Guild Wars 2

Savior.5783:

There are people claiming Anet are innocent as an attempt to downplay what they’ve done. So you’re wrong there, look at the forums.

Woooo hold your horse there. Correlation does not imply causation.
I am one who think most of the claims are actually wrong not because people are being rude but because their arguments are flawed. Example people claiming they are being cheated by being made to pay for the core game again.

Savior.5783:

Saying a certain attitude is not acceptable, depending on the attitude, when the actions of the attitude do not exist in the first place is wrong.

How the *&^$ are you silenced by other peoples’ rudeness? Can you not still post? Are you being physically restricted? Garbage.

I didnt say we are being silenced by rudeness I am saying asking for politeness is not silencing you like you’re claiming (I here means those who are requesting respect, you being people who feel they can act as emotionally as they feel like)

Savior.5783:

Also I never implied or even said that I was being victimized. Did you even read my post?

And you’re implying being rude and calling people names is unjustified in any case, when that’s simply wrong.

I don’t think you even read or responded to my post at all. You’re all over the place and make no sense.

yes certainly implied it. Your whole argument is people shouldnt try to silence you by expecting you to be polite doing that is and I quote you “disgusting” because essentially and I quote again “the person, in pretending to be a victim, is attempting to shut down said criticism and thus is a “liar” who opposes attempt at truth. They also use the severity and nature of actual victims and thus downplay true victim’s suffering, and this especially is what makes such people immoral and shameless in their delusion because they are purposefully ignorant or careless towards the suffering of real victims and to the validity of criticisms”

and thats not mentioning prior posts like “the people who are using this on behalf of Anet seem to be the type to genuinely believe that they are the victims in this whole debacle” doesnt this imply you’re (as a group) the real victims here?

Xenon.4537:

From what I saw, any angry hateful posts were by players attacking other players for simply complaining in the first place. I saw a lot of condescending parody threads, making critics out like they are cheapskates who want free stuff for nothing. It’s no wonder an angry reaction blew up when there are so many trolls running around dismissing honest discussion with insults and parody.

I’ve actually been keeping out of this mess for now and sticking to reading, and this was pretty much what I witnessed. There are always going to be some people who make unreasonable demands, but there was a whole lot of the opposing side jumping in with the attitude of “shut-up and deal with it.” And that attitude is guaranteed to help the situation pretty much never.

Knighthonor.4061:

Wow seriously. .this is getting out of hand. Anet say something… release some info…. do something. …stop with the silent treatment. …

No. Do not do this. Do not give into whining, unreasonable demands and internet bullying.
It’s like a weak parent giving their kid toys and candy to shut them up. People should vote with their wallets if they don’t find value in the product. There is no excuse for all this insanity. We are way past a meaningful dialogue and ArenaNet should have no patience for their intolerance and hate.
I’m not a dev, but these people are ruining the game for me. 5-6 people were spamming the teq chat, whispering people to sign some stupid petition to boycott GW2 and go play FFXIV. It’s pathetic.

Galen Grey.4709:

no down voting comments is not harassment, down voting as a form of an attack is yes.

as with everything else there are degrees of severity.

noun: attack; plural noun: attacks

1.
an aggressive and violent action against a person or place.

Downvoting is not an attack, otherwise disagreement is an attack.

Sad Swordfish.9743:

Knighthonor.4061:

Wow seriously. .this is getting out of hand. Anet say something… release some info…. do something. …stop with the silent treatment. …

No. Do not do this. Do not give into whining, unreasonable demands and internet bullying.
It’s like a weak parent giving their kid toys and candy to shut them up. People should vote with their wallets if they don’t find value in the product. There is no excuse for all this insanity. We are way past a meaningful dialogue and ArenaNet should have no patience for their intolerance and hate.
I’m not a dev, but these people are ruining the game for me. 5-6 people were spamming the teq chat, whispering people to sign some stupid petition to boycott GW2 and go play FFXIV. It’s pathetic.

Yes, do not give many of your consumers who are the source of a part of your income any attention. Real smart.

Bullying can be justified, and the vast majority of people against HoT aren’t bullying Anet.

Galen Grey.4709:

Savior.5783:

There are people claiming Anet are innocent as an attempt to downplay what they’ve done. So you’re wrong there, look at the forums.

Woooo hold your horse there. Correlation does not imply causation.
I am one who think most of the claims are actually wrong not because people are being rude but because their arguments are flawed. Example people claiming they are being cheated by being made to pay for the core game again.

Savior.5783:

Saying a certain attitude is not acceptable, depending on the attitude, when the actions of the attitude do not exist in the first place is wrong.

How the *&^$ are you silenced by other peoples’ rudeness? Can you not still post? Are you being physically restricted? Garbage.

I didnt say we are being silenced by rudeness I am saying asking for politeness is not silencing you like you’re claiming (I here means those who are requesting respect, you being people who feel they can act as emotionally as they feel like)

Savior.5783:

Also I never implied or even said that I was being victimized. Did you even read my post?

And you’re implying being rude and calling people names is unjustified in any case, when that’s simply wrong.

I don’t think you even read or responded to my post at all. You’re all over the place and make no sense.

yes certainly implied it. Your whole argument is people shouldnt try to silence you by expecting you to be polite doing that is and I quote you “disgusting” because essentially and I quote again “the person, in pretending to be a victim, is attempting to shut down said criticism and thus is a “liar” who opposes attempt at truth. They also use the severity and nature of actual victims and thus downplay true victim’s suffering, and this especially is what makes such people immoral and shameless in their delusion because they are purposefully ignorant or careless towards the suffering of real victims and to the validity of criticisms”

and thats not mentioning prior posts like “the people who are using this on behalf of Anet seem to be the type to genuinely believe that they are the victims in this whole debacle” doesnt this imply you’re (as a group) the real victims here?

Like I said, I’m not a victim here. Didn’t say it, didn’t imply it, so stop insisting that I am.

Explain how it is wrong to be rude and disrespectful towards somebody who is rude and disrespectful against innocent people.

Savior.5783:

…..Bullying can be justified….

…No, just no…

Kurogami.9210:

Savior.5783:

…..Bullying can be justified….

…No, just no…

Agreed.

Savior.5783:

Sad Swordfish.9743:

Knighthonor.4061:

Wow seriously. .this is getting out of hand. Anet say something… release some info…. do something. …stop with the silent treatment. …

No. Do not do this. Do not give into whining, unreasonable demands and internet bullying.
It’s like a weak parent giving their kid toys and candy to shut them up. People should vote with their wallets if they don’t find value in the product. There is no excuse for all this insanity. We are way past a meaningful dialogue and ArenaNet should have no patience for their intolerance and hate.
I’m not a dev, but these people are ruining the game for me. 5-6 people were spamming the teq chat, whispering people to sign some stupid petition to boycott GW2 and go play FFXIV. It’s pathetic.

Yes, do not give many of your consumers who are the source of a part of your income any attention. Real smart.

Bullying can be justified, and the vast majority of people against HoT aren’t bullying Anet.

Bullying cannot be justified. Stop with the victim blaming.

Nobody said about anything about not giving anyone attention. Stop trying to shove this down everyones throat like you are being ignored. Its a piece of entertainment that is constantly being pandered to you with free stuff. Last week and this week. Be grateful.