Guild Wars 2

Make karma vendors give out ascended gear. There, problem fixed! You want to know why? Because in the first few months of the game, people played the game for the world. It was like this from launch until the lost shores, which had many problems. Those problems included the timing for it. I think it would’ve been better had they extended it over a longer period of time and maybe opened it up for some short testing beforehand. (Testing by players: Do this for all updates. Trust me. It works.)

But you want to know what else The Lost Shores implemented? You guessed it, Fractals of the Mists! Now, this likely would’ve been fine had they not put in ascended gear. You see, since Fractals of the Mists is the only place in which you can obtain ascended gear, and since ascended gear is just a better version of exotics, technically. (AKA another tier of gear), and since karma vendors only give out exotics, as do the rest of the dungeons, that is why everybody does fractals.

So my solution? Add ascended gear to karma vendors throughout the world for level 80s, in addition to exotics. To make a reason for exotics, make them more visually appealing (AKA more ‘exotic’), and make the ascended gear more literally appealing (AKA better stats OR more ‘ascending’). That would allow people to get the exotic gear for the looks and the ascended gear for the stats, and combine them to make awesome gear.

Not only by providing this through karma vendors and token vendors bring more people out into the world, it will allow people to say “Hm, I can do dungeons for gear, or I can do dynamic events and get the same rewards. Hmmm… choices. I feel like doing Dynamic Events today, so let’s do that.” instead of saying “Hm, I can do dungeons for gear, or do dynamic events for less gear. Yeah, i’ll do dungeons.”

So in essence, by providing the rewards in fractals to the karma vendors and token vendors for Dynamic Events and for the other dungeons, you’ve just allowed people to make the choice, and the likelihood is that people will switch based on which they ‘feel’ like doing, rather than what they are ‘forced’ to do in the sense of getting better stats. Anybody else agree?

In Summary:

• Make karma vendors for Dynamic Events and token vendors for Dungeons give out ascended gear in addition to Fractals of the Mists. (Most Important)

• Make exotics more visually appealing than ascended gear, but give ascended gear better stats than exotics. (Least Important)

Well in the AMA it was said that the ascended gear was released “badly” and it was never intended to be released through just the FotM. To this end I would like to see it released not only to the karma venders, albeit expensive, but also through crafting and as a chance drop from champs. Even if they only allow it to be attained one other way I would be appeased, because as it sits if you don’t want to grind FotM you will never get any ascended gear.

I think they should reduce the price of exotic gear on karma vendors and give us ascended gear for the current exotic price, considering they nerfed all the fun ways to karma into the ground.

They really should get to this pretty soon though. If they release expansions at the same pace as GW1, it won’t be too terribly long before we see the first expansion. And since they already announced that they definitely plan to increase the level cap in expansions, it would make all this gear null and void and we’ll have to start a brand new gear grind at max level again a la WoW.

Would be a bit much to hand us alternative ways of getting ascended gear only to make it all worthless within a couple months after.

Tolmos.8395:

I think they should reduce the price of exotic gear on karma vendors and give us ascended gear for the current exotic price, considering they nerfed all the fun ways to karma into the ground.

They really should get to this pretty soon though. If they release expansions at the same pace as GW1, it won’t be too terribly long before we see the first expansion. And since they already announced that they definitely plan to increase the level cap in expansions, it would make all this gear null and void and we’ll have to start a brand new gear grind at max level again a la WoW.

Would be a bit much to hand us alternative ways of getting ascended gear only to make it all worthless within a couple months after.

Wow.. really? they’re going to increase the level cap?
Well I might as well stop playing then, because I purchased Guild Wars 2, because it wasn’t like WoW that it constantly upped the level cap, and just gave out new gear.
And “Casual players” could never keep up with the majority of the elitist crowds unless they had really good friends that pulled them along.

Wow.. really? they’re going to increase the level cap?
Well I might as well stop playing then, because I purchased Guild Wars 2, because it wasn’t like WoW that it constantly upped the level cap, and just gave out new gear.
And “Casual players” could never keep up with the majority of the elitist crowds unless they had really good friends that pulled them along.._.

Strikerjolt.5910:

Tolmos.8395:

I think they should reduce the price of exotic gear on karma vendors and give us ascended gear for the current exotic price, considering they nerfed all the fun ways to karma into the ground.

They really should get to this pretty soon though. If they release expansions at the same pace as GW1, it won’t be too terribly long before we see the first expansion. And since they already announced that they definitely plan to increase the level cap in expansions, it would make all this gear null and void and we’ll have to start a brand new gear grind at max level again a la WoW.

Would be a bit much to hand us alternative ways of getting ascended gear only to make it all worthless within a couple months after.

Wow.. really? they’re going to increase the level cap?
Well I might as well stop playing then, because I purchased Guild Wars 2, because it wasn’t like WoW that it constantly upped the level cap, and just gave out new gear.
And “Casual players” could never keep up with the majority of the elitist crowds unless they had really good friends that pulled them along.

Wow.. really? they’re going to increase the level cap?
Well I might as well stop playing then, because I purchased Guild Wars 2, because it wasn’t like WoW that it constantly upped the level cap, and just gave out new gear.
And “Casual players” could never keep up with the majority of the elitist crowds unless they had really good friends that pulled them along.._.

Anet has said in many interviews way before and even after the game was released that their would be level cap increases with expansions.

Angelus.1042:

Strikerjolt.5910:

Tolmos.8395:

I think they should reduce the price of exotic gear on karma vendors and give us ascended gear for the current exotic price, considering they nerfed all the fun ways to karma into the ground.

They really should get to this pretty soon though. If they release expansions at the same pace as GW1, it won’t be too terribly long before we see the first expansion. And since they already announced that they definitely plan to increase the level cap in expansions, it would make all this gear null and void and we’ll have to start a brand new gear grind at max level again a la WoW.

Would be a bit much to hand us alternative ways of getting ascended gear only to make it all worthless within a couple months after.

Wow.. really? they’re going to increase the level cap?
Well I might as well stop playing then, because I purchased Guild Wars 2, because it wasn’t like WoW that it constantly upped the level cap, and just gave out new gear.
And “Casual players” could never keep up with the majority of the elitist crowds unless they had really good friends that pulled them along.

Wow.. really? they’re going to increase the level cap?
Well I might as well stop playing then, because I purchased Guild Wars 2, because it wasn’t like WoW that it constantly upped the level cap, and just gave out new gear.
And “Casual players” could never keep up with the majority of the elitist crowds unless they had really good friends that pulled them along.._.

Anet has said in many interviews way before and even after the game was released that their would be level cap increases with expansions.

I’d really like to have a single source on that. It’s not that I don’t believe you, I’d just like to see the statement for myself.

Mike O’Brien wrote:

“I hope we’ve been clear that GW2 is not a game with virtually no stat progression in it like GW1 was. That’s why GW2 shipped with a higher level cap, and with a hard separation between PVE and PVP.

“In GW1 we never advanced the level cap through four campaigns/expansions. The game design didn’t allow for it. But GW2 was designed without those restrictions, and we’ve always expected that we will someday raise the level cap in GW2.”

Taken from Reddit, reposted here. http://www.gamefront.com/guild-wars-2-level-cap-raise-confirmed-for-future/

And I agree that Karma vendors should start offering more in the way of better/different gear. Accessories/Rings/Amulets would be fantastic!

Great idea if we are labored with this Ascended gear at least make it easier to get, running hundreds of FotM is actually considered grinding… and if in the future this gear is a prerequisite it needs to available to everyone easily..karma is a really good idea..

That’s what Guildwars is about i thought..

I agree with a new Karma sink. Both your ideas are good ones, especially since their will be some sort of ‘progession’ in the future.
I would like to add an idea from another user (I think the name is Leprekan) that suggested precursors be a gold sink sold by NPC’sfor 100-200g account bound on acquire also making the legendary created from it account bound on acquire.
I imagine that people would love something to spend their Karma on after they have gotten all the exotic gear they wanted.

signed! it would bring people back to the world and they could finally start adding those new metas we’ve all been waiting 4 months for.

It takes less time to get to lvl 10+ fractals and get ascended gear than it would to save the karma and buy such a thing. It would have to be exorbitantly expensive due to the status of “between exotic and legendary.”

I have been running lvl 10 dailies for 8 days now. I have gotten THREE ascended rings from daily chests in that amount of time.

This gear is -not- hard to get.

Also: Level 10 fractals are still easier than the easiest dungeons… I don’t know why people are so scared of them. Even at level 19 (my highest level achieved yet), SE Exp makes them look like a cakewalk.

I’ll take a few Ascended items at 84K Karma each please. I’ve got 1,000,000 Karma to spend on that new tier of gear you said we would never have to get, at an affordable price you said we’d never have to grind for.

8 dailies of Fractals for 3 rings? No thank you, at all.

So when are these things coming to WvW? I have tons of badges ready to turn in for better gear.

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

8 dailies of Fractals for 3 rings? No thank you, at all.

So when are these things coming to WvW? I have tons of badges ready to turn in for better gear.

Are you kidding? You couldn’t farm out 3 pieces of karma exotic gear in 8 days…. 3 out of 8 is a steal…

treborIRL.4521:

ascended gear through karama….no thanks! players who get the ascended gear are the ones who deserve it, put in time to run fractals to get ascended gear, and getting it infused to keep on doing fractals. ascended gear is easy to get as it is already. can’t run fractals cause its hard or don’t have the time? don’t worry about ascended gear then. exotics are STILL great.

Arenanet, please don’t ever listen to elitist dungeon runners like this who think their playstyle alone is the only one that deserves items. This sort of mindset would turn this game into the same mindless drivel that World of Warcraft comes from- where those who want the best gear have to grind the same instance over and over and over until their eyes bleed. There needs to be more than 1 way to get this item type, and karma needs to be one of those.

Karma grinders would have to work harder for their items than fractals runners ever did, so if it is a matter of “deserving” it, those who got quick drops in fractals are the ones who are questionable in their worthiness.

Tolmos.8395:

treborIRL.4521:

ascended gear through karama….no thanks! players who get the ascended gear are the ones who deserve it, put in time to run fractals to get ascended gear, and getting it infused to keep on doing fractals. ascended gear is easy to get as it is already. can’t run fractals cause its hard or don’t have the time? don’t worry about ascended gear then. exotics are STILL great.

Arenanet, please don’t ever listen to elitist dungeon runners like this who think their playstyle alone is the only one that deserves items. This sort of mindset would turn this game into the same mindless drivel that World of Warcraft comes from- where those who want the best gear have to grind the same instance over and over and over until their eyes bleed. There needs to be more than 1 way to get this item type, and karma needs to be one of those.

Karma grinders would have to work harder for their items than fractals runners ever did, so if it is a matter of “deserving” it, those who got quick drops in fractals are the ones who are questionable in their worthiness.

The -only- reason you -need- ascended gear is to run fractals. Please explain why agony-resistance buffs are needed by anyone else? The entire reason for AR and Ascended gear to exist is because of the fractals.

Giving it out in any other way makes no sense whatsoever.

Strikerjolt.5910:

Tolmos.8395:

I think they should reduce the price of exotic gear on karma vendors and give us ascended gear for the current exotic price, considering they nerfed all the fun ways to karma into the ground.

They really should get to this pretty soon though. If they release expansions at the same pace as GW1, it won’t be too terribly long before we see the first expansion. And since they already announced that they definitely plan to increase the level cap in expansions, it would make all this gear null and void and we’ll have to start a brand new gear grind at max level again a la WoW.

Would be a bit much to hand us alternative ways of getting ascended gear only to make it all worthless within a couple months after.

Wow.. really? they’re going to increase the level cap?
Well I might as well stop playing then, because I purchased Guild Wars 2, because it wasn’t like WoW that it constantly upped the level cap, and just gave out new gear.
And “Casual players” could never keep up with the majority of the elitist crowds unless they had really good friends that pulled them along.

Wow.. really? they’re going to increase the level cap?
Well I might as well stop playing then, because I purchased Guild Wars 2, because it wasn’t like WoW that it constantly upped the level cap, and just gave out new gear.
And “Casual players” could never keep up with the majority of the elitist crowds unless they had really good friends that pulled them along.._.

Yeah, a lot of people seemed to miss that. I think pre-release Anet spent so much time talking about how unique GW2 was going to be and how it wasn’t like your traditional MMO that people forgot it was an MMO (and therefore will have farming, grinding, increasingly powerful items, and level cap increases to name a few).

Hickeroar.9734:

Tolmos.8395:

treborIRL.4521:

ascended gear through karama….no thanks! players who get the ascended gear are the ones who deserve it, put in time to run fractals to get ascended gear, and getting it infused to keep on doing fractals. ascended gear is easy to get as it is already. can’t run fractals cause its hard or don’t have the time? don’t worry about ascended gear then. exotics are STILL great.

Arenanet, please don’t ever listen to elitist dungeon runners like this who think their playstyle alone is the only one that deserves items. This sort of mindset would turn this game into the same mindless drivel that World of Warcraft comes from- where those who want the best gear have to grind the same instance over and over and over until their eyes bleed. There needs to be more than 1 way to get this item type, and karma needs to be one of those.

Karma grinders would have to work harder for their items than fractals runners ever did, so if it is a matter of “deserving” it, those who got quick drops in fractals are the ones who are questionable in their worthiness.

The -only- reason you -need- ascended gear is to run fractals. Please explain why agony-resistance buffs are needed by anyone else? The entire reason for AR and Ascended gear to exist is because of the fractals.

Giving it out in any other way makes no sense whatsoever.

1. for that stats
2. they said Agony will be coming to other places outside of FotM in the future so everyone will need them, or have to move on.

No. Relics yeah like the other gear but not karma

treborIRL.4521:

ascended gear through karama….no thanks! players who get the ascended gear are the ones who deserve it, put in time to run fractals to get ascended gear, and getting it infused to keep on doing fractals. ascended gear is easy to get as it is already. can’t run fractals cause its hard or don’t have the time? don’t worry about ascended gear then. exotics are STILL great.

you realize that it IS coming to WvW, crafting, other dungeons, Karma vendors, etc., hate to break it to you. The only reason you are going to HAVE to run fractals is most likely for the infusion for Agony. Ascended gear is already easy to get, agreed, but most of the player base doesn’t enjoy grinding for them…in an instance.

You don’t deserve anything, btw. You earned it, but you don’t deserve it anymore than someone who prefers to WvW or do open world events…

Karma is pretty worthless to people who don’t want legendaries, have exotic armor, don’t want cultural weapons. I’m all for more use for karma.

Strikerjolt.5910:

Tolmos.8395:

I think they should reduce the price of exotic gear on karma vendors and give us ascended gear for the current exotic price, considering they nerfed all the fun ways to karma into the ground.

They really should get to this pretty soon though. If they release expansions at the same pace as GW1, it won’t be too terribly long before we see the first expansion. And since they already announced that they definitely plan to increase the level cap in expansions, it would make all this gear null and void and we’ll have to start a brand new gear grind at max level again a la WoW.

Would be a bit much to hand us alternative ways of getting ascended gear only to make it all worthless within a couple months after.

Wow.. really? they’re going to increase the level cap?
Well I might as well stop playing then, because I purchased Guild Wars 2, because it wasn’t like WoW that it constantly upped the level cap, and just gave out new gear.
And “Casual players” could never keep up with the majority of the elitist crowds unless they had really good friends that pulled them along.

Wow.. really? they’re going to increase the level cap?
Well I might as well stop playing then, because I purchased Guild Wars 2, because it wasn’t like WoW that it constantly upped the level cap, and just gave out new gear.
And “Casual players” could never keep up with the majority of the elitist crowds unless they had really good friends that pulled them along.._.

These are completely unconfirmed speculations. If Anet knows anything better now, is to not tamper with the levels, for now at least.

Oh, as for ascended gear, I think they did mention in future updates, more methods of obtaining these gear will become available.. and eventually…. they probably want to put ascended gear as a proper tier.. or not.. depending on how the public react. At the moment now, the stats given by ascended gear are superior but as long as they limit it to accessories it is unnoticeable.