Guild Wars 2

Here’s a +1 from me, as long as we’re not talking of this kind of sexy
http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/65/62/335786fa7523dd23e537d3ba352ea71b-tera-armor-is-ridiculous.jpg

Glasses also show hair. And I like these items.

EDIT: How can that be armor? There’s nothing there to actually protect the character…was gonna say wearing it, but she’s not wearing anything. there are piercings that cover more!

I mostly agree with you, except for the part about TERA. I find their costumes utterly awful as they can be incredibly sexist. Sexy bunnygirl sets for the females (except the big muscular ones, of course!) and dorky bright yellow jumpsuits for the males (and the big females, to add insult to injury)? Sexist rubbish like that would send me packing from GW2 in a heartbeat.

But so long as they don’t take that page out of TERA’s book, I’d love to see more awesome looking armor skins in the gem store. I would kill for (or rather, pay gems for) some elegant and/or tastefully sexy medium armor!

In Guild Wars 1 the Asura armor person had spectacles and tinted spectacles you could purchase that had an armour rating and you could use in combat. Along with the lightbulb gloves. I think it would be a nice addition to blind your enemy with lightbulb gloves. Or for guardians that need to wear a pair of glasses to to read from their books..

Town clothes are useless. Why abandon something that worked perfectly in GW1, combat in your costumes that you spent good money on.

It really is true though, anything and everything that was in GW1 = not allowed in GW2 even if it is better. I just don’t get the logic in not allowing us to combat in our costumes.. oh cool I can stand around in a city looking good while the entire world is persistent, tell me HOW does that make sense!?

The reason we stood around in GW1 was because everything was INSTANCED and they were our trading hubs.

Plus with the massive culling, I couldn’t see peoples costumes even if I wanted to, hah!

The new items in the store are

U-G-L-Y

Just saying.

Nurse.1085:

The new items in the store are

U-G-L-Y

Just saying.

And that’s exactly what I’m talking about.

It’s a crap item with 3 crap retextures.

They could, and should, do much better.

And if it’s true that gw1 didn’t have this town versus combat equipment issue, then gw2 is clearly a case of two steps forward one step back.

I don’t see any point to buying town clothes, you can’t wear them out of town, so it seems a waste. Besides that town clothes are boring looking. I have yet to see any town clothes that has made me think wow that is gorgeous I have to have that.
And why riding clothes we don’t have mounts?

Agree. I would buy lots of armor skins in the cash shop, and it kinda boggles my mind that they continue to favor the town clothes category.
I almost wonder if they’re trying to avoid selling cosmetics that are wearable in combat because in a game where endgame content is grinding for cosmetics, it may not be the best idea to make the best looking gear in the game a cash shop item.

Anet, this is a medieval fantasy setting.
You make capes and the like? Great. Many of us even requested them.
What are plush backpacks, gangsta hoodies and riding suits in a game with no horses?

You’re turning a masterpiece into a commercial joke.
Please, stop it.

Wolfheart.1938:

Here’s a +1 from me, as long as we’re not talking of this kind of sexy
http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/65/62/335786fa7523dd23e537d3ba352ea71b-tera-armor-is-ridiculous.jpg

D: i wouldnt mind seeing that “type” of armor in game _

I don’t really like town clothes. It’s feels like a waste of money because you can’t use it most of the time. I did buy that witch outfit and it was very cute, but I really wish it was an armor skin too.

I’d like to see more old GW1 armor skins. They did a couple, I’d love more.

Red Falcon.8257:

Anet, this is a medieval fantasy setting.
You make capes and the like? Great. Many of us even requested them.
What are plush backpacks, gangsta hoodies and riding suits in a game with no horses?

You’re turning a masterpiece into a commercial joke.
Please, stop it.

Errr….but I like the plushie backpacks! My charr runs around with her charr plushie backpack, it’s pretty amusing. And you can actually use them, unlike the majority of the style items. I don’t mind occasional items like that. I do want to see more real armor skins though.

xarallei.4279:

Errr….but I like the plushie backpacks! My charr runs around with her charr plushie backpack, it’s pretty amusing. And you can actually use them, unlike the majority of the style items. I don’t mind occasional items like that. I do want to see more real armor skins though.

Ok but when I bought the game I bought an epic world in war and fantasy, not Hello Kitty online.
I’m tired of “joke” content, I want things that fit the lore and make me feel epic.

You can’t sell me an epic setting and turn it into a japanese shopping center.
If I want to laugh I go on 9gag, GW2 is a fantasy role playing game.

I want more armor skins, not town clothes.

Red Falcon.8257:

Anet, this is a medieval fantasy setting.

When was this ever supposed to be a medieval fantasy anything? I bought this game and saw robots, lasers, helicopters, airships, sniper rifles, engineers with gun turrets, etc. I guess because there are swords that must mean “medieval”?

panzer.6034:

Red Falcon.8257:

Anet, this is a medieval fantasy setting.

When was this ever supposed to be a medieval fantasy anything? I bought this game and saw robots, lasers, helicopters, airships, sniper rifles, engineers with gun turrets, etc. I guess because there are swords that must mean “medieval”?

It’s actually sort of…a non-setting in the traditional way. It mixes a lot of different themes but if we had to place a setting I would probably say it’s entering the industrial era, definitely not completely medieval.

Here you go Anet.

Some ideas to get you started.

It’s one of the few things they do right.

panzer.6034:

When was this ever supposed to be a medieval fantasy anything? I bought this game and saw robots, lasers, helicopters, airships, sniper rifles, engineers with gun turrets, etc. I guess because there are swords that must mean “medieval”?

That’s actually what medieval fantasy is. Medieval setting plus magic/technology.
Commercial gimmicks don’t belong to medieval nor fantasy though.

That wasn’t the focus of my point though.

Shanna.4762:

I want more armor skins, not town clothes.

This, a thousand times this. Why is this so hard to understand.

Red Falcon.8257:

panzer.6034:

When was this ever supposed to be a medieval fantasy anything? I bought this game and saw robots, lasers, helicopters, airships, sniper rifles, engineers with gun turrets, etc. I guess because there are swords that must mean “medieval”?

That’s actually what medieval fantasy is. Medieval setting plus magic/technology.
Commercial gimmicks don’t belong to medieval nor fantasy though.

That wasn’t the focus of my point though.

No, it really isn’t. Medieval fantasy is lord of the rings.

This is more a steampunkish sort of world. There is nothing medieval about teleporters, helicopters, submarines, tanks, guns, etc.

Medieval, by definition, comes before the industrial age.

Rhysati.4932:

No, it really isn’t. Medieval fantasy is lord of the rings.

This is more a steampunkish sort of world. There is nothing medieval about teleporters, helicopters, submarines, tanks, guns, etc.

Medieval, by definition, comes before the industrial age.

There are a ton of medieval fantasy books that involve all kinds of high level technology sitting into a medieval setting like GW2.
Medieval fantasy came centuries before LOTR, read some books.

Wolfheart.1938:

Here’s a +1 from me, as long as we’re not talking of this kind of sexy
http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/65/62/335786fa7523dd23e537d3ba352ea71b-tera-armor-is-ridiculous.jpg

Ick i hope not. One of the reason I got guild wars 2 was to get less of this kind of bullkitten.

Why is this degenerating into a discussion about fantasy genres (Rhysati you are wrong) when the bigger question is yet to be asked/answered…

Outfits are nice but when will I be able to buy some consumables that affect in game stats and effects?

Red Falcon.8257:

Rhysati.4932:

No, it really isn’t. Medieval fantasy is lord of the rings.

This is more a steampunkish sort of world. There is nothing medieval about teleporters, helicopters, submarines, tanks, guns, etc.

Medieval, by definition, comes before the industrial age.

There are a ton of medieval fantasy books that involve all kinds of high level technology sitting into a medieval setting like GW2.
Medieval fantasy came centuries before LOTR, read some books.

I never said it didn’t. That is something called an example.

Once again, Medieval is, by definition, a period of time before industrial age. You can claim against that all you wish, but it doesn’t make it any more true.

If I could use these as armor skins, I’d be more interested in buying “town” clothes; until then, not a cent.

People that want to veto certain types of content are like people ordering salads at a steakhouse and complaining that you’re ordering steak.

You have your salad. I’ll have my steak.

Granted I think we can all agree the hoodies are just a poor offering. I’m fine with almost everyone in this thread getting what they’re asking for, as long as it’s not asking for other people to not get what they’re asking for.

More. Just, more. More variety. More everything. I want swimsuits, I want uniforms. I want sexy outfits and full battle armor. (Well, I don’t -want- full battle armor. I want more Xena armor, but I’m happy to ask for both so that everyone has something)

The game already sells every type of boost imaginable, lets you exchange gems for gold, and has outfits and gear skins for sale… it can’t be a binary situation where either everything desirable is from playing the game only, or everything you want is only in the cash shop, we really need both, an overwhelming volume of variety that there’s something for everyone from every source.

I’m just singling out the cash shop because there’s a staggering lack of meaningful content in both gear skins and town clothes present.

I am pretty reluctant to buy town clothes. They can’t be used in combat and they take up valuable storage space.

Guild Wars 2’s armour selection is incredibly limited in terms of style. There’s a lot of variation within certain styles, but it can be very frustraiting if you don’t want your female caster to look like a carnival girl or a conservative priestess. There’s nothing that looks elegant. For the male casters, there’s nothing that looks sexy. For the medium armour wearers… Trenchcoats. If you don’t like trenchcoats you better like underboob.

Arenanet could make a lot of money by adding in a number of GW1’s costumes and armour skins. I’m really not sure why they don’t.

Trendy Ideology.1034:

People that want to veto certain types of content are like people ordering salads at a steakhouse and complaining that you’re ordering steak.

You have your salad. I’ll have my steak.

Nope. It’s the opposite way around. GW2 is, on the surface, a relatively serious game, and one which isn’t a totally tacky sexist, hyper-sexualized and actually borderline perverted game like TERA (talking about some of the stuff they had to edit to even release in the West). So people demanding that kind of thing are the “salad-eaters”.

A better analogy might be people who are demanding that they be allowed to dress in bondage fetish gear at a Civil War Re-enactment.

Stylish stuff, yes, cool stuff, yes, the odd anachronism that’s fun? Yes. Ridiculous sexist or perv-bait outfits? No. Too much TERA stuff, which you brand “cool” is the latter, not “cool” to most people, cool solely to hardcore fans of certain looks.

There’s also the concern that GW2 will start keeping all the cool stuff for sale, and not from content. That would be sad.

As for people complaining about limited looks, given that the game has only been out 9 months, I think that’s pretty unreasonable. If they haven’t added a bunch by two years in, sure, then it’s time to complain. I was surprised FotM didn’t really add any.

If GW2 gets any more cleavage-armor than it already has, I quit.

Tera is kitten. The worst. absolutelydisgusting.png

There should be nothing exposed on the main body or upper arms/legs on anything called ‘armor’. It’s there to protect. Non-combat vanity items? Knock yourself out. kitten bouncing around in combat? No.

Aaand the rest of this post is now missing. Awh.

Beorn Saxon.4762:

Please let us wear these items and future ones in combat. I will never buy town clothes only.

That makes two of us. If I cannot wear it both in and out of town, in and out of combat, I will not be buying it.

thisolderhead.5127:

Why is this degenerating into a discussion about fantasy genres (Rhysati you are wrong) when the bigger question is yet to be asked/answered…

Outfits are nice but when will I be able to buy some consumables that affect in game stats and effects?

I certainly hope not (besides what’s already there – the boosters. Anything more, and i will scream bloody murder)

Trendy Ideology.1034:

People that want to veto certain types of content are like people ordering salads at a steakhouse and complaining that you’re ordering steak.

Thanks for the flawed comparison, but guess what, it is flawed. I’m fine with sexy armor or more sexy armor choices for people who like them, but when I want to see naked ladies MMOs are not my go-to.

Rukia.4802:

Town clothes are useless. Why abandon something that worked perfectly in GW1, combat in your costumes that you spent good money on.

It really is true though, anything and everything that was in GW1 = not allowed in GW2 even if it is better. I just don’t get the logic in not allowing us to combat in our costumes.. oh cool I can stand around in a city looking good while the entire world is persistent, tell me HOW does that make sense!?

The reason we stood around in GW1 was because everything was INSTANCED and they were our trading hubs.

Plus with the massive culling, I couldn’t see peoples costumes even if I wanted to, hah!

because in GW1 you weren’t interacting with about 40 other people in combat. only your group in your own persanle instance.

I for one have no problem seeing that kinda stuff in the towns and such as i consider them safe zone’s ment for fun and such but I really don’t want to see all that stuff when fighting a Dragon .

I loved the quaggan backpack and the charr one. Maybe the dichotomy of having a huge Norn warrior with a cutesy backpack is giggle worthy for me.
Town clothing should be worn even if you take damage, that would make them worthwhile.

Though I’m probably not going to buy the hoodies, but I’ll see how they look on my Sylvari first.

Beorn Saxon.4762:

Please let us wear these items and future ones in combat. I will never buy town clothes only.

I don’t think that will be a good idea I already see enough of big pink norn everywhere imagine now if they all started wearing bunny hats, boxing gloves and other kitten. Tons of characters run around with pink hair now. This isn’t Aion that turned into a chibi clownfest and Tera, armor and fun clothes should be separated for the sake of the game’s unique art style so many games decide to sabotage with silliness.

what amuses me is how people complain that sexy fantasy armour is not realistic…. but never complain that it isnt realistic that they can jump in the water in full plate and swim halfway across a zone…..

I’ll probably never pick up Town Clothes – if I wanted to buy something to support the developers, I’m more likely to stick my money on buying Gold than Town Clothes, because I don’t really spend enough time standing around. I liked the Quaggan Backpack because it was silly and could be used elsewhere, so it’d be great to see more armour/weapon skins, or perhaps some unique dyes.

weapon skins, armor skins, effects, different colour spells all this sort of stuff would be fantastic.

Black lion Master Key: no need to buy more black lion keys, i know the chests arnt worth much but having to buy keys is just anoying though i do understand why, infact give the black lion chests a chance of dropping armour/weapon SKINS no stats or anything jut the skin that would increase the key sales thus the revenue as they need revenue to keep going after all.

After reading this thread i looked up Tera armor sets. Regardless of what you feel about the skimpy sets, the armor designs in that game blow everything in GW2 out of the water (IMO). Anet would do well to get even half of the ornate, detailed craziness you see in pretty much every set i’ve seen in that game.

Akiko.2364:

what amuses me is how people complain that sexy fantasy armour is not realistic…. but never complain that it isnt realistic that they can jump in the water in full plate and swim halfway across a zone…..

Not being able to swim due to armor proficiency is getting to the level of realistic where miniscule issues take a ton of work to fix, not to mention the complaints about it.

Making armor look like armor is definitely not extra difficult, nor does it tip any balance. Having armor be armor for all characters is a balance, and one that shouldn’t be kittened with to appeal to perverts.

Totally agree. For all that LOTRO lacks as an engaging game, it still does cosmetics better than pretty much anyone else out there. You have your actual armour set, which you can show if you want, but you also have a couple of cosmetic gear pages that you can toggle between. If you want more cosmetic sets to toggle between, you can buy them in the cash shop.. and I would wager that they’re one of the biggest money makers. In the cosmetic gear pages you can equip anything from regular armour to purely cosmetic clothing to use it’s appearance while your eqipped armour provides the buffs but remains hidden.

I love the pirate outfit in GW2 enough to have purchaed it.. but I doubt I’ll buy any other town clothing item again.

StriderShinryu.6923:

Totally agree. For all that LOTRO lacks as an engaging game, it still does cosmetics better than pretty much anyone else out there. You have your actual armour set, which you can show if you want, but you also have a couple of cosmetic gear pages that you can toggle between. If you want more cosmetic sets to toggle between, you can buy them in the cash shop.. and I would wager that they’re one of the biggest money makers. In the cosmetic gear pages you can equip anything from regular armour to purely cosmetic clothing to use it’s appearance while your eqipped armour provides the buffs but remains hidden.

I love the pirate outfit in GW2 enough to have purchaed it.. but I doubt I’ll buy any other town clothing item again.

Thank you, I was just going to say the same thing. LoTRo’s method for costume equipping also meant that you could wear your pretty clothes but they always inherited the stats from your armor. And yes, for Turbine, it was a cash windfall. Trouble is, so far there is no Town Clothes in GW2 that I would even consider equipping in town, muchless as a skin to fight in. ANet really are missing the cash cow on this one.

Eurhetemec.9052:

Nope. It’s the opposite way around. GW2 is, on the surface, a relatively serious game,

Oh it is, is it? Then why is the guy posting directly below you threatening to quit over any more cleavage armor?

Eurhetemec.9052:

A better analogy might be people who are demanding that they be allowed to dress in bondage fetish gear at a Civil War Re-enactment.

I see you heard about the sale at the flawed analogy store where I purchased mine.

A civil war re-enactment is a place where everyone has agreed to some exceedingly specific rules, regulations, and customs, regarding a specific era and type of content being portrayed. GW2 already breaks the 4th wall, and in addition GW2 has made no promise, to anyone, anywhere, to be portraying a specific type of content and to always and forever stick to that content without expansion or deviation. Furthermore can I just say how offensive it is that you call my analogy flawed and then proceed to make such a flagrantly kitten one yourself?

Eurhetemec.9052:

Stylish stuff, yes, cool stuff, yes, the odd anachronism that’s fun? Yes. Ridiculous sexist or perv-bait outfits? No. Too much TERA stuff, which you brand “cool” is the latter, not “cool” to most people, cool solely to hardcore fans of certain looks.

Do you have a single source to cite for what percentages of the GW2 playerbase want ThingA versus ThingB? Any poll, any statistics on armor usage, any… anything? Or like most people asserting fact online are you just making stuff up to support your argument?

You are not the armor gestapo. And this is exactly what I was talking about with my steak/salad analogy. It’s not about who orders the salad, it’s about two or more people going somewhere for food, and one person ordering one thing, and the other person for one reason or another taking exception to what that person ordered. But I chose steak and salad because I was going to follow it up with a “just because baby can’t chew steak doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to order it” comment later on.

Eurhetemec.9052:

There’s also the concern that GW2 will start keeping all the cool stuff for sale, and not from content. That would be sad.

That’s a valid concern, but, that’s why I say we need tons of volume, from multiple sources, so that they can safely add cool stuff to the store without that being an issue.

Eurhetemec.9052:

As for people complaining about limited looks, given that the game has only been out 9 months, I think that’s pretty unreasonable. If they haven’t added a bunch by two years in, sure, then it’s time to complain. I was surprised FotM didn’t really add any.

You say 9 months, I say almost a year. But more importantly, I posted this because posting crap content instead of real content isn’t the direction they should be headed. I would rather wait 2 months at a time for something cool than get something once a month and have it be crap 9/10 times like these hoodies.

The pirate costume in beta was cute! The one in the gem store now; for me, not so much. And yes, it is sad that we can only use them out of combat.

Extreme example: In Rift we had weddings, and you could buy a wedding dress. I did. You could use said costume anywhere. I put it on my rouge and took her into PvP battleground. It looked ridiculous! Made me laugh. Ok, I didn’t try that again, but I did often have her display different styles.

I want my characters to wear different looks on different days, or even just different settings on the same day. Different colors are cool! But part of the fun is changing out looks too. I’m all for more choices in or out of the gem store. I am willing to pay for them!

Trendy Ideology.1034:

Oh it is, is it? Then why is the guy posting directly below you threatening to quit over any more cleavage armor?

I can’t speak for others, can I?

Trendy Ideology.1034:

I see you heard about the sale at the flawed analogy store where I purchased mine.

Yep

Trendy Ideology.1034:

Furthermore can I just say how offensive it is that you call my analogy flawed and then proceed to make such a flagrantly kitten one yourself?

Nope

Certainly not when you used one planning specially to insult people later by calling them babies.

Trendy Ideology.1034:

Do you have a single source to cite for what percentages of the GW2 playerbase want ThingA versus ThingB? Any poll, any statistics on armor usage, any… anything? Or like most people asserting fact online are you just making stuff up to support your argument?

Do you? I can make one if you like. I have my eyes. If most people wanted sexy outfits, there would be more of them wearing them.

Trendy Ideology.1034:

You are not the armor gestapo. And this is exactly what I was talking about with my steak/salad analogy. It’s not about who orders the salad, it’s about two or more people going somewhere for food, and one person ordering one thing, and the other person for one reason or another taking exception to what that person ordered. But I chose steak and salad because I was going to follow it up with a “just because baby can’t chew steak doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to order it” comment later on.

Food is a wrong (not poor, wrong) comparison. Clothes are the right comparison.

Trendy Ideology.1034:

That’s a valid concern, but, that’s why I say we need tons of volume, from multiple sources, so that they can safely add cool stuff to the store without that being an issue.

Art budget is an issue. More volume = less sales per item = less profit per item.

Trendy Ideology.1034:

You say 9 months, I say almost a year. But more importantly, I posted this because posting crap content instead of real content isn’t the direction they should be headed. I would rather wait 2 months at a time for something cool than get something once a month and have it be crap 9/10 times like these hoodies.

9 months is correct (Aug 28 2012), “almost a year” is wrong. So that’s silly. As for direction you praised a game so pervy it had to edit for the West so it didn’t get called a pedo game. So I am concerned as to what you think is a good direction.

stpetemermaid.5947:

Extreme example: In Rift we had weddings, and you could buy a wedding dress. I did. You could use said costume anywhere. I put it on my rouge and took her into PvP battleground. It looked ridiculous! Made me laugh. Ok, I didn’t try that again, but I did often have her display different styles.

Sad thing is there is a wedding costume set for GW1 .. hell you can even wear it into combat.