Guild Wars 2

I heard there was an Announcement from Anet saying that they wanted Kiel to win, can someone link me the page>?

There never were such announcement.

another conspiracy thread I presume? Here are two possible scenarios:

a) anet wants Kiel to win: They create an elaborate event which includes a voting “game” for the players, they invest company time and manpower in this. Players seem to favor the other candidate. The lamentation of anet employees can be heard throughout the whole city “OH NOEZ; WE WANTED KIEL TO WIN; what are the players doing? – we have to fix this!” They manipulate the votes.
b) anet wants Kiel to win: They create an event without player participation in the election process. Kiel wins, storyline continues according to original design.

So, what do you think? Here some little help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

I’ve saved heaps.. HEAPS of money in way-pointing, so personally I’m happy she won

To be honest, I am much more likely to use a way point now because of the cheaper cost. I feel that the current price is what the price should have been set at from the very start of the game. Maybe we can petition this to be a permanent fixture?

It’s easy to say that ArenaNet wanted Kiel to win because some of them did. Without any details, the statement is true, however the opposite is also. ArenaNet themselves were split on who they wanted to win.

Of course you can go into the whole conspiracy of some devs wanting one to win more than the other, thus internally influencing who would be more favorable. For example, a very basic influence was the red vs blue, left vs right and so on, though for the most part, everything was an opposite of the other.

biofrog.1568:

I’ve saved heaps.. HEAPS of money in way-pointing, so personally I’m happy she won

To be honest, I am much more likely to use a way point now because of the cheaper cost. I feel that the current price is what the price should have been set at from the very start of the game. Maybe we can petition this to be a permanent fixture?

I don’t get it. Are you insanely poor, or just really poor?

Balkanwarrior.5132:

biofrog.1568:

I’ve saved heaps.. HEAPS of money in way-pointing, so personally I’m happy she won

To be honest, I am much more likely to use a way point now because of the cheaper cost. I feel that the current price is what the price should have been set at from the very start of the game. Maybe we can petition this to be a permanent fixture?

I don’t get it. Are you insanely poor, or just really poor?

Not that is is relevant to the topic, but rich people who make it themselves also do so by spending wisely.

Let me bring some tin foil hats

Algreg.3629:

Balkanwarrior.5132:

biofrog.1568:

I’ve saved heaps.. HEAPS of money in way-pointing, so personally I’m happy she won

To be honest, I am much more likely to use a way point now because of the cheaper cost. I feel that the current price is what the price should have been set at from the very start of the game. Maybe we can petition this to be a permanent fixture?

I don’t get it. Are you insanely poor, or just really poor?

Not that is is relevant to the topic, but rich people who make it themselves also do so by spending wisely.

Yes because when you have 1000+ gold from flipping on the TP, you’re going to look back at the 5g total you spent on waypoint costs and say ‘’Hmm, look at how wise I am in my spending!’’

I just want to know where that person is coming from. I met tons of people during the election who were voting solely because of cheaper waypoints. When I had 3g total and 1 level 80, I was making more then enough to cover waypoint costs just from playing the game. You literally have to have 10 copper in your wallet to be legitimate about your waypoint woes. Sounds pretty stupid to be that stingy about a few coppers and maybe 2-3 silver

During one of the Twitch feeds one Anet employee expressed that he wanted Evon to win, since he would have liked to work on the Abaddon fractal.

I’ve seen a couple employee posts in various parts of the forums going both ways. It was, ultimately, up to the players. Sorry, you simply got out-voted.

There was never an official link that said that Anet wanted Kiel to win.

What there was was some of the devs declaring their preference for Kiel, just like there were several others (including Colin) that prefered Evon.

Balkanwarrior.5132:

Algreg.3629:

Balkanwarrior.5132:

biofrog.1568:

I’ve saved heaps.. HEAPS of money in way-pointing, so personally I’m happy she won

To be honest, I am much more likely to use a way point now because of the cheaper cost. I feel that the current price is what the price should have been set at from the very start of the game. Maybe we can petition this to be a permanent fixture?

I don’t get it. Are you insanely poor, or just really poor?

Not that is is relevant to the topic, but rich people who make it themselves also do so by spending wisely.

Yes because when you have 1000+ gold from flipping on the TP, you’re going to look back at the 5g total you spent on waypoint costs and say ‘’Hmm, look at how wise I am in my spending!’’

I just want to know where that person is coming from. I met tons of people during the election who were voting solely because of cheaper waypoints. When I had 3g total and 1 level 80, I was making more then enough to cover waypoint costs just from playing the game. You literally have to have 10 copper in your wallet to be legitimate about your waypoint woes. Sounds pretty stupid to be that stingy about a few coppers and maybe 2-3 silver

Add it up, its more than you think. I waypointed 35 times on Monday to save running time to different baloons. 35 * 2.35(let’s say this was a fair average) = 82s 35c in 1 albeit excessive day. If yo don;t think about how much your spending on waypointing and just do it and have been playing since release you have probably spent in the neighborhood of 30g waypointing. Which if you have 1000g+ I’ll give you is not much, but 30g is non-negligible not just to the poor.

Have people crying over this yet? Well. I hope this works to Anet learn for never more do “Politics” in a game.

You know I thought Evon losing would shut the conspiracy theorists up, considering that a win for Evon would mean more sales for Anet.

But seriously guys?

MauricioCezar.2673:

Have people crying over this yet? Well. I hope this works to Anet learn for never more do “Politics” in a game.

its cool mighty one, once for a while Anet decided to the player base cummunity to select wich content they wanted by a weird system vote (they had to keep players voting more than once).

Edited due high Engrish lvl.

if i’m not mistaken waypoint in the same map cost now 1s11c previously was 1s38c…
it doesn’t sound so much better than before…

Algreg.3629:

Balkanwarrior.5132:

biofrog.1568:

I’ve saved heaps.. HEAPS of money in way-pointing, so personally I’m happy she won

To be honest, I am much more likely to use a way point now because of the cheaper cost. I feel that the current price is what the price should have been set at from the very start of the game. Maybe we can petition this to be a permanent fixture?

I don’t get it. Are you insanely poor, or just really poor?

Not that is is relevant to the topic, but rich people who make it themselves also do so by spending wisely.

Time is money my friend. You can make back the money spent in a waypoint very quickly with the time saved by using said waypoint.

I believe Kiel was introduced to us in a more personal touch through living stories, while Gnashblade only made his appearance (and a small one) during Zephir Sanctum.

So yes. Kiel has a headstart.

Amadan.9451:

if i’m not mistaken waypoint in the same map cost now 1s11c previously was 1s38c…
it doesn’t sound so much better than before…

WP price depends on two things:
-your level
-distance to WP

So you’d actually have to compare the WP cost pre and post patch from the same spot.

If you’re suggesting ArenaNet fixed the election then you’re accusing them of fraud. The outcome of the election was presented as being entirely in our hands. And because they sold “support boosters” for real money, anything less would be fraud. Even if there weren’t criminal or civil liabilities for such actions (I don’t think there would be), if it ever got out that the election was rigged from the start their reputation and credibility would be severely damaged. I don’t think ArenaNet is going to do anything that stupid for a fictitious election.

I had a similar theory. Evon was so stereotypically criminal and aggressive in his dialogue that I felt it was a skewed vote from the get go. If it wasn’t for the Abbadon fractal, Kiel would have won by a landslide. Interestingly enough, it was the scoundrel aspect of Evon that gave him a more compelling personality, so it would have been cool to see what Anet did with his story. Its fun to think about, at any rate!

Fortus.6175:

Let me bring some tin foil hats

It’s been brought to my attention in the recent past that the vast majority of aluminum foil available to the public is not thick enough to prevent electromagnet radiation from controlling you (provided mind-control via EM radiation exists, of course). What it comes down to is power vs. thickness. a given thickness of foil will block a certain percentage of EM radiation at a particular frequency. It’s fairly easy for the government to generate high-powered EM radiation, and foil just isn’t thick enough to block a significant amount.
The co-worker I discussed this with and I did some math and found that at low frequencies (which are said to be the mind-control area of the spectrum), extra-heavy-duty Reynolds wrap only blocks something like 20% of the EM radiation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penetration_depth

let us bring out the thin foil hut!

alcopaul.2156:

let us bring out the thin foil hut!

Got you covered..

http://englishrussia.com/2010/03/03/tin-foil-hut/

Algreg.3629:

another conspiracy thread I presume? Here are two possible scenarios:

a) anet wants Kiel to win: They create an elaborate event which includes a voting “game” for the players, they invest company time and manpower in this. Players seem to favor the other candidate. The lamentation of anet employees can be heard throughout the whole city “OH NOEZ; WE WANTED KIEL TO WIN; what are the players doing? – we have to fix this!” They manipulate the votes.
b) anet wants Kiel to win: They create an event without player participation in the election process. Kiel wins, storyline continues according to original design.

So, what do you think? Here some little help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Anet creates a voting event where both candidates are not presented equally. One is always shown in positive light, and had a lengthy introduction in previous living stories, while the other is always shown with negative presentation, and has been up to that point known only in name.
Use the link you have supplied yourself, think for a while and tell me what other conclusion can we draw from it.

Even though I wanted Kiel to win cause she is a upstanding citizen, I voted for Evon cause I wanted to see the Abadon fractal. If anything, Anet should have wanted Evon to win so they can make more money off BL keys.

Vol.5241:

Amadan.9451:

if i’m not mistaken waypoint in the same map cost now 1s11c previously was 1s38c…
it doesn’t sound so much better than before…

WP price depends on two things:
-your level
-distance to WP

So you’d actually have to compare the WP cost pre and post patch from the same spot.

Or you could say that with Kiel winning, he saved himself 27 Copper! What a deal!!!

I voted Kiel to once again state that I think waypoint costs are silly. Especially when factored in with repairs.

GW1 had no such costs.

I had hopes that Guild Missions with the promise of “discounted waypoints” as a reward would result in a perma-discount to Guilds that could maintain the reward indefinitely. Alas, I don’t think this is the case. (Granted, I gave up on Guild Missions long ago as they’re not really friendly to guilds with less than 30 people.)

Fortus.6175:

Let me bring some tin foil hats

Should be a new cosmetic headgear item from the gem store.

I still want a tin foil hat in the game. Need to make sure they are trade able though.

Tin foil hat.
Increase Duration of Confusion
% chance that will cause confusion to self upon being hit.

how is there even any doubt about what the election was about

“kiel has sex appeal”

done. this is what you can expect from male gaze, after all.

Wow they really don’t like to lose…

One thing I never saw mentioned, was that if Evon won that would have meant a greater probability of the stats gurus doing further stats on chest loot, and a potentially small benefit to buyers of creating more supply of the rarer chest drops.

As for someone spending a gold a day on WP travel, I really have to ask, are you sure you are doing it right? LOL!

we humans like to see patterns in everything…. if Evon had won people right now would be pointing at colin & elisabeth wearning evon pins, multiple arenanet employees publicly stating their support for evon etc..

Now that kiel won those same exact reason that didnt change in anyway are being interepreted as just a ruse to hide the fact they wanted keil to win or because they knew players were going to vote for the candidate they didnt support etc..

It is easy for us human to interpret events to fit the meaning we want to give them.

They didnt need to do the election, so if they had an issue with one of the candidate wining they could have easily avoided that. IF they had an issue with i dont know say abaddon fractal would be too much work they could also just as easily promised a different easier fractal.

There is just no reason why they had to rig the election.