Guild Wars 2

Is it true Nexon bought a part of NCsoft? If this is true I can see why the community is complaining about this game becoming P2W. Well, I think I just lost motivation to continue playing. I will have nothing to do with Nexon.

It’s not p2w and anybody who claims that it is is a looney.
You can buy convenience and skins in the shop, nothing more, nothing less.

Nexon investment in NC Soft happened before Guild Wars 2 launched and as Crovax said, anyone claiming this game is pay to win is a loony. You can now remove the tin-foil hat and go about your daily achievements.

Everything in the gem store you can buy with RWM or gold to gems. If GW2 were P2W there would be items you could only buy with RWM that gave you an advantage over those that didn’t spend RWM.

Yeah I don’t see any skills being sold in the Gem shop which is usually what P2W will be classified as. It’s usually gear, a class, skills things of that nature. I’ve browsed a few of the other threads and people say buying cosmetics is P2W? It’s a skin. As for ascended stuff, I just stick with exotics since I don’t have that much time to play. I just simply don’t try for them. 35g can be made daily doing dungeons. It’s like the stuff is there people are just lazy.

Nexon owns roughly 15% of NCSOFT. They bought it from the CEO’s personal share in June of 2012 which IIRC left him with roughly 10% of NCSOFT.

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Is it true Nexon bought a part of NCsoft? If this is true I can see why the community is complaining about this game becoming P2W. Well, I think I just lost motivation to continue playing. I will have nothing to do with Nexon.

It’s not P2W, it’s pay to look good. Looking good just happens to be the endgame.

To be fair, WvW is P2W. You can use gold to buy people and golems.

Wetpaw.3487:

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Is it true Nexon bought a part of NCsoft? If this is true I can see why the community is complaining about this game becoming P2W. Well, I think I just lost motivation to continue playing. I will have nothing to do with Nexon.

It’s not P2W, it’s pay to look good. Looking good just happens to be the endgame.

Good thing you can buy gems with gold

Ambush.9420:

Wetpaw.3487:

They change.3526:

Is it true Nexon bought a part of NCsoft? If this is true I can see why the community is complaining about this game becoming P2W. Well, I think I just lost motivation to continue playing. I will have nothing to do with Nexon.

It’s not P2W, it’s pay to look good. Looking good just happens to be the endgame.

Good thing you can buy gems with gold

Good thing you can’t casually make gold fast enough to keep up with gem inflation.

bravoart.5308:

Ambush.9420:

Wetpaw.3487:

They change.3526:

Is it true Nexon bought a part of NCsoft? If this is true I can see why the community is complaining about this game becoming P2W. Well, I think I just lost motivation to continue playing. I will have nothing to do with Nexon.

It’s not P2W, it’s pay to look good. Looking good just happens to be the endgame.

Good thing you can buy gems with gold

Good thing you can’t casually make gold fast enough to keep up with gem inflation.

Good thing that’s not true. Doing FGS or QD champ train 30 mins-1hr a day will net you maybe 2-3 gold easily in mats and drops. On week later, you have enough to buy stuff in the gem store.

Good thing hyperbole doesn’t run rampant in threads like these.

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Is it true Nexon bought a part of NCsoft? If this is true I can see why the community is complaining about this game becoming P2W. Well, I think I just lost motivation to continue playing. I will have nothing to do with Nexon.

Good thing no-one is jumping to conclusions.

Can I have your gold?

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They change.3526:

Is it true Nexon bought a part of NCsoft? If this is true I can see why the community is complaining about this game becoming P2W. Well, I think I just lost motivation to continue playing. I will have nothing to do with Nexon.

Good thing no-one is jumping to conclusions.

Can I have your gold?

good thing we can use gold to buy bis legendary gear when we’re tired of grinding for them

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Is it true Nexon bought a part of NCsoft? If this is true I can see why the community is complaining about this game becoming P2W. Well, I think I just lost motivation to continue playing. I will have nothing to do with Nexon.

It is true and an ex-nexon employee is now part of the monetization-team at A.Net

But she was hired before Nexon bought their share in NCSOFT.

Since money in P2W would be spent chasing stats (to end up where you started) in any game that had vertical progression, I’d call it pay2lose.

its not p2w yet…….

For some context, the first major world loot nerf happened mid-November of 2012. If you root around the forums, reddit, scenes sites, from November/December there was A LOT of discussion/complaining about it. This affected all open world content, champions, world bosses and dungeons and closely correspond to the arrival of fractals, which seemed to be the only way to get good gear at the time. Trying to railroad people in to their new content perhaps. Before this happened, say October 2012 and before, one could easily expect exotics from dungeons and dragons most, if not all the time. There was a lot of speculation that Nexon was not seeing the profits it was expecting and exercised it’s weight to force loot in to the ground in order to “encourage” people to use the gem store.

For anyone who has not been around that long, if you’re complaining about the loot, keep in mind, it’s now vastly better than it was last winter.

3 commonly missed facts in these discussions:
1) Nexon bought shares in NCSoft before GW2 came out

2) Anet was bought by NCSoft before GW1 even came out

3) Owning shares in a company, even a controlling interest (and 15% is not a controlling interest), does not give you control over everything they do. Certainly not to the level of deciding what items are going to be sold in each game’s store.

Even in my organisation, where there’s about 35 people in total the board only makes high level decisions like what the budget will be for each department or project. It’s people much lower down the ladder, who decide what’s done with it and how.

Wetpaw.3487:

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Is it true Nexon bought a part of NCsoft? If this is true I can see why the community is complaining about this game becoming P2W. Well, I think I just lost motivation to continue playing. I will have nothing to do with Nexon.

It’s not P2W, it’s pay to look good. Looking good just happens to be the endgame.

But ‘good’ is also a matter of opinion. Most of my favourite skins come from dungeons (both armor and weapons) so if I didn’t recognise that that’s just my opinion I could argue that this game is the exact opposite of pay to win because the ‘best’ skins can’t be bought.

kokiman.2364:

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Is it true Nexon bought a part of NCsoft? If this is true I can see why the community is complaining about this game becoming P2W. Well, I think I just lost motivation to continue playing. I will have nothing to do with Nexon.

It is true and an ex-nexon employee is now part of the monetization-team at A.Net

Yep. But then Anet staff have come from all kinds of places, if I remember right Regina used to work for MTV, some staff were at Blizzard, I think Colin Johanson used to work for EA.

It doesn’t mean any of them necessarily agree with their former employers approach to doing things, and certainly doesn’t mean they were personally responsible for it.