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Posted by: Sion.1057

Sion.1057

In WoW we had rogues stealth, paladins bubble-hearth.

In Warhammer the Bright Wizards “Combustion”.

In SWTOR we had Assassin’s/Consular’s Dark Charge/Combat Technique (until fix*)

What do we have in GW2?

*Wasn’t actually fixed they just turned the healing down a bit. Immortal builds were still possible.

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Posted by: Ryuujin.8236

Ryuujin.8236

There’s a lot of crazy powerful skills but used on their own any given skill isn’t usually a game breaker, provided you are paying attention.

Hundreds blades can dish out up to 22k damage in PvP, but you’d have to a prat or deeply unlucky to not get out of the way.

Moa Morph is essentially a 10 second daze with a twist. But you can still run, dodge and hide during this time.

People’ll likely name stuff like backstab but backstab on it’s own is simply a skill, things like backstab or shatter combos are just that; combos. Not singular OP skills.

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Posted by: Kimbald.2697

Kimbald.2697

Moa Morph is essentially a 10 second daze with a twist. But you can still run, dodge and hide during this time.

Except for the small fact that you can NOT do what you are supposed to be doing…
You can not fight, you can not capture or defend a point, you can not even defend yourself, you can not do anything except run.

And let’s face it: if a Mesmer wants to kill you, he will. No ammount of running without swiftness will help you get away. You can’t even jump walls to take shortcuts or go LoS.

But very often the mesmer will just ignore you and focus on other things.
You can’t get out of it anyhow.

It’s not a 10 sec daze, it’s a 10 second stun but wthout a stun breaker for it.
In return you can run… if they let you.

For me an overpowered skill is defined by its counters. And MOA has none, except the same as everything else: you can dodge IF you see it coming.
Good luck seeing it coming in a messy big fight.
It’s also not relevant that many mesmers don’t use MOA. It’s about the skill in itself, and that has no counter.
MOA has no counters of its own. Dodge working on everything makes dodge a void answer.

Wiggely, wobbely and other wombaty wabbity creatures…

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Posted by: Reclusiarh.2674

Reclusiarh.2674

I’m a warrior main and moa morph is definitely hands down the most op skill as far as I know. the first time I was morphed in WvWvW, and I was running around thinking; wtf, what, where? help! I’m a chicken now!

Hundred blades only works on zombies, nothing to see here, move along.

Guild wars should be war between orders, because orders are guilds too.

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Posted by: Kimbald.2697

Kimbald.2697

I’m a warrior main and moa morph is definitely hands down the most op skill as far as I know. the first time I was morphed I was running around thinking; wtf, what, where? help! I’m a chicken now!

Hundred blades only works on zombies, nothing to see here, move along.

Hundred blades is strong, and can be argued about I guess.
But it has more counters beyond just ‘dodge’.

That’s my criterium: what are the possible counters and who has acces to them?

MOA has none…

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Posted by: shin po.2756

shin po.2756

I don’t know what the most OP profession skill is in GW2, but I thought this video was pretty cool talking about how MMO’s have to OP certain skills to bring an imbalance to the game.

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Posted by: Kimbald.2697

Kimbald.2697

I don’t know what the most OP profession skill is in GW2, but I thought this video was pretty cool talking about how MMO’s have to OP certain skills to bring an imbalance to the game.

very good watch

But don’t throw theory that at any given ability though.
In my example of MOA: having no counter at all would simply put it out of that acceptable curve for ‘perfect imbalance’.
I think such a system would have to work more subtle than that.

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Posted by: Ghertu.7096

Ghertu.7096

It’s easy to find: just look which skill turns meme. Obviously. “Heartseeker”.

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Posted by: Rpgtabbycat.5869

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Some might say the mesmer portal bomb.

Others might say those darn thieves and their spinning daggers of doom.

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Posted by: Xolo.3580

Xolo.3580

If we’re talking about effectiveness I’d say Mesmer giving 50 people quickness for 10 seconds. I feel like a god when I pop Time Warp in a big zerg and everyone’s DPS almost doubles.

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Posted by: fivekiller.1432

fivekiller.1432

in WvW it is the one skill that allows a single person to hold an entire zerg hostage. my personal record is a group of about 15 for about 15 minutes at a supply camp.

on the receiving end of it i’ve seen one person hold up my team of 20 in the garrison for over 5 minutes costing us the capture while reinforcements zoned in.

no other profession has a skill that can do anything close to that on that level.

that skill obviously being Cloak and Dagger.

not here to argue about how it can be countered or anything like that. just talking about what is actually happening in the actual game.

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Posted by: Rpgtabbycat.5869

Rpgtabbycat.5869

Does it affect everyone? I was told that Time warp only affects 5 people.

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Posted by: Badaboom.4216

Badaboom.4216

Death Shroud, once you master it…

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Posted by: mulch.2586

mulch.2586

1v1 Moa is an I-win button.

In group combat, the portal bomb is the meta of wvw.

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Posted by: Columba.9730

Columba.9730

perma stealth for theives.

only thieves know how to play, they chant “L2P” every time their god mode is challenged.

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Posted by: Kimbald.2697

Kimbald.2697

perma stealth for theives.

that’s more of a bug than a skill of course.
Not saying it’s ok, but it’s not intended.

Where as portal, MOA and the other mentioned abilities are perfectly intended to be what they are.

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Posted by: Ethics.4519

Ethics.4519

Rangers shortbow auto-attack, before the nerf. I mean before the bug fix.

I think dstorm is pretty OP, but that’s when it’s used in conjuction with other people’s skills/elites, so I guess stand alone it isn’t exactly most OP skill ever.

RIP in peace Robert

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Posted by: Edge.4180

Edge.4180

I think the Elementalist downed skill “vapor form” makes it very difficult to die in a group setting. It’s a skill I certainly wish I had every time I’m downed at the foot of a monster who is all too happy to continue attacking me while ignoring everyone else that is still standing. :P

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Posted by: Ryuujin.8236

Ryuujin.8236

If we’re talking about effectiveness I’d say Mesmer giving 50 people quickness for 10 seconds. I feel like a god when I pop Time Warp in a big zerg and everyone’s DPS almost doubles.

Time warp, like most AoE’s only affect up to 5 people at a time

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