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Posted by: Safire.9143

Safire.9143

I went to fire up the game and login today, and saw the notifications for the latest updates. I really like boss rework and LFG tool (only beta ? really ?) I really enjoyed GW1, and to this day, I’m convinced it has much more heart as a fantasy MMO game than this new one.

- This game has next to nothing for personal character development, even something as simple as being able to go fishing, or customize pets, build house, Yet the devs are sitting there coding living stories and BL trading items to make more money like boomboxes, infinite coins, they should rather add housing and some furniture into shop, i rather buy that, because this will develop my character to next level….

  • theyre always talking about rewards and rewarding, hell i want to develop my character by playing not to be always rewarded for everything, i want to se this rewards affect my character progression,( i mean for example housing mats droping,pets,mounts ?)* This game isnt about carrot on stick with equip farming, so they should add these small details to feel my chracter is there for 1 year.

I couldn’t do it. Ultimately I just ended up removing the game today. Free or not, it’s just not a fun fantasy world for me anymore. I just feel like my character is running around aimlessly with no real purpose. this does break immersion for mmo game for me, theres nothing lke : Im playing this character for 1 year, so this is my super big house i invested 1000g into furniture and that beautiful paintings, just come and look ! .
This is missing, im not bonded into my character to say : This is my mmo alterego, this is my virtual character, no, this is just character with im playing, so i suggest to make more personal character development. to make more love with characters we are playing, thats the point of MMO, to show everyone how great are you, what u have done, what u earn etc…
I cant even show my PvP rank in pvp, i cant show my real LvL in low lvl zones, players cant inspect me, cant duel me, this is missing and making gw2 players very anonymous and too closed to connect with other players.

I realized all the content being released is just fluff and has very little meaning. Seriously, endgame is a battle to be the most fashionable living being in Tyria. GW2 is a joke compared to the original Guild Wars. A sad, sad joke.

What do you guys think?

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Posted by: Daywolf.2630

Daywolf.2630

So, in other words, another NPC has quit the game? But taking a middle ground here regarding the lack of depth, that’s pretty common with mmo’s early on in their run. I’m more concerned about the future of this game, the direction they seem to have changed to.

Some mmo’s were excellent early on though, then took a hard turn downward (e.g. SWG, EQ1 etc.). Then others that started out mediocre yet over time polished and improved to the point that they have/had 1000x more subscribers/players than they did at launch (I won’t mention such games here).

But for GW2, that’s something you must determine for yourself and your future with the game, what I think about staying or going is of no matter. I mean I may be critical in my posts on forums, have my own opinions of things, but I only post in hopes of improvements to the game I play. Today I play, can’t speak for tomorrow since it’s not tomorrow yet, yet I can determine for myself when it’s time to stay or go since I’ve been playing mmo’s over 15yrs and some of those for 6+ years on a sub. But to stay or go will have nothing to do with someone else’s opinion.

Happy trails.

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Posted by: Paul.4081

Paul.4081

This game has next to nothing for personal character development, even something as simple as being able to go fishing, or customize pets, build house

Maybe we could get to build Trahearne a house? Then be his butler/maid once we build it with our money, blood, sweat and tears.

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Posted by: JDGumby.7685

JDGumby.7685

I couldn’t do it. Ultimately I just ended up removing the game today. Free or not,

Definitely not free. You paid $60 or $40 for it (depending on when you got it, assuming no sales). Just because it’s online doesn’t make it any less a paid game.

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Posted by: Daywolf.2630

Daywolf.2630

I couldn’t do it. Ultimately I just ended up removing the game today. Free or not,

Definitely not free. You paid $60 or $40 for it (depending on when you got it, assuming no sales). Just because it’s online doesn’t make it any less a paid game.

Yep, money and time invested. Might have even bought some gems. But then I’ve spent $40-60 for games and tossed the cd/dvd onto a nameless stack an hour later. Other times… well I bought like Quake1 on launch day for ~$50, still have it installed. Albeit it’s migrated to my Nexus7 now, but still using those same core files from that original disk, and had it on every hard drive since I broke the seal.

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Posted by: Machiavel.6042

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So, in other words, another NPC has quit the game? But taking a middle ground here regarding the lack of depth, that’s pretty common with mmo’s early on in their run. I’m more concerned about the future of this game, the direction they seem to have changed to.

Some mmo’s were excellent early on though, then took a hard turn downward (e.g. SWG, EQ1 etc.). Then others that started out mediocre yet over time polished and improved to the point that they have/had 1000x more subscribers/players than they did at launch (I won’t mention such games here).

But for GW2, that’s something you must determine for yourself and your future with the game, what I think about staying or going is of no matter. I mean I may be critical in my posts on forums, have my own opinions of things, but I only post in hopes of improvements to the game I play. Today I play, can’t speak for tomorrow since it’s not tomorrow yet, yet I can determine for myself when it’s time to stay or go since I’ve been playing mmo’s over 15yrs and some of those for 6+ years on a sub. But to stay or go will have nothing to do with someone else’s opinion.

Happy trails.

Cough SWToR Cough Cough

Well, OP, glad to see you finally found out about the craptacular lack of personal story and role-playing elements of this game ! Better late than never I guess, but hey look at this on the bright side !

We get a revamped boss soon…AREN’T YA HAPPY ?!?

Yeah… >.>

-I don’t suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it- Edgar Allan Poe

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Posted by: Amadan.9451

Amadan.9451

and yet in the next update we get another recicled content!

Looking for a gay friendly guild?
Join the Rainbow Pride

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Posted by: Daywolf.2630

Daywolf.2630

Cough SWToR Cough Cough

Yeah… I didn’t mention that type of game. Was bad, is bad, always will be bad?
Never played it though, I usually research games before I buy, as I did. Didn’t it go f2p or something? Yet another reason for me not to bother. Even GW2, researched. But now I feel like I’m hanging, it’s becoming different than what it was originally pitched as. I’m not the “don’t know what I want” type of player.

Of course not speaking of hype. Hype is another thing, especially concerning early GW2 development talk by non-anet people. Like, the second coming is here and all subscription based games are dooomed forever to the pits of hell. Perfect world peace and little grey aliens have come to save us forever! hehehe

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Posted by: GrandmaFunk.3052

GrandmaFunk.3052

This game has next to nothing for personal character development, even something as simple as being able to go fishing

I stopped reading after your first example of ‘personal character development’ was.. fishing… which has absolutely NOTHING to do with character development.

GamersWithJobs [GWJ]
Northern Shiverpeaks

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

You say this game has no heart like GW1 because it has no fishing, no customization of pets, no furniture/paintings….I can’t say I remember seeing those things in GW1. Must have missed them all during those 7+ years. Dang!

Well, I guess you could kind of customize your pet in the menagerie. So, I will give you that, if you were talking about how aggressive or dire or playful or hearty, etc. they were. Though, you could let them evolve on their own, as many did…I believe. But, I really don’t have the numbers on that.

So, one out of three….

I hope you find your game nirvana out there. Best of luck to you. =)

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Posted by: Safire.9143

Safire.9143

Im not telling only about fishing, im telling about problem that feels like my character is running around aimlessly with no real purpose….

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

ArchonWing.9480

Yea, what’s up with the lack of furniture. I mean, we’re heroes of Tyria and we have to sit on the floor like some bum. The most RP’ing I ever do is sleep on that couch in the Black Lion Headquarters. :S

For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.

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Posted by: Daywolf.2630

Daywolf.2630

Yea, what’s up with the lack of furniture. I mean, we’re heroes of Tyria and we have to sit on the floor like some bum. The most RP’ing I ever do is sleep on that couch in the Black Lion Headquarters. :S

There is a pig pen just south of Beetletun that provides excellent accommodation for a nap while waiting on the SB timer. I highly recommend it.

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Posted by: Wolfheart.1938

Wolfheart.1938

to make more love with characters we are playing,

Ewww. I have 2 charss. DO NOT WANT.

thats the point of MMO, to show everyone how great are you, what u have done, what u earn etc…

It may be for you, it is not for me. While I agree on you that the game lacks heavily in this regard, I don’t think it should be one of their priorities.

Im not telling only about fishing, im telling about problem that feels like my character is running around aimlessly with no real purpose….

But there is no purpose in playing games other than having fun. And I’ve never understood the immersion-people in themepark MMOs. Do you have any suggestion?

“We have no first-person view because stupid people would lock into it”
“You can’t have more than 10 HS decks because that would confuse people”
“30 fps is more cinematic”

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Posted by: JMadFour.9730

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what’s funny is that when(if) they add all that stuff, all most people who are supposed to be interested in this sort of thing are gonna do is continue to sit in a Tavern and type paragraph-long Emotes, rather than actually partake in the Game’s Content.

“Tavern RP” sucks.

/endthreadderailingrant

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Posted by: Creeper.9360

Creeper.9360

Seems odd that you bring up GW1 in this context. GW1 has pretty much the same type of “personal” character development.

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Posted by: Machiavel.6042

Machiavel.6042

Cough SWToR Cough Cough

Yeah… I didn’t mention that type of game. Was bad, is bad, always will be bad?
Never played it though, I usually research games before I buy, as I did. Didn’t it go f2p or something? Yet another reason for me not to bother. Even GW2, researched. But now I feel like I’m hanging, it’s becoming different than what it was originally pitched as. I’m not the “don’t know what I want” type of player.

Of course not speaking of hype. Hype is another thing, especially concerning early GW2 development talk by non-anet people. Like, the second coming is here and all subscription based games are dooomed forever to the pits of hell. Perfect world peace and little grey aliens have come to save us forever! hehehe

Well, turns out when devs don’t listen to the playerbase, and opt for cash instead and quick content…

But, at least story was nice, voice acting was…weird (but at least better than what is supposed to be dialogues in GW2), and you had companions to add some beef to it.

Now if Bioware weren’t such a bunch of wh…kittens (yeah…“kittens” >.>), we could have Mass Effect, in Star Wars…which was the point in the first place you might had, and I’ll give it to you XD

Like I said before, this game doesn’t deserve the “RPG” after the “MMO”.

MMOG sounds perfect to me.

-I don’t suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it- Edgar Allan Poe

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Posted by: Daywolf.2630

Daywolf.2630

Like I said before, this game doesn’t deserve the “RPG” after the “MMO”.

MMOG sounds perfect to me.

That’s pretty much most mmo’s these days. Who coined it? Lord British. On a game that was very strong an RPG on a massive player scale. It’s hard to themepark an RPG, as by nature it leads players around by the hand rather than let them develop the personal aspect of their daily surroundings.

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Posted by: Viking Jorun.5413

Viking Jorun.5413

One word: Roleplay.

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Posted by: Safire.9143

Safire.9143

Personal Story have to be main personal development, but its paintfull how short its, they should bring some little personal story missions every time with some living story, housing + house crafting, drops, blc items ? Yes it would be next “to do” in this “endgame”

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Posted by: LanfearShadowflame.3189

LanfearShadowflame.3189

Interesting…. many of the things you call out as being needed in GW2 for ‘character progression’ do not exist in GW1.

GW1 does not have fishing. It does not have personal housing for us to build. Sure, we could build our guild halls, but that was simply purchasing NPCs…nothing spectacular there really. Nor could we customize pets… (unless you’re referring to evolving them, and really that’s not that immersive…go death leveling yay! ha.)

There was no dueling, there was no inspect feature. Yes, we could link our gear, but not in all chat because of spamming issues. People could not click on us at will and check out what we had on.

Yes, you could /rank and /zrank to show off your pvp or zaishen rank; however due to some people’s abhorrent behavior they had to put a timer oh how often you could do it. I can understand why you can’t /rank someone here. They simply didn’t want to deal with the childishness. It’s the exact same reason why we lack so many emotes, and why so many of them cannot be targeted anymore. Blame the player base for such things, not the devs.

Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

ArchonWing.9480

Yea, what’s up with the lack of furniture. I mean, we’re heroes of Tyria and we have to sit on the floor like some bum. The most RP’ing I ever do is sleep on that couch in the Black Lion Headquarters. :S

There is a pig pen just south of Beetletun that provides excellent accommodation for a nap while waiting on the SB timer. I highly recommend it.

Beats the grass.

Lol, that sure reminds me of something.

I can carry all these oversized swords and bows in my backpack; surely a portable chair isn’t out of the question.

For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.