Guild Wars 2

TheDaiBish.9735:

Serbianwolf.1652:

And don’t tell me you will release only 1 map and 1 profession in expansion? hh gg

Who said anything about there being only one map?

Well, only one map for WvW and only one map for PvP (Stronghold), I guess.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

TheDaiBish.9735:

Serbianwolf.1652:

And don’t tell me you will release only 1 map and 1 profession in expansion? hh gg

Who said anything about there being only one map?

Well, only one map for WvW and only one map for PvP (Stronghold), I guess.

Eh, touche.

That would be 2 maps, right there. Not to mention however many PvE maps there are, and there are multiple, because the Devs refer to them in the plural, and not the singular. ; )

TheDaiBish.9735:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

TheDaiBish.9735:

Serbianwolf.1652:

And don’t tell me you will release only 1 map and 1 profession in expansion? hh gg

Who said anything about there being only one map?

Well, only one map for WvW and only one map for PvP (Stronghold), I guess.

Eh, touche.

Still, that’s two maps and we haven’t touched PvE yet. I don’t get the complaint either.

The PvP and WvW maps will be for everyone, not only expansion owners. So it would be unfair to consider them expansion content.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

TheDaiBish.9735:

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

TheDaiBish.9735:

Serbianwolf.1652:

And don’t tell me you will release only 1 map and 1 profession in expansion? hh gg

Who said anything about there being only one map?

Well, only one map for WvW and only one map for PvP (Stronghold), I guess.

Eh, touche.

Still, that’s two maps and we haven’t touched PvE yet. I don’t get the complaint either.

I suppose it’s all a matter of perspective.

TheDaiBish.9735:

Serbianwolf.1652:

And don’t tell me you will release only 1 map and 1 profession in expansion? hh gg

Who said anything about there being only one map?

Well, uhm…Anet actually.

Maguuma.

Might have different levels/biomes whatever they are calling it, but they never said they were opening up more than the Maguuma area.

PookieDaWombat.6209:

TheDaiBish.9735:

Serbianwolf.1652:

And don’t tell me you will release only 1 map and 1 profession in expansion? hh gg

Who said anything about there being only one map?

Well, uhm…Anet actually.

Maguuma.

Might have different levels/biomes whatever they are calling it, but they never said they were opening up more than the Maguuma area.

The Heart of Maguuma region is what they said they would be opening up. You know, like the Ascalon region, Shiverpeaks region, and Kryta region?

Besides the fact they have clarified multiple times that there will be multiple maps in said region…

Soooooo…. When’s the patch?

PookieDaWombat.6209:

Well, uhm…Anet actually.

Maguuma.

Might have different levels/biomes whatever they are calling it, but they never said they were opening up more than the Maguuma area.

Region != Map.

And it is extremely unlikely that the whole Heart of Maguuma is a single map.
In fact they have said MAPS multiple times.

Mea.5491:

Soooooo…. When’s the patch?

When it is ready.

lordkrall.7241:

Mea.5491:

Soooooo…. When’s the patch?

When it is ready.

When is it ready/done/finished/fixed/completed?

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

When is it ready/done/finished/fixed/completed?

When they have solved the issue that was the reason for the delay.

lordkrall.7241:

PookieDaWombat.6209:

Well, uhm…Anet actually.

Maguuma.

Might have different levels/biomes whatever they are calling it, but they never said they were opening up more than the Maguuma area.

Region != Map.

And it is extremely unlikely that the whole Heart of Maguuma is a single map.
In fact they have said MAPS multiple times.

But when asked how many maps, they always side step the question and say things like “Its not about size, its about density” or “This expansion is more about features than content.”

I’m expecting three. Just because two would be stupid (it would only be slighter less bad press than “Latest expansion comes with one new zone?!”) and four could actually be enough to come out and say “There are four new areas!” and try to be proud of it.

Also considering that dry top and silverwastes together are still smaller than even the starting zones, it could be 3 maps giving us less total area than frostgorge.

lordkrall.7241:

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

When is it ready/done/finished/fixed/completed?

When they have solved the issue that was the reason for the delay.

Ok. No problem.

.

Are we there yet?

Monkey Fritz.9052:

lordkrall.7241:

PookieDaWombat.6209:

Well, uhm…Anet actually.

Maguuma.

Might have different levels/biomes whatever they are calling it, but they never said they were opening up more than the Maguuma area.

Region != Map.

And it is extremely unlikely that the whole Heart of Maguuma is a single map.
In fact they have said MAPS multiple times.

But when asked how many maps, they always side step the question and say things like “Its not about size, its about density” or “This expansion is more about features than content.”

I’m expecting three. Just because two would be stupid (it would only be slighter less bad press than “Latest expansion comes with one new zone?!”) and four could actually be enough to come out and say “There are four new areas!” and try to be proud of it.

Also considering that dry top and silverwastes together are still smaller than even the starting zones, it could be 3 maps giving us less total area than frostgorge.

If you only look at X and Y axis, probably. Include the Z? I think they’re going to be huge.

Even so, I would rather 4 Dry Tops than 10 Brisban Wildlands. Just much more engaging maps that are more fun to play in.

sorudo.9054:

i kinda see how Anet feels when time kitten comes along to whine how late something is…..

I don’t know why but that made me LOL so bad

Soooo….still no update or communication? Does the patch need a day or two of QA? Or a week or two? How is the QA going so far? Is everything panning out or is it a jumbled mess? A little information would be nice to hear.

They’d share information but its… Patchy.

Geddit?

Our prime info source right now is Gaile and today she’s traveling in England from one place to another so I imagine her posts will be more sporadic. Hopefully her cheery presence will resume on the morrow.

Donari.5237:

Our prime info source right now is Gaile and today she’s traveling in England from one place to another so I imagine her posts will be more sporadic. Hopefully her cheery presence will resume on the morrow.

The morrow?

After decades of reeanactment, LARP, tabletop and online RP, not to mention reading voraciously since I was 2 … yeah, I use antiquated phrasings now and then

For those not versed in old colloquialisms, I meant “will resume tomorrow.”

BellewTheBear.2081:

Soooo….still no update or communication? Does the patch need a day or two of QA? Or a week or two? How is the QA going so far? Is everything panning out or is it a jumbled mess? A little information would be nice to hear.

What can they say if there is nothing new to report?

“Hello guys, I just dropping in to say that there is nothing to say. Bye!”

lordkrall.7241:

BellewTheBear.2081:

Soooo….still no update or communication? Does the patch need a day or two of QA? Or a week or two? How is the QA going so far? Is everything panning out or is it a jumbled mess? A little information would be nice to hear.

What can they say if there is nothing new to report?

“Hello guys, I just dropping in to say that there is nothing to say. Bye!”

A status report about their progress would be nice.

An example:
We are still not ready to release the new build but we are making good progress. We hope to release the new build within a week.

With that simple response you reassure people that the QA test is going well and give them a rough timeframe without actually promising/confirming anything.

And yet people would take that as a promise and if it wasn’t released within a week a major kittenstorm would happen.

lordkrall.7241:

And yet people would take that as a promise and if it wasn’t released within a week a major kittenstorm would happen.

Then that’s their own fault for misinterpreting Anet’s words.

And yet it happens every single time. Which is why they no longer give us information like that.

No one gains anything from yet another groundless kittenstorm.

lordkrall.7241:

And yet it happens every single time. Which is why they no longer give us information like that.

No one gains anything from yet another groundless kittenstorm.

No one gains anything from zero communication either. Although a “kittenstorm” may ensue from people misunderstanding an update, the rest of us who can control ourselves and be mature adults about the situation would benefit greatly from some sort of an update of the progress of the patch. Like I stated in an earlier post, if Anet is allowing people who curse them out and whine on their forums keep them from communicating with the rest of their player base then that is really sad and pathetic.

Let me be clear that I think the whiners have nothing to do with the lack of communication. I’m sure everyone is busy as hell right now. However, it took me a total of five minutes to write this response right now. I refuse to believe that everyone at Anet is so busy they can’t take five minutes (or less) to keep their players in the loop on what’s happening.

Torsailr.8456:

Now if The Rumour Game was anywhere near as good at The Imitation Game I’d be starting that over and over again.

And the Crying Game?? O.o

Windu The Forbidden One.6045:

A status report about their progress would be nice.

An example:
We are still not ready to release the new build but we are making good progress. We hope to release the new build within a week.

With that simple response you reassure people that the QA test is going well and give them a rough timeframe without actually promising/confirming anything.

Gaile actually did that when we had a delay on something last Halloween, after I and others suggested such a format of reply. I’m sure once she is settled at a computer again, and has something further to report, she’ll give us a clue.

Are people asking for an update already?!

Its been one day people… ONE day! Not one week or one month… one DAY! They have much more important things to do right now than give us daily updates. One of those things is fixing the problem. I’d rather they didn’t waste their time on pointless updates.

Just give them a chance, they will update us as soon as they can.

Gulesave.5073:

There is a big difference between internal due dates and promise dates. The former has a tendency to be wrong, and the latter needs to always be right.

Exactly, yes.

But it’s naive for people to swallow “it’ll be done when it’s done” and think ArenaNet really has no time frame for when it will be done. They just aren’t sharing with us, which is perfectly understandable.

Rin.1046:

Are people asking for an update already?!

Its been one day people… ONE day! Not one week or one month… one DAY! They have much more important things to do right now than give us daily updates. One of those things is fixing the problem. I’d rather they didn’t waste their time on pointless updates.

Just give them a chance, they will update us as soon as they can.

Well, technically it has been 2 weeks and 2 days from last updade and its not like it that small , defiance changes, port skill chages, possible story changes and gem store items.
I know they are bussy whit all the stuff going on but still, they cant just concentrate on new flashy stuff and leave the bases of the game unpolish and a complete mess as they are, thats the content that new players are experiencing and will sway their view on the game besides not a good way to bring players back, also comparing this situation whit other companies handeling of similar situations, they give some reasuring of a timeline.
Also they have made basically a promise of biweekly updates and ofcorse its hard to keep, but when theres an expantion and the patches just get delayed that can ring some bells of alarm that the normal content might be getting droped into the back ground and forgoten.

Monkey Fritz.9052:

Also considering that dry top and silverwastes together are still smaller than even the starting zones, it could be 3 maps giving us less total area than frostgorge.

Yep. That’s exactly what I’m expecting. Overhype about a little bit of space.

Neural.1824:

Monkey Fritz.9052:

Also considering that dry top and silverwastes together are still smaller than even the starting zones, it could be 3 maps giving us less total area than frostgorge.

Yep. That’s exactly what I’m expecting. Overhype about a little bit of space.

Pretty much this.

I’m really hoping thats not the case, but yeah…hope hasn’t gotten me very far i the lat year.

taikia.4819:

Well, technically it has been 2 weeks and 2 days from last updade and its not like it that small , defiance changes, port skill chages, possible story changes and gem store items.
I know they are bussy whit all the stuff going on but still, they cant just concentrate on new flashy stuff and leave the bases of the game unpolish and a complete mess as they are, thats the content that new players are experiencing and will sway their view on the game besides not a good way to bring players back, also comparing this situation whit other companies handeling of similar situations, they give some reasuring of a timeline.
Also they have made basically a promise of biweekly updates and ofcorse its hard to keep, but when theres an expantion and the patches just get delayed that can ring some bells of alarm that the normal content might be getting droped into the back ground and forgoten.

It’s been one day since Gaile advised of the delay and people are already asking for an update. That is the height of impatience in my book.

Regarding them only concentrating on new stuff, the very fact they are trying to release a patch before HoT, which contains some significant changes, shows they are still interested in working on and improving the core game. I see no indication what so ever that Anet are leaving the core game behind. As to the game being a mess, that is your opinion. Personally I think the game has more polish and much better systems in place than many other contenders in the genre at the moment.

Regarding the NPE putting people off, again, that is a matter of opinion. I have seen both positive and negative views on it from new players. I think the people it negatively impacts the most are the veterans looking to level alts, more than it impacts new players. That aside, they have already stated that they are looking to change and/or improve upon this system, so they are clearly taking our feedback and reacting to it.

As to the promise of bi-weekly updates, I do not remember that. I remember them saying they want to try to release bi-weekly LS updates, which is far from a promise. There are no alarm bells ringing, no warning signs of the game’s downfall, no indications the game will fall apart. All I hear are the baseless caterwaulings of naysayers and prophets of doom.

Rin.1046:

I see no indication what so ever that Anet are leaving the core game behind.

They mentioned in the last PAX that they won’t overhaul old content because people tend to play the new content more. Ergo, they’re leaving the core game behind, and only updating the things that are systems implemented for the sake of the incoming content (such as the break bar and the camera changes).

The break bar is the best example of this. It may be an interesting tool in HoT because the bosses there have mechanics to work with that – like using it to prevent the Wyvern from flying and making it more vulnerable to damage. The core game bosses have no such thing – the break bar is just a way to interrupt abilities that aren’t worth interrupting since it’s far more effective to simply dodge them. With no mechanic attacked to the break bar, under the current bosses it’s useless. And that’s all we will get.

While we’re all waiting for a patch why not take a moment to sit back and relax, and think about SAB.

Xillllix.3485:

While we’re all waiting for a patch why not take a moment to sit back and relax, and think about SAB.

Waiting on SAB for, Link, and my Sonic Asura to get some retro fun.
I just wish they’d add it while we wait for HoT.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Hey there,

We know that some of you are anticipating a new build for Guild Wars 2 on March 10th. We wanted to give you a heads up that the game update is coming, but it will not be going out on March 10th. At the present time, contents of the build is undergoing additional QA Testing. If we get more information about an anticipated timeframe for the build’s release we’ll try to provide that info in advance. But of course as always, we will update in the forums with detailed update notes when the build goes live.

Thanks for your patience.

Thanks for the heads up. I am really excited to see how the First Person view looks. I am really hoping that you can still see your weapon in front of you or something. Kind of like in Skyrim and many other FP games.

I am sorry, MurdocSmash, but the preview of the camera changes showed that you cannot see any part of yourself or your gear when you go into first person. They had a guardian fighting mordrem in the start of HoT lands and you could see his blue fireballs from his scepter but not the scepter itself.

BellewTheBear.2081:

Soooo….still no update or communication? Does the patch need a day or two of QA? Or a week or two? How is the QA going so far? Is everything panning out or is it a jumbled mess? A little information would be nice to hear.

There was communication.
We were given “a little information”.
What you want is a blow-by-blow of everything going down — which I don’t find to be reasonable at all.

I guess the Chinese get it tomorrow. Maybe we will too. https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2yr2zv/chinese_client_will_update_as_usual_tomorrow/?sort=confidence

^Link doesn’t really show anything.

Dime Baggins.1058:

I guess the Chinese get it tomorrow. Maybe we will too.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fgw2.kongzhong.com%2Fannounce%2F20150310%2F2264.html

Blank on my iPad.

There is a few links here that used to work earlier. https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2yr2zv/chinese_client_will_update_as_usual_tomorrow/?sort=confidence

I personally would rather see a delay, even if it does seem last minute, in order to ensure that a patch, new feature, whatever works well before going live.

Dime Baggins.1058:

I guess the Chinese get it tomorrow. Maybe we will too. https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2yr2zv/chinese_client_will_update_as_usual_tomorrow/?sort=confidence

If that’s true, then I hope that we do get it tomorrow too. Otherwise that just reeks of them favouring one location over the rest of us.

The interesting thing from that reddit, that I really hope we’re getting is:

No more WvW map exploration!

Yeah seriously, exploration should be PvE only~