Guild Wars 2

And with the title, I meant stop now in following the plan as stated in the news post. We’ve been dry of new content ever since Season 2 Finale! I BEG of you – Use the Lion’s Arch rebuilding plan as a gateway to add new content!

Perhaps a quadrant of Lion’s Arch can be fixed every month, with meta events to go with each month. We visually get to see each part get fixed if enough events are completed/funds, items or materials gathered. If the part isn’t fixed by the time the next City Quadrant gets added, then players still have the choice between which quadrant they wish to work on!

Example: Month A – North-West of Lion’s Arch gets the ability to be COMMUNITY fixed.
Month B – North-East
Month C – South-East
Month D – South-West

In each month that we can fix Lion’s Arch, there are corresponding events and things to do. I think many other players would WELCOME something new to do whilst we wait for the expansion! Just see this, ArenaNet, as a chance to PROVE the players that we actually do have an impact on the world around us.

EXAMPLES FOR EVENTS IN REBUILDING LION’S ARCH: (please help suggest some for ANet, perhaps they might do it…)

• Kill some surviving minions of Scarlett that got burried. Clear the area containing them.
• A few undetonated mines have been fined all around this quadrant: Find them and bring them to the detonation site WITHOUT harming them on the way (similiar to Escort the Dolyak event).
• A few toxic spores have been festering under the ruble. Whole fields of them are toxifying the land in LA – Help purity the ground and destroy the spores & offspring.
• Some unpatient inhabitants of Lion’s Arch are having a mutiny against Ellen Keel -Find these hidden trouble makers and execute them for treachery.
• The vast sewers of Lion’s Arch are harboring some criminals that took advantage of the distraction Scarlett created – flush them out and find their leader!
• The breachmaker has some Power Cores left in it. Retrieve them before they get into the wrong hands and watch out for any surviving Steamwork minions.
• Help find the right materials in the surrounding area of which new buildings can be made of (this involves meta events around the LA map, with scientists analysing the surrounding rocks for inspection as a possible building material)

At the end of each meta, a big world boss could come out, themed to the meta events.
I don’t even care about new rewards or achievements. Just give us regular loot we can already get and copy & paste them to the drop table of the bosses. Just give us SOMETHING TO DO PLEASE <3

It takes them about four months to create things like you’re suggesting. I’d rather not have them stop everything for four months … I want HoT before then!

Donari.5237:

It takes them about four months to create things like you’re suggesting. I’d rather not have them stop everything for four months … I want HoT before then!

It takes them a LOT less time to develop a quadrant a time, with additional events to accompany them.

You’re saying that making a WHOLE city takes less time then adding a QUARTER of a city with some events to go with them?

I beg to differ.

no I like how they’re doing it now.

Donari.5237:

It takes them about four months to create things like you’re suggesting. I’d rather not have them stop everything for four months … I want HoT before then!

It came from RB at ANet herself if you read the post here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/This-week-s-special-surprise/page/3#post5081060

and I quote:
“the game development process and the fact that we have different teams working on different features.”

Therefore there would be no delay on HoT if the Lion’s Arch team were to add in Dynamic events.

Having said that, I’m not crazy on the OP suggestions. I would like to see a few dynamic events and collection events (go out into the world and find a certain item and bring it back). With the addition of a few achievements. Nothing too fancy but something to keep up slightly interested in the current game, as it stands now… Cuz frankly it’s becoming stale…. FAST!

Coopziana.1802:

Nothing too fancy but something to keep up slightly interested in the current game, as it stands now… Cuz frankly it’s becoming stale…. FAST!

YES!!! You get what I mean!
Many of my friends quit the game and are waiting for the expansion… I feel so alone at the moment !!

I just want something new to do while we wait!!

Aww man I miss LA. Especially before they merged servers. Lots of interesting stuff on chat.

Derigar.7810:

Coopziana.1802:

Nothing too fancy but something to keep up slightly interested in the current game, as it stands now… Cuz frankly it’s becoming stale…. FAST!

YES!!! You get what I mean!
Many of my friends quit the game and are waiting for the expansion… I feel so alone at the moment !!

I just want something new to do while we wait!!

Totally with you on this mate, I saw your post (which we may get merged lol). It is such an obvious move and I actually got quite excited when I logged in today… but then I realised there was no new content… other than a few NPC’s and scaffolding… which was really disappointing.

As I said in my OP, I’m not moaning about the rebuild itself cuz I’m excited to see what the new LA will look like and look forward to seeing all my favourite places fixed up and made better. Just a shame we couldn’t be more involved in the ever changing world where:

“OUR ACTIONS AFFECT THE WORLD AROUND US” #justsayin’

That’s what Anet said from the start… now our actions don’t mind the slightest difference cuz the NPC’s are doing it all…. Which is lame.

Yes people can argue that in previous chapters we did events to raise the funds, but I’m pretty sure that even if no-one did those events we would still see the same results… Therefore our actions mean “Squat”. The world is changing regardless of what we do, so our actions are meaningless…

Would have been nice to actually assist in building LA again, at least it would feel like we were actually changing the world (even though it’s quite clear we are not).

Coopziana.1802:

Derigar.7810:

Coopziana.1802:

Nothing too fancy but something to keep up slightly interested in the current game, as it stands now… Cuz frankly it’s becoming stale…. FAST!

YES!!! You get what I mean!
Many of my friends quit the game and are waiting for the expansion… I feel so alone at the moment !!

I just want something new to do while we wait!!

Totally with you on this mate, I saw your post (which we may get merged lol). It is such an obvious move and I actually got quite excited when I logged in today… but then I realised there was no new content… other than a few NPC’s and scaffolding… which was really disappointing.

As I said in my OP, I’m not moaning about the rebuild itself cuz I’m excited to see what the new LA will look like and look forward to seeing all my favourite places fixed up and made better. Just a shame we couldn’t be more involved in the ever changing world where:

“OUR ACTIONS AFFECT THE WORLD AROUND US” #justsayin’

That’s what Anet said from the start… now our actions don’t mind the slightest difference cuz the NPC’s are doing it all…. Which is lame.

Yes people can argue that in previous chapters we did events to raise the funds, but I’m pretty sure that even if no-one did those events we would still see the same results… Therefore our actions mean “Squat”. The world is changing regardless of what we do, so our actions are meaningless…

Would have been nice to actually assist in building LA again, at least it would feel like we were actually changing the world (even though it’s quite clear we are not).

+1

Derigar.7810:

Donari.5237:

It takes them about four months to create things like you’re suggesting. I’d rather not have them stop everything for four months … I want HoT before then!

It takes them a LOT less time to develop a quadrant a time, with additional events to accompany them.

You’re saying that making a WHOLE city takes less time then adding a QUARTER of a city with some events to go with them?

I beg to differ.

Yeah, Donari is right. Level/zone building rocks! But not when you are constantly redoing the map breaking big rocks into little rocks. Becomes more like a chain gang. In no way “easier”, especially not when the old map is already in archive, would only take a flick of Gandalf’s mighty staff to reactivate.

Anyway, that takes the art department, which are very likely mostly assigned to HoT at this point (my observation), while we have mostly only seen the work of programmers on the live game. Eventually the art department will be finished with HoT and return, eventually.

Derigar.7810:

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• Some unpatient inhabitants of Lion’s Arch are having a mutiny against Ellen Keel -Find these hidden trouble makers and execute them for treachery.
  …

… executing citizens? like those asking for SAB? really?

They have already said that ppl should organize their own celebrations of some sort (and maybe the game gods will join in) and that is great. I would LOVE to see a more structured approach other than something you can do whenever though and not a clone of wintersday’s kick-the-skritt-and-get-a-prezzie either. I would love it to run over several days and be something you can get a title for as a momento of the event (‘I was at LA before it was cool’?).

Derigar.7810:

Coopziana.1802:

Nothing too fancy but something to keep up slightly interested in the current game, as it stands now… Cuz frankly it’s becoming stale…. FAST!

YES!!! You get what I mean!
Many of my friends quit the game and are waiting for the expansion… I feel so alone at the moment !!

I just want something new to do while we wait!!

Well then, personally I wouldn’t consider them friends or the kind of people that should play GW2. GW2 you make your own fun in, if you find the content stale…that’s each persons own problem…even if you are doing the same thing over and over(I personally have been doing SW since it opened, with the only diversions being doing the different dailies…and I still have fun, because it’s a great way to relax at the end of the day, especially if a co-worker kittened you off…picture someones face on an enemy and have at them, perfectly legal and you won’t get thrown in jail).

I suggested several months ago that they rebuild LA with community involvement using events like resource gathering and the like, but I suspect ANet’s plans here are pretty set in stone other than the names of the places (ie, the thing that requires the smallest amount of effort to change)

So is this change going to be gradual or are we going to wake up one morning with a brand new LA. We’ve been watching the same npc’s smacking their heads against the same structures for a year now with no progress. What all of their hard labor is finally going to bare fruit with a magical appearance of a new city?

Anet should have started this process 12 months ago and slowly phased in a new Lions Arch 1 building at a time. It would have been a truly immersive experience to watch the city slowly evolve.

You know… they could just open SAB…

rapthorne.7345:

I suggested several months ago that they rebuild LA with community involvement using events like resource gathering and the like, but I suspect ANet’s plans here are pretty set in stone other than the names of the places (ie, the thing that requires the smallest amount of effort to change)

They had all that time to figure out what to do with LA’s rebuilding process back then, and that would have been the prime time to ‘get the community involved’ like what happened with the Karka farce.

For those that remember, we were forging armours, food, etc. for shipment to aid people, troops in particular, in exchange for Captain’s Council Commendations. If you listen to Miyani near the Forge, when you talk to her, sometimes she says a relic of that time… “I hope you’re here to help”. The point of that exercise was that it got us involved in the process of getting things back on their feet again, same with Wintersday 2013, we were an integral part of helping things being restored (LA, DR, it didn’t matter) with donations as such.

Missed opportunity, devs. Very short-sighted indeed.

In my opinion the moment LA was destroyed it should have become a Team Death Match WvW map…

I’m not sure all the suggestions that say, ‘Just turn on SAB, or Queen’s Pavilion, etc…it’s just flipping a switch’ would be welcomed. Look what happened with just some art changes to a zone. Repercussions all over the game. It may not be as easy or innocuous as it seems.

This small thing may have delayed the upcoming release, alone.

I completely agree!

Community events in Lion’s Arch so that we, the players, are rebuilding the city in some shape or form is exactly what I want!

Right now, I’m farming events in Silverwastes which is fun – and lucrative – but that’s pretty much all I’m doing. (And I pick up “rubble” to rebuild outposts there everyday, so…) Lion’s Arch hasn’t even been on my mind and when I waypoint over, I just pass by the npc builders without a second thought. I’m completely disconnected from the rubble of the city because I accepted awhile ago that there was nothing that players could really do about it.

But if Arena Net could just throw us a bone and create a few community events in Lion’s Arch, that would be awesome! As a player, I’d be more excited about the upcoming changes, I’d be playing more often, and I’d make sure not to miss any celebrations after the building is complete.

The events wouldn’t have to be all super involved. And the events don’t all have to be action/combat-related either. They could be diplomatic and fund-raising (like some of you have mentioned.)

Maybe we have to help calibrate the new Asura gates which actually could be combat-related if there is any issue with the gates and monsters come through. *Maybe even – surprisingly – out of a gate there is one appearance of an upcoming monster that we will see in the expansion, reminding us of what’s coming to Tyria. (Wishful thinking!)

Maybe we have to venture to all the major cities to bring back something unique that will help forge a new Lion’s Arch. Maybe we also have to bring back supplies from locations around Tyria or from bosses we kill.

Guys! Maybe we have to kill the world bosses (like the – ya know – dragons!) who each have a new unique drop which we then need to take back to Lion’s Arch. Maybe we have to create something out of all of them using the Mystic Forge!

See, there’s lots of things that just involve developing some inventory items and and some npc dialog. Very possible to avoid costing Arena Net too much development time. (Of course, they may beg to differ. I’d love to hear from a dev on this thread.)

Events after Lion’s Arch is rebuilt would be great too. We need another HOLIDAY, don’t you think? We can celebrate the new Lion’s Arch on the day it is finally rebuilt and again a year later.

straplesscrayon.4327:

I completely agree!

Community events in Lion’s Arch so that we, the players, are rebuilding the city in some shape or form is exactly what I want!

Right now, I’m farming events in Silverwastes which is fun – and lucrative – but that’s pretty much all I’m doing. (And I pick up “rubble” to rebuild outposts there everyday, so…) Lion’s Arch hasn’t even been on my mind and when I waypoint over, I just pass by the npc builders without a second thought. I’m completely disconnected from the rubble of the city because I accepted awhile ago that there was nothing that players could really do about it.

But if Arena Net could just throw us a bone and create a few community events in Lion’s Arch, that would be awesome! As a player, I’d be more excited about the upcoming changes, I’d be playing more often, and I’d make sure not to miss any celebrations after the building is complete.

The events wouldn’t have to be all super involved. And the events don’t all have to be action/combat-related either. They could be diplomatic and fund-raising (like some of you have mentioned.)

Maybe we have to help calibrate the new Asura gates which actually could be combat-related if there is any issue with the gates and monsters come through. *Maybe even – surprisingly – out of a gate there is one appearance of an upcoming monster that we will see in the expansion, reminding us of what’s coming to Tyria. (Wishful thinking!)

Maybe we have to venture to all the major cities to bring back something unique that will help forge a new Lion’s Arch. Maybe we also have to bring back supplies from locations around Tyria or from bosses we kill.

Guys! Maybe we have to kill the world bosses (like the – ya know – dragons!) who each have a new unique drop which we then need to take back to Lion’s Arch. Maybe we have to create something out of all of them using the Mystic Forge!

See, there’s lots of things that just involve developing some inventory items and and some npc dialog. Very possible to avoid costing Arena Net too much development time. (Of course, they may beg to differ. I’d love to hear from a dev on this thread.)

Events after Lion’s Arch is rebuilt would be great too. We need another HOLIDAY, don’t you think? We can celebrate the new Lion’s Arch on the day it is finally rebuilt and again a year later.

Yes! Great idea’s! This is exactly what we need – make the whole rebuilding a community-involved event

Derigar.7810:

It takes them a LOT less time to develop a quadrant a time, with additional events to accompany them.

You’re saying that making a WHOLE city takes less time then adding a QUARTER of a city with some events to go with them?

I beg to differ.

I don’t think you know how Game development works.

Valandil Dragonhart.2371:

rapthorne.7345:

I suggested several months ago that they rebuild LA with community involvement using events like resource gathering and the like, but I suspect ANet’s plans here are pretty set in stone other than the names of the places (ie, the thing that requires the smallest amount of effort to change)

They had all that time to figure out what to do with LA’s rebuilding process back then, and that would have been the prime time to ‘get the community involved’ like what happened with the Karka farce.

For those that remember, we were forging armours, food, etc. for shipment to aid people, troops in particular, in exchange for Captain’s Council Commendations. If you listen to Miyani near the Forge, when you talk to her, sometimes she says a relic of that time… “I hope you’re here to help”. The point of that exercise was that it got us involved in the process of getting things back on their feet again, same with Wintersday 2013, we were an integral part of helping things being restored (LA, DR, it didn’t matter) with donations as such.

Missed opportunity, devs. Very short-sighted indeed.

Yes, an absolute missed opportunity.

In their news announcement, they mention, “But while we don’t have a date for the final unveiling, we can say that—due to the advantages of off-site construction—one morning in the next few months you’ll awake to a newly refreshed Lion’s Arch.”

I shuddered reading that. I’ll just wake up to a new Lion’s Arch? No effort on my part?

Yes, it will be fun exploring the new version of the city, but the devs really could have made us more interested by allowing us to “help” in some way, shape, or form.

straplesscrayon.4327:

Yes, an absolute missed opportunity.

In their news announcement, they mention, “But while we don’t have a date for the final unveiling, we can say that—due to the advantages of off-site construction—one morning in the next few months you’ll awake to a newly refreshed Lion’s Arch.”

I shuddered reading that. I’ll just wake up to a new Lion’s Arch? No effort on my part?

Yes, it will be fun exploring the new version of the city, but the devs really could have made us more interested by allowing us to “help” in some way, shape, or form.

Yeah, I got fooled into hopping on early yesterday to see the new activities that would show up around Lion’s Arch. I was disappointed. :\
And then I did Dry Top for the daily. Then I was even more disappointed.

Bristingr.5034:

Derigar.7810:

It takes them a LOT less time to develop a quadrant a time, with additional events to accompany them.

You’re saying that making a WHOLE city takes less time then adding a QUARTER of a city with some events to go with them?

I beg to differ.

I don’t think you know how Game development works.

I don’t think you know how Game development works.

Derigar.7810:

Bristingr.5034:

Derigar.7810:

It takes them a LOT less time to develop a quadrant a time, with additional events to accompany them.

You’re saying that making a WHOLE city takes less time then adding a QUARTER of a city with some events to go with them?

I beg to differ.

I don’t think you know how Game development works.

I don’t think you know how Game development works.

we may all dont know

But I have a strong feeling anet plan some events in LA. Some smart people already found those Kraka Hatchlings and so far I saw the Plans of LA it looks like they planing it like a Fortress so it will be a kind of Area which be suited for heavy attacks

OP had some good ideas no need to talk him down

Balsa.3951:

Derigar.7810:

Bristingr.5034:

Derigar.7810:

It takes them a LOT less time to develop a quadrant a time, with additional events to accompany them.

You’re saying that making a WHOLE city takes less time then adding a QUARTER of a city with some events to go with them?

I beg to differ.

I don’t think you know how Game development works.

I don’t think you know how Game development works.

we may all dont know

Likely there is a local/community college that offers dev classes, they are a lot of fun and the degree or cert goes a long way. Projects always looking for talented help to get you some exp from there, doing mods, indie projects and on up with more exp. No reason to know nothing and/or think no one else does, opportunities everywhere.

Julie Yann.5379:

So is this change going to be gradual or are we going to wake up one morning with a brand new LA. We’ve been watching the same npc’s smacking their heads against the same structures for a year now with no progress. What all of their hard labor is finally going to bare fruit with a magical appearance of a new city?

Anet should have started this process 12 months ago and slowly phased in a new Lions Arch 1 building at a time. It would have been a truly immersive experience to watch the city slowly evolve.

I’d have loved regular new little things that evolve into a new city, too. But I think they’re getting around the “where did you pull THAT out of?” on the new buildings by doing pre-fab airlifted in buildings. Check the chatter on Deverol Island about the chapel that will arrive that way.

Why develop new content for the opening at all? For example ..

Have game gods scattered around the map with commander tags. At a certain time they start walking to LA. Many other people will join in as they go, some will play instruments, basically like the usual waiting for a boss battle. When they all get to LA they become part of an impromptu parade around the new city. Anet could use the pictures in their advertising to show how living and vibrant the world can be.

I don’t know, when Lions Arch was first destroyed, like many others, I called on the forums for a player involved rebuild. But that was what, a year ago now? Now I’m just happy to finally see work on the city being done; at this point I just want LA back as soon as possible. It would have been nice (like six months ago) to see the city gradually be taken apart and then rebuilt, with numerous patches to show the development, but at this point in time, I think its too late to finally just start rebuilding, so it actually makes more sense that they were already working on it in the background, wherever this offsite location is. And with the reconstruction plan for the cities revival being ‘built offsite, airlifted in, and assembled onsite’ it doesn’t really make sense for us to help in the construction. Hmmmm, still things wouldn’t all be airlifted in in one day, so it would still be nice to see a couple patches showing the gradual construction.

If we think about this from a game development perspective, we know GW2 has a couple project teams so that they may work on various projects at the same time, but I believe at this time members from other teams were pulled in and drawn together to focus on Heart of Thorns, since its both a large undertaking, and a crucial point determining the game’s future. Whether they succeed or fail here doesn’t just change their future development direction, but also whether the game as a whole succeeds or fails. So quoting what Ruby said about a year before Heart of Thorns was announced is a bit… I would say it probably does not apply to this specific project, especially when its so close to its due date. Also, we have to consider that there were probably no event designers in the city development team in the first place, as the components of a city are only: art, terrain, sound, music, characters, and character dialogue. So you’re argument that this team functions separately from the heart of thorns team is invalid, because if they truly do work separately, then they don’t have the right cards on the table to do the kind of events we were requesting. And if they do pull team members from other teams, like players have said, it will slow down development.

Vayne.8563:

If it hasn’t been programmed in already, it’s too late to program it now. Even the simplest changes take a month to do and test and this wouldn’t be a simple change. People don’t seem to have a clue how programming something like this game actually works.

+1’d this because I am a developer. I would add that it is either too late or too expensive at this point to make changes.

Also, I’d rather they be focusing on HoT right now.

While they clearly state everything (or most) will be implemented in one patch “due to the advantages of off-site construction—one morning in the next few months you’ll awake to a newly refreshed Lion’s Arch.” and I completely agree they should have do it in steps. When looking at LA at this moment you would think that is what they are doing but based on the article you would expect it to (after the current state?) be implemented in one patch.

In fact, Anet has always been talking about making the world feel alive and they used mainly events and LS to do so. However imho those fail at it. Sure events make an area feel like there is something going on but because they keep rotating it feels to fake, not like an ongoing life.

The LS are also feel more like a separate story that does not really help to feel the world itself more alive.

What I did feel make the world more like an ongoing living world was for example how the rebuild the Statue after it got destroyed after the first Halloween, and how they rebuild the tower that got destroyed in the Karka attack and how with the first LS episodes you did see more of such small changed where they put up signs for the refugees and later added settlements and so on.

It should only have gone in more, smaller steps.

So to create the feeling they want to create they should indeed build up LA in stages, not with one big (or a few) patch.

So to conclude, I would love to see it being build up much like the last patch does suggest it will go (while I would prefer smaller steps) and not that the next patch or the patch after that suddenly the new LA is there.

Vesuvius.9874:

Vayne.8563:

If it hasn’t been programmed in already, it’s too late to program it now. Even the simplest changes take a month to do and test and this wouldn’t be a simple change. People don’t seem to have a clue how programming something like this game actually works.

+1’d this because I am a developer. I would add that it is either too late or too expensive at this point to make changes.

Also, I’d rather they be focusing on HoT right now.

-1 My dad works at Nintendo. He is a developer as well and he told me you’re wrong.

How about we let the ACTUAL developers give us facts about the development size & time frame? I’m sick and tired of people being their own experts.

Very happy to see the rebuilding of Lion’s Arch. Would like to see events take place where players could assist. Even if it was simply a vendor accepting materials, maybe say Dragonite ore in return for some “Gifts of Lion’s Arch”. Or simply reintroduce a system similar to what was run during the Lost Shores. But who knows, maybe there will be something before it’s fully rebuilt. Regardless, a new Lion’s Arch is under construction. Hurray!!

Nidarrock.5692:

Very happy to see the rebuilding of Lion’s Arch. Would like to see events take place where players could assist. Even if it was simply a vendor accepting materials, maybe say Dragonite ore in return for some “Gifts of Lion’s Arch”. Or simply reintroduce a system similar to what was run during the Lost Shores. But who knows, maybe there will be something before it’s fully rebuilt. Regardless, a new Lion’s Arch is under construction. Hurray!!

Yes please! I’ve got more Dragonite ore than I know what to do with it… ;_;

Derigar.7810:

Vesuvius.9874:

Vayne.8563:

If it hasn’t been programmed in already, it’s too late to program it now. Even the simplest changes take a month to do and test and this wouldn’t be a simple change. People don’t seem to have a clue how programming something like this game actually works.

+1’d this because I am a developer. I would add that it is either too late or too expensive at this point to make changes.

Also, I’d rather they be focusing on HoT right now.

-1 My dad works at Nintendo. He is a developer as well and he told me you’re wrong.

How about we let the ACTUAL developers give us facts about the development size & time frame? I’m sick and tired of people being their own experts.

Lol so mad

Derigar.7810:

Donari.5237:

It takes them about four months to create things like you’re suggesting. I’d rather not have them stop everything for four months … I want HoT before then!

It takes them a LOT less time to develop a quadrant a time, with additional events to accompany them.

You’re saying that making a WHOLE city takes less time then adding a QUARTER of a city with some events to go with them?

I beg to differ.

Derigar.7810:

I’m sick and tired of people being their own experts.

Yeah me too. Really sick and tired of people being their own experts. Good job shooting yourself in the foot.

Derigar.7810:

I’m sick and tired of people being their own experts.

But.. that’s exactly what you are doing…

I don’t think you know how Game development works.

And apparantly neither do you.

Derigar.7810:

Vesuvius.9874:

Vayne.8563:

If it hasn’t been programmed in already, it’s too late to program it now. Even the simplest changes take a month to do and test and this wouldn’t be a simple change. People don’t seem to have a clue how programming something like this game actually works.

+1’d this because I am a developer. I would add that it is either too late or too expensive at this point to make changes.

Also, I’d rather they be focusing on HoT right now.

-1 My dad works at Nintendo. He is a developer as well and he told me you’re wrong.

How about we let the ACTUAL developers give us facts about the development size & time frame? I’m sick and tired of people being their own experts.

Sorry but I don’t believe you. I’ve talked to too many developers for too many years to believe this. Too many developers have weighed on this forum. We have developers in my guild. Hell we’ve had Anet employees in my guild and we’ve spoken to them.

You can want what you want all you want…but it’s not going to happen.

Vayne.8563:

Derigar.7810:

Vesuvius.9874:

Vayne.8563:

If it hasn’t been programmed in already, it’s too late to program it now. Even the simplest changes take a month to do and test and this wouldn’t be a simple change. People don’t seem to have a clue how programming something like this game actually works.

+1’d this because I am a developer. I would add that it is either too late or too expensive at this point to make changes.

Also, I’d rather they be focusing on HoT right now.

-1 My dad works at Nintendo. He is a developer as well and he told me you’re wrong.

How about we let the ACTUAL developers give us facts about the development size & time frame? I’m sick and tired of people being their own experts.

Sorry but I don’t believe you. I’ve talked to too many developers for too many years to believe this. Too many developers have weighed on this forum. We have developers in my guild. Hell we’ve had Anet employees in my guild and we’ve spoken to them.

You can want what you want all you want…but it’s not going to happen.

Thank you Vayne. Your post about sums it up. Everyone else, feel free to continue speculating about the what ifs.

Vayne.8563:

Derigar.7810:

Vesuvius.9874:

Vayne.8563:

If it hasn’t been programmed in already, it’s too late to program it now. Even the simplest changes take a month to do and test and this wouldn’t be a simple change. People don’t seem to have a clue how programming something like this game actually works.

+1’d this because I am a developer. I would add that it is either too late or too expensive at this point to make changes.

Also, I’d rather they be focusing on HoT right now.

-1 My dad works at Nintendo. He is a developer as well and he told me you’re wrong.

How about we let the ACTUAL developers give us facts about the development size & time frame? I’m sick and tired of people being their own experts.

Sorry but I don’t believe you. I’ve talked to too many developers for too many years to believe this. Too many developers have weighed on this forum. We have developers in my guild. Hell we’ve had Anet employees in my guild and we’ve spoken to them.

You can want what you want all you want…but it’s not going to happen.

I understand what you’re saying and I do get where you’re coming from, however I just find this a missed opportunity to inject some freshness in the current game.

This is not a big thing I’m asking. It’s a valid excuse for ArenaNet to give us an event, how small it may as well be.

I’m not disagreeing that an event would have been nice. I’m just saying that at this point asking for one won’t get us one that hasn’t already been in the pipeline a while.

At least give us hammers so we can start repairing stuff ourselves. I can hit the same spot with a hammer for months on end just as well as any npc.

Donari.5237:

I’m not disagreeing that an event would have been nice. I’m just saying that at this point asking for one won’t get us one that hasn’t already been in the pipeline a while.

How can you be so sure? Can’t I be hopeful and wonder if they might have something in the bag for us? Perhaps they can recycle older or existing events and rework it somehow…

I just don’t understand how everyone is so docile at the moment. I adored the Chinese New Year event as it gave us something to do, but that was 4 (?) months ago… Is it truly that hard from them to recycle or re-add some older content? Anything at all…?

If they have it in the bag, it’s in the pipeline and we’ll get it. Those hidden karka babies could be a hint as to something. All I (and a few others) am saying is that we can’t stop the presses and get a brand new thing whipped up if it wasn’t already planned before this thread requested it. I include recycled content in that because they still have to mesh it in with other things, make sure it doesn’t cause game breaking bugs when juxtaposed with the current build, and spend dev time inserting relevant NPC’s, scenery, and instances.