Guild Wars 2

So yeah, I like that whole portal stone idea. Too bad I have so many sylvari and Asuran characters. You know a charr, human or norn can portal into their home instance and they have all sorts of merchants.

Sylvari you can’t use the portal stone and say, buy a salvage kit, because you don’t have a vendor in there. Admittedly you can sell to the repair guy.

Why should some home instances have more options than others? Why isn’t there a merchant in the Sylvari or Asuran home instance.

What, only the big people get merchants? lol

It’s an attempt to balance the fact that Sylvari always get to be superheroes (Trahearne, Scarlet, Aerin) and Asura are a close second do to Asura-tech being at the center of pretty much everything.

Useful home instances is a way of throwing a bone to the lesser races.

Who cares about the NPCs as long as there is no Banker and TP ?
Thats normally the main reason why i port to Hoelbrak .. and crafting.

NPCs to sell trash can be found everywhere else in the world.

I almost fear that a “home instance banker” and the like will be sold at the gemstore later.

But on topic – I agree.

Beldin.5498:

Who cares about the NPCs as long as there is no Banker and TP ?
Thats normally the main reason why i port to Hoelbrak .. and crafting.

NPCs to sell trash can be found everywhere else in the world.

It’s not really a big deal. But it’s added value to a portal stone is all. If they’re selling portal stone to home instances for 900 gems, I want all the amenities.

I never actually noticed that, but I agree it’s kind of a silly oversight.

On the other hand, there’s zero chance in hell that I’ll ever buy that portal stone, I’d rather pay a few silver if I want to teleport. ^^

Gaebriel.3754:

I never actually noticed that, but I agree it’s kind of a silly oversight.

On the other hand, there’s zero chance in hell that I’ll ever buy that portal stone, I’d rather pay a few silver if I want to teleport. ^^

While it still may not be worth it to you, the real value in the new Home Portal Stone is you get to port BACK to where you were. That is the best part.

I have a Royal Terrace Pass (which I love), so the using the Home Portal Stone would be of little use to me (other than gathering). But….the ability to port back to where you were? That’s attractive!

(Still, I doubt I would buy one anytime soon, if ever.)

Still awaiting the people that did calculations on the accountbound tools to state how many decades you have to play to make up for the cost, compared to simply paying like 2 silver to go to a waypoint of choice (since its free back to a merchant through sPvP, the actual teleport to merchant thing is completely pointless).

Vayne.8563:

What, only the big people get merchants? lol

To make up for jumping puzzle inequity? :\

You can already go to WvW home borderland and do most things. Exiting with using the exit button puts you right back where you were. So to me , the portal stone has no value.

Give me a banker and a TP merch and I’ll buy the stone that day and be happy. Though the OP is right that they should all have the same merchant availability. Without those things though, I’m not really interested.

Plus they set the price at 900gems so you are forced to buy 1600 gems (if you are strictly using real money and not gold). It’s kind of insulting actually.

Didn’t know about this. As much as I dislike asurans I do think that all races should receive equal development treatment.

There really isn’t any incentive to even use the Home instance, unless you want to mine nodes and RP.

Draknar.5748:

Plus they set the price at 900gems so you are forced to buy 1600 gems (if you are strictly using real money and not gold). It’s kind of insulting actually.

Even then i wouldn’t buy it .. only if its an accountwide achievement.
Spent enough gold already for my 13 endless mining picks, 7 sickles and 8 axes ^^

Just imagine if Mordremoth destroys all the wp’s….. then this thing will have some value.

Maybe if we had actual HOMES, it would help. But this heathstone thing? I just don’t see the point of it, especially not at that outrageous price.

Pretty sure this item should only appeal to players with only a very few characters so they can harvest home nodes more easily on a daily basis. It seems to me to be a very specific convenience item (but yes, it does appear to be a bit overpriced to me as well).

It’s good to know that one day when the personal home instance actually does something this item will be available.

So now get working on making the home instance real player housing and I’ll buy one.

Dawdler.8521:

Still awaiting the people that did calculations on the accountbound tools to state how many decades you have to play to make up for the cost, compared to simply paying like 2 silver to go to a waypoint of choice (since its free back to a merchant through sPvP, the actual teleport to merchant thing is completely pointless).

Assuming you teleport once daily, from the max possible distance, you will save kitten a day.

It costs about 130 gold to get the gems for it. I think the price of gems went up a bit but w/e

13000s/4.5s=2888

2889 days for it to pay itself off. Just under 8 years.

Sarrs.4831:

Dawdler.8521:

Still awaiting the people that did calculations on the accountbound tools to state how many decades you have to play to make up for the cost, compared to simply paying like 2 silver to go to a waypoint of choice (since its free back to a merchant through sPvP, the actual teleport to merchant thing is completely pointless).

Assuming you teleport once daily, from the max possible distance, you will save kitten a day.

It costs about 130 gold to get the gems for it. I think the price of gems went up a bit but w/e

13000s/4.5s=2888

2889 days for it to pay itself off. Just under 8 years.

Pretty sure this was priced for people who were willing to pay cash for it.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I have a Royal Terrace Pass (which I love), so the using the Home Portal Stone would be of little use to me (other than gathering). But….the ability to port back to where you were? That’s attractive!

(Still, I doubt I would buy one anytime soon, if ever.)

I’ve got a airship pass so a portal stone wouldn’t be too bad. Although wish I’d gotten the royal pass instead since with LA being reinstated the ability to relatively easily port to different major cities, as stated in the airship pass description http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Captain's_Airship_Pass_, is gone.

GOSU.9574:

Gaebriel.3754:

I never actually noticed that, but I agree it’s kind of a silly oversight.

On the other hand, there’s zero chance in hell that I’ll ever buy that portal stone, I’d rather pay a few silver if I want to teleport. ^^

While it still may not be worth it to you, the real value in the new Home Portal Stone is you get to port BACK to where you were. That is the best part.

So, just like getting to your Borderland WvW area? Only it’s not free, and character bound?

Astralporing.1957:

GOSU.9574:

Gaebriel.3754:

I never actually noticed that, but I agree it’s kind of a silly oversight.

On the other hand, there’s zero chance in hell that I’ll ever buy that portal stone, I’d rather pay a few silver if I want to teleport. ^^

While it still may not be worth it to you, the real value in the new Home Portal Stone is you get to port BACK to where you were. That is the best part.

So, just like getting to your Borderland WvW area? Only it’s not free, and character bound?

It’s not free, it’s character bound, it takes up a slot in your inventory, you don’t have access to the crafting sites and through them your bank and its inventory. You don’t have access to the trading post, a laurel vendor, most merchants or for some races, armor repair. You don’t have the ability to harvest more than a handful of nodes (at most), play, loot or do events. If you leave the instance to do any of this, you will not be able to return to the spot you came from.

Other than that, they’re identical.

If someone doesn’t want to pay 900 gems for the ability to port back to where you came from after going afk and if WvW isn’t an option because of queues, there is PvP. Leaving it returns you to the same site. It’s free. And there is the Hall of Monuments. The portal stone is free, available to every person, has a portal directly to LA and returns you to the site you came from.

CureForLiving.5360:

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I have a Royal Terrace Pass (which I love), so the using the Home Portal Stone would be of little use to me (other than gathering). But….the ability to port back to where you were? That’s attractive!

(Still, I doubt I would buy one anytime soon, if ever.)

I’ve got a airship pass so a portal stone wouldn’t be too bad. Although wish I’d gotten the royal pass instead since with LA being reinstated the ability to relatively easily port to different major cities, as stated in the airship pass description http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Captain's_Airship_Pass_, is gone.

Are you sure the Helmsman no longer offers transport to the Asura Gates of different cities? There have been a few threads about trying to port to the Black Citadel and ending up in LA …or vice versa. So, I am confused about no access to the different cities.

I literally see no benefit to using this Stone over porting to your Borderlands. No wait…if there’s a queue to your Borderlands…which has happened to me once ever.

Not to mention BL has TP, banker, merchants, and crafting stations.

Seras.5702:

I literally see no benefit to using this Stone over porting to your Borderlands. No wait…if there’s a queue to your Borderlands…which has happened to me once ever.

Not to mention BL has TP, banker, merchants, and crafting stations.

If you have stuff you gather every day in your home instance, that’s what it’s for. There’s less interuption in your routine if you’re logging in for a very short period of time. Wherever you are, you port to your home instance, mine/chop everything in there. Charge your quartz crystal if you do that, click again and boom, continue whatever you were doing.

It’s pure convenience.

I guess….I just assume it’s cheaper and just as easy to park a toon outside the home instance and use them to mine each day. It’s what I do and it doesn’t cost me 900 gems and it’s super fast.

At least no one can say it’s pay to win. lol

Vayne.8563:

At least no one can say it’s pay to win. lol

I wouldn’t be too surprised if someone finds out also a reason for that

Beldin.5498:

Vayne.8563:

At least no one can say it’s pay to win. lol

I wouldn’t be too surprised if someone finds out also a reason for that

Race Change incoming.

IT’s not even true. Human instance also only has fruit and alcohol sellers….

EthanLightheart.9168:

IT’s not even true. Human instance also only has fruit and alcohol sellers….

Hmm .. i remember i bought some white lowlevel armor and weapons there in Beta or shortly after release when the TP was not working.

I’m waiting for someone to say he can shave 10 seconds off key runs …

There is another thread about this, but i’ll post all this here to hopefully get more attention to it.

Currently
“The offered services in home instances are as of this post’s writing:
Charr – Weaponsmith, Armorsmith, General Goods Merchant
Norn – Weaponsmith, Armorsmith, Tavern, Minor Foods Merchant
Human – Weaponsmith, Armorsmith, Tavern, Minor Foods Merchant
Sylvari – Repair
Asura – none”

I personally contacted support requesting they add the same merchants to the other races that are lacking (i play asura) and this is the response I got from ANET SUPPORT…

“Also let us inform you that while not every instance have the option to repair, craft, vendors and others you do have the portal gate that will take you straight to your City where you should be able to sell and take advantage of every other NPC and their purpose.”

As said in the other thread, not only is this a canned answer, it’s also a wrong answer to the whole point of the portal stone. If i use the stone to go to the asuran home instance, then walk through the portal to Rata Sum to find a vendor, it breaks the portal stone return to starting location.

Given the current situation and how Anet has decided to handle this situation…I recommend all Asurans and Sylvaris to DO NOT SPEND MONEY ON THE PORTAL STONE. DO NOT BUY GEMS (hoping that don’t buy gems statement will scare Anet and they’ll fix the issue).

it’s 2014, say no to racism. #NoRacismAgainstAsuransAndSylvari

There is no use in buying the home portal stone when the royal terrace/ship above vigil HQ has it all.

Just saying

EthanLightheart.9168:

IT’s not even true. Human instance also only has fruit and alcohol sellers….

Wiki says the Salma instance has an armorsmith, Helatia and a weaponsmith, Balthamus. There also is a merchant that sells Belcher’s Bluff kits, Josef, as well as a Belcher’s bluff Champion, Maddie.

Vayne.8563:

So yeah, I like that whole portal stone idea. Too bad I have so many sylvari and Asuran characters. You know a charr, human or norn can portal into their home instance and they have all sorts of merchants.

Sylvari you can’t use the portal stone and say, buy a salvage kit, because you don’t have a vendor in there. Admittedly you can sell to the repair guy.

Why should some home instances have more options than others? Why isn’t there a merchant in the Sylvari or Asuran home instance.

What, only the big people get merchants? lol

because “equality” is another word for “everything is the same and boring”

its perfectly enjoyable that they are all different and have their own advantages and disavantages

Duke Nukem.6783:

Vayne.8563:

So yeah, I like that whole portal stone idea. Too bad I have so many sylvari and Asuran characters. You know a charr, human or norn can portal into their home instance and they have all sorts of merchants.

Sylvari you can’t use the portal stone and say, buy a salvage kit, because you don’t have a vendor in there. Admittedly you can sell to the repair guy.

Why should some home instances have more options than others? Why isn’t there a merchant in the Sylvari or Asuran home instance.

What, only the big people get merchants? lol

because “equality” is another word for “everything is the same and boring”

its perfectly enjoyable that they are all different and have their own advantages and disavantages

Oh good to know. Can you tell us the advantages the Asura home instance has that the others don’t?

If you can’t then it really looks like you are being contrary for its own sake, without anything real to bring to this discussion.

Duke Nukem.6783:

Vayne.8563:

So yeah, I like that whole portal stone idea. Too bad I have so many sylvari and Asuran characters. You know a charr, human or norn can portal into their home instance and they have all sorts of merchants.

Sylvari you can’t use the portal stone and say, buy a salvage kit, because you don’t have a vendor in there. Admittedly you can sell to the repair guy.

Why should some home instances have more options than others? Why isn’t there a merchant in the Sylvari or Asuran home instance.

What, only the big people get merchants? lol

because “equality” is another word for “everything is the same and boring”

its perfectly enjoyable that they are all different and have their own advantages and disavantages

For a home instance? LMAO.

Advantages like that won’t make the game enjoyable or less enjoyable for anyone. Those who played a human who then play an Asuran won’t think wow, having nothing in my home instance is more enjoyable.

This is a misapplied cliche. It’s like when people tell writers to show, not tell. It’s often the wrong advice.

Duke Nukem.6783:

because “equality” is another word for “everything is the same and boring”

its perfectly enjoyable that they are all different and have their own advantages and disavantages

They can (and should) all be different without one being more advantageous than another.