Guild Wars 2

Yeah… I have 1 alt under level 20, and 4 storage alts that are now level 20 … gg anet… gg

12 mini Jennah’s?? >.<

since the gifts are already given, i think its best to just accept it. maybe we’ll get a better one next year.!
but i do agree that it is kinda lackluster for a 1 year gifts.
it need some more.. i dunno,.. celebration ?!

Please make the scroll +20 levels (and +5 skill points if used on a lvl 80).

Would be the best solution.

Probably they will give a 20lvl scroll at 2 year’s brithday

Touchnshuv.2790:

So as we all know by now, 1 character at 1 year of age gets an account-bound mini Queen Jenna, a lvl 20 scroll, and a birthday booster.

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Nobody likes this, not one person thinks this was a good display of affection toward your fan base.

I don’t agree.

First, I’m NOT a fanboi and would be horrified to be called one.

Second, I have 2 accounts, 44 alts, accounts activated during headstart, game also bought for family and friends. Not going to talk about contiguous monthly gem store purchases.

I supported this game because I enjoyed playing it and I am responsible for making the choice to spend money. I alone decide whether I got my money’s worth. And if I didn’t, that’s on me.

I also feel that Birthday presents in game in an MMO are a nice acknowledgement and also usually meaningless as far as items/use. I don’t care what the birthday gift is. I’m not measuring the developer’s level of affection. Acknowledgement is a more than I could have expected decades ago and it’s a nice touch.

I’m certainly not going to sit here and scold them because I didn’t receive “something of value” (defined however that means.)

That would make me look terribly ungracious and reflect more poorly on me, than the gift-giver (e.g. ANet).

goldenwing.8473:

First, I’m NOT a fanboi and would be horrified to be called one.

Second, I have 2 accounts, 44 alts, accounts activated during headstart, game also bought for family and friends. Not going to talk about contiguous monthly gem store purchases.

What I’m gonna say has nothing to do with this discussion, but how do you not see yourself as a fanboi? I mean 2 accts and 44 alts that’s $340 worth of just plain old character slots. That in my mind is the definition of fanboi. This is coming from someone who has put over 2200 hours into the game.

sirflamesword.3896:

goldenwing.8473:

First, I’m NOT a fanboi and would be horrified to be called one.

Second, I have 2 accounts, 44 alts, accounts activated during headstart, game also bought for family and friends. Not going to talk about contiguous monthly gem store purchases.

What I’m gonna say has nothing to do with this discussion, but how do you not see yourself as a fanboi? I mean 2 accts and 44 alts that’s $340 worth of just plain old character slots. That in my mind is the definition of fanboi. This is coming from someone who has put over 2200 hours into the game.

I think that fanboi goes beyond being willing to spend a few bucks on the game. Keep in mind that $340 for a years entertainment is not really all that much to some people.

I’m glad we got something for our character’s birthday, but as you have mentioned, the gift is not very appealing at all for even slightly dedicated players; I’m stuck with 11 of the same mini that I can’t even forge and 11 experience scrolls when I already have eight level 80’s. But what is even more disappointing is that every character for every player gets the same exact thing.

I’m not sure if this is how many other players feel, but I think what made the GW1 birthday gifts so fun and exciting and had me looking forward to the GW2 ones was the element of surprise and the possibility of getting something cool to show off to friends and other people. They could be special and relatively unique.
EDIT: After reading other threads/posts, it seems there are quite a few who feel exactly the same way.

It seems ironic that this game feels like it has so much RNG in it, but one of the few times that I really wanted variety and random luck, it turns out the exact opposite, and I end up with 11 copies of the exact same thing which everyone else in the game also gets.

I just hope that people’s disappointment reaches ANet and that next year they have something a little more fun for us.

sirflamesword.3896:

What I’m gonna say has nothing to do with this discussion, but how do you not see yourself as a fanboi? I mean 2 accts and 44 alts that’s $340 worth of just plain old character slots. That in my mind is the definition of fanboi. This is coming from someone who has put over 2200 hours into the game.

“Fanboi” is not about how many characters I have or how much money I have spent on the game. I do that for me, I do that for my family and for my guild. That is how I play the game. I usually run most MMO’s with 3-4 accounts, often 2 and 3 boxing.

I believe “fanboi” describes an attitude/belief of “fanatic” support for the game/developer in a way that is not balanced.

Check my posts. I am not a fanboi.

I have an objective view of this game and the developers and have “called” them on things I believe are not being done in a way that makes sense for the entire playerbase.

I have problems with what appears to be a lack of marketing segmentation. (see threads on guild missions)

I have problems with quality, temporary content, etcetera.

13+ years of MMO play, decades as a Fortune 20 developer, and 56 years do not allow me to post absolute support for any game or its developer.

I’ve never been a fanboi of any game I’ve played, according to the definition of “fanatic” supporter.

-Hope that helps

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goldenwing.8473:

-snip-

So – I mean noooooo offense at all when I ask this… but, do you do ANYTHING at all besides play GW2? That’s an obscene amount of altitis. Do you go outside at all? Bathroom? Do you even sleep? The game has been out for a year now and you have leveled FOURTEEN 80’s?

Do you do anything other than level alts? I’m really curious because I’m leveling a 5th 80, and it’s sooo exhausting that I just keep stopping. How on earth do you find the willpower to level sooo many alts?!

and back on topic

I’m sorry that you feel that the gifts are adequate. Considering that the game has been out for a year – you’d think that everyone would have several 20’s by now… I dunno, maybe it’s just me…

Evalana.5480:

goldenwing.8473:

-snip-

So – I mean noooooo offense at all when I ask this… but, do you do ANYTHING at all besides play GW2? That’s an obscene amount of altitis. Do you go outside at all? Bathroom? Do you even sleep? The game has been out for a year now and you have leveled FOURTEEN 80’s?

Do you do anything other than level alts? I’m really curious because I’m leveling a 5th 80, and it’s sooo exhausting that I just keep stopping. How on earth do you find the willpower to level sooo many alts?!
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I think leveling is not an issue in the game. With crafting takes less then 10h. With hearts takes about 65h. With crafting and hearts takes about 40h
So, if a guy has spent money to buy 44 characters he obviously has money to spend on crafting (aka gems for gold). I think he is not leveling all of them tho. He is an alto-holic and he needed all professions
5 races x 8 professions = 40 characters x 2 genre = 80 characters

So, back to point on my original topic. I know I’m nowhere near alone on this feeling. The Anet we know from GW1 wouldn’t do this to us. The Anet from GW2 is lacking PR and seems to just think that releasing a new area (then removing it at any time) and making nerf/buff adjustments every 3 months is adequate.

My original point was that the birthday gifts feel like someone who doesn’t like you showed up to your b-day party and gave you a gift because their mother told them they had to. Granted they didn’t “have” to do anything and I’m well aware, and this game still far outweighs so many and will for years. But in this instance we feel like we our characters are like children of Anet and woke up Christmas morning just to find that our parents didn’t want to take the time to get us anything but a couple pairs of socks.

Wheres my mini Fungal Wallow? :’(

Teremko.6759:

Wheres my mini Fungal Wallow? :’(

I’d be happy with a mini Japigwen.

I guess this scroll makes a low level instantly level 20.

The funny thing about that is, that it’s the higher levels that are the most pointless. It’s a very strange idea to do this. If they’d put in some boosters that give people double xp for everything (not just kills) people would probably have been much happier.

Touchnshuv.2790:

So, back to point on my original topic. I know I’m nowhere near alone on this feeling. The Anet we know from GW1 wouldn’t do this to us. The Anet from GW2 is lacking PR and seems to just think that releasing a new area (then removing it at any time) and making nerf/buff adjustments every 3 months is adequate.

My original point was that the birthday gifts feel like someone who doesn’t like you showed up to your b-day party and gave you a gift because their mother told them they had to. Granted they didn’t “have” to do anything and I’m well aware, and this game still far outweighs so many and will for years. But in this instance we feel like we our characters are like children of Anet and woke up Christmas morning just to find that our parents didn’t want to take the time to get us anything but a couple pairs of socks.

You’re not the only one who wonders who these people are, and what have they done with ArenaNet.

Guild Wars was special. GW2 is just another game. For many, many reasons, most of which have nothing to do with this birthday present thing. I am seriously on the lookout for a new game to play. Once once catches my fancy…I’ll be there. And that never happened to me during my Guild Wars years. I’m sure I’m not the only one, and there’ll be a sharp drop in playerbase once something good releases.

Chuo.4238:

Touchnshuv.2790:

So, back to point on my original topic. I know I’m nowhere near alone on this feeling. The Anet we know from GW1 wouldn’t do this to us. The Anet from GW2 is lacking PR and seems to just think that releasing a new area (then removing it at any time) and making nerf/buff adjustments every 3 months is adequate.

My original point was that the birthday gifts feel like someone who doesn’t like you showed up to your b-day party and gave you a gift because their mother told them they had to. Granted they didn’t “have” to do anything and I’m well aware, and this game still far outweighs so many and will for years. But in this instance we feel like we our characters are like children of Anet and woke up Christmas morning just to find that our parents didn’t want to take the time to get us anything but a couple pairs of socks.

You’re not the only one who wonders who these people are, and what have they done with ArenaNet.

Guild Wars was special. GW2 is just another game. For many, many reasons, most of which have nothing to do with this birthday present thing. I am seriously on the lookout for a new game to play. Once once catches my fancy…I’ll be there. And that never happened to me during my Guild Wars years. I’m sure I’m not the only one, and there’ll be a sharp drop in playerbase once something good releases.

Guild Wars was special to you. Guild Wars 2 is just another game to you.

Guild Wars was special to me, but I like Guild Wars 2 more than I liked Guild Wars 1. They are very different games.

I’m sure that you’ll find another game you like more, but I think a lot of your negativity towards Guild Wars 2 is because Guild Wars 1 was special to you. In order for this game to have been as special it would have had to have been closer to what Guild Wars 1 was.

That it wasn’t feels like a betrayal to a whole lot of people.

Vayne.8563:

Guild Wars was special to you. Guild Wars 2 is just another game to you.

Guild Wars was special to me, but I like Guild Wars 2 more than I liked Guild Wars 1. They are very different games.

I’m sure that you’ll find another game you like more, but I think a lot of your negativity towards Guild Wars 2 is because Guild Wars 1 was special to you. In order for this game to have been as special it would have had to have been closer to what Guild Wars 1 was.

That it wasn’t feels like a betrayal to a whole lot of people.

Well, GW1 was special to me too and so is SWTOR. Even Aion I had more of a connection with in the end than GW2.

I do think you’re right that GW2 feels like just another game tough. That’s particularly rough since it’s called Guild Wars like it’s predecessor. Honestly I think it would’ve been fairer if they’d given it a completely different name since, obviously, people who liked GW1 a lot cannot help but feel this is nothing like it and that’s what the GW name meant to them.

It’s all water under the bridge by now, but yeah, you’re right. GW2 doesn’t feel special and it should’ve from my point of view. But even that aside I just don’t get how they seem to hate on GW1 themselves. Not in words, but they new the mini’s were a big deal and still are to a lot of people. The GW1 system for b-days worked really well. Why on earth would you choose to change something that worked into something that anyone can tell you, isn’t as good an idea as how they did it before.

It just seems that Anet wants to get away from GW1 just for the same of getting away from it. Even the good stuff there they don’t want to keep. At least that’s how it feels to me.

Gehenna.3625:

Vayne.8563:

Guild Wars was special to you. Guild Wars 2 is just another game to you.

Guild Wars was special to me, but I like Guild Wars 2 more than I liked Guild Wars 1. They are very different games.

I’m sure that you’ll find another game you like more, but I think a lot of your negativity towards Guild Wars 2 is because Guild Wars 1 was special to you. In order for this game to have been as special it would have had to have been closer to what Guild Wars 1 was.

That it wasn’t feels like a betrayal to a whole lot of people.

Well, GW1 was special to me too and so is SWTOR. Even Aion I had more of a connection with in the end than GW2.

I do think you’re right that GW2 feels like just another game tough. That’s particularly rough since it’s called Guild Wars like it’s predecessor. Honestly I think it would’ve been fairer if they’d given it a completely different name since, obviously, people who liked GW1 a lot cannot help but feel this is nothing like it and that’s what the GW name meant to them.

It’s all water under the bridge by now, but yeah, you’re right. GW2 doesn’t feel special and it should’ve from my point of view. But even that aside I just don’t get how they seem to hate on GW1 themselves. Not in words, but they new the mini’s were a big deal and still are to a lot of people. The GW1 system for b-days worked really well. Why on earth would you choose to change something that worked into something that anyone can tell you, isn’t as good an idea as how they did it before.

It just seems that Anet wants to get away from GW1 just for the same of getting away from it. Even the good stuff there they don’t want to keep. At least that’s how it feels to me.

Guild Wars 2 is literally the first MMO I could stomach for any length of time. I don’t consider Guild Wars 1 an MMO for various reasons, and neither did Anet.

Of MMOs I’ve played WoW, Rift, Lotro, Aion, AoC, Perfect World, DDO and a few other odds and ends along the way. I couldn’t stay past the 3-4 month point in any of them. AoC would have likely been the closest, but for constant crashes on my machine (when no other game did). Lotro would have been next, but the amount of money that cash shop cost me was obscene.

In the end, this is the first MMO I’ve made it past the four month mark with. Is it special?

Compare to other MMOs out there, it is to me.

All ANET is doing is gauranteeing I’ll be looking elsewhere when the next AAA MMO comes out. The game is stagnant. There is nothing in the gemstore to draw money from me at a cost to value ratio.

I’m wearing the same equipment roughly that I was wearing about 11mos ago with some minor modifications; I have the same skills I had 11 months ago; "my’ living story has not progressed at all. I went from being a “Commander leading the allied armies against the forces of Zhaitan” to some mindless drone amidst a zerg trying to get chests from champions.. Why?

So my character is not “growing” in any sense of the word.

Look at Rifts in game store; you can select from scores of different outfits for in world adventuring; we have what.. 4 perhaps for your armor class and half of them suck.

I’m sorry a worthless little quaggan hat is immersion breaking and juvenile; it’s not going to get me to spend a penny. If you are going to invest in a store as a source of income; then invest in the store.

Chain some interns to a desk and have them crank out armor sets and sell them cheaper. 1. They build a portfolio and 2. you “might” actually get me to buy something.

I couldn’t possibly care less about the bosters/scrolls. But what I think is a real shame is that you get 1 account bound mini… just 1, out of a selection of 1.. account bound. That’s the real travesty here. I fully expected them to do the gw1 thing and give us a random tradeable mini out of a selection of cool minis. I still get excited opening my gw1 toon’s presents to this day and have had some really cool rare minitures (the white rabbit and mini gwen being my favourites) over the years.

Nothing special about a single mini everyone else has.

Vayne.8563:

Guild Wars 2 is literally the first MMO I could stomach for any length of time. I don’t consider Guild Wars 1 an MMO for various reasons, and neither did Anet.

Of MMOs I’ve played WoW, Rift, Lotro, Aion, AoC, Perfect World, DDO and a few other odds and ends along the way. I couldn’t stay past the 3-4 month point in any of them. AoC would have likely been the closest, but for constant crashes on my machine (when no other game did). Lotro would have been next, but the amount of money that cash shop cost me was obscene.

In the end, this is the first MMO I’ve made it past the four month mark with. Is it special?

Compare to other MMOs out there, it is to me.

maybe that just makes you special

What I was saying though is that more than one game can be special to you. I would’ve like for GW2 to become a special game for me as well.

I played Aion for a year and a half and SWTOR since the beginning and still play it, with a short break last year to start GW2.

So I played 2 MMOs for a longer period and GW2 is sadly that game that I wanted to be special for me but it just refuses to be. That’s how it feels to me.

The current level 20 scroll that people are getting, to me, proves that they recognise their leveling process has a problem. Why else would they give everybody insta level 20, if people enjoyed leveling?

But I can fully understand that if this is the first MMO you played for more than 4 months that that means something to you. That’s fair enough.

Chuo.4238:

Touchnshuv.2790:

So, back to point on my original topic. I know I’m nowhere near alone on this feeling. The Anet we know from GW1 wouldn’t do this to us. The Anet from GW2 is lacking PR and seems to just think that releasing a new area (then removing it at any time) and making nerf/buff adjustments every 3 months is adequate.

My original point was that the birthday gifts feel like someone who doesn’t like you showed up to your b-day party and gave you a gift because their mother told them they had to. Granted they didn’t “have” to do anything and I’m well aware, and this game still far outweighs so many and will for years. But in this instance we feel like we our characters are like children of Anet and woke up Christmas morning just to find that our parents didn’t want to take the time to get us anything but a couple pairs of socks.

You’re not the only one who wonders who these people are, and what have they done with ArenaNet.

Guild Wars was special. GW2 is just another game. For many, many reasons, most of which have nothing to do with this birthday present thing. I am seriously on the lookout for a new game to play. Once once catches my fancy…I’ll be there. And that never happened to me during my Guild Wars years. I’m sure I’m not the only one, and there’ll be a sharp drop in playerbase once something good releases.

I really think that’s something quite subjective. I liked Guild Wars in the same way I liked Pokemon Red. Great game and special and all but I wouldn’t go back now and play it again.

Having said that, GW2 could use that game’s build diversity though.

The point of a present is a token gift, not usability. The birthday boosters are useful regardless and naturally you had to pick the other gift that had no value to you.

I wouldn’t want to buy presents for some of you, with that kind of attitude, lol.

It’s effin free, why you kittenin?

Since I only have 3 characters past level 20, rest are sitting just after creation, I think I’ll be happy to have a level 20 scroll.

Julie Yann.5379:

It’s effin free, why you kittenin?

If I take a dump and wrap it up, will you think that it’s free and you have no reason to complain?

Chuo.4238:

Touchnshuv.2790:

So, back to point on my original topic. I know I’m nowhere near alone on this feeling. The Anet we know from GW1 wouldn’t do this to us. The Anet from GW2 is lacking PR and seems to just think that releasing a new area (then removing it at any time) and making nerf/buff adjustments every 3 months is adequate.

My original point was that the birthday gifts feel like someone who doesn’t like you showed up to your b-day party and gave you a gift because their mother told them they had to. Granted they didn’t “have” to do anything and I’m well aware, and this game still far outweighs so many and will for years. But in this instance we feel like we our characters are like children of Anet and woke up Christmas morning just to find that our parents didn’t want to take the time to get us anything but a couple pairs of socks.

You’re not the only one who wonders who these people are, and what have they done with ArenaNet.

Guild Wars was special. GW2 is just another game. For many, many reasons, most of which have nothing to do with this birthday present thing. I am seriously on the lookout for a new game to play. Once once catches my fancy…I’ll be there. And that never happened to me during my Guild Wars years. I’m sure I’m not the only one, and there’ll be a sharp drop in playerbase once something good releases.

I don’t know why, but ArenaNet completely forgot that GW1 players still exist.

It feels like “guys, being loyal to our veteran playerbase is too hard. What if.. we wouldn’t even try to make them happy, trash them, we will make them buy this game and then let them go, we will supply the missing income from quaggan hats”

Gehenna.3625:

Vayne.8563:

Guild Wars 2 is literally the first MMO I could stomach for any length of time. I don’t consider Guild Wars 1 an MMO for various reasons, and neither did Anet.

Of MMOs I’ve played WoW, Rift, Lotro, Aion, AoC, Perfect World, DDO and a few other odds and ends along the way. I couldn’t stay past the 3-4 month point in any of them. AoC would have likely been the closest, but for constant crashes on my machine (when no other game did). Lotro would have been next, but the amount of money that cash shop cost me was obscene.

In the end, this is the first MMO I’ve made it past the four month mark with. Is it special?

Compare to other MMOs out there, it is to me.

maybe that just makes you special

What I was saying though is that more than one game can be special to you. I would’ve like for GW2 to become a special game for me as well.

I played Aion for a year and a half and SWTOR since the beginning and still play it, with a short break last year to start GW2.

So I played 2 MMOs for a longer period and GW2 is sadly that game that I wanted to be special for me but it just refuses to be. That’s how it feels to me.

The current level 20 scroll that people are getting, to me, proves that they recognise their leveling process has a problem. Why else would they give everybody insta level 20, if people enjoyed leveling?

But I can fully understand that if this is the first MMO you played for more than 4 months that that means something to you. That’s fair enough.

Ummm I don’t think the scroll means the leveling process is a problem. I think the scroll means that people who don’t want to go through the “tutorial” nature of having the early stuff locked, because they already know about slot skills, and their class mechanic, and traits, don’t have to go through that tutorial part of it again. It takes you past the basic, basic stuff…and that’s all it does.

That’s why you give it to people with 5000 achievement points or for their birthday. To let them skip the tutorial zone.

If leveling itself was a problem it would be 20 levels at any time.

i like to imagine the 3 founders of arenanet making gw1 with colin being the third wheel coming up with weird ideas and the other two largely ignoring him, then when they left and he had a chance to shape gw2 he left behind all good gw1 ideas just to stick it to the other 2

I’d rather assume that there is simply a lack of common sense input to the decision making over there. People may be very smart and yet lack common sense and vice versa. We have seen a lack of common sense consideration in an overwhelming amount of decisions in this game and I for one find it perplexing to say the least.

Essence Snow.3194:

I’d rather assume that there is simply a lack of common sense input to the decision making over there. People may be very smart and yet lack common sense and vice versa. We have seen a lack of common sense consideration in an overwhelming amount of decisions in this game and I for one find it perplexing to say the least.

This is pretty much the truth. Anet does seem to lack some common sense. I’ve spent a lot of time working with writers and artists and, while some are certainly rooted in the real world, many have their heads in the clouds. I’m wondering if that has something to do with it, because it is a company of “creative” people.

There are times in my life when dealing with artists and writers that I have to take a step back and take a deep breath, and remind myself I’m living in a completely different world than they are.

I’m guessing theirs might be better. lol

milo.6942:

i like to imagine the 3 founders of arenanet making gw1 with colin being the third wheel coming up with weird ideas and the other two largely ignoring him, then when they left and he had a chance to shape gw2 he left behind all good gw1 ideas just to stick it to the other 2

Heh this kinda makes sense.

Vayne.8563:

This is pretty much the truth. Anet does seem to lack some common sense. I’ve spent a lot of time working with writers and artists and, while some are certainly rooted in the real world, many have their heads in the clouds. I’m wondering if that has something to do with it, because it is a company of “creative” people.

There are times in my life when dealing with artists and writers that I have to take a step back and take a deep breath, and remind myself I’m living in a completely different world than they are.

I’m guessing theirs might be better. lol

outstanding, you’re outdoing yourself. congrats

Asking for free cool features in a game with micro transactions is like asking for free coffee at Starbucks.

It makes sense that this birthday thing is quite a disappointment. Guess we have to forget about expecting something for your characters birthday like in GW1 (yeah those random minis were worth much more than minis in GW2).

I got to admit, I was sticking up for the idea of a scroll in the hopes it would be a simple “gain X levels/XP” as opposed to the fast-to-20 scroll, and I was certainly disappointed when it was the same scroll as the other. That being said, I appreciate that I got anything from them for my character’s birthday, and hope that this year (#2) the entire community will be more positive and outstanding and then maybe, just maybe, ANet will decide to actually love people instead of gifting us a rock.

I mean, really, it just makes me laugh, because in my head all I can picture was someone trying to get a gift for a friend who does nothing but act like a jerk all the time, and know that I would have done the exact same thing. Next year though, no more scrolls. I mean, they can’t possibly think that after having a character for two years that people would need another level 20 scroll right? Then again, if it wasn’t account bound I could give it to people who don’t have all the alts I do…

KorbanDallas.7389:

I got to admit, I was sticking up for the idea of a scroll in the hopes it would be a simple “gain X levels/XP” as opposed to the fast-to-20 scroll, and I was certainly disappointed when it was the same scroll as the other. That being said, I appreciate that I got anything from them for my character’s birthday, and hope that this year (#2) the entire community will be more positive and outstanding and then maybe, just maybe, ANet will decide to actually love people instead of gifting us a rock.

I mean, really, it just makes me laugh, because in my head all I can picture was someone trying to get a gift for a friend who does nothing but act like a jerk all the time, and know that I would have done the exact same thing. Next year though, no more scrolls. I mean, they can’t possibly think that after having a character for two years that people would need another level 20 scroll right? Then again, if it wasn’t account bound I could give it to people who don’t have all the alts I do…

You know… sometimes its even better not to give a present if you don’t know what to give:

I can’t believe the general in this thread. You get a small gift and then complain/insult at the gift-giver that it isn’t what you wanted? I know MMO players have a reputation of expecting everything tailored to them just so but geez. This is taking it a bit far.

Vayne.8563:

Ummm I don’t think the scroll means the leveling process is a problem. I think the scroll means that people who don’t want to go through the “tutorial” nature of having the early stuff locked, because they already know about slot skills, and their class mechanic, and traits, don’t have to go through that tutorial part of it again. It takes you past the basic, basic stuff…and that’s all it does.

That’s why you give it to people with 5000 achievement points or for their birthday. To let them skip the tutorial zone.

If leveling itself was a problem it would be 20 levels at any time.

Wait whut, are you being serious here? The whole point in leveling is improving your character by learning new skills, improving stats and unlocking abilities and what have ye….what you call a tutorial that’s leveling akittens best.

And 20 levels of tutorial? Seriously you realise that by, what is it, level 30 you unlock your elite slot and that’s it. Only trait points after for 50 levels.

I will throw it on a different point of view but from where I am sitting what you suggest here sounds completely insane.

Maybe there are some but I’ve never seen anything in a MMO I’ve played (not talking money grabbing f2p cakittenems) of any stature that brought in items that allows you to skip the first 20 levels. That is not a normal reward, letting people skip what should be the most exciting part of the leveling process.

If what you say were true, then you might as well skip to 80 right away because it’s just going to be more of the same for many levels. No, nice try, but your view on this just doesn’t sound reasonable to me. Oh well, different views yet again…

Gehenna.3625:

Well, GW1 was special to me too and so is SWTOR. Even Aion I had more of a connection with in the end than GW2.

I do think you’re right that GW2 feels like just another game tough. That’s particularly rough since it’s called Guild Wars like it’s predecessor. Honestly I think it would’ve been fairer if they’d given it a completely different name since, obviously, people who liked GW1 a lot cannot help but feel this is nothing like it and that’s what the GW name meant to them.

It’s all water under the bridge by now, but yeah, you’re right. GW2 doesn’t feel special and it should’ve from my point of view. But even that aside I just don’t get how they seem to hate on GW1 themselves. Not in words, but they new the mini’s were a big deal and still are to a lot of people. The GW1 system for b-days worked really well. Why on earth would you choose to change something that worked into something that anyone can tell you, isn’t as good an idea as how they did it before.

It just seems that Anet wants to get away from GW1 just for the same of getting away from it. Even the good stuff there they don’t want to keep. At least that’s how it feels to me.

But you see – that’s from your point of view. I’ve played plenty of games from the same franchise that I hated, but others I loved. That’s just how it goes.

sirflamesword.3896:

goldenwing.8473:

First, I’m NOT a fanboi and would be horrified to be called one.

Second, I have 2 accounts, 44 alts, accounts activated during headstart, game also bought for family and friends. Not going to talk about contiguous monthly gem store purchases.

What I’m gonna say has nothing to do with this discussion, but how do you not see yourself as a fanboi? I mean 2 accts and 44 alts that’s $340 worth of just plain old character slots. That in my mind is the definition of fanboi. This is coming from someone who has put over 2200 hours into the game.

Considering someone a fanboi simply because they support this game is offensive. My definition of an obnoxious jerk is someone that considers others a fanboi simply for playing and supporting this game.

Mesket.5728:

You know… sometimes its even better not to give a present if you don’t know what to give:

. . . I give gift certificates/cards for places I know the other person visits. Or I make them dinner. At the VERY least I will ensure they have nothing to be concerned about that day which I can possibly step in and keep from disrupting them having fun however they choose.

I also do not criticize presents people give me with the sole exception if it was clearly intended to be insulting or not really for me. If I’m living with my parents and they get me a television as a present, then hook up a VCR to it and use it to record shows they want to watch rather than let me use it? It’s not a gift for me.

In this case, it’s a gift, but not what you wanted. It’s fair not to be overwhelmed but it’s not fair to throw it back in their face. It’s not nearly as insulting as that first-season Simpsons example you linked :P

Mesket.5728:

Asking for free cool features in a game with micro transactions is like asking for free coffee at Starbucks.

It makes sense that this birthday thing is quite a disappointment. Guess we have to forget about expecting something for your characters birthday like in GW1 (yeah those random minis were worth much more than minis in GW2).

Guild Wars 1 was based on microtransactions. We got cool features. This is the same company. Get it yet?

Rypo Falem.8913:

MMO players have a reputation of expecting everything tailored to them

Anet “had” a reputation of treating their players with respect. This isn’t an MMO player issue, this is a game company breaking from its roots of customer appreciation and ignoring what we helped them build. People bought GW2 for two reasons, 1) the game outshined the competition and 2) Anet had a great history of exciting you as a player when things like birthdays came around. So point 1, the game is about par now, point 2, we have nothing to be excited about.

Touchnshuv.2790:

…point 2, we have nothing to be excited about.

Speak for yourself. I am completely excited about Goedulf. Now I can get a juvenile wolf and a wolf pup following me around! With four more rangers we could have our own wolf pack.

And yes, I’ve been trying to set it up

I honestly believe this Birthday summed up the first year of Guildwars 2 well, it was basically the icing on the terrible cake for me.

I guess when another mmo pops i’ll be the first to jump ship after this years content and nerfs..

Wayfarer’s Reverie event – GW2 anniversary celebration (in GW1)

For completing the main quest for the event, you get your choice of:
1 – torment weapon (if you didn’t get one last year)
2 – Rytlock mini
3 – everlasting Rytlock tonic
4 – everlasting Rytlock summoning stone (one skill point per use)
5 – bag of a bunch of consumables

How does that compare to your GW2 birthday present? lol

Tasty Pudding.3764:

Wayfarer’s Reverie event – GW2 anniversary celebration (in GW1)

For completing the main quest for the event, you get your choice of:
1 – torment weapon (if you didn’t get one last year)
2 – Rytlock mini
3 – everlasting Rytlock tonic
4 – everlasting Rytlock summoning stone (one skill point per use)
5 – bag of a bunch of consumables

How does that compare to your GW2 birthday present? lol

How did my first year present in GW1 compare to this one? I got minis I Dedicated once I got Hall of Monuments, then chucked in the trash.

Wow… wow.
Never look a gift horse in the mouth, people. It’s rude.