Guild Wars 2

Good news. Are you able to divulge which particular problems have been identified?

I understand this policy, personal opinion of it aside, but what could possibly be so bad in giving any information about this, not like we can do anything about it anyways. The main issue Ive been seeing with megaserver since HoT and especially lately is that it has been working backwards meaning that it gives a prompt that the current instance is closing and lets you go to a new one, but the new instance is less populated sometimes empty and hence there would not have been any progress towards any meta event.

I’ll take some guesses…

Way way way higher population caps.

Map select with visible population numbers.

You will not lose progress on HoT maps if you switch.

Getting stuff fixed up for megaserver wvw launch.

Hope it’s something to address the prevalence of the taxi system players have adopted. It’s making the best of a flawed system but it has some unfortunate drawbacks.

Thank you John!

Swagger.1459:

Map select with visible population numbers.

You will not lose progress on HoT maps if you switch.

These are all I want. I love a low pop map in the evening after work and a high pop one when I play on days off. I want to choose. Please make it so Anet!

zenleto.6179:

Thank you John!

Swagger.1459:

Map select with visible population numbers.

You will not lose progress on HoT maps if you switch.

These are all I want. I love a low pop map in the evening after work and a high pop one when I play on days off. I want to choose. Please make it so Anet!

Yea I would like to be able to choose, sometimes a low pop map is nice when your trying to find events and don’t want to rush around everywhere just to find its already done.

Just go with a District system like in gw1, if the population rises to a certain threshold, new districts will automatically be added that players can choose to go to.

Then once the content is exhausted in that area, the higher districts will start closing starting in descending order.

This might be a situation where giving too little information is worse than giving too much.

One vague post to say that ‘problems’ with megaservers are being fixed and in less than an hour numerous people are speculating that this means we will get exactly the fix they want to exactly the issues that bother them most.

Give it a day and this thread will be proof that Anet promised to implement the things players are hoping for, and if the fixes that are released are in any way different Anet will be seen to have broken that ‘promise’, if not out-right lied about what they planned to do.

Not really megaserver related. but I think for those that disconnect and/or crash, there should be a 60 second grace period where the map remains full except for that one person to come back and join it. After 60 seconds it then opens up for someone else.

The problem is, they don’t want to say what they want to change, in case they actually can’t fix it. That doesn’t mean they won’t do anything, but at least until they have a better idea on how to fix things, they won’t have broken promises.

i cant wait for the resident economist to integrate map instances with some kind of auction system simulating a free market!! the supply of space in a given map is extremely limited and demand for each space is astronomical in certain cases!!

sarcasm aside… can you elaborate any more john? i want gossip on susan, the patron saint of patches!

Ellieanna.5027:

The problem is, they don’t want to say what they want to change, in case they actually can’t fix it. That doesn’t mean they won’t do anything, but at least until they have a better idea on how to fix things, they won’t have broken promises.

Generally speaking I would like it if they actually acknowledged problems and attempted fixes, a lot of their fixes dont work, we are kind of used to that, but some acknowledgement would be nice. I mean he mentioned fixes not something related to content, so I cant see why they cant give any info.

Yay! no more having to post almost daily about this abomination and it’s terrible implementation to get the attention of the Devs. That being said, I’m not getting my hopes up too much regarding the “fix.”

Unless these “fixes” involve spot reservation upon DC then meh.

John Smith.4610:

As per standard business, I can’t say anything about release dates or future content

:(

I bet it has something to do with an algorithm somewhere being clunky dealing with player population distribution. Honestly I still want to know why the district system got axed during the transition from GW1 to GW2. Since GW2 is worked around a heavily modified version of GW1 engine.

This is how devs should communicate about works in progress which can’t be discussed in much detal. Succinct, lets us know the general area of things being worked on.

Bravo, John. First time I can say that in a while.

I would definitely back something similar to the old GW1 districts for the maps. Though that system had its own challenges too, it was definitely something workable for large events.

And on a lighter note… John Smith has paired with Susan for this. Please tell me there is a big blue box involved that is bigger on the inside.

One question… why does the ‘economy’ guy have such interest in how badly the megaservers are functioning?

What minor changes have already been made?

Melanion.4892:

This is how devs should communicate about works in progress which can’t be discussed in much detal. Succinct, lets us know the general area of things being worked on.

Bravo, John. First time I can say that in a while.

Hmm IMO the post is far too vague IMO. Why can’t they say whether its to do with full HOT maps closing just for example?

I thought John Smith was the resident economist?

Is his involvement in this matter an indication of a decision to somehow monetize the megaserver system. Perhaps to create an in game economy around the megaserver?

Ashen.2907:

I thought John Smith was the resident economist?

Is his involvement in this matter an indication of a decision to somehow monetize the megaserver system. Perhaps to create an in game economy around the megaserver?

But think about how the megaservers affect the meta events in HoT. How are rewards dished out for those affected meta events?

How many of those rewards are saleable on the TP?

Now do you see why the economist is interested in making sure the megaservers work properly?

If the problems the megaservers have are causing the actual influx of materials to be more or less than intended or expected, it would have an impact on the game’s economy.

Ashen.2907:

I thought John Smith was the resident economist?

Is his involvement in this matter an indication of a decision to somehow monetize the megaserver system. Perhaps to create an in game economy around the megaserver?

Economists have training in — among other things — statistics. I can see statistics being useful in addressing things like population caps, new shard activation and shard closure due to population shift. If he’s doing the programming, though, look out. :O

deific ~Susan

I always knew God was a woman.

John Smith.4610:

We’ve released some very minor changes already and there will be several phases of fixes applied over the next few months.

megaserver millions…

Er. Ma. Gerd. the conspiracy theories.

John, thank you for being as transparent as policies will allow. I’m glad to hear “we heard you” even if you can’t really go past that.

Wander.5780:

Yay! no more having to post almost daily about this abomination and it’s terrible implementation to get the attention of the Devs. That being said, I’m not getting my hopes up too much regarding the “fix.”

I give John Smith much credit for addressing the issue and for doing so here, on the official forums instead of us, or someone else having to dig the info up from Reddit. That’s a a much needed, and appreciated step forward. I’ll take any little advances for now.

I remember with some pain the advice to just ‘guild up’, to fix problems with people getting seperated by the megaserver.

“Party up”, “Guild up” and “Squad up” … all of the above have produced split groups. It’s particularly fun when the party, in the squad, made entirely of guild members splits, when we change zones.

So if this gets improved, I’ll be less unhappy.

What is that a seat cover? And will it fit a Nissan?

John Smith.4610:

Tenna Tulre.2076:

I would definitely back something similar to the old GW1 districts for the maps. Though that system had its own challenges too, it was definitely something workable for large events.

And on a lighter note… John Smith has paired with Susan for this. Please tell me there is a big blue box involved that is bigger on the inside.

Are you sure he wasn’t talking about SAB?

Edit on topic: Considering what is being written on some posts, this thread might even give them new ideas of how to improve megaservers.

Fear not, for Susan does not abandon her faithful.

Praise be!

morrolan.9608:

What minor changes have already been made?

Melanion.4892:

This is how devs should communicate about works in progress which can’t be discussed in much detal. Succinct, lets us know the general area of things being worked on.

Bravo, John. First time I can say that in a while.

Hmm IMO the post is far too vague IMO. Why can’t they say whether its to do with full HOT maps closing just for example?

Because as soon as he provides one example he opens himself up to feeling obligated to answer every question like “is x getting fixed” and so on.

Furthermore, we know Anet’s tendency to close rank and let Gaile do all the verbal maneuvering she can to try to placate the masses. This is non-specific, but it’s communicative. We know a team is working on it. We know a team is working on a specific issue. We know that the issue is complicated and that they will be releasing various fixes over the next few months. WE GOT A TIMELINE. Do you know how rare that is? I don’t remember the last time when we got a timeline that actually felt honest. None of this “soon” kitten. A few months. Various stages over the next few months. Sure, those few months might stretch into a year, but he’s telling us a fair bit here, actually. Over the course of the next few months we will be receiving updates to a system that has been acknowledged to be flawed. I don’t see the need to want more, really.

That’s good news John. Thank you for sharing.

John Smith.4610:

Tenna Tulre.2076:

I would definitely back something similar to the old GW1 districts for the maps. Though that system had its own challenges too, it was definitely something workable for large events.

And on a lighter note… John Smith has paired with Susan for this. Please tell me there is a big blue box involved that is bigger on the inside.

Weeping Angels confirmed! Mesmers, don’t blink!

Thanks for giving us info in the official forums for once. Thank you thank you thank you.

Please consider the Roleplaying community in your fixes too. We are still here, despite the terrible blow the megaserver system meant for us.

Nice to know, thanks.

Thank You for the heads up, it is Greatly Appreciated!!

thank you John Smith you the man

John Smith.4610:

I’ve recently seen quite a few posts mentioning megaservers. As per standard business, I can’t say anything about release dates or future content, but I can say that we recognized that megaservers were a problem quite some time ago. At that time my squad joined up with the deific ~Susan and her team to begin work on the system. I wanted to tell you that we know there are problems and we’re fixing them. We’ve released some very minor changes already and there will be several phases of fixes applied over the next few months.

That reminds me … whatever happened to the Mystic Forge changes or are they all released already?

John Smith.4610:

Tenna Tulre.2076:

I would definitely back something similar to the old GW1 districts for the maps. Though that system had its own challenges too, it was definitely something workable for large events.

And on a lighter note… John Smith has paired with Susan for this. Please tell me there is a big blue box involved that is bigger on the inside.

Open world pvp maps confirmed!

This master plan will boost ascended gear creation 100 fold and would explain why John bought 4 bajillion thick leather sections recently.

Easy fix for megaservers revert back to the way it was BEFORE megaservers. the big issue of them is the fact serten dynamic events are always successfully competed making sertrn areas devoid of Enemies causing renown points to take forever to finish. (I am looking at you harathi hinterlands)

issue two is that if your on somthing that does not have a decent speed boost like a Guardian alot of times Dyn. events are done before you can reach them.

dusanyu.4057:

Easy fix for megaservers revert back to the way it was BEFORE megaservers. the big issue of them is the fact serten dynamic events are always successfully competed making sertrn areas devoid of Enemies causing renown points to take forever to finish. (I am looking at you harathi hinterlands)

issue two is that if your on somthing that does not have a decent speed boost like a Guardian alot of times Dyn. events are done before you can reach them.

So what, you want people to be stuck on servers that have 6 people to do the tarir city metaevent or similar?

Hello death of anything but high pop servers (which then again wouldnt be so bad, the entire GW2 population can probably fit on 3-4 servers).

John Smith.4610:

I’ve recently seen quite a few posts mentioning megaservers. As per standard business, I can’t say anything about release dates or future content, but I can say that we recognized that megaservers were a problem quite some time ago. At that time my squad joined up with the deific ~Susan and her team to begin work on the system. I wanted to tell you that we know there are problems and we’re fixing them. We’ve released some very minor changes already and there will be several phases of fixes applied over the next few months.

Really great to hear that but why oh why. when you were aware of the issue ‘quite some time ago’ and there have been dozens of threads on the issue, do you wait months to inform the player base that you are aware of the issue and attempting a fix?

Do you not realize the damage that the lack of communication has done in the intervening period?

There is only damage because players assume something, not because Anet doesn’t act.

Obtena.7952:

There is only damage because players assume something, not because Anet doesn’t act.

Not communicating an awareness of the issue early on, is the problem.

This leads to frustration, anger and gives the (ever growing) impression that the dev’s either don’t care or are incompetent.

Daroon.1736:

Obtena.7952:

There is only damage because players assume something, not because Anet doesn’t act.

Not communicating an awareness of the issue early on, is the problem.

This leads to frustration, anger and gives the (ever growing) impression that the dev’s either don’t care or are incompetent.

when they communicate it early on, people complain anyways 6 months later.

Is this the famous Susan that told us the WvW Maps were going to reset and became famous overnight ?

I really like the idea of auctioning off space in maps – pay more to get put in a fuller map. You pay a exponential fee based on how much space is left in the map.
This would be a good gold sink – and encourage players to get into maps sooner rather than just before the event starts.
^ please make the above so.