won’t.
Without breaking any NDA, since there’s plenty of official videos showing that, you can not only build your character with a decent amount of different skills, but by leveling them, you can change some of their effects, making them totally different from their original form, and even from the same level skill, shaped in different way.

That said, the combat is just bad and clunky, it’s gonna be another of those game full of good idea on paper, but with a pedestrian execution…