Guild Wars 2

Hello, to you the reader,

I come from the Sanctum of Ral server. Earlier today, I was reading the chat as someone asked how many people guest on the server. There was no response, but just as I was about to say that many people probably do. Someone shouted in all caps, “LOCAL”, I guess implying that he needed to shut up and talk in local chat, or “/say”. After reading that I decided not make casual conversation with the channel and let it go quiet.

Now I want to enter the Crucible of Eternity, but I don’t know anyone. #sad face#

I was looking at one of the gear vendors and noticed a really awesome looking item that costs Knowledge Crystals. I wanted to ask where Knowledge Crystals come from on the /map channel, but I feared that I would get trolled and flamed.

I used the LFG system for the first time yesterday. I was trying to join a group for Story Mode so I can finally defeat Zhaitan and I got sent to a group doing exploration mode. I died several times, and towards the end, the rest of the team finished the final fight without me, while I struggled to make my way past all the stuff that the party ran passed. When I got out of there, I asked in the /map channel if anyone could help out with the final chapter in the story, but it was dead silent. This has made me hesitant on using the LFG system, because I don’t want to get trolled and flamed by people for not knowing everything there is to know, in this case about the Crucible of Eternity.

There seems to be a semblance of elitism and exclusivity among this community these days, on this server, compared to when the game first launched.

So, now, instead of teaming up with people and doing stuff, I’m sitting back, watching people travel through Gendarran Fields and typing this up.

Sanctum of Ral, home sweet home.

(For anyone that mentions it, no, I’m not in a Guild. I’ve been in two in the past and everyone was kind of doing their own thing. The first Guild had a member that harassed me for not knowing something, followed by 2 people joining in. The second guild just never seemed to do anything or want to do anything when I finally decided to ask. I’m not that interested in joining a guild, because of these two things)

Edit: I’ve decided to quote a few people that have given me some really helpful tips, hopefully this proves helpful for others that are having a similar experience as well

For when finding a group is difficult:
Linnea.5146

My best tip is to start your own LFG and write something like “first time”, maybe also “help appreciated”, and of course specify if you want story mode or explorable. That way you make it clear that you’re not an experienced, fully decked out speed clearer. Has worked for me so far.

To quickly find information about something in the game:
Kumu Honua.2751

the /wiki command

To use the /wiki command, simply type /wiki in the game, and then the thing about Guild Wars 2 that you want to search for. Example: /wiki Knowledge Crystal

A big organization aimed at helping other players:
Morrigan.2809

I can understand that you are weary of guilds- you might want to check out this bunch though

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/players/Operation-Union-Bringing-Players-Together-2/first

For zhaitan finale you need to start your own LFG. The majority do not want the story so any group you join will be explorable. LFG is cross server so anyone from your area NA or EU will see it.
Being nervous to speak in chat is not something anyone can help you with, just try it and see.

I’ll be honest here OP. The issue is with you. Specifically, you seem to be far too meek and scared for some reason or another.

Aediph.2873:

I wanted to ask where Knowledge Crystals come from on the /map channel, but I feared that I would get trolled and flamed.

I wanted to ask where Knowledge Crystals come from on the /map channel, but I feared that I would get trolled and flamed.

So what if you get trolled and flamed? What do you have to lose?

Its the internet. Just take your chances. If you get trolled and flamed, so what? Do you suddenly lose $100 of your personal value?

Just do it. Nike style, and after you’ve done it you can be on the other side trolling and flaming (or not its up to you) others who’re in your current predicament.

Reikou.7068:

I’ll be honest here OP. The issue is with you. Specifically, you seem to be far too meek and scared for some reason or another.

Aediph.2873:

I wanted to ask where Knowledge Crystals come from on the /map channel, but I feared that I would get trolled and flamed.

I wanted to ask where Knowledge Crystals come from on the /map channel, but I feared that I would get trolled and flamed.

So what if you get trolled and flamed? What do you have to lose?

Its the internet. Just take your chances. If you get trolled and flamed, so what? Do you suddenly lose $100 of your personal value?

Just do it. Nike style, and after you’ve done it you can be on the other side trolling and flaming (or not its up to you) others who’re in your current predicament.

My objective, in this case, was to gain practical information/answers. Why ask a question when the odds of getting trolled/flamed far exceed the odds of not? I just looked the info up, problem solved. The journey continues. ^.^

My best tip is to start your own LFG and write something like “first time”, maybe also “help appreciated”, and of course specify if you want story mode or explorable. That way you make it clear that you’re not an experienced, fully decked out speed clearer. Has worked for me so far.

Reikou.7068:

Just do it. Nike style, and after you’ve done it you can be on the other side trolling and flaming (or not its up to you) others who’re in your current predicament.

So, if you are bullied then you can bully back? And that makes everyone happier? No, thanks.

OP, I know this does not help the whole issue, but please, add me to your contacts and feel free to ask those questions anytime I am online. I will try to answer as fast as possible. I don’t know everything, but there is the wiki and dulfy. They usually know the little details I’ve missed.

You need to find some friendly guild. There are lots of people who are bored with GW2 and just try to help newbies.

I would really like to help you with dungeons, but I’m from EU server, so at least I will suggest you to look on wiki, read articles, learn more about the game. You can find the answer for everything there.
Knowledge crystals, walkthroughs…. anything in the game

here:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crucible_of_Eternity

Linnea.5146:

My best tip is to start your own LFG and write something like “first time”, maybe also “help appreciated”, and of course specify if you want story mode or explorable. That way you make it clear that you’re not an experienced, fully decked out speed clearer. Has worked for me so far.

Oh, interesting, I’ll keep this in mind when I use the LFG system next time. Thank you.

Garambola.2461:

OP, I know this does not help the whole issue, but please, add me to your contacts and feel free to ask those questions anytime I am online. I will try to answer as fast as possible. I don’t know everything, but there is the wiki and dulfy. They usually know the little details I’ve missed.

I will keep this in mind, but I usually don’t like bugging people with questions I can just look up :X unless of course it’s for the sake of conversation, which I tend to get carried away with sometimes.

Mortifer.2946:

You need to find some friendly guild. There are lots of people who are bored with GW2 and just try to help newbies.

I would really like to help you with dungeons, but I’m from EU server, so at least I will suggest you to look on wiki, read articles, learn more about the game. You can find the answer for everything there.
Knowledge crystals, walkthroughs…. anything in the game

here:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crucible_of_Eternity

I really need to go over some of the stuff in there. Thanks for posting this link ^.^

Aediph.2873:

Reikou.7068:

I’ll be honest here OP. The issue is with you. Specifically, you seem to be far too meek and scared for some reason or another.

Aediph.2873:

I wanted to ask where Knowledge Crystals come from on the /map channel, but I feared that I would get trolled and flamed.

I wanted to ask where Knowledge Crystals come from on the /map channel, but I feared that I would get trolled and flamed.

So what if you get trolled and flamed? What do you have to lose?

Its the internet. Just take your chances. If you get trolled and flamed, so what? Do you suddenly lose $100 of your personal value?

Just do it. Nike style, and after you’ve done it you can be on the other side trolling and flaming (or not its up to you) others who’re in your current predicament.

My objective, in this case, was to gain practical information/answers. Why ask a question when the odds of getting trolled/flamed far exceed the odds of not? I just looked the info up, problem solved. The journey continues. ^.^

If this is such an issue. You need to learn the /wiki command.

Since you simply cannot deal with people then use the wiki for all your information.

I play mostly alone too OP but my experience has been the exact opposite, I never hesitate to ask anything in map and I have never actually had a negative response.
But I play on Gunnar’s Hold

I can understand that you are weary of guilds- you might want to check out this bunch though

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/players/Operation-Union-Bringing-Players-Together-2/first

This happens on every server and in every MMO. Doesn’t make it any more right, but don’t take it personally – these games are full of ppl who forget they didn’t know once upon a time as well.

I second the suggestion of finding a friendly guild. There are thousands of them some good, some bad. It can take a few tries to find one you will mesh with. And don’t forget you can join several guilds as well, thus increasing your chances of finding a good one.

Failing all that, maybe guest/switch servers/ We’re mostly pretty nice on Gunnars Hold as Morrigan says and there are some excellent commanders who run things like World Tours etc for its community

Kumu Honua.2751:

If this is such an issue. You need to learn the /wiki command.

Since you simply cannot deal with people then use the wiki for all your information.

Yeah, I find the wiki command is very helpful, thank you for the mention of it.

You were lucky to get a group for arah explorable that was capable enough to finish the path and weren’t elitist to the point of kicking you out of the group. From my experiences with arah pugs the group disband after the first wipe on the first skipping part, i dont frequently find high skilled groups good enough to carry a new player.

You didn’t get your personal story done but at least you got some shards of zaithan ^^
So you definitely didnt get trolled, that group was pretty nice.

Casmurro.9046:

You were lucky to get a group for arah explorable that was capable enough to finish the path and weren’t elitist to the point of kicking you out of the group. From my experiences with arah pugs the group disband after the first wipe on the first skipping part, i dont frequently find high skilled groups good enough to carry a new player.

You didn’t get your personal story done but at least you got some shards of zaithan ^^
So you definitely didnt get trolled, that group was pretty nice.

Agreed.

I’m shocked that group went the entire dungeon with you constantly dying and not kicking you. I’m a nice guy but I’m not sure I’d have done the same. Pretty good set of guys you found there.

Guild up. Plenty of decent casual guilds out there. Depending on pugs is like inviting complete strangers to hang out with you. A good guild will teach you the ups and downs of the game, and help you get done the stuff you need to do.

Greetings!

On the one hand, I agree that being sensitive to flames/trolls in an MMO is counterproductive, but on the other hand I disagree that the problem is the OP. He may have an overly shy reaction TO a problem, but that doesn’t means he IS the problem.

Telling him that he’s the problem is blaming the victim, pure and simple.

BB!
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Hobbitz.5831:

Casmurro.9046:

You were lucky to get a group for arah explorable that was capable enough to finish the path and weren’t elitist to the point of kicking you out of the group. From my experiences with arah pugs the group disband after the first wipe on the first skipping part, i dont frequently find high skilled groups good enough to carry a new player.

You didn’t get your personal story done but at least you got some shards of zaithan ^^
So you definitely didnt get trolled, that group was pretty nice.

Agreed.

I’m shocked that group went the entire dungeon with you constantly dying and not kicking you. I’m a nice guy but I’m not sure I’d have done the same. Pretty good set of guys you found there.

Yeah that’s really good food for thought, I was planning to mention that I was amazed I wasn’t kicked, but I left it out and just mentioned that they continued on without me. I remember during the Molten Alliance Living Story, some people got impatient with a few players that were new to the content. It was a mess, the people that knew it tried to run ahead without everyone else and nothing got done. Regardless of how chaotic things get though, pickup groups are what I’ve participated in for the most part, and some groups have been a blast to be a part of for that limited time. I need to head out for now. Thank you for the many tips and responses. I’ll quote more of them if they’ll help people out.

Lilius.9850:

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I’m surprised that you didn’t get kicked through the dungeon run. Next time you should post “first time in this dungeon, need help” or something like that. Don’t join the ones that say “80s only 5kap+ noob gets booted” ones.
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Quick response: I actually did mention to them that it was my first time running through that path and they didn’t kick me for that. They were very, very experienced with the Temple of Arah content and they had no problem with explaining, in detail, their strategies for dealing with each of the major fights and speeding through the extra stuff.

A little bit more detail if anyone is curious about what happened in the Temple of Aura. The problem in that situation was with me in part, because I tried to go back and help another player that couldn’t take two hits from mobs before dieing, which cost me participation in the long run. Anywho, that’s what happened and I shall return.

Add me mate! My ign is-Micah Greaney

I’ll answer any questions you have! Eh, hopefully. Unfortunately, I’m not on Sanctum of Ral, but I’m game for helping you do dungeons and crap.

By the way, there was a guy earlier in this thread who was saying you’re too timid or something like that? Don’t listen to him, but to some extent he has a point. Only to some extent. To the extent that you shouldn’t give a crap what trolls and Flamers think of you. I swear some gamers exist just to degrade other gamers and make them feel bad. Just ignore those haters! Everyone starts somewhere and they started there once.

Anyways, add me if you want! Either way, good luck with the rest of the game!

When it comes to dungeons, yes the game community has developed a elitist subset.

To them, either you speed clear or you can’t come near dungeons at all.

Oh, and they will defend the zerker meta with every cell of their body. Wanting to play anything but topped out zerker builds is to them a sign of weakness to be mocked and shunned.

You know, when I first read the OP, my thought was that the person who wrote ‘LOCAL’ in map chat was actually answering the OP’s question about guesting, and declaring he was a ‘local’, rather than a guest.

If that was all he said, why did you assume he was telling you to chat in /say? Seems more likely, to me, that he was answering you. I guess my advice would be: Don’t assume the worst! Good luck.

Aediph.2873:

Hello, to you the reader,

I come from the Sanctum of Ral server. Earlier today, I was reading the chat as someone asked how many people guest on the server. There was no response, but just as I was about to say that many people probably do. Someone shouted in all caps, “LOCAL”, I guess implying that he needed to shut up and talk in local chat, or “/say”. After reading that I decided not make casual conversation with the channel and let it go quiet.

Shouldn’t really worry about what people say in map chat., they don’t own it, and you weren’t breaking any in game rules.

Around the first month I started playing this game, I was doing shatter, back when getting a rare from a chest was an uncommon event, so when people did get one, they tended to link it in map chat.

When I finally got one, I did the same, and someone started throwing a kitten fit over it it. So I apologized, and left it at that, the person kept on kittening over it though. Since I was new to the game at that time, I thought I had done something rude, but now I know that person was just making a big deal out of nothing. Knowing what I know now, I would not have apologized, and would have ignored them, or started to act obnoxious toward them.

In short, as long as you’re not being a jerk, spamming, or breaking some other in game rule in map chat, you shouldn’t be obligated to “shut up” for anyone, don’t worry about people trying to boss you around in map chat. (unless you’re in WvW, or doing teq or something, and they need map chat clear to give instructions)

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

You know, when I first read the OP, my thought was that the person who wrote ‘LOCAL’ in map chat was actually answering the OP’s question about guesting, and declaring he was a ‘local’, rather than a guest.

If that was all he said, why did you assume he was telling you to chat in /say? Seems more likely, to me, that he was answering you. I guess my advice would be: Don’t assume the worst! Good luck.

Yeah that might have been a bad asumption on my part, but it was typed in all caps and seemed to come out of nowhere. I think there was some kind of small, two-response discussion happening before that, between the person that asked about guesting and someone else. I think I instinctively acted like this from a previous game where when someone said something like “LOCAL” in all caps, it meant, “Shut up and talk in local chat!”. So I didn’t even bother saying anything after that. Normally I just move on and continue my adventures, but I was sitting, watching people coming and going and I started formulating this topic in my head about my experiences over the years and for the past couple of days.

Many awesome responses again, thank you for the feedback

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

You know, when I first read the OP, my thought was that the person who wrote ‘LOCAL’ in map chat was actually answering the OP’s question about guesting, and declaring he was a ‘local’, rather than a guest.

If that was all he said, why did you assume he was telling you to chat in /say? Seems more likely, to me, that he was answering you. I guess my advice would be: Don’t assume the worst! Good luck.

I read it the same way. That the individual replaying with “LOCAL” was actually pridefully expressing that he/she was a “local” from SoR.

Talk in chat all you wish OP! Don’t let anyone quiet you.

After reading this I am a little perplexed. This game was launched in fall of 2012, which OP noted – now that means that OP has played since the beginning of the game and did not know several basic facts – how to use wiki, what a knowledge crystal was, had never done story line and did not know how to use basic lfg. I find this a little ingenuous. And in a dungeon to go back and help another toon and not stick with the folks that know what they are doing? You cannot play that way in this game in those circumstances.
As for chat – the game is rife w adolescent types, no matter their age. That is the demographic that pays the bills for anet so you can ignore silly stuff or not – cause it ain’t gonna change. And if you have played this game for the total time it has been in existence you already know this.
It may be that this game is just not a good fit for you and your needs. If you feel it is or you want it to be you are gonna have to pull up your big girl/boy boots and figure it out. Read the wiki like a book, take notes, go to Dulfy and read all that can be found on GW, watch utubes of places you want to go and have never been to. Treat it like a job so that others do not have to carry you around.
And for heaven sake gear up and weapon up like you mean it. Learn your skills and how to make best use of them for your class. Use food, potions, oils, get some canisters to repair armor along the way. No preparation in the game is like no preparation in life, a detriment to you and all running with you.
I say to you “Buck up! Go forth! Be brave!” But it is your responsibility to make this happen and not depend on others to carry you around. Join a guild but know that the expectations are such that you will quickly be expected to carry your own weight. So use the resources available to you, become informed, learn from others and enjoy yourself.

Foxgloved.3029:

After reading this I am a little perplexed. This game was launched in fall of 2012, which OP noted – now that means that OP has played since the beginning of the game and did not know several basic facts – how to use wiki, what a knowledge crystal was, had never done story line and did not know how to use basic lfg. I find this a little ingenuous. And in a dungeon to go back and help another toon and not stick with the folks that know what they are doing? You cannot play that way in this game in those circumstances.

Foxgloved.3029:

It may be that this game is just not a good fit for you and your needs. If you feel it is or you want it to be you are gonna have to pull up your big girl/boy boots and figure it out. Read the wiki like a book, take notes, go to Dulfy and read all that can be found on GW, watch utubes of places you want to go and have never been to. Treat it like a job so that others do not have to carry you around.
And for heaven sake gear up and weapon up like you mean it. Learn your skills and how to make best use of them for your class. Use food, potions, oils, get some canisters to repair armor along the way. No preparation in the game is like no preparation in life, a detriment to you and all running with you.
I say to you “Buck up! Go forth! Be brave!” But it is your responsibility to make this happen and not depend on others to carry you around. Join a guild but know that the expectations are such that you will quickly be expected to carry your own weight. So use the resources available to you, become informed, learn from others and enjoy yourself.

I don’t think many of the features, like the LFG system were completely implemented during the earlier times of this game and there have been several moments during the this game’s lifetime that I have been gone for extended periods of time (several months on one occasion), so much so that the new information is almost overwhelming for the first couple of days, in combination with some of the stuff that I have yet to experience. (For as long as I’ve been playing, I still haven’t finished the main storyline for my character, nor have I gone through the Crucible of Eternity, among other places.)
I think most of my gear is exotic quality, with appropriate stats for my class and build. Sometimes I just don’t feel confident enough to do what I do in a team though.

Once I spent enough time running with that party in the Temple of Arah, I got a general idea of how aggro worked in there and used a build I had created for myself to best carry people around. It’s the small mistakes that got me in the end though, I mistimed one of my powers and since I was at the back of the group, I took the brunt of the attack from everything that was aggroed. Ultimately though I was more concerned about the hunter that kept dieing trying to get back to the rest of us. I’ve had my share of successful moments in some of these dungeons. Unfortunately, this wasn’t one of them.
(I could have let that hunter die by not staying behind him and taking the damage.)

As for using the wiki, I had forgotten about the command and I kind of wanted to ask another person instead of a machine, which I usually submit a search query to instead of ask someone. I like a good, random, conversation here and there, sometimes they pop up from questions. I largely try to avoid this though if there’s trolling and/or flaming going on.

If I knew more people I’d probably be more eager to jump into these instances and participate in some of the other group stuff, but that’s not now. Maybe in the future, who knows. As you said, I don’t want to hold people back so I largely sit on the sidelines, or do other things, like explore and adventure through the other parts of Tyria. I still do enjoy this game.

Foxgloved.3029:

Treat it like a job

I’m sorry, but unless I’m getting paid to play Guild Wars 2 I just can’t do that, even if it means being unable to help carry others through content. I do try my best though 90% of the time.

I know exactly what you mean, OP. I did my own post a little while ago along the lines of interaction with others, although perhaps I’m solo for other reasons.

Still, were you EU, I’d happily come along with you to do stuff you needed, and wouldn’t care how many questions you asked about anything, I’d still do my best to answer.

I hope you get the game experience you want, and I wish you luck with it!