Guild Wars 2

Hi, I’m new to this community well the forum community to be exact. I’ve been playing the game for over 2 months now.
So far I’ve enjoyed the game but the thing is I am casual. I have school and at the very best each night MAYBE an hour or so. See this is where the whole idea ‘this is a casual game’ starts falling apart on me.

As a casual player I can’t on most given days:
Dungeon -over an hour for each run. really??
This new factuals dungeon is for a new group over 2 hours really???

What I can do:
Kill a dragon
Get a heart or 2 done.
Or do the bottom.

Grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, Grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind,Grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind, grind.

I’m level 80 and thats all I’ve heard that they’re is left to do. WellI personally can tolerate grind up to a point but if I have to grind somthing over 50 times (such as most dungeons) well my patience weens. I was told that this game would be a revolution. SO MANY TIMES. Well it is in some aspect however the core ‘we shall make you grind for the sake of grinding’ was promised to be avoided. Thank god I did not start trying for dungeon armor since ascended is out. What a waste that would’ve been.

Oh on a side note: I enjoyed how cooking ingredents like chili peppers can’t be bought via karma anymore. Well that means I can just GRIND for some more.

So I am asking you this: how is this a casual game? It seems hardcore to me. At a time I was thinking of getting a legendary but it seems almost impossible now. I want to do dungeons but the thought of doing the same one over 50 times well makes me cringe. In guildwars1 I eventually got ‘elite’ armor it took a bit of time BUT it was within reason. Ha getting ‘ascended’ the new ‘elite’ seems absurd.

To be honest I feel like aload of promises were made (wait this sounds like politicans are talking?) and aload of contradictory actions were taken (are we sure they are not politicans?)

It’s too casual even for the casuals. And the part that tried different was done wrong.

So it’s either too casual, or riddled with burdensome grind. There is no middle ground no matter what you go after in GW2.

This game is as casual or as hardcore as you want it to be.

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

thats exactly my point.

Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

It’s casual if you want sub par gear. If you want top of the line stuff be prepared to spend countless hours grinding for relics to trade for that gear.

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

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Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

Casual, as in you spent a limited amount of time playing video games each day – that type of a ‘casual player’?

If so… then yah, this is a casual game that you’ll like

WARNING: Do not play it too fast, or else it will make you become anti-MMO like it made most of my buds who’s now quit the game. The less quickly you find out what the game’s endgame is like, the better^~

Irrelevant. Try again. This isn’t a sport. It’s a game. It’s a game that boasted that people who grinded longer wouldn’t be more powerful than those who have jobs.

perfectly casual. As long as you ignore the forums (in general, get info off of Wiki). If you want to be “semi-hardcore” then turn on general chat in LA.

Chat in LA is better though. No one asks why you can’t duel, or writes a big “I’m leaving letter”!

Both have their share of players prancing about like they are the top breed of MOA bird, but whatever……..

It was casual, but not anymore.

It’s now grind to win.

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

Shoes in real life don’t add +5 to run speed. In this game they do.

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Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

Shoes in real life don’t add +5 to run speed. In this game they do.

touche, my friend.

Casual game?

Lion’s Arch now seems like Dalaran of Wrath of the Lich King (LFM Fractals only diff. x+) and in the future you we’ll see also the ascendant prerequisite.

No, this is not a casual game. If you can grind and you like Super mario bros dungeon is ok, otherwise Anet thinks you don’t deserve any respect.

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

I suck at sports more complex than bowling, but I do love watching England win a rugby match (Swing low sweet chariot…). It would be a hollow victory if they fielded 16 players to the other team’s 14. Not a real victory, rather a pre-determined advantage. Welcome to vertical stats…

Columba.9730:

Irrelevant. Try again. This isn’t a sport. It’s a game. It’s a game that boasted that people who grinded longer wouldn’t be more powerful than those who have jobs.

Sports are a type of a game too, and like any game in order to be competitive you actually have to play the game. So if you expect to be competitive at anything by putting minimal time into it then you have no idea what you are doing at all.

maina.5389:

perfectly casual. As long as you ignore the forums (in general, get info off of Wiki). If you want to be “semi-hardcore” then turn on general chat in LA.

Chat in LA is better though. No one asks why you can’t duel, or writes a big “I’m leaving letter”!

Both have their share of players prancing about like they are the top breed of MOA bird, but whatever……..

So in summary:

If you want to know about the sad truth of the game – come chat with the players on the forum.

If you just want to play the game without feeling sad as kitten – then just chat with other players in-game who also enjoys playing the game…. (cuz they’re also playing it!)

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Great advice!

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

Shoes in real life don’t add +5 to run speed. In this game they do.

Have you ever went from worn out running shoes that you wore for years to brand new running shoes?

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Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

Shoes in real life don’t add +5 to run speed. In this game they do.

Have you ever went from worn out running shoes that you wore for years to brand new running shoes?

I have but the performance increase, if any, reaches a plateau very quick. Not so in this game. Your performance continues to increase with the stats on the gear.

In real life there is a limit, whereas in this game there is none. In the game, as long as your gear increases, so does your performance.

There’s no limit assuming the gear trend continues. You know what they say about people who assume?

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Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

If the shoes had +5 to run speed on them, sure.

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Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

If the shoes had +5 to run speed on them, sure.

What do you think the difference between $20 shoes and $200 shoes is?

Regizer.1763:

There’s no limit assuming the gear trend continues. You know what they say about people who assume?

That goes both ways.

Did you read the blog post? The whole “this is only the beginning” part? Well, this is only the beginning. There will be more gear added in future patches as per the blog post.

Consider the fact that currently the infusions are only blue quality and that they will be upgraded as times goes by also. Knowing that infusions add stats, it’s a pretty safe bet that performance will continue to grow with better gear.

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Columba.9730:

Irrelevant. Try again. This isn’t a sport. It’s a game. It’s a game that boasted that people who grinded longer wouldn’t be more powerful than those who have jobs.

Sports are a type of a game too, and like any game in order to be competitive you actually have to play the game. So if you expect to be competitive at anything by putting minimal time into it then you have no idea what you are doing at all.

so where are my rocket boots for putting time into it, lol?

I put time into wvwvw to learn my class, not so that I am given better gear. I think my analogy fits sports far better than does your.

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

If the shoes had +5 to run speed on them, sure.

What do you think the difference between $20 shoes and $200 shoes is?

not rocket boosters.

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Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

If the shoes had +5 to run speed on them, sure.

What do you think the difference between $20 shoes and $200 shoes is?

Dude, you’re applying real life example to a video game. In real life if you fall 20 meters, you’ll seriously hurt yourself, in the game, you slow down for a second and your health regens to full.

This is a video game, real world examples do not apply.

Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

Irrelevant. Try again. This isn’t a sport. It’s a game. It’s a game that boasted that people who grinded longer wouldn’t be more powerful than those who have jobs.

Sports are a type of a game too, and like any game in order to be competitive you actually have to play the game. So if you expect to be competitive at anything by putting minimal time into it then you have no idea what you are doing at all.

so where are my rocket boots for putting time into it, lol?

I put time into wvwvw to learn my class, not so that I am given better gear. I think my analogy fits sports far better than does your.

I hate to quote myself but here you go

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

krookie.6378:

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Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

If the shoes had +5 to run speed on them, sure.

What do you think the difference between $20 shoes and $200 shoes is?

Dude, you’re applying real life example to a video game. In real life if you fall 20 meters, you’ll seriously hurt yourself, in the game, you slow down for a second and your health regens to full.

This is a video game, real world examples do not apply.

Um, I’m not talking about fantasy part of the game. What do you have to do in real world to be competitive? and what do you have to do in game to be competitive?

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Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

Irrelevant. Try again. This isn’t a sport. It’s a game. It’s a game that boasted that people who grinded longer wouldn’t be more powerful than those who have jobs.

Sports are a type of a game too, and like any game in order to be competitive you actually have to play the game. So if you expect to be competitive at anything by putting minimal time into it then you have no idea what you are doing at all.

so where are my rocket boots for putting time into it, lol?

I put time into wvwvw to learn my class, not so that I am given better gear. I think my analogy fits sports far better than does your.

I hate to quote myself but here you go

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

If you want to be competitive then you need to buy rocket booster for your shoes?

Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

Irrelevant. Try again. This isn’t a sport. It’s a game. It’s a game that boasted that people who grinded longer wouldn’t be more powerful than those who have jobs.

Sports are a type of a game too, and like any game in order to be competitive you actually have to play the game. So if you expect to be competitive at anything by putting minimal time into it then you have no idea what you are doing at all.

so where are my rocket boots for putting time into it, lol?

I put time into wvwvw to learn my class, not so that I am given better gear. I think my analogy fits sports far better than does your.

I hate to quote myself but here you go

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

If you want to be competitive then you need to buy rocket booster for your shoes?

You can buy rocket booster for your shoes in real world? Where do you live cause I want to move there

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no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

If the shoes had +5 to run speed on them, sure.

What do you think the difference between $20 shoes and $200 shoes is?

Dude, you’re applying real life example to a video game. In real life if you fall 20 meters, you’ll seriously hurt yourself, in the game, you slow down for a second and your health regens to full.

This is a video game, real world examples do not apply.

Um, I’m not talking about fantasy part of the game. What do you have to do in real world to be competitive? and what do you have to do in game to be competitive?

Apparently in the real world I have to put on my +5 running shoes and I’m well on the way to qualify for the Olympics.

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

If the shoes had +5 to run speed on them, sure.

What do you think the difference between $20 shoes and $200 shoes is?

Dude, you’re applying real life example to a video game. In real life if you fall 20 meters, you’ll seriously hurt yourself, in the game, you slow down for a second and your health regens to full.

This is a video game, real world examples do not apply.

Um, I’m not talking about fantasy part of the game. What do you have to do in real world to be competitive? and what do you have to do in game to be competitive?

Apparently in the real world I have to put on my +5 running shoes and I’m well on the way to qualify for the Olympics.

Yep just like in game if you got ascended gear you are the best PvPer, amiright?

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Columba.9730:

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

If the shoes had +5 to run speed on them, sure.

What do you think the difference between $20 shoes and $200 shoes is?

Dude, you’re applying real life example to a video game. In real life if you fall 20 meters, you’ll seriously hurt yourself, in the game, you slow down for a second and your health regens to full.

This is a video game, real world examples do not apply.

Um, I’m not talking about fantasy part of the game. What do you have to do in real world to be competitive? and what do you have to do in game to be competitive?

Apparently in the real world I have to put on my +5 running shoes and I’m well on the way to qualify for the Olympics.

Yep just like in game if you got ascended gear you are the best PvPer, amiright?

You’re missing the point, which is that you cannot use real life examples in relation to a video game.

In real life, I can buy a $100 boxing gloves or $20 boxing gloves but neither of those gloves will make my punches stronger.

In GW2, ascended gear will make me punch stronger, regardless of my ability as a player. See the difference?

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

If the shoes had +5 to run speed on them, sure.

What do you think the difference between $20 shoes and $200 shoes is?

Dude, you’re applying real life example to a video game. In real life if you fall 20 meters, you’ll seriously hurt yourself, in the game, you slow down for a second and your health regens to full.

This is a video game, real world examples do not apply.

Um, I’m not talking about fantasy part of the game. What do you have to do in real world to be competitive? and what do you have to do in game to be competitive?

Apparently in the real world I have to put on my +5 running shoes and I’m well on the way to qualify for the Olympics.

Yep just like in game if you got ascended gear you are the best PvPer, amiright?

You’re missing the point, which is that you cannot use real life examples in relation to a video game.

In real life, I can buy a $100 boxing gloves or $20 boxing gloves but neither of those gloves will make my punches stronger.

In GW2, ascended gear will make me punch stronger, regardless of my ability as a player. See the difference?

Please show me where you can buy boxing gloves that cost $100 and don’t have some kind of gimmick.

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Columba.9730:

no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

If the shoes had +5 to run speed on them, sure.

What do you think the difference between $20 shoes and $200 shoes is?

Dude, you’re applying real life example to a video game. In real life if you fall 20 meters, you’ll seriously hurt yourself, in the game, you slow down for a second and your health regens to full.

This is a video game, real world examples do not apply.

Um, I’m not talking about fantasy part of the game. What do you have to do in real world to be competitive? and what do you have to do in game to be competitive?

Apparently in the real world I have to put on my +5 running shoes and I’m well on the way to qualify for the Olympics.

Yep just like in game if you got ascended gear you are the best PvPer, amiright?

You’re missing the point, which is that you cannot use real life examples in relation to a video game.

In real life, I can buy a $100 boxing gloves or $20 boxing gloves but neither of those gloves will make my punches stronger.

In GW2, ascended gear will make me punch stronger, regardless of my ability as a player. See the difference?

Please show me where you can boxing gloves that cost $100 that don’t have some kind of gimmick.

Are we seriously having this discussion? The price of the gloves doesn’t matter… Dude, look, please concentrate for a second. Real life and video games are completely different things. You cannot use examples from one in reference to the other. They simply do not apply.

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no. it’s no longer casual friendly. 90 hours per piece of gear to be competitive isn’t casual friendly.

If you want to be competitive then you are no longer a casual player and I’m not talking about gear.

I don’t play games to be cannon fodder either. that’s not my idea of fun.

You play any sports?

Irrelevant, but I am a long distance runner. I don’t consider this a sport. I consider this a game.

Oh it is relevant, would you say you would be able to be a competitve long distance runner just because you got amazing running shoes?

If the shoes had +5 to run speed on them, sure.

What do you think the difference between $20 shoes and $200 shoes is?

Dude, you’re applying real life example to a video game. In real life if you fall 20 meters, you’ll seriously hurt yourself, in the game, you slow down for a second and your health regens to full.

This is a video game, real world examples do not apply.

Um, I’m not talking about fantasy part of the game. What do you have to do in real world to be competitive? and what do you have to do in game to be competitive?

Apparently in the real world I have to put on my +5 running shoes and I’m well on the way to qualify for the Olympics.

Yep just like in game if you got ascended gear you are the best PvPer, amiright?

You’re missing the point, which is that you cannot use real life examples in relation to a video game.

In real life, I can buy a $100 boxing gloves or $20 boxing gloves but neither of those gloves will make my punches stronger.

In GW2, ascended gear will make me punch stronger, regardless of my ability as a player. See the difference?

Please show me where you can boxing gloves that cost $100 that don’t have some kind of gimmick.

Are we seriously having this discussion? The price of the gloves doesn’t matter… Dude, look, please concentrate for a second. Real life and video games are completely different things. You cannot use examples from one in reference to the other. They simply do not apply.

Video games are part of real life, as you say, so same concepts apply. And unlike you I’m not making things up to make a point.

You made up the running analogy, lol. Shoes can’t make you run faster irl. Ascended gear can make you hit harder. End of story.

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You made up the running analogy, lol. Shoes can’t make you run faster irl. Ascended gear can make you hit harder. End of story.

Funny you said that after deleting or editing your post about how better shoes do make you run faster

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Video games are part of real life, as you say, so same concepts apply. And unlike you I’m not making things up to make a point.

Dude, what are you talking about? This is a fictional universe with a very liberal approach to the laws of physics, amongst other things. Which is understandable because it’s a video game, a work of fiction set in a fantastical universe.

There are no concepts in GW2 that you can apply to the real world. There are some similarities, sure, but you cannot use a video game as a reference to real life. It just doesn’t work.

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Video games are part of real life, as you say, so same concepts apply. And unlike you I’m not making things up to make a point.

Dude, what are you talking about? This is a fictional universe with a very liberal approach to the laws of physics, amongst other things. Which is understandable because it’s a video game, a work of fiction set in a fantastical universe.

There are no concepts in GW2 that you can apply to the real world. There are some similarities, sure, but you cannot use a video game as a reference to real life. It just doesn’t work.

I hate to spell it out for you but the concept that applies to both GW2 and real world is becoming better at something. You say you want to be a NFL player, well then you better put time and effort in order to get there. You say you want to be competitve in GW2, well you better put time and effort in order to do so.