Guild Wars 2

What I mean is I don’t know what to do when I go to play and it seems as though there’s nothing to work for anymore.

I really loved fractals and I’ve dedicated myself so much to them as an experienced Ranger and having reached the 45AR limit but the ~2 hours of work on 20+ for peanuts post January isn’t too enticing anymore.

Orr used to be fun but when the Champs started coming with the groups of risen gets very boring and difficult when there are 2 Champs and only a few players because it was leveled up by people just wanting to tag events. There’s also no incentives for players to do all the other events around Orr such as Balthazar and Zho’qafa Catacombs(or should I say, there’s no way to tell players these event are ongoing and encourage them to join without the use or external websites like Dragon Timer).

Go for a Legendary?…Sorry but I don’t think the ‘Legendary’ weapons in are truly legendary, every time I see one it just screams “look at me, I farmed CoF for this” and there’s no way to tell if someone has just bought it from the Trade Post or craft it themselves. Although I do like the whole process of crafting them(Gifts of so and so), I think a true Legendary that would be worth having as a goal would be based on something that makes no connection to the games Trade Post so to ‘cost’ of which will always remain the same for example The Gift of Mastery and Gifts from dungeon tokens. Precursors are also are a nice touch and one of which is only sensible for the way in which weapon type you want but the way in which you have to acquire one is ridiculous. I think the way in which these should be acquired should be a culmination of what a players adventure is in Tyria even to put aside my opinion on getting Gift of Fortune and not just matter of throwing 4000 rares/exotics into a well and hoping to get one or mindlessly farming CoF(again) to buy one from someone who didn’t even want one. Scavenger Hunt sounds awesome but I think its just something that was said to keep people quiet for the time being, and even if there was just a thing its not like they will be handed to players for finishing the ‘Scavenger Hunt’ without ArenaNet’s favorite recipe called RNG. And then, even after all that I will have to ‘ruin’ it by transmuting it because it doesn’t have the stats that I prefer.

I try to level alt characters but when I get them to 80 I find it stressful that I can’t shower them in ascended amulets/accessory’s as that I can do with rings with different types of builds for different situations as it takes a month of Laurals and Guild Commendations for only one build on one character. You can buy rings with both Laurals and Pristine Fractal Relics, I really don’t get why we can’t buy accessory’s and amulets with Pristine Fractal Relics when they are very much a FoTM orientated gear?

What can I do?

tl;dr: someone depressed about their impending death finds GW2 may not be doing it for them anymore.

So go play another game. I don’t get this.

I play a game for a while, I get tired of it, I play another one. I don’t stop to post on forums that I don’t feel like playing anymore.

There’s plenty of good games out there. Go enjoy some of them. When new stuff comes out, you can always check back in.

What do you look to verify?

Like what Vayne here said, just play another game until Anet sends you another email “come look what’s new this month!” that will excite you again.

Go play Super Adventure Box. Oh wait…

I came to the same dilemma about a month plus ago, I just now run my ranger melee pvp build go to EB WvW JP and pvp few times a week, best part of the game.

i did what vayne said best advice i can give you. im back for bit then ill probably go for a while. funny thing is gw1 had a big enough difference it kept me occupied for 7 years. pre was my soft spot havent found one in gw2 an area that refreshes me like pre did in the original

Vayne.8563:

So go play another game. I don’t get this.

I play a game for a while, I get tired of it, I play another one. I don’t stop to post on forums that I don’t feel like playing anymore.

There’s plenty of good games out there. Go enjoy some of them. When new stuff comes out, you can always check back in.

Please excuse the OP for actually taking the time to ask and discuss ways the game can be improved. Yeah unlike you…

Knighthonor.4061:

Vayne.8563:

So go play another game. I don’t get this.

I play a game for a while, I get tired of it, I play another one. I don’t stop to post on forums that I don’t feel like playing anymore.

There’s plenty of good games out there. Go enjoy some of them. When new stuff comes out, you can always check back in.

Please excuse the OP for actually taking the time to ask and discuss ways the game can be improved. Yeah unlike you…

Anet’s best selling point is retention of lost players and to bring in the new.
There will never be a solid community, just like in GW1 – most players will find themselves taking a short ~ long break and come back again.

Firegoth.6427:

Knighthonor.4061:

Vayne.8563:

So go play another game. I don’t get this.

I play a game for a while, I get tired of it, I play another one. I don’t stop to post on forums that I don’t feel like playing anymore.

There’s plenty of good games out there. Go enjoy some of them. When new stuff comes out, you can always check back in.

Please excuse the OP for actually taking the time to ask and discuss ways the game can be improved. Yeah unlike you…

Anet’s best selling point is retention of lost players and to bring in the new.
There will never be a solid community, just like in GW1 – most players will find themselves taking a short ~ long break and come back again.

Never is a long time. Tons of people stopped playing Prophecies and didn’t come back till Factions…some, like my sons, never went back, they discovered WoW in the interim.

Knighthonor.4061:

Vayne.8563:

So go play another game. I don’t get this.

I play a game for a while, I get tired of it, I play another one. I don’t stop to post on forums that I don’t feel like playing anymore.

There’s plenty of good games out there. Go enjoy some of them. When new stuff comes out, you can always check back in.

Please excuse the OP for actually taking the time to ask and discuss ways the game can be improved. Yeah unlike you…

Not what the OP is discussing though. He’s discussing being bored with the game. Well sure, he’s played through all the content, there’s nothing new…it happens. Go play something else and come back when there’s more content. It’s not an unreasonable thing to suggest.

ricky markham.8173:

i did what vayne said best advice i can give you. im back for bit then ill probably go for a while. funny thing is gw1 had a big enough difference it kept me occupied for 7 years. pre was my soft spot havent found one in gw2 an area that refreshes me like pre did in the original

But you didn’t play Prophecies for 7 years. And if you started with Prophecies, I predict you’d have taken a break at some point, before Factions came out.

People are still comparing three full campaigns and an expansion to one game.

MMOs traidtionally take a year or two to really get going. That’s pretty much all of them. Guild Wars 2, in two years time, will have a lot more content. It may well be better in other ways too.

Vayne.8563:

Firegoth.6427:

Knighthonor.4061:

Vayne.8563:

So go play another game. I don’t get this.

I play a game for a while, I get tired of it, I play another one. I don’t stop to post on forums that I don’t feel like playing anymore.

There’s plenty of good games out there. Go enjoy some of them. When new stuff comes out, you can always check back in.

Please excuse the OP for actually taking the time to ask and discuss ways the game can be improved. Yeah unlike you…

Anet’s best selling point is retention of lost players and to bring in the new.
There will never be a solid community, just like in GW1 – most players will find themselves taking a short ~ long break and come back again.

Never is a long time. Tons of people stopped playing Prophecies and didn’t come back till Factions…some, like my sons, never went back, they discovered WoW in the interim.

No disrespect but people who discovered WoW and enjoyed it should stay there

Also, I did say most.

Firegoth.6427:

Vayne.8563:

Firegoth.6427:

Knighthonor.4061:

Vayne.8563:

So go play another game. I don’t get this.

I play a game for a while, I get tired of it, I play another one. I don’t stop to post on forums that I don’t feel like playing anymore.

There’s plenty of good games out there. Go enjoy some of them. When new stuff comes out, you can always check back in.

Please excuse the OP for actually taking the time to ask and discuss ways the game can be improved. Yeah unlike you…

Anet’s best selling point is retention of lost players and to bring in the new.
There will never be a solid community, just like in GW1 – most players will find themselves taking a short ~ long break and come back again.

Never is a long time. Tons of people stopped playing Prophecies and didn’t come back till Factions…some, like my sons, never went back, they discovered WoW in the interim.

No disrespect but people who discovered WoW and enjoyed it should stay there

Also, I did say most.

Actually I misread your post. That’s what I get for not putting my glasses on. Sorry about that.

But I don’t really agree that Guild Wars 1 didn’t have a community because it had an awesome one…and a solid one. There was a core community that stayed pretty much throughout the whole time. I was one of those….since I started playing anyway.

And I think over time, as content is added, Guild Wars 2 will have the same sort of core community. In fact, it’s probably already started.

If farming COF for a legendary is so quick and easy, why don’t you go do it yourself?

It still takes a lot of time and effort, and is arguably one of the slower methods.

/thread.

Ha! I double dare you or anyone to buy a legendary through gems→ gold. And as for farming CoF, what’s wrong with thay again? I Mean, I don’t do it myself, but I don’t see how it’s “cheating” in any way.

You know, I hit that wall recently. I just kept playing here and there and went on vacation IRL… came back and got into WvW. It can be a lot of fun! Also fell in love with a new profession as well, so my love for the game has never been stronger… and I really have no idea why. Sometimes you just need a break.

Vayne.8563:

Go play something else and come back when there’s more content. It’s not an unreasonable thing to suggest.

That might work if the new content wasn’t, ya know, temporary.

Yeah playing WvW with a good guild and TS on is the best way to never get bored

Tachenon.5270:

Vayne.8563:

Go play something else and come back when there’s more content. It’s not an unreasonable thing to suggest.

That might work if the new content wasn’t, ya know, temporary.

Umm, why? You mean you can’t follow the game and come back and play temporary content?

Vayne.8563:

ricky markham.8173:

i did what vayne said best advice i can give you. im back for bit then ill probably go for a while. funny thing is gw1 had a big enough difference it kept me occupied for 7 years. pre was my soft spot havent found one in gw2 an area that refreshes me like pre did in the original

But you didn’t play Prophecies for 7 years. And* if you started with Prophecies, I predict you’d have taken a break at some point, before Factions came out.*

People are still comparing three full campaigns and an expansion to one game.

MMOs traidtionally take a year or two to really get going. That’s pretty much all of them. Guild Wars 2, in two years time, will have a lot more content. It may well be better in other ways too.

That’s so true, I constantly wonder why people simply don’t get it. Prophecies was boring, bland and short apart for the incredible promise it carried. It made true on that promise with factions, but really … 3 months into proph I was bored to death. Almost everyone I knew back then, stopped playing. I kept logging in because the game was that beautiful with such good mechanics, yet the content wasn’t there.

Had I played GW2 as religiously on launch as I did with GW1, I would have burned out by December. However I took back a step, I know by experience that MMOs at launch don’t contain that amount of content, and I’m prepared to let GW2 grow into the gem it will be, just like GW1 eventually became.

Vayne.8563:

Tachenon.5270:

Vayne.8563:

Go play something else and come back when there’s more content. It’s not an unreasonable thing to suggest.

That might work if the new content wasn’t, ya know, temporary.

Umm, why? You mean you can’t follow the game and come back and play temporary content?

You can’t come back and play content that’s no longer available due to being, ya know, temporary.

Oh, sure, you could come back and catch the current temporary content of the month/quarter/whatever but that’s all too soon over and you’re left with that old dilemma of having nothing new left to do. On the other hand, you could come back and play permanent content that’s accumulated since you left and have lots of stuff to catch up on.

Which would you prefer?

I never took month long breaks in GW1 like I do regularly in GW2, just sayin’. Currently the game has nothing going for it even in the long run unless they add a ton of build variety and fix a lot of stuff which would probably take ANet years to realize. At that point I’ll have just moved on to the next big thing like ESO or whatever new MMO comes out.

And temporary content is horrible. It’s all we’ve had so far…

Get some achievement points ^^ That always work

Go play another game or 2, besides GW2, I play 4 other games, I never suffer from burnout because if I tire of one I just switch…

MMO’s are just one type of game, this myth that you are supposed to play them continuously for years is just that a MYTH…

Just tune back in for the monthly updates…

I’m shaking my head and thinking, “wow, I must be a boring person.” I’ve played GW1, CoH, DDO, CO, DCUO, LOTRO, WoW and now dabbling in Neverwinter and GW2 easily has the most diverse content of everything I’ve played to date. With the exception of GW1 and LOTRO, I found myself doing EXACTLY the same things over and over ad nauseum – GW1 and LOTRO eventually got that way for me too but it took a lot longer. My opinion entirely, but I just think that people don’t realize the gem that is GW2. I’ve tried so hard to get into the other games – it’s prety easy with GW2.

Mathias.9657:

I never took month long breaks in GW1 like I do regularly in GW2, just sayin’. Currently the game has nothing going for it even in the long run unless they add a ton of build variety and fix a lot of stuff which would probably take ANet years to realize. At that point I’ll have just moved on to the next big thing like ESO or whatever new MMO comes out.

And temporary content is horrible. It’s all we’ve had so far…

When did you start playing GW1?

You know the best part about GW2 being free?

There’s none of the irrational sense of guilt or loss people get when they try leaving a subscription-based game (and yes, it is irrational, because you don’t lose anything).

MrTastix.6842:

You know the best part about GW2 being free?

There’s none of the irrational sense of guilt or loss people get when they try leaving a subscription-based game (and yes, it is irrational, because you don’t lose anything).

This makes no sense to me. Who feels guilty about leaving a game they are bored with, sub based or not? What? Are people really this weak minded?

Tachenon.5270:

Vayne.8563:

Tachenon.5270:

Vayne.8563:

Go play something else and come back when there’s more content. It’s not an unreasonable thing to suggest.

That might work if the new content wasn’t, ya know, temporary.

Umm, why? You mean you can’t follow the game and come back and play temporary content?

You can’t come back and play content that’s no longer available due to being, ya know, temporary.

Oh, sure, you could come back and catch the current temporary content of the month/quarter/whatever but that’s all too soon over and you’re left with that old dilemma of having nothing new left to do. On the other hand, you could come back and play permanent content that’s accumulated since you left and have lots of stuff to catch up on.

Which would you prefer?

Okay so someone hasn’t played a lot of the game, they come back and there’s nothing to do? I’m not sure I’m following you.

There are advantages and disadvantages to the way the game is doing stuff. I’m not so sure someone coming back wanting to do story mode dungeons is going to be way happy, because it’s hard to find groups for story mode dungeons.

This ways there’s always something going on and there’s a concentration of players for it. The way some athletes like to retire at the height of their abilities instead of when they’re older and less valuable, the same can be said for content.

Plenty of dungeons I loved for a month and then never wanted to do again.

I’ve done every piece of content this game has to offer so many times it might make your eyes bleed. That said, it’s all still fun to me because I do it with random group compositions and with friends that I really enjoy playing with. I find silly little goals for myself like Volcanus, making (and then selling) my legendary, and trying out different classes in ways I never had before. That’s fun for me, and it’s only fun because I make these little goals for myself. I don’t rush the game, I don’t grind content, I don’t farm anything; it all comes to me in time anyway.

I am having a blast and doubt that will change for years to come. Maybe you can find something similar, and if you can’t, maybe you’ll try another game and then come back for the monthly releases.

Vayne.8563:

Tachenon.5270:

Vayne.8563:

Tachenon.5270:

Vayne.8563:

Go play something else and come back when there’s more content. It’s not an unreasonable thing to suggest.

That might work if the new content wasn’t, ya know, temporary.

Umm, why? You mean you can’t follow the game and come back and play temporary content?

You can’t come back and play content that’s no longer available due to being, ya know, temporary.

Oh, sure, you could come back and catch the current temporary content of the month/quarter/whatever but that’s all too soon over and you’re left with that old dilemma of having nothing new left to do. On the other hand, you could come back and play permanent content that’s accumulated since you left and have lots of stuff to catch up on.

Which would you prefer?

Okay so someone hasn’t played a lot of the game, they come back and there’s nothing to do? I’m not sure I’m following you.

You do seem to be confused. I didn’t say anything about someone coming back after not having ‘played a lot of the game’. Where did that come from? Were you responding to someone else?

marnick.4305:

Mathias.9657:

I never took month long breaks in GW1 like I do regularly in GW2, just sayin’. Currently the game has nothing going for it even in the long run unless they add a ton of build variety and fix a lot of stuff which would probably take ANet years to realize. At that point I’ll have just moved on to the next big thing like ESO or whatever new MMO comes out.

And temporary content is horrible. It’s all we’ve had so far…

When did you start playing GW1?

2005 I think? Not long after the game was released, I was there for the failings of trying to do ring of fire mission for like a month because it was hard as hell back then. GW1 didn’t need a bunch of content, build wars and amazing pvp saw to that.

FInN.7219:

Go for a Legendary?…Sorry but I don’t think the ‘Legendary’ weapons in are truly legendary

I understand this one. When I first heard about legendary’s I thought it would be something to shoot for, long term. Then I realized they were only skins, and had no stat benefit over exotics. To which I thought…wtf?

When I see the amount of effort necessary to create one I cannot help but laugh. There is no way I would ever bother with that much work in a game for nothing more than a skin…it’s absurd. I have never really cared how my gear looked, only the stats is carries.

Mathias.9657:

marnick.4305:

Mathias.9657:

I never took month long breaks in GW1 like I do regularly in GW2, just sayin’. Currently the game has nothing going for it even in the long run unless they add a ton of build variety and fix a lot of stuff which would probably take ANet years to realize. At that point I’ll have just moved on to the next big thing like ESO or whatever new MMO comes out.

And temporary content is horrible. It’s all we’ve had so far…

When did you start playing GW1?

2005 I think? Not long after the game was released, I was there for the failings of trying to do ring of fire mission for like a month because it was hard as hell back then. GW1 didn’t need a bunch of content, build wars and amazing pvp saw to that.

So the guys that left because they were bored lied? lol

Sounds to me like you just play the game way to kitten much, there is more to life as cool as GW2 can be…

Phaedryn.3698:

FInN.7219:

Go for a Legendary?…Sorry but I don’t think the ‘Legendary’ weapons in are truly legendary

I understand this one. When I first heard about legendary’s I thought it would be something to shoot for, long term. Then I realized they were only skins, and had no stat benefit over exotics. To which I thought…wtf?

When I see the amount of effort necessary to create one I cannot help but laugh. There is no way I would ever bother with that much work in a game for nothing more than a skin…it’s absurd. I have never really cared how my gear looked, only the stats is carries.

Then this is probably the wrong game for you, because it was never designed to be that kind of game. Did you see the riot that occurred when Anet offered ascended gear for the first time?

This game was always about cosmetic upgrades. So was Guild Wars 1.

The problem with tiers of gear is that you end up with stat creep, which trivializes older content and limits pretty much everything you can do in game. If all you care about is stats and nothing else, I can’t understand why you’re here.

The stat creep is outdated and very boring, “No one” ever enjoyed that game play style.

VoIP is the only thing that made it bearable.

I’ve been complaining about this since November of last year. Where are the minigames, where are the DE’s where are the metas?

(referring to your peanuts comment)
And then there’s the whole fiasco with loot, that they definitely changed in Nov but no one likes to admit it, where the first month I could get rares and T6 mats from chests out in the open world and now I’m lucky to see a green. Champions the same way most of the time. What makes it worse is there’s a bug that suddenly drops a rare off a low level crappy mob like a deer, it’s like a slap in the face.

Legendaries for engineers are just plain stupid looking imo and I agree “Look at me! I farmed CoF!” is definitely what I’m seeing because you can’t get anything in the open world anymore. We complained about it before and what was their answer to the sheer lack of lodestones/gossamer/globs? MORE RNG because that’s exactly what this game needs is more rng. sigh.

I dunno why but I keep holding onto the hope that someone over there realizes what they did and fixes it. It would sure be a great restoration in faith in gaming companies if they did. I had the biggest blast the first month and a half of this game when there were not 8 months of PVE nerfs to engineers to deal with, loot was in the right places you could actually FARM omg I could farm!, and there was the promise of new open world only content on the horizon, then November happened.

Oh well here’s the hoping.

tigirius.9014:

I’ve been complaining about this since November of last year. Where are the minigames, where are the DE’s where are the metas?

(referring to your peanuts comment)
And then there’s the whole fiasco with loot, that they definitely changed in Nov but no one likes to admit it, where the first month I could get rares and T6 mats from chests out in the open world and now I’m lucky to see a green. Champions the same way most of the time. What makes it worse is there’s a bug that suddenly drops a rare off a low level crappy mob like a deer, it’s like a slap in the face.

Legendaries for engineers are just plain stupid looking imo and I agree “Look at me! I farmed CoF!” is definitely what I’m seeing because you can’t get anything in the open world anymore. We complained about it before and what was their answer to the sheer lack of lodestones/gossamer/globs? MORE RNG because that’s exactly what this game needs is more rng. sigh.

I dunno why but I keep holding onto the hope that someone over there realizes what they did and fixes it. It would sure be a great restoration in faith in gaming companies if they did. I had the biggest blast the first month and a half of this game when there were not 8 months of PVE nerfs to engineers to deal with, loot was in the right places you could actually FARM omg I could farm!, and there was the promise of new open world only content on the horizon, then November happened.

Oh well here’s the hoping.

I don’t know, I got the Predator today and I quite like it. I agree the pistol is godawful though. I don’t get that at all. It looks more like something a clown would use in a circus.

But the predator is pretty cool looking and I love that it wreathes me in fire whenever I draw it.

Interesting discussion on leaving and coming back to a game. I have always thought most gamers were habitual. As in, they get hooked on a game and thats it and if they leave thats it. Im like that myself. If I left this game Id never ever play it again. Id be off doing something else that I have grown a habit of doing, whether its a different game or something outside of that.

PearlGore.7419:

The stat creep is outdated and very boring, “No one” ever enjoyed that game play style.

VoIP is the only thing that made it bearable.

Someone needs to get with Anet and tell them to replace stat creep with something, anything, throw me a bone here.

We are seriously 8 months into this and there are still only 10-20 outfits for each armor type. Not mention only about 10 weapon models for each weapon type at 80. If you aren’t going to increase stats, at least give us some kind of cosmetic upgrades obtainable in game, without RNG. Thanks.

Vayne.8563:

So go play another game. I don’t get this.

I play a game for a while, I get tired of it, I play another one. I don’t stop to post on forums that I don’t feel like playing anymore.

It’s pretty obvious why people make these posts. You just don’t like the idea of someone complaining about GW2.

I have never wanted an MMO to succeed as much as this one and the reason is because AN have really tried to push the gendre past the set in stone formula it has been stuck in since WoW arrived. I do think a lot of players are getting bored because there is a sense of no progression.

Personally I play to have fun, I do different things and sometimes it’s what you make of it. Like someone said having their own small goals. I also play other games along side my current MMO and even take small breaks. I find this keeps it fresh and fun to play.

I also think a lot of players make posts like this because they are bored/burned out etc but still care about the game and so need to rationalise their feelings. I totally get this as in the last month Ive seen many good friends stop playing GW2 and it’s a bad feeling when people stop playing the game you love to play.

Apart from adding a long term progression mechanic (a carrot) I can’t see what else AN could have done. They have given us a beautiful and stunning game crammed with exquist design. The classes are fun, the WvsW is basically a full siege simulator and there are so many fun things to do, like jumping puzzles (but many players dont just want to play for fun). Sure the game has flaws, dont they all but I have to take my hat off to AN for sticking to their guns on many things they wanted to do, even when they know it will cost them some players.

I really hope we are still playing it in a year from now.

FInN.7219:

What I mean is I don’t know what to do when I go to play and it seems as though there’s nothing to work for anymore.

The enduring elements of any good MMORPG are lacking in GW2. Once you get past the very fun wrapping, you find a game that ages quickly. Here are some of the reasons:

(1) PvE is shallow.

Most of the content in this game is easy. The content that isn’t easy is difficult by virtue of cheap mechanics rather than intelligent fights.

GW1 had a decent solution when it introduced Hard Mode. Having instanced areas that are significantly more challenging could provide some much needed content. Rewards could be scaled or added as needed from dungeon to dungeon, including titles that demonstrated mastery of the most difficult content in the game.

Of course, if the dungeon content remains insipid, there would be little motivation to play a hard mode.

Something that would make the game more interesting is a complex system of buff/debuff and condition/cleanse. This way support and condition builds would have a real and meaningful role to play in encounters. Such a system could also apply to PvP. As it is, the system is dull because it gives incentive and is designed (intentionally or not) for players to take up dps roles.

Additionally, GW1 had an enjoyable elite-skill capture system. Something like this kept me engaged in the first game for quite sometime. Nothing similar exists in this game.

Finally, atmospherically the game is hobbled by poor story telling. The personal story is a particularly egregious example of this, as it morphed into Traherne’s story. That would have been acceptable (barely) if the story had at least credibly communicated how important and vital his role was. Also, dragons destroying the world is a lowest common denominator fantasy trope. And don’t get me started on Orr.

(2) Build variety is non-existent.

It’s clear that the general skill and abilities in this game were not thought out well, either from a balance or fundamental design perspective. The fact that there is clearly one (occasionally two?) best build for each profession that far outstrips the performance of other builds is evidence of inadequate design.

This is a function of the shallow PvE. When everything is centered around damage/damage/damage, and “challenging” fights in dungeons reduce to slaying an HP sponge, it’s difficult, if not near-impossible, to design abilities and skills that provide anything meaningful other than different ways of dealing damage.

The trinity just reduces fights to battles over hp bars, but you still need something more interesting to replace it.

(3) Competitive play is shallow.

One of the great draws to PvP in Guild Wars 1 was the ever-changing meta as players moved from one flavor of builds to another. This system was far from perfect, and indeed suffered from some serious flaws, but it did have a degree of customization and strategy that is otherwise completely lacking in Guild Wars 2.

WvW is a trite affair. It’s highly repetitive, and victories in the zones don’t feel significantly attached to the rewards given to the server that captures important territory. Not only are there few compelling reasons to fight in WvW, but the fights that do occur are largely reduced to zerg strategies.

Additionally, the rewards from PvP (and to some extent WvW) are too detached from PvE. It would be beneficial to have better ways to display your commitment to and skill in structured or tournament play.

I really loved fractals and I’ve dedicated myself so much to them as an experienced Ranger and having reached the 45AR limit but the ~2 hours of work on 20+ for peanuts post January isn’t too enticing anymore.

Yes, this is a cheap gimmick to draw out the same amount of content over a long period of time, the go-to for companies that can’t produce enough to satisfy its player base. It’s not particularly rewarding or enjoyable after extended play.

Go for a Legendary?

I don’t suspect they are going to make any changes since the system is generally working as intended: legendaries are a colossal waste of time and resources designed to give hardcore or long-term gamers something to do.

Also, if they changed the manner in which they were earned, a lot of people would complain, both those who were saving gold and those who crafted it. ANet is stuck living with poor design choices that are difficult to change or otherwise fix.

What can I do?

Honestly, I think you should find another game. GW2 had great promise. Come back in a year or two and see if things are better.

I think this applies to all aspects of life? People, like myself, who work week after week, 8-5, day in, day out, come home, cook dinner, go over homework with the kids, clean the house, do the laundry, mow the lawn, etc. … get burned out after awhile. We go on a vacation for a week or two, come back, and feel refreshed, at least to a certain degree.

I played GW2 for a couple of hours everyday and then marathoned a few weekends here and there from release to around the Wintersday event. Mind you, I only have one lv 80, never completed the map, never set foot in a dungeon (no interest, really), would love a legendary, but pffft, not worried about it, and have about a dozen alts ranging from lv 20-50, so it’s hardly like i’ve been everywhere and done everything. But I was still feeling burned out. Had no interest in doing anything once I logged on. So I just gave it up for a couple of months. Logged back in a month or so back and it just felt fresh and new again. And I’m back to playing a couple of hours or so everyday, for the most part.

Will I burn out again in a few months? Most likely … but after a vaca, I’ll come back, and it’ll feel fresh and new yet again. And you could do the same — certainly no harm in doing it …

I know exactly what you mean. I’m returning after taking a break. The grind towards many of the game’s goals just make me not want to bother logging in sometimes.

Now that I’m feeling a bit more keen to get back into the new content I feel like I can’t complete it because it’s either temporary and/or bugged.

Also I can’t play during the day on weekends so I’m a bit discouraged that all future finale events will occur and I won’t be able to experience those either.

Guns and Giblets.9308:

Vayne.8563:

So go play another game. I don’t get this.

I play a game for a while, I get tired of it, I play another one. I don’t stop to post on forums that I don’t feel like playing anymore.

It’s pretty obvious why people make these posts. You just don’t like the idea of someone complaining about GW2.

Actually there are not only complaint threads I ignore complete (I’m sure they’re not hard to find), but there are complaint threads I’ve agreed with.

Since you seem to like to reply to my threads, you must have an issue with someone pointing out simple stuff like I’m tired of a game, okay go play another game.

Since this is something many people besides me have said in similar threads, I assume you’ve posted a personal response to each one, because if you’re just singling me out it comes off much like harrassment.

Maybe you should just stop worrying about why I post, since that’s NOT the topic here.

Vayne.8563:

Since you seem to like to reply to my threads, you must have an issue with someone pointing out simple stuff like I’m tired of a game, okay go play another game.

Since this is something many people besides me have said in similar threads, I assume you’ve posted a personal response to each one, because if you’re just singling me out it comes off much like harrassment.

Maybe you should just stop worrying about why I post, since that’s NOT the topic here.

Harassment? You have two options: (1) Produce relevant evidence; or, (2) Retract your insinuation and apologize.

I don’t follow you around. You do happen to post in a lot of the threads I read, and when I see your asinine nonsense, sometimes I respond. That is hardly “harassment.”

Guns and Giblets.9308:

Vayne.8563:

Since you seem to like to reply to my threads, you must have an issue with someone pointing out simple stuff like I’m tired of a game, okay go play another game.

Since this is something many people besides me have said in similar threads, I assume you’ve posted a personal response to each one, because if you’re just singling me out it comes off much like harrassment.

Maybe you should just stop worrying about why I post, since that’s NOT the topic here.

Harassment? You have two options: (1) Produce relevant evidence; or, (2) Retract your insinuation and apologize.

I don’t follow you around. You do happen to post in a lot of the threads I read, and when I see your asinine nonsense, sometimes I respond. That is hardly “harassment.”

I’ll just reply to this so there’s a record of it that you can’t personally edit. If you are more interested in analyzing why I post, to the point where your’e talking about it more than what’s in the OP, its’ in appropriate for the forums, and personal.

I don’t care if you don’t like what I post. In fact, I’m quite happy that’s the case, because it means I’ve scored points. If I never scored points, you wouldn’t care at all. What bothers you is that I’m often correct in what I’m saying, so you can’t remain negative without a counterpoint. Sorry if that inconveniences you.

But it doesn’t give you the right to analyze why I post or make it the topic of conversation, unless you want to start a whole new thread about it.

Vayne.8563:

I’ll just reply to this so there’s a record of it that you can’t personally edit.

Why would I edit it? You’ve already been reported for slanderous claims.

If you are more interested in analyzing why I post, to the point where your’e talking about it more than what’s in the OP, its’ in appropriate for the forums, and personal.

Yet falsely accusing me of harassment is appropriate?

I made a long and detailed post responding to the OP’s post. Why don’t you get over yourself and respond to that—if you’re truly interested in non-personal issues.

I don’t care if you don’t like what I post. In fact, I’m quite happy that’s the case, because it means I’ve scored points. If I never scored points, you wouldn’t care at all. What bothers you is that I’m often correct in what I’m saying, so you can’t remain negative without a counterpoint. Sorry if that inconveniences you.

I’m not even sure what that means other than “I’m better than you; you should feel bad.” At least you stick to your guns long after you’ve run out of bullets.

I like how you try to dish out some juvenile insult after engaging in character assassination all in a post that says personal discussion is “inappropriate.”

When are you going to retract and apologize for your slander?